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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“argued that children needed to be physically abused and converted in their schools in order to make up for the lack of Jesus.”

First he has to prove that there’s something bad about lacking Jesus. I wouldn’t say anyone lacked Jesus, they just decided his influence wasn’t worth it. Besides, it’s not like there’s anyone in the country that hasn’t heard the Jesus message.

But now I will read the rest of the article.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

First, he has to prove his Jesus ever existed.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, but OF COURSE Jesus existed! Just read the bible! [/S]

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

No thanks, I have hundreds better fantasy bibles to read at my disposal.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

You and me both, my friend! 😁

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RegularJoe's avatar

🎶 What a friend¹ we have in Jesus 🎶

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesus-contreras-20376a40

(¹ and radiologist.)

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oraxx's avatar

Like a lot of Christian nut jobs, he completely ignores the horrid history of what Christians acting in the name of Christianity have done to their fellow humans.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I'm willing to bet Brewer was abused by his "loving" xtian parents. Look how he turned out.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

After five seasons in the NFL, CTE may also have a role in how he turned out.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

CTE is some pernicious shit. I would wonder how far to trust anyone who might be so affected.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

I'm not sure what else could explain this kind of batshit lunacy.

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LadyOfBooks's avatar

ha, ha. I had to look up CTE. In my world CTE stands for Career and Technical Education -middle and high school career education.

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Accidental Bertha's avatar

I'm certain that he was ! Lots of people like him have " Stockholm Syndrome" when it comes to defending abuse. He's been poisoned by the Kool Aid. Most of the kids he's describing are the kinds of kids I went to school with, and they were being beaten and abused at home, their parents were violent. So of course they were angry and acting out. Anyone could see this is a cause and effect situation. Stop the child abuse in his culture first, and the violence will end. I grew up around this stuff and saw it firsthand. Bad kids are made,not born.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

My mom was physically and sexually abused by her father. She broke the cycle of abuse.

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Accidental Bertha's avatar

I'm real sorry that was done to your mother! I'm glad for her that she was able to break the cycle, because most survivors of child abuse don't without intervention. 👍🎉

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NOGODZ20's avatar

She was firecely protective of her kids. A mama bear before the term was coined. And she did it without being overly aggressive, controlling or easily provoked.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

See my post about 𝑆𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐾𝑖𝑑𝑠: 𝑊ℎ𝑦 𝑊ℎ𝑢𝑝𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐶ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑊𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑆𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎.

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Accidental Bertha's avatar

Exactly 💯!! And there's also " Don't Beat Black Kids" by Asada Kirkland. Lot of people talking about this subject on toxic Black parents reddit.

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oraxx's avatar

If you can advocate child abuse in the name of Jesus, you can justify anything. NO ONE has the right to strike another person's child. His Jesus has never intervened to prevent child abuse, including rape. Jesus sat out the Holocaust. I guess he was too preoccupied with the impure thoughts of young boys. Religion excuses a lot of mental illness, and Jack Brewer is a classic example of it.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Religion doesn't even believe in mental illness. What we call mental illness, they call "the result of SIIIIIIINNNN in the world." The prescribed cure? "Getting right with the Lord."

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oraxx's avatar

Indeed. There are Christian psychologists out there who see the spiritual approach as the solution to mental health issues. In my view, taking that approach usually results in making things worse for the sufferer. In which case the therapist will blame his or her failure on a lack of faith on the part of the patient.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

For what I've seen, spiritual "solutions" to psychological problems almost exclusively result in more harm than good done, virtually without exception.

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oraxx's avatar

There are no super natural solutions to any problem.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Mostly because there is NO SUPERNATURAL! (duh!!!)

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oraxx's avatar

Ya' think? lol

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Ronald Furr's avatar

Recovering from Religion has a list of not theist therapists. If anyone is in need of therapy, that might be a good place to start.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

Just goes to show the problems with psychology as a field. It's humanities pretending to be science to serve political and economic interests for money. That's it.

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Ronald Furr's avatar

There is a lot of good research and also science that goes into psychology. Unfortunately religious lunes have influenced it. For instance the basic idea that delusional behavior is not delusional when it has to do with religion.

Religion is Ridiculous. Religions ruins everything.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ancien Egypt saw most crazy people as touched by a God(dess) and were revered.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

Sadly, we see that playing out in our government.

