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NOGODZ20's avatar

Any adult in the 21st Century who thinks demons are real is in serious need of professional help.

Beckwith's own church is embroiled in a child sex scandal and he ignores it? Guess what that just might make him.

Joe King's avatar

He sees kids in red and black costumes with black eye makeup and assumes demons, because the pop culture representation of the devil is a guy in red and black with black around the eyes. Indoctrination is one hell of a drug.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Do you suppose there's a 12-step program for people like Beckwith? Something like: "Stupidity Anonymous?"

Joe King's avatar

It would take more than 12 steps. The program is called "Bachelor of Arts/Science at accredited secular universities", and it would be difficult to get people like Beckwith enrolled.

Kukaan Ei Missään's avatar

It wouldn't work, a quotation from Jonathon Swift shows the reason why, "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired".

David Knickerbocker's avatar

Nope. They are brain dead zombies, not worth knowing or talking to.

Crowscage's avatar

9mm cures stupidity.

Maltnothops's avatar

The appearance of demons is a subject I’ll address from time to time at Christian Post. “How do you know what demons look like?” when “demonic-looking” comes up. That they cannot answer never troubles them.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I ask the same about ghosts when they say "We know Jesus wasn't a ghost when he was resurrected because..."

Wookiee Monster's avatar

As always, it depends on which gospel you read. In Mark, he’s a vague hallucination. In John, he appears out of thin air among the disciples. In Luke, he actually eats a fish to prove he’s not a ghost.

Kukaan Ei Missään's avatar

The thing that gets me about ghosts. The Earth is both rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun (as well as other motion through the galaxy and universe).

So, how come immaterial ghosts stay in the same position or, at most, mover over a very small area (which adds another question, how come they effectively move only in two dimensions)?

Vanity Unfair's avatar

....and do their clothes die with them?

Kukaan Ei Missään's avatar

The more questions you ask, the sillier it becomes...

susan conner's avatar

Looney tunes. They drank something. Was it Kool aid? Does it come in black and red? They all need to be picked up by the men in white coats and deposited into the looney bin. .what a terrible way to live - seeing all these things as evil. How totally boring.

David Knickerbocker's avatar

No, it’s because he and they are stupid.

oraxx's avatar

I'm pretty sure he sees himself as normal, and everyone else has the problems.

Airlane1979's avatar

The majority of the world's population believes in supernatural deities, so this man's delusions are entirely within the normative range for humans.

RegularJoe's avatar

I have tiny demons inside me. I got used to 'em, started assigning 'em background tasks and such. It's working out better than meds. 😉

https://youtu.be/ovY_hGsQ7Gs?si=5eG3KpnZDdZjqFss

Airlane1979's avatar

True... although surely that 'get some help' applies also to the billions of people who still believe in gods, angels and, seeing as how it's America, 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'.

Joe King's avatar

Red and black costumes! Classical music! Dogs and cats living together! It's demonic, I tell ya!

Beckwith, you are so willfully ignorant and over the top with your words that you are in danger of invoking Poe's law. It would not surprise me if you were to state that the only music that high school bands should be allowed to learn is gospel and JP Sousa marches.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

"Dogs and cats living together! "

Ooo! A buffet!

Richard S. Russell's avatar

Uh uh uh. Sousa marches are in 4/4 time, which is a direct insult to the Trinity. Only waltzes are truly godly.

Whitney's avatar

You confused me mightily, sir. Sousa occasionally wrote in 4/4 time, but many of his most famous works are written in 6/8, 2/4, or 2/2. I would argue that's academic, though, since I doubt Beckwith can keep time well enough to know what meter any piece of music is in anyway. ;)

lucyshadow's avatar

Or you could do a Waltz and the ungodly music that is Bolero in the same year.

(Fun fact: one of our US Ice Dance teams is doing just that this coming year, all Ice Dance teams have to stick to the "Rhythm and Waltz" theme for the upcoming season and do a part of the Golden Waltz in their Rhythm Dance, but they can do whatever for their Free Dance, and one of the American Teams decided to do Bolero for their Free Dance in the upcoming season, alongside the Waltz required in the Rhythm Dance)

DBB's avatar

From the prophet Bob to Micah Beckwith:

"Cause puss and dog they get together

What's wrong with loving one another?

Puss and dog they get together

What's wrong with you my brother?"

oraxx's avatar

Evidently, this idiot believes conservative Christians are the only people with rights and as such they are entitled to a privileged place in American society. It is not, and never has been, the duty of our secular government to backstop anyone’s religion. If you want to see what genuine persecution looks like, hand the power of life and death to people like Micah Beckwith.

