Few people disgust me more than those who claim their religion entitles them to a say in other people's personal choices. Their cherished 'moral teachings' are really just a rule book they pretend to follow because it is far easier and less painful for them than thinking. It's kind of hard to find things to feel grateful for these days, but be grateful you do not live in a world where the evangelical preachers got to make the rules for everyone. You would soon learn what true persecution looks like.
Evangelical Christians' insistence on universal conformity to their rules and lifestyle is the height of hubris and egotism. It's been clear for decades (if not centuries) that they can't deal with diversity or differences of opinion, because that clashes with their precious holey book, and the cognitive dissonance is too much to take.
To which I say, ya don't like the heat? The door to the kitchen is THAT WAY ====>
They can talk about their loving Jesus and the glorious afterlife from now on, but it's power and control over people on this earthly plain they covet most.
Please. Most of them would happily give up their glorious afterlife with Big J for the chance to see the people they hate get taken down. The whole appeal of their longed-for Rapture isn't the prospect of seeing their Jesus, it's the prospect of seeing 'em godless atheists burn.
The Christian Nationalists rednecks think that they (redneck) are our superior in race (most rednecks are white), morals (the rednecks follow the true faith) and politically (republican/Trump supporter) and that they (rednecks) should be the ones in charge of all society and it’s social norms.
Why else would these people be so full of mindless self-destructive hate that they'd vote for one of the most disgusting wastes of human DNA ever misconceived purely because they want to watch him and his lackeys hurt people and for no other reason than that? What a truly miserable way to live. I just wish they'd take it out on themselves instead of innocent people.
And I will insist with my dying breath that they want that kind of control because THEY ARE SCARED. Bunch of scared little kids who cannot deal with reality.
Once again I am simply stunned by the outrageous hypocrisy being served up hot & spicy to the poor deluded xtians. Those foolish, evil white men that the church has empowered to make the rules for EVERYONE are far from saints. Behind closed doors, they are getting their own freaky geeky on.
"God loves us, and His design for marriage is between one man and one woman,"
Really, Frankie? Tell us when Adam & Eve were ever married. And your god designed man and woman to be naked and unashamed. Does that tick you off as well?
OK Trouble. I started to watch the Betty video but couldn't watch much because the next video in my feed was Wolf Totem by the HU. Mongolian Metal. So of course I quickly deleted Betty. 🐺
Maybe a bit of a reach, but I'm reminded of that amazing opus of Eric Whitacre: When David Heard. I must have listened to this 100 times, and it just continues to floor me ... Every Last Time.
Goddybitch/jeezyboy/flying rat is a sadistic, murderous, egotistical monster who has tantrums at a drop of the hat. It & Co. (If deities existed) would be brought to the International Criminal Court for all the crimes it committed against humanity, and would be sentenced to it’s own hell for eternity!
Joey Chestnut is a competitive EATER. He holds the record for the most hot dogs (a.k.a. weiners, frankfurters, or just "franks") in a 10-minute period - 76!
Frankie, and others like him, needs to explain the instances of Biblical heroes like David taking many women as their wives, let alone having concubines bear children for them if their wives are not available for sexual intercourse.
I think it’s more like tunnel vision, but that just semantics. Either way, we (atheists) have seen very few if any Christians actually study (read it completely and understands the context of what was read) the Bible. The clergy want to maintain power and control by telling members of the church what verses to read and how to interpret them.
Perhaps if more Christians read the Bible on their own without the influence of the clergy, the Christians would have a better understanding of their religion.
I know that’s not going to happen, but one can hope!
Didn’t Daveyboy sent a man to his death so he can screw that man’s wife. Christians seem to forget that part, but I expect the Christians never to read their goddam fucking holy book of badly written fan fiction in need of a good editor!
As was sibling marriage, cousin marriage, plural marriage (for men only), and child marriage (again, for men only).
Used to wonder why we heard so much about saintly biblical mens' sexual peckerdillos (SWIDT?), but nothing similar about the womens' sexual adventures, with the exception of that weird passage about the 'Whore of Babylon,' which was a a symbol, an archetype, rather than a reference to an actual woman.
