He sees kids in red and black costumes with black eye makeup and assumes demons, because the pop culture representation of the devil is a guy in red and black with black around the eyes. Indoctrination is one hell of a drug.
It would take more than 12 steps. The program is called "Bachelor of Arts/Science at accredited secular universities", and it would be difficult to get people like Beckwith enrolled.
It wouldn't work, a quotation from Jonathon Swift shows the reason why, "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired".
The appearance of demons is a subject I’ll address from time to time at Christian Post. “How do you know what demons look like?” when “demonic-looking” comes up. That they cannot answer never troubles them.
The thing that gets me about ghosts. The Earth is both rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun (as well as other motion through the galaxy and universe).
So, how come immaterial ghosts stay in the same position or, at most, mover over a very small area (which adds another question, how come they effectively move only in two dimensions)?
As always, it depends on which gospel you read. In Mark, he’s a vague hallucination. In John, he appears out of thin air among the disciples. In Luke, he actually eats a fish to prove he’s not a ghost.
Looney tunes. They drank something. Was it Kool aid? Does it come in black and red? They all need to be picked up by the men in white coats and deposited into the looney bin. .what a terrible way to live - seeing all these things as evil. How totally boring.
True... although surely that 'get some help' applies also to the billions of people who still believe in gods, angels and, seeing as how it's America, 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'.
Red and black costumes! Classical music! Dogs and cats living together! It's demonic, I tell ya!
Beckwith, you are so willfully ignorant and over the top with your words that you are in danger of invoking Poe's law. It would not surprise me if you were to state that the only music that high school bands should be allowed to learn is gospel and JP Sousa marches.
But how long have yr Repubs been in power? Sounds like yours have been in bed w/our Repubs here in Texas...ours have held the Gov seat & legislatures for 30 +/- yrs. I've been watching (& suffering ill effects from) the whole structure sliding downwards faster & faster. They're some of Most disgusting, invasive, racist & vile humans on this planet.
Evidently, this idiot believes conservative Christians are the only people with rights and as such they are entitled to a privileged place in American society. It is not, and never has been, the duty of our secular government to backstop anyone’s religion. If you want to see what genuine persecution looks like, hand the power of life and death to people like Micah Beckwith.
I would have played the clarinet in school for longer if I could participate in fun performances like this. I remember in 5th grade chorus we practiced Imagine by John Lennon for months leading up to the concert. We were eventually banned from performing the song in concert because it said, “Imagine there’s no heaven”. Our chorus teacher was a cool old hippie rocker guy. He made going to school fun.
If we'd done more things like that in middle school choir and less churchy god-bothering (and this was in public school!) I might have kept singing. Probably not, because I hated the sound of my own voice particularly hard right around then, but... I dunno. All the repetitive goddy latin lyrics turned me right off the whole thing.
Sadly this was Connecticut. Late 80’s-90’s. Just say no! I feel like my generation understands better now than anyone what Nixon/Reagan did looking back.
"I was made aware of this from Christian students who attend Westfield, and they said they felt uncomfortable but didn't want to speak out because they were afraid to speak out. They were not being seen, they were not being heard, so I didn't go looking for this — it was brought to my attention," Beckwith told Blakeslee.
This is a lie. Christians are always looking for ways to denigrate others who don't conform to their delusions.
Christians lie all the time for their imaginary jeezywhore, so it wouldn’t surprise me that this fucker is lying about the Christian students not being heard!
I rather doubt it was the students... but I wouldn't put it past a small handful of pearl-clutching 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 to complain. Or to escalate all the way to the state government without even going to the school board first (because then their community would know they were the ones who spoiled everyone else's fun, and they wouldn't get invited to the neighborhood potluck anymore).
I shudder to think what Beckwith would make of, say, The Mephisto Waltz, and there are plenty of other classical pieces that flirt with, shall we say, less than savory topics!
“godly boldness” “the Jezebel spirit” "Yeah, this is demonic."
Good grief, what eight-dimensional warp did this guy come out of???
It's pretty clear to me that Micah Beckwith is utterly IGNORANT as it comes to the music he is so upset about. The opera Carmen was written in 1875, and while it outraged some attendees at its first performances, it has been a standard part of the orchestral repertoire for over a century. As for Bolero, it was written in 1928 and premiered in the US under the baton of Arturo Toscanini to rave reviews. Where Beckwith gets anything resembling "demonic" from either of these pieces can be little other than his own warped imagination.
If Beckwith is being called on the carpet for his madness, it's only because HE DESERVES IT!