Joe King's avatar

That's why he sees persecution when anyone else gets to have the same rights as he does.

oraxx's avatar

Where there is the expectation of privilege, equality will be seen as persecution.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Wor-ship him off to Islamabad.

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But it's hotter than HE double toothpicks there.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

That’s so crazy it just might work!

DBB's avatar

It's called malignant narcissism and chronic self-centeredness 🤷‍♂️

NOGODZ20's avatar

Indiana. The state with both the worst pollution in the country and a 40th ranked economy. And Beckwith squeals about a high school band?

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Hey, he's got to squeal about SOMETHING! 😝

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Squeal, piggy, squeal!

And you know what was happening in which movie which got him excited.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

That’s the part that got him excited.

Jill Barrow's avatar

But how long have yr Repubs been in power? Sounds like yours have been in bed w/our Repubs here in Texas...ours have held the Gov seat & legislatures for 30 +/- yrs. I've been watching (& suffering ill effects from) the whole structure sliding downwards faster & faster. They're some of Most disgusting, invasive, racist & vile humans on this planet.

Aocm🇨🇦🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️'s avatar

He has no mental capacity to do anything good so yeh, he’ll squeal BS

DBB's avatar

But number one in Jesus casual wear (check out Beckwirth's get-up 🙄)!

Linda's avatar

I would have played the clarinet in school for longer if I could participate in fun performances like this. I remember in 5th grade chorus we practiced Imagine by John Lennon for months leading up to the concert. We were eventually banned from performing the song in concert because it said, “Imagine there’s no heaven”. Our chorus teacher was a cool old hippie rocker guy. He made going to school fun.

Joan the Dork's avatar

If we'd done more things like that in middle school choir and less churchy god-bothering (and this was in public school!) I might have kept singing. Probably not, because I hated the sound of my own voice particularly hard right around then, but... I dunno. All the repetitive goddy latin lyrics turned me right off the whole thing.

Linda's avatar

💔

I have the most terrible voice imaginable. Probably good for everyone I stopped singing 😂

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Maltnothops's avatar

Me too. Can’t sing at all. Love to sing along with my music.

Jill Barrow's avatar

Sounds like you were raised in Texas.

Linda's avatar

Sadly this was Connecticut. Late 80’s-90’s. Just say no! I feel like my generation understands better now than anyone what Nixon/Reagan did looking back.

Boreal's avatar

"I was made aware of this from Christian students who attend Westfield, and they said they felt uncomfortable but didn't want to speak out because they were afraid to speak out. They were not being seen, they were not being heard, so I didn't go looking for this — it was brought to my attention," Beckwith told Blakeslee.

This is a lie. Christians are always looking for ways to denigrate others who don't conform to their delusions.

Joan the Dork's avatar

I rather doubt it was the students... but I wouldn't put it past a small handful of pearl-clutching 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 to complain. Or to escalate all the way to the state government without even going to the school board first (because then their community would know they were the ones who spoiled everyone else's fun, and they wouldn't get invited to the neighborhood potluck anymore).

Maltnothops's avatar

Yeah…..because high school students reach out to the Lt Gov of a state all the time. That’s totally normal.

Boreal's avatar

Micah Beckwith: soon to be exposed as (choose one or all):

a Pedophile

a Rapist

an Adulterer

a Thief

wreck's avatar

A Moron. Oh, wait....

tomhr's avatar

ha ha ha -touche!~

NOGODZ20's avatar

All of the above.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

“godly boldness” “the Jezebel spirit” "Yeah, this is demonic."

Good grief, what eight-dimensional warp did this guy come out of???

It's pretty clear to me that Micah Beckwith is utterly IGNORANT as it comes to the music he is so upset about. The opera Carmen was written in 1875, and while it outraged some attendees at its first performances, it has been a standard part of the orchestral repertoire for over a century. As for Bolero, it was written in 1928 and premiered in the US under the baton of Arturo Toscanini to rave reviews. Where Beckwith gets anything resembling "demonic" from either of these pieces can be little other than his own warped imagination.

If Beckwith is being called on the carpet for his madness, it's only because HE DESERVES IT!