Yet it was them "Loose Women" we were repeatedly warned against from the pulpit.
it amazes me how people can talk about their god being a god of love, and then say a certain group deserves hell. and then when they try to say that love is unconditional love i have to laugh out loud, it's very conditional, transactional--you get his love and eternal life ONLY if you believe in his son! the healthiest (mental & physical) gift i ever gave to me was when i walked out of church and never looked back. i wonder how many people franklin & his ilk have driven from the church instead of calling them to it.
And they believe their god made the whole universe and everything in it. Us gay folk are in this universe (some days I wish we weren’t) . How came your god to make so many of us?
well, personally, i'm delighted you're here. i have family of choice whom i love that are LGBTQ+, and family of blood whom i love that are LGBTQ+. but, yeah, there are days (weeks? months?) that i wish i, too, could travel to a different universe;-)
Setting aside the latest performative Nat-C outrage...
A hearty 𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑨𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝑭𝒖𝒄𝒌? to the parents who are subjecting their kids to this. If you want to party like it's 1889 or whatever, you do you... but don't put your kids through it, and especially don't make a spectacle of it. "Reality" TV is no place for children- especially if the show is set up, as this one apparently is, as a fucking 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. The pressure alone is going to leave them needing years of therapy, let alone having cameras shoved in their faces during all their worst moments, and their family conflicts stoked and spied on, because that's where all the spiciest 𝐷𝑟𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎! comes from. 𝘌𝘸.
Reality TV as a whole concept needs to die in a fire, have its ashes pissed on by a diseased moose, shoveled into a furnace to be burned again, and last but not least packed into a cannon and blasted off the side of a mountain. The fuckhead who came up with the idea in the first place should be tried for crimes against humanity.
This is also the group (redneck) that think WWE is real, so I am not surprised when rednecks think shows like Swamp People, Duck Dynasty, Trailer Park Boys, etc. are reality. The rednecks like to deny reality or a least live in an alternate reality.
An unbiblical view of marriage and sexuality… one man and one woman… So an old geezer who married his sister and got her slave preggers is OK, and a king with 700 wives and concubines is OK… but a family with 2 dads is an abomination? These creeps are addicted to clicks on their odious posts. And, an oh, btw, there are legitimate biblical scholars who think the Apostle Paul was gay. Put that in your outrage pipe and smoke it.
Of course Paul was gay. He did all he could to persecute gays. And for that he was struck down, blind or whatever the hell it was. And remember - they always tell on themselves.
Paul complained about having a thorn in his flesh, but he never named what the thorn was. John Shelby Spong wrote something in one of his books about all of this. But I don’t remember what it was.
He could have been an asexual, someone who just found all sex repulsive from the get-go.
But his ongoing condemnations of men who lie with men being an abomination does sound a lot like a self-loathing closeted gay. While he certainly disdained heterosexual marriage, he seemed to absolutely loathe gay sex.
There you go. But then, who wrote down what he allegedly said? Or did he or someone else write anything or is it all just a big fairy tale to convince people of the message and the rules and if you don't obey you will be struck by lightning or at least fall off your horse 🐎.
I have read that in some scholarly circles, some of Paul's letters are thought to be wrongly attributed to him, or even outright forgeries. I have also read that some scholars have doubts that he even existed. My impression is that no one can really say yea or nay for certain.
As you point out, the problem is the message, the rules, the screeds, the rantings of a bitter, angry, hateful person, whoever they were, that have unfortunately come down through the centuries to be used today as bludgeons against people who live outside those narrow, rigid boundaries.
Heard a few sermons about that "thorn in the flesh" thing. Most ministers seemed to think it was failing eyesight? Somewhere in one of his alleged writings, he mentions having to write using very large letters. Don't know exactly where in the Bible this is, and too lazy to look it up right now.
Personally, I think they’re reaching. He might’ve referred to it as an annoyance if it was just his eyesight, but he referred to it as “a thorn in his flesh”. and since he was obsessed about the flesh and sex and the nastiness of both, I think it had very much to do with sex. Now it might’ve been plain old hetero sex, but who knows?
That title is a play on the old trope: Missing in action, but based on the word 'Myth'. The second Volume has a pic on the cover with Jesus on a milk carton and the words 'Have you seen me".
