Beckwith. AGAIN. It's a point that will be made more than once here, I suspect, but if some Muslim said that Christian churches had no right to ring church bells or otherwise advertise their faith, Beckwith would have a shit-fit. THIS is one reason among many that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment is there.
And it is clear that Micah simply does not get it.
“attacking Islam is “a political winner” for Republicans.”
There it is. All the other ignorant BS is secondary to this. In his state, he believes political authority can rely on sectarian bigotry and that alone.
And the Founders had immediate experience with the persecution the Church of England visited upon other mutually incompatible Christian sects. Can you just imagine what Beckwith would visit upon The RCC, The Episcopalians, Methodists, etc? David Barton has gotten his nonsense deep into this bigot’s psyche.
Another Christo-fascist fool who demands religious privilege for himself, while calling for faiths he disagrees with to be silenced. I doubt he is capable of getting his head around the fact his religion isn’t based on any more than the other guy’s. He stands as a classic example why no sane country hands power to the preachers.
Beckwith thinks the Coach Kennedy case can be used to prohibit public Islamic calls to prayer? If anything, it sets the precedent that those calls to prayer cannot be prohibited.
Your own Jesus told his followers not to be hypocrites by praying/acting in public to be seen by others. He said do it in secret. You gonna try to enforce THAT? Good luck.
Just because he has some friends, good Christian parents who raised a good Christian son, except for the pretty pervy part, you’re going all Millstone on his ass.
Christian heritage? The Declation of Independence, though not a document of governance, was authored by a Deist. The US Constitution, which is very much the law of the land, was authored by a Deist.
Also the law of the land, the Treaty With Tripoli was authored by Joel Barlow, yet another Deist. And as I always point out, that treaty (Article XI and all) was ratified unanimously without dissent before being proudly signed into law by President John Adams. He was...you guessed it...a Deist.
Indiana is ranked dead last (50th) in Natural Environment, which includes pollution that is mainly due to heavy industrial toxins, coal-fired power plants and agricultural runoff. Air quality, waterways and industrial toxins all paint a ghastly picture.
Maybe Jerkwith should concentrate on REAL perils to his state.
What happens when Christians run out of other religions to suppress? If history is any indication, Christians will turn on other Christians. Yet another holy war.
(And who ever came up with the oxymoron "holy war" anyway? Nothing holy about war)
“So Beckwith doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s a pattern for him. Because he’s conservative Christian, he knows he can lie constantly and his Republican base will never call him out on it.”
Oh, he knows good and well what he’s talking about. That’s why he’s lying. He’s intentionally telling falsehoods to gin up hate and fear in the base so they keep voting against their best interests and keep him in power and money. I am no longer giving the GOP any benefit of the doubt in regards to motives surrounding lies. No longer considering the “don’t attribute malice when ignorance will do” razor in dealings with the repubelicans. Their actions always end up being intentional and malicious. This is no different. Anyone who has gained an elected position should know that the call to prayer is not death and destruction, and if they do not they aren’t qualified for the position.
"Our public spaces." Beckwith wants mandatory Christianity everywhere, and all other religious viewpoints hidden. He won't punish you for having them, but he will punish you if you don't bow to his god in public.
because “Judeo-Christian principles [are] our heritage
“Heritage” and “states rights” have for too long have been racist dog whistles for Christo-fascists.
I’ve both lived in a majority Muslim city neighborhood at one time and have visited (key visited) a Muslim majority country where the call to prayer happens 5 times day (as it does) and I can’t say that I was as bothered by it as this fellow seems to be. In fact, it didn’t really bother me at all.
Oh those pesky Native Americans. It’s the same story around the world thanks to the expansion of colonialism and Abrahamic religions. Speaking of here’s a recent vid of the TR library (which I worked on):
Beckwith. AGAIN. It's a point that will be made more than once here, I suspect, but if some Muslim said that Christian churches had no right to ring church bells or otherwise advertise their faith, Beckwith would have a shit-fit. THIS is one reason among many that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment is there.
And it is clear that Micah simply does not get it.
“attacking Islam is “a political winner” for Republicans.”
There it is. All the other ignorant BS is secondary to this. In his state, he believes political authority can rely on sectarian bigotry and that alone.
Beckwith likely thinks that "religion" = "Christianity" and anything else can be prohibited.
And the Founders had immediate experience with the persecution the Church of England visited upon other mutually incompatible Christian sects. Can you just imagine what Beckwith would visit upon The RCC, The Episcopalians, Methodists, etc? David Barton has gotten his nonsense deep into this bigot’s psyche.
Plus they had witnessed several hundred years of sectarian violence in Europe after the Protestant Reformation.
Hitch was right - religion poisons everything.
Another Christo-fascist fool who demands religious privilege for himself, while calling for faiths he disagrees with to be silenced. I doubt he is capable of getting his head around the fact his religion isn’t based on any more than the other guy’s. He stands as a classic example why no sane country hands power to the preachers.
He should try that Judeo-Christian lie on a rabbi or two. They'll laugh in his face.
Beckwith thinks the Coach Kennedy case can be used to prohibit public Islamic calls to prayer? If anything, it sets the precedent that those calls to prayer cannot be prohibited.
