James Uthmeier is leveraging taxpayer money to force his anti-vaccine beliefs on Catholic schools, which refuse to offer religious exemptions for required shots
So this AG has deemed himself qualified to practice medicine? I do not even begin to comprehend the anti-vaccination mentality. It has been demonstrated again and again there is no link between vaccines and autism. The reason there seems to be more autism today isn’t because of vaccines, it’s because our ability to diagnose the condition had improved dramatically.
The same faulty logic is applied to trans people It's not an ideological "woke-virus" explosion. It's the ready availability of quality treatment for an insufferable condition. Banning the treatment doesn't eliminate the condition. Of course, eugenics has always been in their wheelhouse. They will come after all neurodivergent folks next for not producing up to capitalistic standards.
Methinks they don't like us autistic people because we have a nasty habit of refusing to conform and telling it like it is. Yeah, well, they can suck it. We've had enough of being treated like shit and lobotomised and pumped full of drugs and thrown in lunatic asylums and abandoned to die in early childhood (or, these days, tortured with bleach).
Until I was about 16 there "was no autism". I didn't know what that was and nor did my parents. Instead, I was just "rude" and "weird" and in need of being screamed at and terrorised by teachers who made zero allowances. Then I got diagnosed, in my opinion far too late. But sure, it was totally the vaccinations I got as a child to ensure I wouldn't, y'know, DIE. But these people absolutely believe a dead child is preferable to an autistic one.
I asked Google the following question … “how many american pastors have been married multiple times ?”
The answer provided was as follows …
Approximately 10% to 12% of Protestant pastors in the United States have been divorced and remarried, which represents the primary group of clergy who have been married multiple times. While there is no exact, real-time database tracking the absolute headcount of every multi-married minister, major religious research organizations provide clear percentage breakdowns.
Statistical Breakdown of Pastoral Marriages
National data from organizations like the Barna Group and Lifeway Research clarify these marital trends:
- First Marriage: Roughly 80% of senior pastors are currently on their very first marriage.
- Divorced and Remarried: Roughly 12% of senior pastors have gone through a divorce and subsequently remarried.
- Ever Divorced: Around 10% of Protestant pastors have experienced divorce at some point in their lives, though this includes those who remained single after the split.
- Never Married: Only about 3% of American pastors have never been married.
-Extreme Outliers: On an individual level, historical anomalies exist. For example, an American Baptist minister named Glynn Wolfe holds the modern record for marrying 29 times over his lifespan.
First, how the fuck did we find ourselves on the same side as the RCC?
Second, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 is exactly what the separation of church and state is for. While the Catholic schools shouldn't be getting tax dollars, neither should the government be allowed to dictate policy.
The politicians you voted for have just told you that the sectarian vision for the United States does not include you. Enjoy the consequences of your own actions, fascist enablers.
So, they want religious schools to get taxpayer money and not follow public safety regulations. Am I getting this right? That the state’s attorney general is pushing for the schools to not follow the rules that come with taxpayer dollars. So, our government is telling us there is no rule of law, only the agenda of whoever is in power. Florida really is the dick of the United States.
To be honest, the infighting between these two religious groups is not that important. What it will do is make clear the corruption of the AG, the voucher program, and might even inform the electorate of the dangers of mixing church and state. But, only to those who look for it.
I think Die Anyway got it right: they demand private schools who get taxpayer money be legally exempted from regulations liberal and Democrats support, while insisting at the point of jail time that the schools follow regulations Republicans support.
And while yes Florida often deserves its reputation, in this case I imagine that GOP state legislators all over the US will impose the same hypocrisy on every school they can. The no-vaccine mandate is a bit unusual, but the political power concept of "voucher schools must follow our GOP rules...but cannot follow Dem rules" is, IMO, pretty ubiquitous.
Republicans have always been awful- at least during my lifetime- but if you had told me fifteen years ago that here, today, every single one of their policy goals would be aimed at making literally everything worse, I wouldn't have believed it. But here we are. They want our children to be ignorant, sick, or dead; they want to drive our economy over a cliff; they want bigotry to dominate reason and smother empathy; they want war; they want famine; they want the world to be on fire, and stay on fire... Republicans used to want, or so I thought, what they believed was best for the country, in their own wrong-headed way. I can't believe that anymore. Their individual voters might be fooled, but there is simply no way that the leaders of the GQP don't know better. They know exactly how destructive their policies are- they just don't care anymore, as long as they're the ones with all the power.
