The idea a particular brand of conservative Christianity could be imposed on a country as large and diverse and the United States with a happy ending, is about as stupidly dangerous as thinking gets. The founders very wisely did not give religion any role to play in our secular government. None the less, people keep trying to change that. Of all the forms of government people have dreamed up, few are worse than theocracy. In any event, if the preachers ever attained the secular power they seem to be dreaming of, they would be killing one another in the space of a week over doctrinal errors. I will never understand why mere freedom of religion isn't enough for some people, or why they're driven to force their religion on others.
I was able to see the advanced screening of this at the Capitol on January 11. Rob Reiner and Dan Partland were there…watching with us and watching and listening to our reactions. They took our questions at the end.
It was quite surreal, watching it in the Capitol merely five days after the anniversary of January 6th, standing in very building which had been decimated by insurrectionists and speaking to with like-minded people and friends like Rob Boston, Allison Gill, Rachel Laser, and so many others. Representative Jared Hoffman of the Freethought Caucus had gotten us the Capitol to watch the screening in. Senator Jamie Raskin stopped in to say hi.
Rob Reiner had a lot to say about learning deeply of Christian nationalism, making this film about how dangerous the threat is about how much he learned from the people who spoke in the film. And how much he wants to get the message out there about how important it is to take this threat seriously. And he truly believes that if they win, it’s the end of democracy as we know it.
Years ago, buying into the lies and falsehoods as told by mom's local Christian Radio station and being completely unaware of the truth behind all this nationalism crap and the reality that goes along with it, I used to get down on my knees on the bedroom floor and pray to God for this nation to be theocratic one so that life will be so much better and we won't get to see and hear bad things ever again like swear words and porn and Hollywood would be brought back to God just like the "good old days."
Today, looking back, after spending years of learning the truth about what will really happen to this nation if it becomes theocratic, I am like, "What was I thinking, doing and praying for back then?"
I had a person respond to my ad posting on another website to share my home with someone. Not sure I will do it-probably won't-but I got a reply from a woman who expressed herself well and was very interested. However, her email tag was "jesusmyking". Any bets on whether I have, or will, respond to her?
I don't see the problem with Christian Nationalism. As Christian how could having me in charge everything be anything but positive for me? And If I am made in the image of God and everyone else is also made in the image of God, then anything that is good for me, must be good for everyone. And I know that God agrees with me, because I am created in God's image and if God didn't agree with me then why would I believe what I believe?
Only because they ARE connected, at least peripherally if not more directly. It is the exact, same attitude which wants to superimpose Christianity on our secular government that motivates those who are Christian Nationalists to take more extreme actions. What it boils down to is the old story of the Arab and the Camel. Our government, thinking that religion is a benign influence on our culture, has already allowed the head and at least part of the neck into the tent, either not realizing the mistake they've made or pretending not to know.
Over 200 years ago, Thomas Jefferson asserted that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment created "a wall of separation between Church and State." THAT is how it should be, and now, because too many people have wanted to treat religion is harmless, we have a considerable task in returning our government to a purely secular condition.
Of course I’ll stream God & Country. If I can watch horror film Jesus Camp, it’s only fair that I see views from the other side. There’s a “both sides” joke here somewhere.
"it’s also the pastors who spread misinformation to their congregations week after week without the amplification of social media. The same people who want to harm women, gay people, trans people and refugees are the same people who deny science and spread lies in the form of Purity Culture. They attend the same churches. They give money to spread these beliefs in foreign lands. They refuse to criticize their pastors for perpetuating lies. They refuse to put pressure on those pastors to use their platforms to condemn the right-wing members of their congregations."
Putting it in another way, it doesn't really matter whether it's the orcs of Saruman or the orcs of Sauron that you're having a battle with. They are still orcs, Saruman remains Saruman, Sauron remains Sauron.
The good ones were already raptured 2000 years ago. "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." We're stuck with the leftovers and they don't even know it because of terrible reading skills.
The idea a particular brand of conservative Christianity could be imposed on a country as large and diverse and the United States with a happy ending, is about as stupidly dangerous as thinking gets. The founders very wisely did not give religion any role to play in our secular government. None the less, people keep trying to change that. Of all the forms of government people have dreamed up, few are worse than theocracy. In any event, if the preachers ever attained the secular power they seem to be dreaming of, they would be killing one another in the space of a week over doctrinal errors. I will never understand why mere freedom of religion isn't enough for some people, or why they're driven to force their religion on others.
I was able to see the advanced screening of this at the Capitol on January 11. Rob Reiner and Dan Partland were there…watching with us and watching and listening to our reactions. They took our questions at the end.