Joe King's avatar

I'm not sure he was even listening to the music. (They had great arrangements, btw.) I think he was focused on the costumes, which, if you squint hard enough, kind of resemble typical cartoon representations of the devil.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Lovely. Another child in a man-suit who is likely afraid of his own shadow. 😝

Joan the Dork's avatar

If I had a face like that guy, I think I'd be more afraid of my 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 than my shadow.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

A classic Tom and Jerry cartoon "Carmen get it" has music from that opera along with the scene where Jerry scares off the main character from the opera just as she was about to sing her line.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Ha! Guess I missed that one. On the other hand, who here HASN'T seen "What's Opera, Doc?"

OwossoHarpist's avatar

Or "The Rabbit of Seville."

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Last week I was somewhere where that was showing on a TV with no audio. I hadn't seen it in years. I could hear every single second in my mind.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

You think that Beckwith would actually admire Bolero. After all, it repeats itself endlessly.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

At least when Bolero repeats itself, it employs multiple different instruments and some interesting dissonances, while constantly building in intensity. I've heard it at least three times live at Severance Hall, never mind having a couple performances on vinyl or CD, and I have always enjoyed it.

Beckwith? Not so much.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I saw it once performed as a ballet (ish). It was cowboy themed and each of the instrument groups were represented by different colored outfits.A bit strange but very well done.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Intriguing. Side Note: I'm looking forward to working Prokofiev's Cinderella at Playhouse Square in a few weeks. Have loved Sergei's music for years and VERY interested in seeing it danced!

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I’ve heard it four or five times in concert myself. It’s always much better in real life than it is in recordings.

Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Many things are. However, I saw a Manheim Steamroller christmas concert a few years ago. It was performed very well, but it was so mechanical that it was almost indistinguishable from just listening to the albums.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Bo Derek would agree! 😁

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

I remember the time when Focus on the Family had a magazine issue containing an article where they find fault with every popular cartoon franchise out there to which they claimed associated with devils, demons, magic, gay and lesbian sex, anything that raises their fragile ire without ever know the real reason why these cartoons were made that way other than to stimulate imaginations in especially kids and be entertained by them.

Seriously, these cartoons and video games people enjoy are all fantasy, made for entertainment purposes only. Can't these idiotic, dim-witted, conservative christofascists understand that!?

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Short answer: no.

Longer answer: that would spoil their narrative.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

"I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT!" Yeah, right ... 🤦‍♂️

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One of the movies, although I can’t remember which one because there have been so many, actually showed superman suspended above the Earth, arms spread wide and feet together, almost as if he were being crucified. And that was sort of the situation if I recall, but it’s been many years since I saw it. I’ve always been amazed that nobody seemed to catch that, at least as far as I could tell. The allusion to Jesus on the cross could not have been more obvious

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Have you seen that bulge in his speedo? They can make a fundament though always feel very uncomfortable “down there”.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

I’m in Slovenia right now, – yes, the Homeland of the woman who married that sort of a person— so my coffee was eight hours ago.* Nevertheless…

“ Indiana residents should be furious that a guy like Beckwith is embarrassing their state when they have all these talented students and teachers who deserve far more attention. ” no, they won’t be. It’s Indiana, the Mississippi of the north. Except without the sparkle or the swamps. Though to be fair, if they toss out their Republican “leadership”, I’ll believe it then.

First, is there no bottom to the depths to which right wing Republican so-called Christians will sink? I don’t even think hell is at the bottom of how far they are willing to sink. But I can see what happened. The colors for their poster are red and black. They are dressed like mysterious hooded figures that you might see in some sort of fantasy or science fiction movie. In fact, we’ve all seen that movie.

It is from a poor representation of a fiction in a movie most likely Beckwith never saw that fuels his silly pronouncement that this is all about devil worshiping and sin. If you can’t distinguish reality from Fable in his Bible, how is he going to do it when Hollywood or one of its cheap ass relatives is showing it on the big screen?

I mean, it looks so real!

But that’s really besides the point. he accomplished his goal. He manufactured some outrage where there shouldn’t have been any. he attacked the public schools with nothing but the rotten fruits of his own imagination. He encouraged the kind of people that listen to people like him to pull their children out of public school, guaranteeing that they will be less than educated, less than capable of criticizing Christianity as beckwith practices it, and will be more meat for the ruling class.

But it’s also clear that Beckwith has never been to an opera, let alone seen Carmen, and has probably never seen anything that might classify as great art. Can you imagine what kind of a fainting spell he would have if he ever went into any of the great museums in the world?

There is something seriously wrong with this man, as there is with what he claims to represent. And there is something very seriously wrong with the country, when one third of the country still supports this kind of know nothing, phillistine babbitry and mediocrity.