And because it bears endlessly repeating: Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines cause 𝘢𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴.
HEADLINE: "Florida Man Says Catholics Should Let Measles Spread!" At the risk of switching from Catholicism to Judaism, OY, VEY! That whole "cell lines from aborted fetuses" baloney was worn out back when John Paul II was their head honcho. Now this nutcase Uthmeier wants to insist that vaccinations, particularly for measles, NOT be mandatory for school attendance?
I'VE HAD MEASLES. It was over 60 years ago, but I remember it, and It ... Was ... MISERABLE. I was sick for nearly a week, off school, of course, and isolated from the rest of the family. The MMR vaccine wasn't even a twinkle in some virologist's eye, and if memory serves, a solo measles shot had barely been introduced in the early 1960s. Yet Uthmeier wants to put kids through this?
Honestly, I think the word: "atavistic" was invented for dips like him!
Yeah, I had measles too, as well as mumps, rubella, and chicken pox. Also long before a vaccine became available. They also want to bring back polio (and don't know what that was, the devastation it caused, the worldwide campaign to defeat it, the bravery of the people who got right up in the face of the disease and fought it. Nor do they remember the children's hospital wards full of iron lungs.) Fuck these idiots, fuck 'em sideways, and the scrawny horse they rode in on.
Somewhere, somehow, I just know there must be a medical supply executive licking his lips at the prospect of spinning up a new product line of iron lungs- all new for the digital age, computer controlled (and probably AI-enabled), on a subscription service model so you have to pay extra for the advanced features. They'll cost an arm, a leg, and a kidney, but what else are you gonna do, when your kid who was medically unable to get vaccinated catches polio from their antivaxxer-spawn classmates? Experience the wonders of capitalist healthcare- take out a second mortgage just so your child can keep breathing, and absolutely nothing more!
Hell is real. Conservatives have built it right here on Earth.
A while ago, I read that there are no companies (at least in the US) that currently make spare parts for iron lungs. The article interviewed polio survivors, many of them aging, who reported that they were reduced to scavenging parts from iron lungs owned by people who had died. Iron lungs were always expensive, as were any other pieces of medical equipment, so if polio comes back, your doomsday scenario doesn't sound all that implausible.
This is a good thing. Maybe some Catholics will wake up to the inevitability of the Christian Nationalist Party forcing their stunted beliefs on everyone. "Everyone" including any Christian groups that don't toe their party line. Catholics could look the other way when they were just picking on Muslims or Hindus, but now, as was the CNP plan all along, (See Project 2025 and 2026) they are going after folks they were temporarily allied with.
(Most members of) the Queer community figured this out long ago. It's easy for example, to get the LGBs to throw trans people under the bus because, in some minds that makes the rest of the Queer community safe. Nope. Only for a few months or a year, and then they come after you too. Look how quickly they are coming after gay marriage now; they barely took a breath.
I hope Christians of all stripes will hear the wake-up call and realize that they are next. The Christian Nationalist Party will only be satisfied when they have their Evangelical CNP version of Sharia law governing America in all respects. Florida and a bunch of other states will soon look just like Iraq or Afghanistan. You can see the resemblance forming already.
The surprising thing is that this is a surprise to anyone for any reason.
Dominionist ‘Christians’ are not just fundamentalists. They are DominionIst first and Christian second. This is what happens when you have religious megalomaniacs— people who over identify with God— also have political power. What they want above all else is power and money. And an affirmation that they just like God.
If the Catholics play along with this, they will simply be handing over whatever power/authority they have to the secular state, which isn’t secular at all, but sectarian. Jesus said that you cannot serve both God and mammon.
Or as they say in the south, “ya gots ta dance with them what brung ya.”
Oh well, I feel sorry for the kids, but my sympathy only goes that far
This is pure insanity. This country is experiencing the highest number of measles cases since 1991 and these anti-vax NUTBAGS just want to make everything worse. I hope they go to court over this.
Religious institutions are allowed to ignore or violate any rule or regulation put in place by Democrats, however, they must obey all rules and regulations put in place by Republicans.
Probably vaccines were required before he started school as they were nearly everywhere before vaccines became a political issue rather than public health. His parents were probably glad he could have those vaccinations rather than suffer the illnesses we had before the vaccines were available.
And here I didn't think they would start turning on each other until they had finished their planned extermination of those they have a shared hatred of.
While it would be folly to bank on the prospect, I don't think it entirely unlikely that this iteration of fascísm will be brought down not by political opposition, nor by force of arms... but rather by its own 𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 incompetence.