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Linda Bower's avatar

The horrors and oppression are all justifiable to them as it relates to power and control.

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oraxx's avatar
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They can talk about their loving Jesus and the glorious afterlife from now on, but it's power and control on this earthly plain they value more than anything.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Let's keep in mind, too, that this is the same Jesus who said, "Love your enemies" in one breath, and in the next, said, "But mine enemies, who would not have me rule over them, bring them hither and slay them before me."

Jesus contradicted himself enough times to completely sabotage any credibility he might ever have had.

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oraxx's avatar

That's just it. Although there are many things attributed to Jesus, no one has any idea what he said. The fact he never wrote anything down should worry Christians more than it does. God left everything to chance, and the clergy has been trying to paint over the mistakes ever since by praising the value of faith. Faith is not a reliable path to truth, to put it mildly.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Add that to the lack of any contemporaneous records of Jesus' life or sayings and ... just HOW does ANYONE believe this noise?

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Bob Oz's avatar

The simple idea of faith is "believing something you know isn't true".

I also like the one proposed by a philosophy teacher at Portland State: "faith is pretending to know something you really don't know".

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oraxx's avatar

More often than not religious people treat their beliefs as facts, when in reality facts do not require belief.

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Ronald Furr's avatar

What you just wrote should be recited to every Christian that spews the Jesus is love nonsense.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

Nuns were given carte blanche.

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Accidental Bertha's avatar

Yup, just look at all those residential schools in America and Canada, and what those religious narcissists did to the kids forced to go there against their will!! All the bodies found by ground radar where the unmarked graves are. And in Ireland with those mother and baby homes for unwed mothers, and the bodies found in septic tanks.

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larry parker's avatar

"None of these kids go to church on Sunday morning. These kids don’t have a fear of God. These kids don’t think about Heaven and Hell."

The kids are all right.

It's hard to fear something that doesn't exist. Clowns on the other hand... like this one in Washington.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

My daughter didn't go to Sunday school, nor was she indoctrinated with heaven and hell, and she came out smarter and better than I ever could have dreamed.

Suck on THAT, Brewer. 😝

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Linda Bower's avatar

I never went to church unless I slept over Debbie’s house on Sunday when her mother would force me to wear one of her dresses (way too big) and go. She belonged to a small cult. I think I turned out ok, even kind? It’s interesting how even “moderate” Catholics I know are convinced society will collapse without religion. To me, that’s terrifying! What is going on inside there 🧠??

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Ronald Furr's avatar

I went to a church service once. I snorted out loud suppressing a laugh when the preacher said something about women being placed on earth to serve their husbands. Why anyone buys into any of that crap is beyond me.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

You know, I never went to church on Sunday. It must be why I help people, I donate to secular charities, I adopted two abused dogs. drawer is right, I am on the path to become a criminal.

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larry parker's avatar

I did occasionally go to church. I stole a car once, sort of. It was more of a prank. Drove it around the block, then returned it.

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Hannah olufs's avatar

That doesn't count.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

If so, you're my kind of criminal! 👍

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

That's smooth 😁

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

It's also the truth. You're good people, and I'm glad you're here.

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Andra Watkins's avatar

The state of Florida has allocated millions of taxpayer dollars to Brewer's charities, which promote Christian Nationalist religious indoctrination of multiple fronts. Much like James Dobson, these people get richer and richer promoting this stuff. https://andrawatkins.substack.com/p/project-2025-religious-indoctrination?utm_source=publication-search

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Joe King's avatar

A monster to take the place of the monster that was Dobson.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

And he isn't the only monster out there.

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Ah, that explains the shout out. Payola.

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Hannah olufs's avatar

Always payola.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Ah yes, Florida the bastion of decency, obedience, and respectful people. Ever hear of Florida Man, Brewer? I mean, Jesus Christ, that state is infamous for the insanely crazy, violent crimes spurred on by alcohol, drugs, and guns. And usually has some religious (Christian) undercurrent. You cannot use Florida as the example you want the rest of the country to emulate as the premier law abiding place. It is completely unqualified for the task.

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Linda Bower's avatar

And the demonization of blues states and cities (hellscapes) continues.

