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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Do you know what they call homeopathic medicine that actually WORKS?

𝗠𝗘𝗗𝗜𝗖𝗜𝗡𝗘.

Why this crap is being tolerated within the medical community is beyond me. Indeed, why aren't there double-blind studies to test things like St. John's Wort or echinacea for efficacy against depression or the common cold? Probably because if they did, the proverbial cat would be out of the bag. The homeopathy industry (and it IS an industry, have no doubt) can't have that.

And they resist every effort to actually demonstrate their claims. 😝

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Stephen Brady's avatar

You can say that for the whole supplement industry. They spent a whole lot of money getting Congress to etch into law that they don't have to prove their claims.

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nmgirl's avatar

Years ago, someone said that Americans have the most expensive p!ss in the world.

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Christina Schmidt's avatar

And the problems are, number 1, people take those herbals without realizing they aren't controlled and without knowing side effectts and they especially don't realize about drug interactions, especially with St. John's wort. Or essential oils.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Pre-CISE-ly!

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Fisher's avatar

studies have been done on homeopathy. it doesn't work. studies were done on chelation too. it doesn't work, at least not for anything other than heavy metals. guafenisin, used to treat fibromyalgia for years, also doesn't work. then again, we still have ssri's treating serotonin levels, a theory abandoned decades ago...well they must work for some other reason, we are told....i'm not against psychiatric meds....take a klonopin, and in ten minutes you will know it....it doesn't take a 'month ' to kick in....imagine a blood pressure medicine that took a month to work...it would never be approved.

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Dianne Marie Leonard's avatar

My cousins (in France) use homeopathic remedies. I remember calling one of them on the bullshit (she was a pharmaceutical researcher at a university before she retired) and was met with, "they work! My mother and my sisters all use them too!" Then she had to get a hip replacement. Which she got done at a real hospital. By real doctors. I don't think the homeopathic shit hit the disposal bin after that, but it should have.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

“future pharmacists to a category of products that is growing in popularity.”

At one time, mercury was used as a remedy for prolonging life. In 19th century, some mineral waters were touted for their arsenic level. Pharmacy schools should trach that too.

Boiron

This shit is sold here, their ads and commercials can be seen about everywhere 🙄

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

A century ago, heroin was also considered a pharmaceutical, as I recall. Wonder how THAT worked out in the long haul!

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Christina Schmidt's avatar

Coca cola got it's name from it's original ingredient, cocaine. I'm sure that woke people that coffee!

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poloniousmonk's avatar

I've made original formula coke. It's pretty fun.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

It was supposed to be better for you than morphine and preventing addiction

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, BER-ROTHER! 🤦‍♂️

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Matri's avatar

In the OG Sherlock Holmes stories, Holmes does the occasional cocaine shot into his veins.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Which, I suspect, was the basis for the movie, "The Seven-Percent Solution."

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Kay-El's avatar
3hEdited

Yep. It was a novel too

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Mercury was really good for curing syphilis. Take enough of it, and you didn’t have to worry about it anymore.

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Christina Schmidt's avatar

Mercury was the only treatment for, I think polio. And if it it came back, it would be the same.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Syphilis.

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NOGODZ20's avatar
7hEdited

University of the Pacific. Stockton, CA. A private Methodist-affiliated university. Figures.

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nmgirl's avatar

United Methodist or Bigot Methodist?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Bullshit Regular or Bullshit Extra Strength? ;)

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Janet Amaral's avatar

Honestly, I am surprised by this story. Once upon a time UOP was considered a very good pharmacy school. Heck, I know people who went there. How tragic the mighty dollar once again triumphs in our culture.

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larry parker's avatar

Water downed education.

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regmeyer's avatar

As the old Olympia slogan, It's the Water.

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RegularJoe's avatar

Or Hamm's, 𝑭𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑳𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒌𝒚-𝑩𝒍𝒖𝒆 𝑾𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒓.

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oraxx's avatar

Keeping with the homeopathy mind-set, two grains of black powder are equal to a thousand pound bomb. There is no idea so stupid there will not be people who believe it, and there is no leader so incompetent there will not be people who willingly follow. Ignore religion at your leisure. Ignore science at your peril.

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Maltnothops's avatar

The Mitchell and Webb homeopathic sketch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

The only thing this homeopathy class does is dilute knowledge.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Praise science, technology an modern medicine that the VA neither provides nor covers homeopathics treatments/remedies as part of the standard medical benefits package for veterans.

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XJC's avatar

Up until the 1990s, however, all VA hospitals unabashedly sold cigarettes in the discounted canteen,. It was the veterans who protested their removal.

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Die Anyway's avatar

Look up how many people die in fires because they are smoking while on oxygen.