* true story. When I arrived I did a walking tour of Ljubljana. The first thing our guide asked us was if we knew any famous Slovenians. I said, “Well, there is that woman who married that man”. I got a good laugh out of that one. I didn’t even need to mention its name. The guide laughed too, and said, “ I mean someone who actually did something good in the world.’

Bensnewlogin's avatar

It’s basically European coffee, but how shall we say, expensive. Four dollars for a cup, which means my normal 3 cups would cost more than my breakfast does. It’s decent. the food here is also pretty good, though it can’t decide whether it wants to be Austrian or Italian. I’m going to go to one of the better restaurants in Ljubljana tonight for dinner, or so I am told. But it has been basically pretty good.

Mommadillo's avatar

I’d ask how a dolt like Beckwith wound up as lieutenant governor, but . . . you know . . . (shrugs and gestures towards DC)

Joe King's avatar

It's Indiana. Voters paid no attention to what kind of lunatic he is and just saw the (R) next to his name.

Sarcasticfive's avatar

Word around here is that he taught his friends, family and church members how to get on the committee that selects the Lt. Governor so they could vote him in...

RegularJoe's avatar

To be fair, have you 𝒎𝒆𝒕 band kids?

Joe King's avatar

Well, this one time, at band camp....

wreck's avatar

It's been decades since high school, but yeah, the band kids were worse than the stoners and greasers. The marching was the most demonic!

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

This is what fascists do, they tear down humanities for the sake of the authoritarian and corporations. This is more than just taking down public schools, which is quite enough on its own, but it is about eliminating the arts. It is part and parcel of the Trump takeover of the Kennedy Center, tearing down the East Wing of the White House, attacking Bruce Springsteen, even tearing out the Rose Garden. While Trump is doing this to direct all culture and art to his taste and glory, Beckwith is doing it to direct lol culture and art to Christianity’s taste and glory. Just like the Mediccis and popes of the past.

People use artistic expression, music being one of the most effective due to its reach across classes and races. Carmen might not be known by the average American, but the music transcends class and is compelling in and of itself. Music has always been a tool for revolution against authority. The battle drums have always been a part of wars, rallying allies, building morale, and setting a fearful mood in battle. So much of music throughout history has been of a rebellious nature, like the anti-war folk music of the 60s. Authoritarians always attack music, calling it demonic, remember the 80s, or the Baptist aversion to dancing. All art does this, but music has always way of bringing people together in ways that visual arts can’t, museums being the gatekeepers and have an air of exclusivity, music is not contained by walls. Anyway, fascists need the people to be submissive, so controlling the arts, especially music, is an attempt to destroy morale and maintain power.

Beckwith may not be motivated this way intentionally, he might think this is only about public schools, but he is using a tried and true method of authoritarian control to advance the fascist state.

Jennifer's avatar

Republicans ARE the party of religious nutters and nepo-babies. Their voters are somehow impressed by these cretins. It blows my mind. If people had at least a tiny bit of critical thinking skill, they'd see that these clowns are not worth the worship they give them. It's both sad and frustrating. This loon coming after kids that have busted their butts learning and refining their skills deserve so much better than this. This guy should lose his office and be banished from society. Thank goodness the community is being supportive of the kids. Also, unfounded threats of defunding by an elected official should be a prosecutable offense.

Jill Barrow's avatar

They're also the party of "let's create a problem & then solve it"

Linda's avatar

Really. We are living through a manmade crisis right now.

Linda's avatar

“The Red Line follows a journey of knowing where boundaries exist, yet feeling an urge to cross them. From the restraint of Bolero to the fire of Carmen Fantasy and Capriccio Espagnol, restraint gives way to passion as precision collides with obsession, leaving us changed forever.”

Atheism, stripped of caricature, is not rebellion. It is restraint.

Ut-oh someone feels threatened. Also, nice opportunity to promote sending your kids to Christian private schools.

Joe King's avatar

𝑀𝑎𝑦𝑏𝑒 ℎ𝑒’𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑚𝑎𝑑 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑒𝑑𝑙𝑦 “𝐷𝐼𝑆𝐼𝑁𝑉𝐼𝑇𝐸𝐷” ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑎𝑔𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑖𝑛 2024, 𝑎 𝑚𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝐵𝑒𝑐𝑘𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙.

Trumpian tantrum, maybe?

Troublesh00ter's avatar

It follows the pattern, for sure!