A classic Tom and Jerry cartoon "Carmen get it" has music from that opera along with the scene where Jerry scares off the main character from the opera just as she was about to sing her line.
Most of the time when the banshees for jeezywhore scream that something is demonic, satanic, or evil; most of the time they (Christians) can’t tell you why it is satanic, demonic, etc, because they never actually read the book, listen to the music, or watch the movie/t.v show, but they (Christians) just know it is evil!
I remember the time when Focus on the Family had a magazine issue containing an article where they find fault with every popular cartoon franchise out there to which they claimed associated with devils, demons, magic, gay and lesbian sex, anything that raises their fragile ire without ever know the real reason why these cartoons were made that way other than to stimulate imaginations in especially kids and be entertained by them.
Seriously, these cartoons and video games people enjoy are all fantasy, made for entertainment purposes only. Can't these idiotic, dim-witted, conservative christofascists understand that!?
Exactly, but ask specifically of what makes it evil, the Christians can’t tell you because they never read it, watch it, etc.
I had a Christian tell me that the SUPERMAN comic promotes Satanism (yes, you read that right), I ask him where it promotes Satanism and he told me that he never read the comic. So I ask how does he know that it promotes Satanism, he was told by his pastor that it does. I ask if his pastor has actually read SUPERMAN comic, and was told that the pastor doesn’t read satanic books, so then how does he actually know it promotes Satanism if he has never read it. The pastor “JUST KNOWS” it promotes Satanism. It is the jumping to conclusions without actual evidence that floors me, but as I stated before unless it talks about jeezywhore/goddybitch at every line or scene 24/7 otherwise according to the right wing jesusfuckers it must be demonic/satanic!
I'm not sure he was even listening to the music. (They had great arrangements, btw.) I think he was focused on the costumes, which, if you squint hard enough, kind of resemble typical cartoon representations of the devil.
At least when Bolero repeats itself, it employs multiple different instruments and some interesting dissonances, while constantly building in intensity. I've heard it at least three times live at Severance Hall, never mind having a couple performances on vinyl or CD, and I have always enjoyed it.
I saw it once performed as a ballet (ish). It was cowboy themed and each of the instrument groups were represented by different colored outfits.A bit strange but very well done.
Intriguing. Side Note: I'm looking forward to working Prokofiev's Cinderella at Playhouse Square in a few weeks. Have loved Sergei's music for years and VERY interested in seeing it danced!
Many things are. However, I saw a Manheim Steamroller christmas concert a few years ago. It was performed very well, but it was so mechanical that it was almost indistinguishable from just listening to the albums.
This is as horribly bad as any preacher making slanderous comments about the Poke'mon Nintendo franchise allegedly being of the Devil (due to it containing ghosts and psychic type Poke'mon and some instances of gambling) when there's absolutely nothing wrong with them at all. It's obvious they've never really played the games at all whether in card of video game form. They just simply pulled everything out of their arses to make a big show of it just for the heck of it.
See also: Jack Thompson's crusade against video games, the Satanic Panic specifically as pertains to D&D, the Hays Code, etc... meet the new moral media panic, same as the old moral media panic. It's not enough that they hate having fun themselves- they've got to make sure nobody 𝘦𝘭𝘴𝘦 is having any, either.
Republicans ARE the party of religious nutters and nepo-babies. Their voters are somehow impressed by these cretins. It blows my mind. If people had at least a tiny bit of critical thinking skill, they'd see that these clowns are not worth the worship they give them. It's both sad and frustrating. This loon coming after kids that have busted their butts learning and refining their skills deserve so much better than this. This guy should lose his office and be banished from society. Thank goodness the community is being supportive of the kids. Also, unfounded threats of defunding by an elected official should be a prosecutable offense.
Word around here is that he taught his friends, family and church members how to get on the committee that selects the Lt. Governor so they could vote him in...
Can you you imagine what the screaming would be like it students went to a museum in Italy and saw a naked David, the Christians would scream that they (the students)were being groomed. Oh wait, that did actually happen happened, to the embarrassment of the school!
So any bets on when the Christian fuckwits are going to start issuing death threats against the school, until the band is abolished. Cause we all know that the jesusfuckers will resort to violence unless they (Christians) get their way!
If any death threats ARE forthcoming, I hope the news of them goes viral so people can see how vile these jesusfuckers are, and ask themselves if they want to live in the kind of micro-managed fascist country these demented assholes will construct.
And I hope such threats will be thoroughly investigated and any perpetrators caught are held accountable. Okay, so a girl can dream, but the past time I checked, I thought making such threats was a crime?