"Tell St. Peter at the golden gate

that you hate to make him wait

but you just have to have that one last cigarette."

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jmax's avatar

We used to steal the cigarettes out of the Army-issued C-ration boxes my father would bring home.

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Kukaan Ei Missään's avatar

I have little time for the UK House of Lords, but several years ago they did a research paper on homeopathy. They interviewed somebody from the Homeopathy Research Institute (shades of the "Discovery Institute"), who was asked how could they tell the difference between the different "remedies". The response was "Only by the packaging".

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XJC's avatar

'What would parliament be without a douchebag?''

https://youtu.be/C6XF4RxU7xQ?si=jPxYnJzlbiB1G6Ht

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Isn't your king a promoter of homeopathy ?

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David V. Miller's avatar

Coming soon:

Pharmaceutical courses in Demon Exorcism, Astrological Pharmaceuticals, Spiritual Healing, Pharmacy Prayers Fee Schedules, etc.

When Religiou$ Fanatics control things, lunacy ensues.

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regmeyer's avatar

All to be future courses at U of Oklahoma.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

I am not awake yet. This is really not fair. And I have to deal with Social Security, which for some reason decided that I do not exist. And it’s the day before Christmas. And they tell you that you can call at eight in the morning but they’re not open till nine.

There is only one gawd, and that bitch’s name is Bureaucracy. With Bureaucracy, all things are possible, but only according to chapter 3, subparagraph one, between 7:59 and 8:01 am on alternate Tuesdays. But which Tuesday are you on, this one or the alternate one? To find the answer to that, call the number you just called. But, for better service, go online and chat with Dexter, your AI serial killer. Erm, assistant.

Anyway, there was a time when homeopathy was the dominant form of medicine in this country, according to something I read years ago. That changed when healthcare decided that actual science ought to be in charge, around two turns of the century ago. I even tried it myself to deal with something that wasn’t going away by traditional SCIENTIFIC methods. But it failed. I was willing to give it a try, even though it made absolutely no sense to me.

But then, we have this: “…said Marry Ann Danial ’26, a PharmD student who took the course last year. “It pushed me to look beyond traditional treatment options and really think about how we, as pharmacists, approach patient care holistically.’ I guess DANIAL really isn’t just a river in Egypt. This has nothing to do with approaching patient care holistically. In fact, the job of most pharmacist is to do what the doctor tells them to do. they’re not actually caring for patients, they are putting pills in bottles and occasionally offering medical advice about the pills that they’re putting into bottles.

Homeopathy works in a vague general sort of way in exactly the same way that vaccines work—apart from actually working. They stimulate a response, at least in homeopathic theory. But that response doesn’t necessarily pan out in reality. That needs to be demonstrated first. And even if they do, a microscopic amount of something may not be enough to actually do any good. I can take some Willowbark derivative in sufficient quantities, and get pain relief from it. 325 mg of aspirin is a good start. But 1 mg of aspirin will do absolutely nothing.

So it appears that one more time, with this school of homeopathy, what we are getting is wishful and magical thinking substituting for reality. It’s the same mentality that says ivermectin, aquarium cleaner or vitamin supplements will work against Covid. Or that just a little bit of God will insulate you from the imachinations* of the devil.

Unless it doesn’t.

* that’s a little joke.

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larry parker's avatar

Make sure your coffee is full strength.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Thanks you. It is beginning to kick in.

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Boreal's avatar

At one of my childhood friend's xmas party last night, I complained about the homeopathic martini he made me-not enough vodka. Lol.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

This dreck persists because certain amoral people make money off of it and our population is mostly made up of people mostly illiterate in basic science. Also, the powers that be don't want them to become literate or to have any training in critical thinking.

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Kathleen's avatar

I feel like this should be illegal. Shit, every damn time I have to take an annual training in ethics at work (I’m a hospital RN), there’s a section about kickbacks and taking dirty money to influence health decisions, and how we nurses have to report it when we see our coworkers doing it. How can it be illegal at work but not at the institutions that TRAIN those I work with????

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Where’s the class on blood letting and leeches?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Actually, leeches are still used in places to encourage capillary restoration. Per Google:

𝑙𝑒𝑒𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑚𝑜𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑒, 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑟𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑐 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑟𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 (𝑏𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔) 𝑖𝑛 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑 𝑑𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑘𝑖𝑛 𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑓𝑡𝑠, ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑎𝑙𝑣𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑏𝑦 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑖𝑟𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑙𝑜𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑜𝑎𝑔𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑟𝑢𝑑𝑖𝑛 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑠𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑎. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝐷𝐴 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑙𝑒𝑒𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑐 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑠, 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑟𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑖𝑟𝑐𝑢𝑚𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑑𝑠 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑡.