As the article says, there's a lot wrong with this situation! And yes, it feels weird to be on the side of the RCC bishops.
But taking a step back - why the actual F has vaccination become such a religious hot-button issue? What warped thinking is going on that this is a RELIGIOUS issue?
This is one question, which I cannot get my head around!
The Republican party has become utterly obsessed with the concept of trans. They can't deal with it, and they don't want to process it. They want it to go away, and if it won't go away (hint: IT WON'T!), they will try to legislate it away.
I've had the idea that it offends then so much because they see it as either degrading yourself (in their eyes) by becoming a 'lower' grade of human[M to F] or an unworthy human [F to M]claiming a status conception denied them. In either case they are offended that either exist and wouldn't hesitate to eradicate them. They just can't openly do it...yet.
So this AG has deemed himself qualified to practice medicine? I do not even begin to comprehend the anti-vaccination mentality. It has been demonstrated again and again there is no link between vaccines and autism. The reason there seems to be more autism today isn’t because of vaccines, it’s because our ability to diagnose the condition had improved dramatically.
Uthmeier isn't playing the autism card. He's playing the aborted fetus cell-line card.
Also the "do-as-I-say-'cuz-I'm-a-government-official" card. 😝
Because it's not about following science, it's about being a good cult member.
The same faulty logic is applied to trans people It's not an ideological "woke-virus" explosion. It's the ready availability of quality treatment for an insufferable condition. Banning the treatment doesn't eliminate the condition. Of course, eugenics has always been in their wheelhouse. They will come after all neurodivergent folks next for not producing up to capitalistic standards.
Methinks they don't like us autistic people because we have a nasty habit of refusing to conform and telling it like it is. Yeah, well, they can suck it. We've had enough of being treated like shit and lobotomised and pumped full of drugs and thrown in lunatic asylums and abandoned to die in early childhood (or, these days, tortured with bleach).
There's a link between vaccine skepticism and Trumpism--an infectious disease that's highly prevalent in middle America.
Until I was about 16 there "was no autism". I didn't know what that was and nor did my parents. Instead, I was just "rude" and "weird" and in need of being screamed at and terrorised by teachers who made zero allowances. Then I got diagnosed, in my opinion far too late. But sure, it was totally the vaccinations I got as a child to ensure I wouldn't, y'know, DIE. But these people absolutely believe a dead child is preferable to an autistic one.
He's claiming to be better at medicine than the AMA, and better at Catholicism than the Vatican.
"Think of the children!" cry the religionistas. This action kicks that very notion to the curb.
MAGA Über alles.
Ya, Ich nicht verstehen deinem UNTIDY STATES of AMERICA !
Dummkopf nummer ein !
Es ist aber Wahnsinn!
It’s almost as if hypocrisy was the brand.
Almost?
Republicans cuddle up to hypocrisy like it's their favorite mistress.
“ Republicans cuddle up to hypocrisy like it's their favorite mistress.”
That wins today’s internet!
Unfortunately the priests always are.
I asked Google the following question … “how many american pastors have been married multiple times ?”
The answer provided was as follows …
Approximately 10% to 12% of Protestant pastors in the United States have been divorced and remarried, which represents the primary group of clergy who have been married multiple times. While there is no exact, real-time database tracking the absolute headcount of every multi-married minister, major religious research organizations provide clear percentage breakdowns.
Statistical Breakdown of Pastoral Marriages
National data from organizations like the Barna Group and Lifeway Research clarify these marital trends:
- First Marriage: Roughly 80% of senior pastors are currently on their very first marriage.
- Divorced and Remarried: Roughly 12% of senior pastors have gone through a divorce and subsequently remarried.
- Ever Divorced: Around 10% of Protestant pastors have experienced divorce at some point in their lives, though this includes those who remained single after the split.
- Never Married: Only about 3% of American pastors have never been married.
-Extreme Outliers: On an individual level, historical anomalies exist. For example, an American Baptist minister named Glynn Wolfe holds the modern record for marrying 29 times over his lifespan.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑𝑛’𝑡 𝑔𝑖𝑣𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑐ℎ.
First, how the fuck did we find ourselves on the same side as the RCC?
Second, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 is exactly what the separation of church and state is for. While the Catholic schools shouldn't be getting tax dollars, neither should the government be allowed to dictate policy.
Blind pig finds acorn.
Pigs have excellent sense of smell, though. It’s why they’re commonly used to find truffles that grow underground.