Any adult in the 21st Century who thinks demons are real is in serious need of professional help.
Beckwith's own church is embroiled in a child sex scandal and he ignores it? Guess what that just might make him.
He sees kids in red and black costumes with black eye makeup and assumes demons, because the pop culture representation of the devil is a guy in red and black with black around the eyes. Indoctrination is one hell of a drug.
Do you suppose there's a 12-step program for people like Beckwith? Something like: "Stupidity Anonymous?"
It would take more than 12 steps. The program is called "Bachelor of Arts/Science at accredited secular universities", and it would be difficult to get people like Beckwith enrolled.
It wouldn't work, a quotation from Jonathon Swift shows the reason why, "Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired".
The appearance of demons is a subject I’ll address from time to time at Christian Post. “How do you know what demons look like?” when “demonic-looking” comes up. That they cannot answer never troubles them.
I ask the same about ghosts when they say "We know Jesus wasn't a ghost when he was resurrected because..."
The thing that gets me about ghosts. The Earth is both rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun (as well as other motion through the galaxy and universe).
So, how come immaterial ghosts stay in the same position or, at most, mover over a very small area (which adds another question, how come they effectively move only in two dimensions)?
As always, it depends on which gospel you read. In Mark, he’s a vague hallucination. In John, he appears out of thin air among the disciples. In Luke, he actually eats a fish to prove he’s not a ghost.
Looney tunes. They drank something. Was it Kool aid? Does it come in black and red? They all need to be picked up by the men in white coats and deposited into the looney bin. .what a terrible way to live - seeing all these things as evil. How totally boring.
I'm pretty sure he sees himself as normal, and everyone else has the problems.
The majority of the world's population believes in supernatural deities, so this man's delusions are entirely within the normative range for humans.
I have tiny demons inside me. I got used to 'em, started assigning 'em background tasks and such. It's working out better than meds. 😉
https://youtu.be/ovY_hGsQ7Gs?si=5eG3KpnZDdZjqFss
True... although surely that 'get some help' applies also to the billions of people who still believe in gods, angels and, seeing as how it's America, 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'.
Red and black costumes! Classical music! Dogs and cats living together! It's demonic, I tell ya!
Beckwith, you are so willfully ignorant and over the top with your words that you are in danger of invoking Poe's law. It would not surprise me if you were to state that the only music that high school bands should be allowed to learn is gospel and JP Sousa marches.
"Dogs and cats living together! "
Ooo! A buffet!
Maybe even country and western too!
From the prophet Bob to Micah Beckwith:
"Cause puss and dog they get together
What's wrong with loving one another?
Puss and dog they get together
What's wrong with you my brother?"
Micah Beckwith: soon to be exposed as (choose one or all):
a Pedophile
a Rapist
an Adulterer
a Thief
All of the above.
A Moron. Oh, wait....
All of above!
All of the above and more.
Indiana. The state with both the worst pollution in the country and a 40th ranked economy. And Beckwith squeals about a high school band?
Hey, he's got to squeal about SOMETHING! 😝
Squeal, piggy, squeal!
And you know what was happening in which movie which got him excited.
😬
But how long have yr Repubs been in power? Sounds like yours have been in bed w/our Repubs here in Texas...ours have held the Gov seat & legislatures for 30 +/- yrs. I've been watching (& suffering ill effects from) the whole structure sliding downwards faster & faster. They're some of Most disgusting, invasive, racist & vile humans on this planet.
He has no mental capacity to do anything good so yeh, he’ll squeal BS
But number one in Jesus casual wear (check out Beckwirth's get-up 🙄)!
Evidently, this idiot believes conservative Christians are the only people with rights and as such they are entitled to a privileged place in American society. It is not, and never has been, the duty of our secular government to backstop anyone’s religion. If you want to see what genuine persecution looks like, hand the power of life and death to people like Micah Beckwith.
That's why he sees persecution when anyone else gets to have the same rights as he does.
Wor-ship him off to Islamabad.
Send the banshees for jeezywhore to Venus!
But it's hotter than HE double toothpicks there.
The fuckwits can then prove to us the power of prayer that they keep blabbing about to bring down the temperature on the surface of Venus!
That’s so crazy it just might work!
It's called malignant narcissism and chronic self-centeredness 🤷♂️
I would have played the clarinet in school for longer if I could participate in fun performances like this. I remember in 5th grade chorus we practiced Imagine by John Lennon for months leading up to the concert. We were eventually banned from performing the song in concert because it said, “Imagine there’s no heaven”. Our chorus teacher was a cool old hippie rocker guy. He made going to school fun.
