It begins with the Catholic Church's fundamentally irrational view of human sexuality. I don't care if priests are gay. I always assumed most of them were, and most of them don't hurt anyone. This effort is more about the sexual hypocrisy of the church than anything remotely moral.
The Catholic Church has far too many skeletons in its wide open walk-in closet to ever be considered remotely moral. Not just centuries of molesting children all around the world, but residential schools, crusades, financial graft, witch hunts, and numerous other morally corrupt policies and actions throughout its long history. It has rarely been on the right side of history or any moral question. This is just another data point in the study of the immorality of Catholicism.
I walked away from the church over half a century ago, and never regretted it. What little faith I had left was dangling by a thread when I listened to an idiot priest in Vietnam give us a kill a commie for Christ pep talk. He thought we had been chosen to defend the church from the godless communists. All we wanted to do was survive and go home.
What this article tells me, beyond anything else, is the utterly distorted priorities the Catholic Church has set regarding just WHAT sins they want to investigate and how. It's eminently clear that they are apparently far more interested in going after gay priests, who are likely doing little to no harm, than they are in the pedophiles in their numbers. The intolerable damage those predators have done to children worldwide has been documented more ways than I could count, yet it would seem as though that warrants less of their attention than a priest who desires some intimate company.
Vatican City desperately needs to pull their individual and collective heads out of their asses and recognize that their skewed view of what needs to be corrected in their ranks requires some serious rethinking.
Interesting, considering that the RCC has had several dioceses sued virtually out of existence by victims of priest-child sexual abuse. I will continue to assert that the REAL shame is that the price has yet to be extracted of the actual perpetrators, in terms of jail time and personal financial restitution, with VERY rare exceptions. If Vatican City has come to the rescue of any of them, it's news to me.
And until the penalties for the Church's sexual predation of children become as personal as they have been financial, the abuse will continue.
Thing is, they haven't actually been sued out of existence. They've been sued to the point where they've had to declare bankruptcy. That doesn't mean they no longer exist; it just means they're off the hook for paying their creditors and VICTIMS. And that's hardly anything to feel good about.
Anybody ever wonder why the Jihadist Muslims have never attacked Vatican City? It's because they know this is what makes "the enemy" the enemy. And with no enemy, Islam has nothing.
“whose trustees are philanthropists Mark Bauman, John Martin and Tim Reichert,”
“Philanthropist: a person who seeks to promote the welfare of others, especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.”
If they are donating to causes whose purpose is to unwillingly out and harass LGBT people, they are not philanthropists. Philanthropy requires you do good things, promote the welfare of others, not harass and torture people because they don’t fit in your narrow world view.
Don’t lie to pretend you’re trying to protect children when all you’re looking for is adult consensual behaviors.
Of the 2 great evil, corrupt, greedy, misogynistic, authoritarian, dehumanizing organizations that have spread their tentacles from Italy over the rest of civilization, why does only the less pernicious one, the Mafia, have the bad reputation?
It's never been the sex that the RCC had a problem with. It's the consent. They'll happily mount a centuries-long global campaign to cover for the rapists in their midst, but if they discover one among them has been getting a little mutually-desired action on the side (especially if it's gay), they lose their fucking minds. People deciding freely what to do on their own dime, on their own time, with their own bodies and their own lives... that's the real evil, to them. It's no wonder- their whole religion is founded on a case of supernatural rape. It's all "obey god!" and "fear god!" and coercion with promises of eternal torture (when they're not allowed to do the real thing, that is).
It's always, always been about consent- the RCC 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 consent.
Fear God. That is probably the most fucked up thing about Christian theology. A supposedly "loving" Father wants his children to fear him. That isn't love. A loving father would be horrified to learn his children feared him.
I've been thinking about the Inquisition and the Crusades lately, wondering why we still use those terms. Why aren't the Crusades simply called mass murder campaigns? Even calling them wars of aggression seems too polite. As for the Inquisitors, they were serial killers, nothing more. Committing atrocities with the approval of a "divinely appointed" old sodomite is still committing atrocities, and it's high time we start labeling it honestly.
Fun fact. Research has shown that areas of Spain that was subject to the Inquisition are these days more economically backward than those who weren't. I quite often use this when people ask me why black people can't get over slavery – it's been 150 years right?