Hey, Beckwith...
Your own Jesus told his followers not to be hypocrites by praying/acting in public to be seen by others. He said do it in secret. You gonna try to enforce THAT? Good luck.
But that's different! They're not praying to be SEEN by others, they're praying to be seen by OTHERS! See the difference?
We gonna stop the bells that lure children to Pastor Pervie's palaces of pedophilia as well? 🤔
Just because he has some friends, good Christian parents who raised a good Christian son, except for the pretty pervy part, you’re going all Millstone on his ass.
I thought I raised you better than that.
Christian heritage? The Declation of Independence, though not a document of governance, was authored by a Deist. The US Constitution, which is very much the law of the land, was authored by a Deist.
Also the law of the land, the Treaty With Tripoli was authored by Joel Barlow, yet another Deist. And as I always point out, that treaty (Article XI and all) was ratified unanimously without dissent before being proudly signed into law by President John Adams. He was...you guessed it...a Deist.
Deist all the way down.
𝑆𝑜 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑘𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡. 𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑖𝑚. 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛
You can just put the period there.
Freedom for me but not for thee! Perhaps we could start putting that on the money instead of "In God We Trust"
How come they never say specifically which “Judeo-Christian principles [are] our heritage.”
It's the ones that say "see, we're not 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 Nazis".
Like Golden Rule = he who has the gold makes the rules, Judeo-Christian Values = Judeos and all others must follow Christian Values.
Well, it is pretty obvious it isn’t the statement in Revelation that the elect who get to go to heaven shall not have known women by lying with them…
Indiana is ranked dead last (50th) in Natural Environment, which includes pollution that is mainly due to heavy industrial toxins, coal-fired power plants and agricultural runoff. Air quality, waterways and industrial toxins all paint a ghastly picture.
Maybe Jerkwith should concentrate on REAL perils to his state.
Ugh, as a Hoosier, Beckwith is a massive POS and just keeps showing why he's got a 16% approval rating with Republicans and *9%* approval overall.
What happens when Christians run out of other religions to suppress? If history is any indication, Christians will turn on other Christians. Yet another holy war.
(And who ever came up with the oxymoron "holy war" anyway? Nothing holy about war)
“So Beckwith doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s a pattern for him. Because he’s conservative Christian, he knows he can lie constantly and his Republican base will never call him out on it.”
Oh, he knows good and well what he’s talking about. That’s why he’s lying. He’s intentionally telling falsehoods to gin up hate and fear in the base so they keep voting against their best interests and keep him in power and money. I am no longer giving the GOP any benefit of the doubt in regards to motives surrounding lies. No longer considering the “don’t attribute malice when ignorance will do” razor in dealings with the repubelicans. Their actions always end up being intentional and malicious. This is no different. Anyone who has gained an elected position should know that the call to prayer is not death and destruction, and if they do not they aren’t qualified for the position.
“𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑆𝑢𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑡 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑜𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝐾𝑒𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑑𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑠𝑒 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑, ‘𝐻𝑒𝑦, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑠𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑦 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑠.’ 𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑝 ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝐼𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑚 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑝𝑎𝑐𝑒𝑠. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛’𝑡 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑄𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑛 𝑢𝑝 𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑤𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑠, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑝𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑇𝑒𝑛 𝐶𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑢𝑝 𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑤𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑠. 𝑊ℎ𝑦? 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝐽𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑜-𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑟 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑔𝑒.”
Justice Roberts - "No, no no! You're not supposed to say that part out loud."
"Our public spaces." Beckwith wants mandatory Christianity everywhere, and all other religious viewpoints hidden. He won't punish you for having them, but he will punish you if you don't bow to his god in public.
because “Judeo-Christian principles [are] our heritage
“Heritage” and “states rights” have for too long have been racist dog whistles for Christo-fascists.
I’ve both lived in a majority Muslim city neighborhood at one time and have visited (key visited) a Muslim majority country where the call to prayer happens 5 times day (as it does) and I can’t say that I was as bothered by it as this fellow seems to be. In fact, it didn’t really bother me at all.
"Our culture should hold sway because we were here first, dammit!"
"What about the native Americans?"
"Second! Our culture should hold sway because we were here second!"
"What about the French fur trappers?"
"Third! Our culture should be followed by everyone because we were third! But certainly less recent than you!"
Oh those pesky Native Americans. It’s the same story around the world thanks to the expansion of colonialism and Abrahamic religions. Speaking of here’s a recent vid of the TR library (which I worked on):
https://www.instagram.com/p/DaiQDY3lY66/?img_index=10&igsh=dm01eHZ2cnV0Nmhh
Oh strange it doesn’t seem to link directly to the video, but you can see all the different groups of people celebrating and/or protesting
Only a bigoted asshole would think these words are a call for death and destruction:
Allahu Akbar (God is the Greatest)
Ash-hadu an la ilaha illallah (I bear witness that there is no god but God)
Ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasoolallah (I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God)
Hayya ‘alas-Salah (Rush to prayer)
Hayya ‘alal-Falah (Rush to success)
Allahu Akbar (God is the Greatest)
La ilaha illallah (There is no god but God)