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Runfastandwin's avatar

You can if you lie.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

I'm so glad I got my daughter out of Florida last year.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Dobson isn’t even in the ground and here we go with guns, paddles, and the fear of God. Wow, the USA is pissing in his pants regarding the threat of empowered people with critical thinking skills intact.

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Joe King's avatar

Yesterday, I called Dobson a monster and said that there were still monsters to step onto his place. Looks like we found one.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

As long as Evangelical Christianity is a thing, monsters will come out of it. It has for as long as I've been aware of that particular brand of Christ worship, and I don't see that ever changing.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

They are taught from the get go never to question what their authority figures tell them. People who don't escape have these dimwitted, reactionary politics and use abuse to settle problems. CTE can also cause this - when people lose thinking pathways due to multiple brain hits. I suspect this dolt is pretty far down the Hershel Walker path.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Like religion, child corporal punishment is all but self-perpetuating, being passed down from parent to child, over and over again.

And it is just as pernicious.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Depressing. Probably not in our lifetime at least. As of right now, the indoctrination is in full force for the next generations…

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Linda Bower's avatar

So fast! It’s amazing to me that this still works. History repeats itself.

I’ve been thinking a lot about this so-called hierarchical family structure where women, children, and pets are all below the man of the house. I think it speaks volumes to why they are ok with pedophilia and child abuse.

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Joe King's avatar

In the red states that are more religious, they are more likely to allow child marriage. When the "woman" of the house is a child herself, the abuse ramps up.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

It's telling that underage brides are still considered children with next to no right, and republicons fight any attempt to forbid child marriages.

PS : Californie, c'est quand tu veux pour limiter le marriage aux personnes de 18 ans et plus ! Pour un état liberal, c'est pas jojo.

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ericc's avatar

In my best friend's house, the ranking according to the dog was: 1. Dad, 2. Dog, 3. Kid, 4. Mom.

But I guess that's still better than what cat owners get. For them, the ranking according to the family pet is: 1. Cat. 2. F*ckyall.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Our cat runs the place and I’m ok with it. If it were a human trying to claim the throne, forget it!

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Alverant's avatar

My cat pushed the BACK button on my keyboard when I was replying to someone else, now I have to start over.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Mr. Capitalism is upset that during Covid we understood that indeed we can work from home. We also understand that there IS money to help feed and house the poor, they just don’t want to.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

If you have to force your message on people, maybe your messages isn’t that good. If the messages allegedly written on everyone’s heart, and no one is paying attention to it, maybe there’s nothing written on anyone’s heart and no one to do the writing.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

If you have to force ANYTHING on ANYONE, YOU are the one with the problem!

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vibing.'s avatar

I'll reiterate my comment from the Dobson post that people who advocate for spanking children should be viewed as sexual predators.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

And sociopathic if not psychopathic.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

“particularly the young Black boys that look just like me and my son. Where 71% of these kids are born without a father in a home. Every Black man in America should feel despicable about the reality that our culture right now is terrorizing the streets of America. “

Like the black children of America aren’t robbed of their fathers by the very system he’s defending. The black community is over policed, their culture, their activities, their existence is often criminalized intentionally because of racism. The school to prison pipeline is almost entirely made up of black children. There’s no disciplining their skin color out of them. There’s no way you can beat them into being acceptable to the racist system designed to imprison them. The constitution protects slavery for inmates, and when you look at the policies of the last hundred or so years since the civil war, you see that the powers that be have devised a way to continue to enslave black people legally. And this idiot is the guy running around catching escaped slaves for the masters.

You want black kids to have fathers at home? Year down the system that enslaves them. You don’t beat the children into submission.

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Joe King's avatar

Brewer is black. He will say that because of the fact that he got out of that poverty cycle that it can't possibly be racism. Well, Mr Brewer, just because you overcame the systemic racism doesn't mean it isn't there. I would bet that he had to work much harder than the white men around him to get where he is. The white men around him just didn't tell him how much harder they were making it for him, and he didn't pay attention.

He wants to beat children into submission because he wants unquestioned obedience. He doesn't care about the real problems.

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Hannah olufs's avatar

He may not see himself as white. Not like those other people who sorta look like him.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

He overcame it because of his ability to tackle receivers.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

How many children grew up without a father following WW1 & 2 ?

