We have heroes like him today but they are being drowned out by all the noise. The internet has made it so that everyone can express their ideas to a wider audience. Television has expanded to a mind-numbing number of channels and programming. Tell me in 1982 about the internet or how many choices of programs I would have and I would think about how bright the future would be with the sharing of ideas.
Instead, we have the sharing of misinformation and the normalization of bigotry. People pushing for a better future are just a small portion of the overall noise.
All from the authoritarian playbook. 'My way is the only way'. If you don't keep the kids and the faithful busy praying all day, every day - they might to start to reflect how silly and preposterous it all is. Can't have that, can we?
Even worse. They indoctrinate and groom children into thinking that doing all of this and being a blind lemming of Lord Drumpf *makes* them free thinkers and us godless heathens are the sheep. With our autism causing vaccines and Tylenol.
Public schools are a sub-division of government, and Mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been. Never the less, America’s evangelicals keep insisting they know how to do theocracy right and should be allowed to do so. They should put down their Bibles and read some history. The Bible-belt South has some of the worst social metrics in this country, so it’s pretty hard to see what good their performative religiosity has done for them.
And the fake medical clinics, called crisis pregnancy centers, that have no medical professionals on staff and as such don't have to go by actual standards.
It is wonderful that the NYT honored Mr Jaffree. It is also great that they honored Ms McCollum after the nudge from FFRF. But, the fact that these deaths were noteworthy but not covered in the first place is a disgrace. What's happening in "our world" should just be considered part of what's happening in the world generally. It should not have taken a nudge from the FFRF.
One would think that the litigants in major Supreme Court cases like this would be followed by news outlets. I can understand Mr Jaffree being missed, it appears as though he went back into obscurity, hence the somewhat lat obit by FFRF. But Ms McCollum? Her case was one of the ones cited by the Christian Nazionalists when they complain (loudly) about how God was taken out of schools. One would think that the NatC ghouls would have been dancing on her grave.
It is long past time that "our world" is seen as just part of 𝘁𝗵𝗲 world.
Wow. What a great fighter Ishmael was for State / Church separation and what a loss that he is gone. I had never heard his story until now, and I feel enriched to know who he was and what he did.
Yup. Here's what that quote (Ezekiel 25:17) actually said...
"And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them."
That's it. Everything else in that Pulp Fiction quote is just that: fiction. And yet chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell, sounding every bit the Trump-loving MAGAt, said "Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted Ezekiel 5:17 is peddling fake news and ignorant of reality."
Uh no, Sammy boy. We've read your holy book and can see what that scripture said. Maybe YOU should read your own book sometimes because it is you who are ignorant of reality.
Fuck's sake; they think they can just keep trotting out the same meaningless cliches about "fake news" like that magically makes their absurd claims the least bit objectively true.
Since God is a much tougher sell to adults who can think for themselves, religion targets the most vulnerable: Children. In addition to being physically molested by xtian adults, kids also face mental molestation at school.
God in school? How many children prayed during school shootings? Where was God? All he had to do was jam the shooter's weapon to keep it from firing, but he couldn't even be bothered to do that. Instead, metal detectors and bulletproof backpacks have to do what the xtian deity failed to do.
What you have to understand is that prayers in public school is about conservatives trying to get everyone to be just like them. It's about religion only because conservatives are religious. Note that religious liberals don't have a problem with separation of church and state - in fact, they support it!
It got missed the other day, but Sid Krofft died. He and brother Marty (who died 3 years ago) gave us H.R. Pufnstuf and an array of hallucinatory live-action puppet shows as well as number of non-puppet series and movies.
Hee, hee. I just posted this on Christian Post along with a gift link to the NYT obit:
“Speaking of parental rights, this champion of them, who won a SCOTUS decision in the 1980s to protect his children from an abusive state government, should be remembered and honored by all who think parents matter more than school bureaucrats and politicians.”
I'm glad to hear of this man, and I would say we need more like him in the coming years to reverse the course of Christian dominionism. It may take a change on the Supreme Court before it stops privileging the already privileged Christians who keep trying to work Bible lessons into school curricula and take our tax money to fund tuition at religious schools.
Incidentally, one thing I can praise the Times for is their occasional discovery of "forgotten" people whose stories make for very interesting and timely reading.