Blood letting? Not so much! 😁

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poloniousmonk's avatar

Yeah, leeches are still legit.

None of the rest of this garbage is.

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Die Anyway's avatar

Totally OT: I used to live on a street named Polonious Parkway.

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dammit barry's avatar

Mosquites do also. This injection of anti-clotting chemicls allows the spread of malaria and other diseases.

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dammit barry's avatar

Maggots too? Actually they are used in mediciine to remove dead tissue in some cases. These are maggot grown specially for this. They do a far betrter job in some wounds because they et only dead flehs, leaving healthy tissue clean.

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Boreal's avatar
5hEdited

I wish we could dilute the quackery that is homeopathy.

https://ibb.co/cKzQC36m

https://ibb.co/WXL8mTg

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Matthew's avatar

And entire course on the benefits of drinking dihydrogen monoxide? How avant-garde. Tres chic!

Perhaps they should view the MSDS for this chemical compound first.

MSDS: Dihydrogen Monoxide

Dihydrogen monoxide (also known as hydric acid) is responsible for injury, death, and property damage all over the world. Visit the Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division online at www.dhmo.org, or send email to info@dhmo.org for more information.

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MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET FOR DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE

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PRODUCT NAME: DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE

FORMULA WT: 18.00

CAS NO.: 07732-18-5

NIOSH/RTECS NO.: ZC0110000

COMMON SYNONYMS: DIHYDROGEN OXIDE, HYDRIC ACID

PRODUCT CODES: 4218,4219

EFFECTIVE: 05/30/86

REVISION #01

LABORATORY PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT

SAFETY GLASSES; LAB COAT

PRECAUTIONARY LABEL STATEMENTS

STORAGE: KEEP IN TIGHTLY CLOSED CONTAINER.

BOILING POINT: 100 C ( 212 F) VAPOR PRESSURE(MM HG): 17.5

MELTING POINT: 0 C ( 32 F) VAPOR DENSITY(AIR=1): N/A

SPECIFIC GRAVITY: 1.00 EVAPORATION RATE: N/A

SOLUBILITY(H2O): COMPLETE (IN ALL PROPORTIONS) % VOLATILES BY VOLUME: 100

APPEARANCE & ODOR: ODORLESS, CLEAR COLORLESS LIQUID.

TOXICITY: LD50 (IPR-MOUSE)(G/KG) - 190

LD50 (IV-MOUSE) (MG/KG) - 25

DISPOSAL PROCEDURE

DISPOSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL

ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS.

SAF-T-DATA(TM) STORAGE COLOR CODE: ORANGE (GENERAL STORAGE)

SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS

KEEP CONTAINER TIGHTLY CLOSED. SUITABLE FOR ANY GENERAL CHEMICAL STORAGE

AREA. DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE IS CONSIDERED A NON-REGULATED PRODUCT, BUT

REACTS VIGOROUSLY WITH SOME MATERIALS. THESE INCLUDE SODIUM, POTASSIUM

AND OTHER ALKALI METALS; ELEMENTAL FLUORINE; AND STRONG DEHYDRATING AGENTS

SUCH AS SULFURIC ACID. IT FORMS EXPLOSIVE GASES WITH CALCIUM CARBIDE.

AVOID CONTACT WITH ALL MATERIALS UNTIL INVESTIGATION SHOWS SUBSTANCE IS

COMPATIBLE. EXPANDS SIGNIFICANTLY UPON FREEZING. DO NOT STORE IN RIGID

CONTAINER AND PROTECT FROM FREEZING.

DOMESTIC (D.O.T.)

PROPER SHIPPING NAME CHEMICALS, N.O.S. (NON-REGULATED)

INTERNATIONAL (I.M.O.)

PROPER SHIPPING NAME CHEMICALS, N.O.S. (NON-REGULATED)

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

EEEEK! Shades of the Landover Baptist Church!

https://www.landoverbaptist.org/

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poloniousmonk's avatar

I haven't seen a reference to the Landover in twenty years. Respect.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

My pleasure!

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Boreal's avatar

I had forgotten about that site. TY.

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Matthew's avatar

Must have the same web designer. HAHA

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Technically, dihydrogren monoxide is H(2)O. Hydric acid is HOH.

World of difference.

Don’t argue with me. You’ll lose.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Is it a 5 minute argument or the half hour?

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Which pays more?

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Tinker's avatar

Of course homeopathy is gaining in popularity. We are in a time where a large portion of our population can't afford health care. In addition, argument from popularity is the only argument that persuades a huge portion of our population. Without it Christianity would die.

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poloniousmonk's avatar

I just wanted to say you are my person. You clearly think like me, and I respect that tremendously.

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