If they're tracking all of the gay priests in the country, they must have a Cray supercomputer with absolutely nothing else taking up any of its memory. An old friend of mine worked as a church organist/choir director for a time (between real jobs) and at one point he was pressured to attend some priest/bishop confab. He said he saw more hookups and gay "parties" there than he'd ever seen at any gay bathhouse.
Cray supercomputer? You're dating yourself. In Crichton's novel 𝘑𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘗𝘢𝘳𝘬 (IIRC), it was stated that they needed a Cray to run the park because the program contained 500,000 lines of code. Windows XP had ≈ 45 million lines of code.
"President Xiomara Castro of Honduras signed an executive order on Wednesday that lifted a longtime ban on emergency contraceptive pills, delivering on a campaign promise for a policy change that was sought by feminist groups for years."
Some good news for a change. And the Catholic Church be damned.
The Catholic church's crowing will be deafening the next time Honduras is hit with an earthquake or volcanic eruption. "See? We warned you! Now come to Mass and give us your money."
The Catholic Church has singlehandedly fomented mass poverty, deforestation, and over-population throughout Central and South America. The best executive order would be to ban Catholicism from each and every country.
It varies depending on jurisdiction, but it's not uncommon for someone who causes the death of a pregnant person and the fetus(es) to be charged with multiple counts.
"Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder and former state Republican Party Chair Matt Borges were convicted Thursday in a $60 million bribery scheme that federal prosecutors have called the largest corruption case in state history."
Somebody on another site claimed that Ohio Republicans were the most – evil. Not that I'd know from so far away, but they apparently used to live there.
The Catholic church epitomizes the sheer idiocy of the Christian religion, with its magical worshipping of a human miraculously born from a virgin, to its worldwide acceptance and institutionalization with the Pope as its leader. Just think, our "good Catholic" president believes all this nonsense. We are fucked.
It begins with the Catholic Church's fundamentally irrational view of human sexuality. I don't care if priests are gay. I always assumed most of them were, and most of them don't hurt anyone. This effort is more about the sexual hypocrisy of the church than anything remotely moral.
The Catholic Church has far too many skeletons in its wide open walk-in closet to ever be considered remotely moral. Not just centuries of molesting children all around the world, but residential schools, crusades, financial graft, witch hunts, and numerous other morally corrupt policies and actions throughout its long history. It has rarely been on the right side of history or any moral question. This is just another data point in the study of the immorality of Catholicism.
I walked away from the church over half a century ago, and never regretted it. What little faith I had left was dangling by a thread when I listened to an idiot priest in Vietnam give us a kill a commie for Christ pep talk. He thought we had been chosen to defend the church from the godless communists. All we wanted to do was survive and go home.
I left about 6th grade of kkkatlik gulag. It was when I realized being stuck on Chuck instead of Pamela made me a hated pariah.
What this article tells me, beyond anything else, is the utterly distorted priorities the Catholic Church has set regarding just WHAT sins they want to investigate and how. It's eminently clear that they are apparently far more interested in going after gay priests, who are likely doing little to no harm, than they are in the pedophiles in their numbers. The intolerable damage those predators have done to children worldwide has been documented more ways than I could count, yet it would seem as though that warrants less of their attention than a priest who desires some intimate company.
Vatican City desperately needs to pull their individual and collective heads out of their asses and recognize that their skewed view of what needs to be corrected in their ranks requires some serious rethinking.
The first priority of any corporation is protecting itself and its income.
Interesting, considering that the RCC has had several dioceses sued virtually out of existence by victims of priest-child sexual abuse. I will continue to assert that the REAL shame is that the price has yet to be extracted of the actual perpetrators, in terms of jail time and personal financial restitution, with VERY rare exceptions. If Vatican City has come to the rescue of any of them, it's news to me.
And until the penalties for the Church's sexual predation of children become as personal as they have been financial, the abuse will continue.
For Jesus, Inc.'s Catholic subsidiary, sexual predation is simply a cost of doing business.
Thing is, they haven't actually been sued out of existence. They've been sued to the point where they've had to declare bankruptcy. That doesn't mean they no longer exist; it just means they're off the hook for paying their creditors and VICTIMS. And that's hardly anything to feel good about.