The problem being atheists are a minority. They need to stand up and be public about it.
When that happens, you get Christian concern trolls on the left decrying "Reddit atheism" and Christians on the right threatening or outright killing you. (If the litigant dies during appeals, so do the appeals. Conservatives will kill to prevent their power from slipping.)
Note that Mr. Jaffree was not an atheist, but believed in God (via Islam). But, I understand the point that mandatory Christian prayer in public schools would be a problem for other religions including atheists.
How we could use Jaffree today. Christians continue to push for school prayer, violating Jesus' admonishment against praying in public.
Something tells me that it isn't about violating Matthew 6:5, but about power, control, and forced conformity.
Of course, it's about conformity. These Christians can't deal with non-conformity at all.
And if they were to try it with any of us, they would quickly wish they hadn't.
We have heroes like him today but they are being drowned out by all the noise. The internet has made it so that everyone can express their ideas to a wider audience. Television has expanded to a mind-numbing number of channels and programming. Tell me in 1982 about the internet or how many choices of programs I would have and I would think about how bright the future would be with the sharing of ideas.
Instead, we have the sharing of misinformation and the normalization of bigotry. People pushing for a better future are just a small portion of the overall noise.
As we all know on this forum, the whole point of formal prayer is "to be seen of men." Yeah, I've read the book.
performative piety.
It's all about trying to impose rote conformity. You can't let kids get the idea they can think for themselves.
All from the authoritarian playbook. 'My way is the only way'. If you don't keep the kids and the faithful busy praying all day, every day - they might to start to reflect how silly and preposterous it all is. Can't have that, can we?
edit: changed spell check 'his' to 'how'
Worse, they might start THINKING FOR THEMSELVES! EEEEK!
Even worse. They indoctrinate and groom children into thinking that doing all of this and being a blind lemming of Lord Drumpf *makes* them free thinkers and us godless heathens are the sheep. With our autism causing vaccines and Tylenol.
I sincerely hope that dear Donnie is in for the ride of his life, not very long from now. He deserves nothing less.
Posting himself as AI Jesus certainly hasn't gone over well at all, to say the least.
Public schools are a sub-division of government, and Mixing religion and government is the same terrible idea it has always been. Never the less, America’s evangelicals keep insisting they know how to do theocracy right and should be allowed to do so. They should put down their Bibles and read some history. The Bible-belt South has some of the worst social metrics in this country, so it’s pretty hard to see what good their performative religiosity has done for them.
The Red run areas have been and will continue to be the feudal 3rd world shitholes religious parasites depend on to exist.
By directing K-12 funds to R governors, no longer need to worry bc public funds will fund unaccredited religious schools!
And the fake medical clinics, called crisis pregnancy centers, that have no medical professionals on staff and as such don't have to go by actual standards.
𝐼𝑡’𝑠 𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑒𝑤𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑛’𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑤𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑙𝑑 𝑢𝑛𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑤𝑒 𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.
It is wonderful that the NYT honored Mr Jaffree. It is also great that they honored Ms McCollum after the nudge from FFRF. But, the fact that these deaths were noteworthy but not covered in the first place is a disgrace. What's happening in "our world" should just be considered part of what's happening in the world generally. It should not have taken a nudge from the FFRF.
One would think that the litigants in major Supreme Court cases like this would be followed by news outlets. I can understand Mr Jaffree being missed, it appears as though he went back into obscurity, hence the somewhat lat obit by FFRF. But Ms McCollum? Her case was one of the ones cited by the Christian Nazionalists when they complain (loudly) about how God was taken out of schools. One would think that the NatC ghouls would have been dancing on her grave.
It is long past time that "our world" is seen as just part of 𝘁𝗵𝗲 world.
Wow. What a great fighter Ishmael was for State / Church separation and what a loss that he is gone. I had never heard his story until now, and I feel enriched to know who he was and what he did.
Thank you for this post, Hemant!
Pete Hegseth still being stupid and offensive, quotes from a murderer in Pulp Fiction.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2026/04/16/pete-hegseth-quotes-violent-prayer-from-pulp-fiction-references-bible/
“Pete Hegseth is doing to Christianity what Al-Qaeda did to Islam,” Christopher Hale, editor of the popular Letters from Leo Catholic newsletter,
"Pete Hegseth is doing to Christianity what Al-Qaeda did to Islam"
It isn't a bug, it is a feature.