Hi, conservative Catholics in Florida.
The politicians you voted for have just told you that the sectarian vision for the United States does not include you. Enjoy the consequences of your own actions, fascist enablers.
Leopards eating people's faces and so on comes to mind.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/998e4974ecc37a0a3ed0514dff89cde608c07d1dd43c15ab4f8e6f4585340d75.jpg
Adding hold music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_bZBs5uOFk
I was about to post the same thing. However, I would also like to add: Hahahahaha 😂😂😂
So, they want religious schools to get taxpayer money and not follow public safety regulations. Am I getting this right? That the state’s attorney general is pushing for the schools to not follow the rules that come with taxpayer dollars. So, our government is telling us there is no rule of law, only the agenda of whoever is in power. Florida really is the dick of the United States.
To be honest, the infighting between these two religious groups is not that important. What it will do is make clear the corruption of the AG, the voucher program, and might even inform the electorate of the dangers of mixing church and state. But, only to those who look for it.
I think Die Anyway got it right: they demand private schools who get taxpayer money be legally exempted from regulations liberal and Democrats support, while insisting at the point of jail time that the schools follow regulations Republicans support.
And while yes Florida often deserves its reputation, in this case I imagine that GOP state legislators all over the US will impose the same hypocrisy on every school they can. The no-vaccine mandate is a bit unusual, but the political power concept of "voucher schools must follow our GOP rules...but cannot follow Dem rules" is, IMO, pretty ubiquitous.
Dick of the United States 🇺🇸 ✨
Misshapen and corrupt too. That's why you shouldn't touch it or anything that originates there. Except Dave Barry.
(insert Bugs Bunny sawing it off GIF)
😂
Peyronie's disease.
Republicans have always been awful- at least during my lifetime- but if you had told me fifteen years ago that here, today, every single one of their policy goals would be aimed at making literally everything worse, I wouldn't have believed it. But here we are. They want our children to be ignorant, sick, or dead; they want to drive our economy over a cliff; they want bigotry to dominate reason and smother empathy; they want war; they want famine; they want the world to be on fire, and stay on fire... Republicans used to want, or so I thought, what they believed was best for the country, in their own wrong-headed way. I can't believe that anymore. Their individual voters might be fooled, but there is simply no way that the leaders of the GQP don't know better. They know exactly how destructive their policies are- they just don't care anymore, as long as they're the ones with all the power.
And because it bears endlessly repeating: Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines cause 𝘢𝘥𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘴.
They want Armageddon because somehow they think they will be exempt from every bad thing while they get to enjoy watching everyone else suffer.
They want to bring about the end times of the bible.
HEADLINE: "Florida Man Says Catholics Should Let Measles Spread!" At the risk of switching from Catholicism to Judaism, OY, VEY! That whole "cell lines from aborted fetuses" baloney was worn out back when John Paul II was their head honcho. Now this nutcase Uthmeier wants to insist that vaccinations, particularly for measles, NOT be mandatory for school attendance?
I'VE HAD MEASLES. It was over 60 years ago, but I remember it, and It ... Was ... MISERABLE. I was sick for nearly a week, off school, of course, and isolated from the rest of the family. The MMR vaccine wasn't even a twinkle in some virologist's eye, and if memory serves, a solo measles shot had barely been introduced in the early 1960s. Yet Uthmeier wants to put kids through this?
Honestly, I think the word: "atavistic" was invented for dips like him!
Yeah, I had measles too, as well as mumps, rubella, and chicken pox. Also long before a vaccine became available. They also want to bring back polio (and don't know what that was, the devastation it caused, the worldwide campaign to defeat it, the bravery of the people who got right up in the face of the disease and fought it. Nor do they remember the children's hospital wards full of iron lungs.) Fuck these idiots, fuck 'em sideways, and the scrawny horse they rode in on.
Somewhere, somehow, I just know there must be a medical supply executive licking his lips at the prospect of spinning up a new product line of iron lungs- all new for the digital age, computer controlled (and probably AI-enabled), on a subscription service model so you have to pay extra for the advanced features. They'll cost an arm, a leg, and a kidney, but what else are you gonna do, when your kid who was medically unable to get vaccinated catches polio from their antivaxxer-spawn classmates? Experience the wonders of capitalist healthcare- take out a second mortgage just so your child can keep breathing, and absolutely nothing more!
Hell is real. Conservatives have built it right here on Earth.