It was quite surreal, watching it in the Capitol merely five days after the anniversary of January 6th, standing in very building which had been decimated by insurrectionists and speaking to with like-minded people and friends like Rob Boston, Allison Gill, Rachel Laser, and so many others. Representative Jared Hoffman of the Freethought Caucus had gotten us the Capitol to watch the screening in. Senator Jamie Raskin stopped in to say hi.
Rob Reiner had a lot to say about learning deeply of Christian nationalism, making this film about how dangerous the threat is about how much he learned from the people who spoke in the film. And how much he wants to get the message out there about how important it is to take this threat seriously. And he truly believes that if they win, it’s the end of democracy as we know it.
… I think he’s right.
I lie.
I know he’s right.
Years ago, buying into the lies and falsehoods as told by mom's local Christian Radio station and being completely unaware of the truth behind all this nationalism crap and the reality that goes along with it, I used to get down on my knees on the bedroom floor and pray to God for this nation to be theocratic one so that life will be so much better and we won't get to see and hear bad things ever again like swear words and porn and Hollywood would be brought back to God just like the "good old days."
Today, looking back, after spending years of learning the truth about what will really happen to this nation if it becomes theocratic, I am like, "What was I thinking, doing and praying for back then?"
Don't trust A N Y of them; they lie to themselves about Skydaddy, why would they tell the truth about faithfulness to the Constitution?
I had a person respond to my ad posting on another website to share my home with someone. Not sure I will do it-probably won't-but I got a reply from a woman who expressed herself well and was very interested. However, her email tag was "jesusmyking". Any bets on whether I have, or will, respond to her?
I don't see the problem with Christian Nationalism. As Christian how could having me in charge everything be anything but positive for me? And If I am made in the image of God and everyone else is also made in the image of God, then anything that is good for me, must be good for everyone. And I know that God agrees with me, because I am created in God's image and if God didn't agree with me then why would I believe what I believe?
𝐺𝑜𝑑 & 𝐶𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑦 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑣𝑖𝑒𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑙𝑜𝑔𝑎𝑛 “𝐼𝑛 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑊𝑒 𝑇𝑟𝑢𝑠𝑡” 𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦 𝑜𝑟 “𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝐺𝑜𝑑” 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑃𝑙𝑒𝑑𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒ℎ𝑜𝑤 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑛 𝐽𝑎𝑛𝑢𝑎𝑟𝑦 6𝑡ℎ.
Only because they ARE connected, at least peripherally if not more directly. It is the exact, same attitude which wants to superimpose Christianity on our secular government that motivates those who are Christian Nationalists to take more extreme actions. What it boils down to is the old story of the Arab and the Camel. Our government, thinking that religion is a benign influence on our culture, has already allowed the head and at least part of the neck into the tent, either not realizing the mistake they've made or pretending not to know.
Over 200 years ago, Thomas Jefferson asserted that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment created "a wall of separation between Church and State." THAT is how it should be, and now, because too many people have wanted to treat religion is harmless, we have a considerable task in returning our government to a purely secular condition.
In the trailer, the question is asked, "Is Christian Nationalism Christian?" and the answer given is "No, it isn't."
But, like, ISN'T it? It may not be the version of Christianity she prefers, but it is Christian, right?
The title God & Country itself is a dead giveaway. The Big Sky Faerie uber alles, while "Country" ranks (a distant) 2nd.
The Key Founders saw the dangers of mixing religion and governance centuries ago. NatCs are to be fought, everywhere and always.
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IVF.
God & Country didn't win an Oscar, which proves the whole thing is rigged. I know the best words, Person, woman, man, camera, TV.
My bride came across a meme recently about “evangenitals”. I tried googling it but all I found was a band by that name.
Of course I’ll stream God & Country. If I can watch horror film Jesus Camp, it’s only fair that I see views from the other side. There’s a “both sides” joke here somewhere.
"it’s also the pastors who spread misinformation to their congregations week after week without the amplification of social media. The same people who want to harm women, gay people, trans people and refugees are the same people who deny science and spread lies in the form of Purity Culture. They attend the same churches. They give money to spread these beliefs in foreign lands. They refuse to criticize their pastors for perpetuating lies. They refuse to put pressure on those pastors to use their platforms to condemn the right-wing members of their congregations."
Putting it in another way, it doesn't really matter whether it's the orcs of Saruman or the orcs of Sauron that you're having a battle with. They are still orcs, Saruman remains Saruman, Sauron remains Sauron.
"But there are multiple places in God & Country... where the storytelling conflates politically active evangelicalism with Christian nationalism.
Has a very 1945-ish "Hey! Not all German nationalists are Nazis!!!!" vibe to it.
The good ones were already raptured 2000 years ago. "After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." We're stuck with the leftovers and they don't even know it because of terrible reading skills.