Lol
Xtian drunken wife abuser says what?
Quoting Pulp Fiction? Does he know that its writer/director (Tarantino) has identified himself as atheist?
Pete Hegseth is no Samuel Jackson.
Sam's a Christian but he doesn't let his beliefs get in the way of the work. Good on him.
Well he also doesn't know that "bible quote" was something he made up for the script, so...
Yup. Here's what that quote (Ezekiel 25:17) actually said...
"And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them."
That's it. Everything else in that Pulp Fiction quote is just that: fiction. And yet chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell, sounding every bit the Trump-loving MAGAt, said "Anyone saying the Secretary misquoted Ezekiel 5:17 is peddling fake news and ignorant of reality."
Uh no, Sammy boy. We've read your holy book and can see what that scripture said. Maybe YOU should read your own book sometimes because it is you who are ignorant of reality.
Fuck's sake; they think they can just keep trotting out the same meaningless cliches about "fake news" like that magically makes their absurd claims the least bit objectively true.
Well, their fans always fall for it!
Ah, thought-terminating clichés - keeping morons in line since the year dot.
You left out credibly accused rapist who paid off his victim.
Since God is a much tougher sell to adults who can think for themselves, religion targets the most vulnerable: Children. In addition to being physically molested by xtian adults, kids also face mental molestation at school.
God in school? How many children prayed during school shootings? Where was God? All he had to do was jam the shooter's weapon to keep it from firing, but he couldn't even be bothered to do that. Instead, metal detectors and bulletproof backpacks have to do what the xtian deity failed to do.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DNyR5X0XM1c/?igsh=ejdzZW1iMmhxZXVt
What you have to understand is that prayers in public school is about conservatives trying to get everyone to be just like them. It's about religion only because conservatives are religious. Note that religious liberals don't have a problem with separation of church and state - in fact, they support it!
Nevertheless, it's good to see this man honored.
Oh, to live in those heady days when SCROTUS 𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘯'𝘵 stuffed with morons and shills...
Way OT
It got missed the other day, but Sid Krofft died. He and brother Marty (who died 3 years ago) gave us H.R. Pufnstuf and an array of hallucinatory live-action puppet shows as well as number of non-puppet series and movies.
🎶 H.R. Pufnstuff, Who's your friend when things get rough? H.R. Pufnstuff Can't do a little cause he can't do enough.
Fun stuff from back in the day.
https://youtu.be/bQymJaUA4Fo?list=RDbQymJaUA4Fo
Big Daddy speaking like Archie Bunker.
Xtian hypocrites falsely accuse others of grooming children while actively continuing their push to groom children. They must be fought at all times.
Bingo, can't have them realizing that the religious fundy stuff is crazy.
Jaffree presented his case to a Supreme Court which actually gave a shit about the First Amendment. Good luck with that today!
Hee, hee. I just posted this on Christian Post along with a gift link to the NYT obit:
“Speaking of parental rights, this champion of them, who won a SCOTUS decision in the 1980s to protect his children from an abusive state government, should be remembered and honored by all who think parents matter more than school bureaucrats and politicians.”
Subtle!
Probably too subtle for those goobers.
OT - Do not attempt to adjust your monitor
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap260416.html
I'm glad to hear of this man, and I would say we need more like him in the coming years to reverse the course of Christian dominionism. It may take a change on the Supreme Court before it stops privileging the already privileged Christians who keep trying to work Bible lessons into school curricula and take our tax money to fund tuition at religious schools.
Incidentally, one thing I can praise the Times for is their occasional discovery of "forgotten" people whose stories make for very interesting and timely reading.
The problem being atheists are a minority. They need to stand up and be public about it.
When that happens, you get Christian concern trolls on the left decrying "Reddit atheism" and Christians on the right threatening or outright killing you. (If the litigant dies during appeals, so do the appeals. Conservatives will kill to prevent their power from slipping.)
Now, Ishmael has been removed from heaven and sent to Hell. Executive Order. The one pardoning all crimes against the Proud Boys for Jan 6.
Note that Mr. Jaffree was not an atheist, but believed in God (via Islam). But, I understand the point that mandatory Christian prayer in public schools would be a problem for other religions including atheists.