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

Oh fuck him! There's an entire Black fathers' movement trying to counteract this lie. They recently had a stroller march, pushing their kids. Can't remember the details. What self-hater Brewer is.

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Holytape's avatar

No raising your hand. That's a paddlin'. Talking back... That's a paddlin'. Looking out the window. That's a paddlin'. Touching the paddle. Oh you better believe that's a paddlin'.,

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Perhaps Brewer should take a look a the stats from the Bureau of Prisons. The US prison population is dominated overwhelmingly by Christians. Atheists barely register as a blip on that population.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Brewer prefers his anecdotal fairy stories to actual facts.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

C'mon Jack, admit it. Paddling kids gives you a little thrill, doesn't it? Gives you a little tingle down your nethers, I'll wager. Bet you fantasize having them lined up with their dresses up and their pants down.

So how long before you're caught with YOUR pants down around kids? I can see the headlines now.

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RegularJoe's avatar

"...these things don’t happen in states like Florida. You know why? Cause if you carjack me, I’m liable to shoot you..."

Assaulting a child also calls for a SYG response. Strike a kid, get capped.

But then, that was some poor dumb jock suffering from CTE, he's got a very broken brain.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I think he's just BROKEN, full stop.

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larry parker's avatar

Just read about a carjacking spree in The Villages.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

The weird thing is, my daughter's 3rd grade teacher got fired for spraying kids with a spray bottle. Kids thought it was funny. Some parent flipped out about "my kid's not a CAT!" But paddling's okay? Paddling and Jesus? "Don't treat my kid like a cat! Beat the crap out of him like Dodson did his dachshund!"

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Did somebody mention floriduh?

𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚 𝐦𝐚𝐧 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐭𝐲 𝐭𝐨 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐥𝐨𝐮𝐝 𝐦𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐜

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-man-pleads-not-guilty-shooting-teen-death-over-loud-flna1C7302183

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𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝐷.𝐶. ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑇𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑝 𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑢𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐸𝑝𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑙 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑓𝑢𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑚𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛

Trump went on the local news last night and announced that he's been told DC crime is now waaaay down. Which he then attributes to the couple hundred guardsmen who he called up but have yet to be actually deployed. In an educated country, such antics would be really funny. That's stick-UV-light-up-your-butt ignorance, only in law enforcement rather than medicine. The only think making it not so funny is that some people will actually believe that a 5-year-long trend that started in 2021 was caused by an announcement Trump made the day before yesterday.

Having said that, as a local I don't think this has much to do with Epstein. I think it has more to do with Trump trying to force the DC government into adopting conservative policies that they would otherwise reject. It's similar to what he's doing to Universities; he's threatening home rule government in order to get them to play ball on other things. It's already worked to some extent - the mayor has already capitulated on a number of minor issues - so I have no doubt he will continue to bully her with the threat of "if you don't do these things I want, I will keep federalizing parts of DC's government and doing worse."

𝑊𝑒’𝑣𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙𝑠… 𝑔𝑜 𝑠𝑜 𝑑𝑒𝑒𝑝 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠, 𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑘𝑖𝑑𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑠𝑝𝑖𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦.

Hmm, sounds like a parenting problem to me. Schools have your kid for ~6 hrs, 5/days a week. What are you doing with them the other 138/168?

𝐴𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑟𝑜𝑜𝑚 𝑖𝑠 𝑠𝑜 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝ℎ𝑦𝑠𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑐𝑖𝑝𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑛𝑒𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑎 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑗𝑜𝑏.

I'll quibble. There are definitely kids out there who can't behave in a regular classroom, no matter how good the teacher is - I have a close family member who teaches juvenile offenders, and many of them are simply not ready to attend a regular school.

Having said that, their behavioral problems should be chalked up to too much abuse at home, not 'not enough abuse at school.' You want them to behave in a classroom? They need a nonthreatening environment with some latitude towards their needs (yes you can nap, yes you can eat, nobody's going to scream at you if you take a break, etc.)

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

The sad fact is that Trump will claim any damn thing on any damn subject, and his followers will nod their heads dully and say, "Oh yes, sure, of course."

And until Trump is forcibly called on his bullshit, this pattern will continue.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

NatCs certainly are demonic.

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