A while ago, I read that there are no companies (at least in the US) that currently make spare parts for iron lungs. The article interviewed polio survivors, many of them aging, who reported that they were reduced to scavenging parts from iron lungs owned by people who had died. Iron lungs were always expensive, as were any other pieces of medical equipment, so if polio comes back, your doomsday scenario doesn't sound all that implausible.
And for an added fee they can have their voice sound like Darth Vader.
This is a good thing. Maybe some Catholics will wake up to the inevitability of the Christian Nationalist Party forcing their stunted beliefs on everyone. "Everyone" including any Christian groups that don't toe their party line. Catholics could look the other way when they were just picking on Muslims or Hindus, but now, as was the CNP plan all along, (See Project 2025 and 2026) they are going after folks they were temporarily allied with.
(Most members of) the Queer community figured this out long ago. It's easy for example, to get the LGBs to throw trans people under the bus because, in some minds that makes the rest of the Queer community safe. Nope. Only for a few months or a year, and then they come after you too. Look how quickly they are coming after gay marriage now; they barely took a breath.
I hope Christians of all stripes will hear the wake-up call and realize that they are next. The Christian Nationalist Party will only be satisfied when they have their Evangelical CNP version of Sharia law governing America in all respects. Florida and a bunch of other states will soon look just like Iraq or Afghanistan. You can see the resemblance forming already.
Religion makes everything worse. Including religion.
The surprising thing is that this is a surprise to anyone for any reason.
Dominionist ‘Christians’ are not just fundamentalists. They are DominionIst first and Christian second. This is what happens when you have religious megalomaniacs— people who over identify with God— also have political power. What they want above all else is power and money. And an affirmation that they just like God.
If the Catholics play along with this, they will simply be handing over whatever power/authority they have to the secular state, which isn’t secular at all, but sectarian. Jesus said that you cannot serve both God and mammon.
Or as they say in the south, “ya gots ta dance with them what brung ya.”
Oh well, I feel sorry for the kids, but my sympathy only goes that far
"... They are DominionIst first and Christian second..."
And American somewhere around fifth or sixth, I guess.
Well yes.
They speak like they are Do,inionist Christian theocratic assholish Americans.
This is pure insanity. This country is experiencing the highest number of measles cases since 1991 and these anti-vax NUTBAGS just want to make everything worse. I hope they go to court over this.
Once again this is ideology run amok, superimposing an absolute standard on a relative situation. As I said before, albeit in German: madness.
Let me see if I've understood this correctly:
Religious institutions are allowed to ignore or violate any rule or regulation put in place by Democrats, however, they must obey all rules and regulations put in place by Republicans.
Did I get that right?
Want to bet this hypocrite is fully vaccinated on the down-low?
Probably vaccines were required before he started school as they were nearly everywhere before vaccines became a political issue rather than public health. His parents were probably glad he could have those vaccinations rather than suffer the illnesses we had before the vaccines were available.
I think he means against Covid.
I got my vaccinations in my arm.
Just as all the Fox News bobbleheads did
And here I didn't think they would start turning on each other until they had finished their planned extermination of those they have a shared hatred of.
While it would be folly to bank on the prospect, I don't think it entirely unlikely that this iteration of fascísm will be brought down not by political opposition, nor by force of arms... but rather by its own 𝘩𝘰𝘸𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 incompetence.
They've been turning each other since 380 CE.
As the article says, there's a lot wrong with this situation! And yes, it feels weird to be on the side of the RCC bishops.
But taking a step back - why the actual F has vaccination become such a religious hot-button issue? What warped thinking is going on that this is a RELIGIOUS issue?
This is one question, which I cannot get my head around!
https://www.rawstory.com/anti-trans-sports-measure/
what a bunch of low life perverts.
The Republican party has become utterly obsessed with the concept of trans. They can't deal with it, and they don't want to process it. They want it to go away, and if it won't go away (hint: IT WON'T!), they will try to legislate it away.
Further Hint: That won't work, either!
Being trans confuses them and their little hierarchy of power.
and it secretly turned a lot of them on.
I read "a lot" as all of them.
I've had the idea that it offends then so much because they see it as either degrading yourself (in their eyes) by becoming a 'lower' grade of human[M to F] or an unworthy human [F to M]claiming a status conception denied them. In either case they are offended that either exist and wouldn't hesitate to eradicate them. They just can't openly do it...yet.
*smdh*
You really have to wonder what they're scared of.
Everything.
Whatever happened to government overreach and parents being able to bring up their children the way they want to?