Anybody ever wonder why the Jihadist Muslims have never attacked Vatican City? It's because they know this is what makes "the enemy" the enemy. And with no enemy, Islam has nothing.
“whose trustees are philanthropists Mark Bauman, John Martin and Tim Reichert,”
“Philanthropist: a person who seeks to promote the welfare of others, especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.”
If they are donating to causes whose purpose is to unwillingly out and harass LGBT people, they are not philanthropists. Philanthropy requires you do good things, promote the welfare of others, not harass and torture people because they don’t fit in your narrow world view.
Don’t lie to pretend you’re trying to protect children when all you’re looking for is adult consensual behaviors.
Of the 2 great evil, corrupt, greedy, misogynistic, authoritarian, dehumanizing organizations that have spread their tentacles from Italy over the rest of civilization, why does only the less pernicious one, the Mafia, have the bad reputation?
Sounds like Oscar Wilde. Or Mark Twain. 😁
It's never been the sex that the RCC had a problem with. It's the consent. They'll happily mount a centuries-long global campaign to cover for the rapists in their midst, but if they discover one among them has been getting a little mutually-desired action on the side (especially if it's gay), they lose their fucking minds. People deciding freely what to do on their own dime, on their own time, with their own bodies and their own lives... that's the real evil, to them. It's no wonder- their whole religion is founded on a case of supernatural rape. It's all "obey god!" and "fear god!" and coercion with promises of eternal torture (when they're not allowed to do the real thing, that is).
It's always, always been about consent- the RCC 𝘩𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴 consent.
Fear God. That is probably the most fucked up thing about Christian theology. A supposedly "loving" Father wants his children to fear him. That isn't love. A loving father would be horrified to learn his children feared him.
... 𝐼𝑡 [𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛] 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 '𝐵𝑖𝑔 𝐵𝑟𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟,' 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑎 𝑡𝑜𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑤𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠, 𝑤𝑒 𝑚𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑎𝑓𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑑, 𝒘𝒆 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒔𝒐 𝒃𝒆 𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒄𝒆𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒍𝒐𝒗𝒆 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒐𝒏𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐𝒎 𝒘𝒆 𝒇𝒆𝒂𝒓 – 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑠𝑎𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑠𝑚, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑏𝑗𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟-𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠ℎ𝑖𝑝 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ 𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑖𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑡 𝑜𝑛.
-- Christopher Hitchens
Spying is a catholic tradition, the inquisition never stopped.
Nobody expects it.
I've been thinking about the Inquisition and the Crusades lately, wondering why we still use those terms. Why aren't the Crusades simply called mass murder campaigns? Even calling them wars of aggression seems too polite. As for the Inquisitors, they were serial killers, nothing more. Committing atrocities with the approval of a "divinely appointed" old sodomite is still committing atrocities, and it's high time we start labeling it honestly.
Fun fact. Research has shown that areas of Spain that was subject to the Inquisition are these days more economically backward than those who weren't. I quite often use this when people ask me why black people can't get over slavery – it's been 150 years right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnF1OtP2Svk
That reminds me, I need to watch History of the World, Part II.
I’m watching it and it does not disappoint. And, everybody is in it.
I just noticed on Hulu earlier this week. I need to start watching it. Maybe this weekend before I go see Quantumania.
If they're tracking all of the gay priests in the country, they must have a Cray supercomputer with absolutely nothing else taking up any of its memory. An old friend of mine worked as a church organist/choir director for a time (between real jobs) and at one point he was pressured to attend some priest/bishop confab. He said he saw more hookups and gay "parties" there than he'd ever seen at any gay bathhouse.
The memory is certainly devoid of priests who engage in crimes against children.
Just a few (tens of thousands of) bad apples, that's all.
It’s the priests that don’t molest children that seem to be the bad apples to the RCC.
RCC speaks of a few bad apples when the whole orchard is thoroughly rotten.
Root rot. It runs really deep.
Especially over 2000 years.
Cray supercomputer? You're dating yourself. In Crichton's novel 𝘑𝘶𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘗𝘢𝘳𝘬 (IIRC), it was stated that they needed a Cray to run the park because the program contained 500,000 lines of code. Windows XP had ≈ 45 million lines of code.
"President Xiomara Castro of Honduras signed an executive order on Wednesday that lifted a longtime ban on emergency contraceptive pills, delivering on a campaign promise for a policy change that was sought by feminist groups for years."