If we'd done more things like that in middle school choir and less churchy god-bothering (and this was in public school!) I might have kept singing. Probably not, because I hated the sound of my own voice particularly hard right around then, but... I dunno. All the repetitive goddy latin lyrics turned me right off the whole thing.
💔
I have the most terrible voice imaginable. Probably good for everyone I stopped singing 😂
I hate my voice too, even though I was in choirs or choruses all through middle school and high school. I sing when nobody's around.
Sounds like you were raised in Texas.
Sadly this was Connecticut. Late 80’s-90’s. Just say no! I feel like my generation understands better now than anyone what Nixon/Reagan did looking back.
"I was made aware of this from Christian students who attend Westfield, and they said they felt uncomfortable but didn't want to speak out because they were afraid to speak out. They were not being seen, they were not being heard, so I didn't go looking for this — it was brought to my attention," Beckwith told Blakeslee.
This is a lie. Christians are always looking for ways to denigrate others who don't conform to their delusions.
Christians lie all the time for their imaginary jeezywhore, so it wouldn’t surprise me that this fucker is lying about the Christian students not being heard!
I rather doubt it was the students... but I wouldn't put it past a small handful of pearl-clutching 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 to complain. Or to escalate all the way to the state government without even going to the school board first (because then their community would know they were the ones who spoiled everyone else's fun, and they wouldn't get invited to the neighborhood potluck anymore).
Another jesusfucker that thinks that unless something talks about jeezywhore/goddybitch, every few lines or ever word otherwise it is demonic!
First rule of Jesus Club, never shut about Jesus Club.
I shudder to think what Beckwith would make of, say, The Mephisto Waltz, and there are plenty of other classical pieces that flirt with, shall we say, less than savory topics!
Don’t even begin to bring up the Scarlet letter.
I TOLD YOU NOT TO BRING UP THE SCARLET LETTER! BUT YOU WERE THINKING OF IT! WEREN’T YOU?!?!?
Actually ... I was thinking about Don Giovanni, who was pretty funky in his own right! 😁
Actually, i think you mispelled funky. When it comes to Dun Giovanni, there ought to be a C in place of the N.
“godly boldness” “the Jezebel spirit” "Yeah, this is demonic."
Good grief, what eight-dimensional warp did this guy come out of???
It's pretty clear to me that Micah Beckwith is utterly IGNORANT as it comes to the music he is so upset about. The opera Carmen was written in 1875, and while it outraged some attendees at its first performances, it has been a standard part of the orchestral repertoire for over a century. As for Bolero, it was written in 1928 and premiered in the US under the baton of Arturo Toscanini to rave reviews. Where Beckwith gets anything resembling "demonic" from either of these pieces can be little other than his own warped imagination.
If Beckwith is being called on the carpet for his madness, it's only because HE DESERVES IT!
A classic Tom and Jerry cartoon "Carmen get it" has music from that opera along with the scene where Jerry scares off the main character from the opera just as she was about to sing her line.
Ha! Guess I missed that one. On the other hand, who here HASN'T seen "What's Opera, Doc?"
Or "The Rabbit of Seville."
Last week I was somewhere where that was showing on a TV with no audio. I hadn't seen it in years. I could hear every single second in my mind.
Most of the time when the banshees for jeezywhore scream that something is demonic, satanic, or evil; most of the time they (Christians) can’t tell you why it is satanic, demonic, etc, because they never actually read the book, listen to the music, or watch the movie/t.v show, but they (Christians) just know it is evil!
I remember the time when Focus on the Family had a magazine issue containing an article where they find fault with every popular cartoon franchise out there to which they claimed associated with devils, demons, magic, gay and lesbian sex, anything that raises their fragile ire without ever know the real reason why these cartoons were made that way other than to stimulate imaginations in especially kids and be entertained by them.
Seriously, these cartoons and video games people enjoy are all fantasy, made for entertainment purposes only. Can't these idiotic, dim-witted, conservative christofascists understand that!?
Short answer: NO
Long Answer: JEEZYBOY FUCKS A DEAD DONKEY’S ASS, HELL NO!
"I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT!" Yeah, right ... 🤦♂️
Exactly, but ask specifically of what makes it evil, the Christians can’t tell you because they never read it, watch it, etc.