Some good news for a change. And the Catholic Church be damned.
The Catholic church's crowing will be deafening the next time Honduras is hit with an earthquake or volcanic eruption. "See? We warned you! Now come to Mass and give us your money."
Given God's notoriously terrible aim, the disaster will probably hit somewhere around the Azores.
He stole lightning from Zeus but doesn't have a clue on how to wield it.
Give it to Thor.
Or Florida.
We live in hope right? 😁
Hope Floridians are gearing up to commute by scuba diving, thanks to climate change.
A tornado destroyed a village in France, I saw that in the news on DM's TV yesterday.
Well – there you go.😁
https://youtu.be/8tbCP7H_kZ0
*Looks for her lost brain cells*
The Catholic Church has singlehandedly fomented mass poverty, deforestation, and over-population throughout Central and South America. The best executive order would be to ban Catholicism from each and every country.
OT
Where was jesusgod...
"7 dead, including unborn child, in shooting at Jehovah's Witness hall in Germany: Police"
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/multiple-people-shot-church-germany-220700021.html
Busy giving some parasitic disease to kids in southeast Asia, I think. Would have to check the schedule.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8HT6Ux8FM
*𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘵- ...and since we're talking about Catholics, might as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjJ_b8isMzc
https://youtu.be/_UtlUTUcLX0?t=106
If only the fetus had been armed.
Apparently the police were told that his mind was crumbling but didn't bother taking his gun.
I found it interesting that other articles on this story listed only 6 people being shot. They didn't consider the fetus an "unborn child."
It varies depending on jurisdiction, but it's not uncommon for someone who causes the death of a pregnant person and the fetus(es) to be charged with multiple counts.
"The group spent over $4,000,000"
That's a lot of loaves and fishes.
Can't they just start with a crouton and an anchovy and build from there?
Pretty soon they could render a Caesar
Plenty of Roman lettuce about, no doubt.
(Missing an "i" and an "e", you say? Probably a translation error....)
"People called 'Romaine' they go the house?"
Lots of word salad in this thread.🍽
Salad puns – sorry guys, time they were tossed.
Oh, come on. Just olive and let olive.
Statler and Waldorf would heckle us.
Well, at least they were funnier than our resident misanthropic contrarian.
The second guy has his own salad. (The first guy is probably a ranch fan 🙄)
Most priests are loafers, and everything they say is fishy.
Petty cash to them.
Or 1⅓ tuna.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/05/682526465/threatened-bluefin-tuna-sells-for-5-000-per-pound-in-tokyo-market
(For that price, I think they'll throw in a few baguettes.)
Good baguettes can be expensive.
Wait, you mean those aren't just little bags?
Like they would actually use good bread.
I was told it was Austria for pastries, Germany for bread, France for.................... snails? 😇
France is for Mexican cuisine Ignoraminus 😝
😁😁😁😁 = LOL
France for cheese. 🧀
My favorite cheeses were feta and pecorino.
Who said anything about "good"? You want "good", that's gonna cost ya...them things don't grow on trees, ya know.
And yet they're fine with pedophiles.
"We should never accept being tolerated – we should only tolerate being accepted for who and what we are" Georgina Beyer 1957 – 2023.
"Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder and former state Republican Party Chair Matt Borges were convicted Thursday in a $60 million bribery scheme that federal prosecutors have called the largest corruption case in state history."
Sounds like it should be cause for celebration?
The GOP. The Party of Law and Order.
They should have dropped that descriptor long ago. It's a complete joke.
Dick Wolf should sue.
Somebody on another site claimed that Ohio Republicans were the most – evil. Not that I'd know from so far away, but they apparently used to live there.
They may be right but there is so much rampant evil of so many different stripes in the GQP now that I would take that claim with a grain of salt.
CLCR: "Kids? Who cares about them or their well-being? We track the real perverts!"
Nice to know Catholics have their priorities in order. :S
There's a zero percent chance these fucks aren't using this to track their regular churchgoers as well.
The Catholic church epitomizes the sheer idiocy of the Christian religion, with its magical worshipping of a human miraculously born from a virgin, to its worldwide acceptance and institutionalization with the Pope as its leader. Just think, our "good Catholic" president believes all this nonsense. We are fucked.