I had a Christian tell me that the SUPERMAN comic promotes Satanism (yes, you read that right), I ask him where it promotes Satanism and he told me that he never read the comic. So I ask how does he know that it promotes Satanism, he was told by his pastor that it does. I ask if his pastor has actually read SUPERMAN comic, and was told that the pastor doesn’t read satanic books, so then how does he actually know it promotes Satanism if he has never read it. The pastor “JUST KNOWS” it promotes Satanism. It is the jumping to conclusions without actual evidence that floors me, but as I stated before unless it talks about jeezywhore/goddybitch at every line or scene 24/7 otherwise according to the right wing jesusfuckers it must be demonic/satanic!
I'm not sure he was even listening to the music. (They had great arrangements, btw.) I think he was focused on the costumes, which, if you squint hard enough, kind of resemble typical cartoon representations of the devil.
Lovely. Another child in a man-suit who is likely afraid of his own shadow. 😝
If I had a face like that guy, I think I'd be more afraid of my 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 than my shadow.
😝😝😝
You think that Beckwith would actually admire Bowlero. After all, it repeats itself endlessly.
At least when Bolero repeats itself, it employs multiple different instruments and some interesting dissonances, while constantly building in intensity. I've heard it at least three times live at Severance Hall, never mind having a couple performances on vinyl or CD, and I have always enjoyed it.
Beckwith? Not so much.
I saw it once performed as a ballet (ish). It was cowboy themed and each of the instrument groups were represented by different colored outfits.A bit strange but very well done.
Intriguing. Side Note: I'm looking forward to working Prokofiev's Cinderella at Playhouse Square in a few weeks. Have loved Sergei's music for years and VERY interested in seeing it danced!
I’ve heard it four or five times in concert myself. It’s always much better in real life than it is in recordings.
Many things are. However, I saw a Manheim Steamroller christmas concert a few years ago. It was performed very well, but it was so mechanical that it was almost indistinguishable from just listening to the albums.
To be fair, have you 𝒎𝒆𝒕 band kids?
Well, this one time, at band camp....
I was a band kid...
It's been decades since high school, but yeah, the band kids were worse than the stoners and greasers. The marching was the most demonic!
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CusAAOSwCT5jVBW-/s-l400.jpg
DEMONS (to NoGodz): "Was it good for you, too?"
{lascivious moan!}
A little Southpark reference?
This is as horribly bad as any preacher making slanderous comments about the Poke'mon Nintendo franchise allegedly being of the Devil (due to it containing ghosts and psychic type Poke'mon and some instances of gambling) when there's absolutely nothing wrong with them at all. It's obvious they've never really played the games at all whether in card of video game form. They just simply pulled everything out of their arses to make a big show of it just for the heck of it.
See also: Jack Thompson's crusade against video games, the Satanic Panic specifically as pertains to D&D, the Hays Code, etc... meet the new moral media panic, same as the old moral media panic. It's not enough that they hate having fun themselves- they've got to make sure nobody 𝘦𝘭𝘴𝘦 is having any, either.
Republicans ARE the party of religious nutters and nepo-babies. Their voters are somehow impressed by these cretins. It blows my mind. If people had at least a tiny bit of critical thinking skill, they'd see that these clowns are not worth the worship they give them. It's both sad and frustrating. This loon coming after kids that have busted their butts learning and refining their skills deserve so much better than this. This guy should lose his office and be banished from society. Thank goodness the community is being supportive of the kids. Also, unfounded threats of defunding by an elected official should be a prosecutable offense.
They're also the party of "let's create a problem & then solve it"
Really. We are living through a manmade crisis right now.
I’d ask how a dolt like Beckwith wound up as lieutenant governor, but . . . you know . . . (shrugs and gestures towards DC)
It's Indiana. Voters paid no attention to what kind of lunatic he is and just saw the (R) next to his name.
Mike Pence.
Word around here is that he taught his friends, family and church members how to get on the committee that selects the Lt. Governor so they could vote him in...
Can you you imagine what the screaming would be like it students went to a museum in Italy and saw a naked David, the Christians would scream that they (the students)were being groomed. Oh wait, that did actually happen happened, to the embarrassment of the school!
The Simpsons did an episode about censorship that involved the statue of David on display in the Springfield museum.
So any bets on when the Christian fuckwits are going to start issuing death threats against the school, until the band is abolished. Cause we all know that the jesusfuckers will resort to violence unless they (Christians) get their way!
Christian love = hate!
Shall we start the countdown? 3...2...1...
If any death threats ARE forthcoming, I hope the news of them goes viral so people can see how vile these jesusfuckers are, and ask themselves if they want to live in the kind of micro-managed fascist country these demented assholes will construct.
And I hope such threats will be thoroughly investigated and any perpetrators caught are held accountable. Okay, so a girl can dream, but the past time I checked, I thought making such threats was a crime?