Before Saul became Paul, it is well known that he was a Roman soldier who actively persecuted Christians of that era. Roman soldiers went where and did as they were told. History tells us that one way the victorious Roman soldier persecuted a defeated enemy was to show domination by r*ping the enemy. It wasn’t sexual, it was simply expected behavior. Read your history books. Paul condemning homosexual acts was not about condemning a living relationship between two consenting adults. It was about protecting prisoners taken by the Roman army.
For what it's worth, the imaginary character Saul/Paul was not a soldier (nor was he a tax collector, as some believe). He was a Roman citizen of Tarsus who was a Pharisee, a strict sect of Judaism that emphasized total adherence to Jewish law. He was a tentmaker by trade.
Franklin Graham, professional grifter and bigot's only claim to fame was being born to his grifter parents. All the Grahams are grifter trash. A tv show has his panties in a bunch, not innocent people being snatched off the streets and being put in concentration camps , or starving children or genocide. What a POS.
As a conservative and a fan of RFF jr, I am doubly disappointed. Not only is this show glorifying the devil's marriage, but there is also a severe lack of preventable commutable diseases. Where is the typhus and cholera? Did you know not dying of smallpox is a leading cause of autism.
You aren't a 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 pioneer until you've lost at least one family member to dysentery and a minimum of 1 ox and three days' worth of supplies trying to ford a river.
You can have a nazis at your throat trying to kill you or a nazis dead at your feet.
I am tired of treating religious with kid gloves, we (nonbelievers) need to keep standing up for ourselves and push back on the religious ideology. Otherwise it will be the death of humanity!!!
This little intra-Christian war is just one of the first examples of the growing crack within evangelical Christianity. Roger Williams of RI warned against mixing religion with government because he saw how plainly the mixing would lead to corruption of the faith AND the government. The dropping of the Johnson Amendment will help further widen the crack. I already know at least two couple who quit their churches over politics, and this will only increase. As an atheist I say the downfall of Christianity can't happen fast enough!
The downfall of all world religions can’t happen fast enough! I wouldn’t shed a goddamm tear if all religions were to disappear this instant!
If religions were to disappear, then humanity could progress and solve the problems that the world is facing. Humanity can be very creative, innovative, and imaginative when solving problems without the rigid constraints of religions holding humanity back!
I have been longing for this downfall for years now. I hope to live long enough to see it, and the sooner the better. Once the beast is dead, the disease is cured, whatever metaphor works best for you, there will be a lot of damage left in its wake - broken people, broken families, broken institutions - and I hope there are enough kind-hearted people left to help pick up the pieces.
In the bible, a man named Lot offered up his two virgin daughters (both more than likely underage) to a mob to be gang raped. All in order to protect two male strangers. Later in a cave, he "drunkenly" copulates with those very same daughters, impregnating both. No marriage was involved. And yet Lot was considered a righteous man.
Xtians really need to read their own bibles for themselves instead of being spoon pap by their local conman.
As much as they hate it when they aren't allowed to control people outside their bubble, they 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 hate when people they think are inside their bubble step outside and deny their control.
Christian-influential couple casts gay couple in reality TV program. Evangelical community loses their shit. Water is wet, and the sun rises in the east.
It is long past time that the US evangelical community recognized the fact that THEY DON'T RUN THE COUNTRY, much as they'd love to. They don't get to be the final arbiter on every last thing that comes to American media, and they sure as hell don't get a veto on casting for reality television. Once again, I'm reminded of the spoiled brat, insisting that he'll hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get his way.
Meanwhile, Chip and Joanna will likely continue programming their show, and if asked about their choice for the participants of that show and that one of the couples is gay, their response could be something like this:
"Promoting something that God defines as sin is in itself sin." But apparently it's not a sin to pass laws that cause women who have ectopic pregnancies to die of sepsis.
Never heard of that show or of them. Whatever their reasons, if they want to include couples that are not straights lily white, then good for the couples showed.
Super Nanny "I want to see more homosexual families on my show. (She had one Belgian lesbian couple, I remember DM calling me to watch this one with her).
"Stacey Abrams played the president of Earth."
Now, I have to find and watch it. I am she rocked her role.
To any and all xtians who take offense at this:
For god's sake, turn your TVs off and read your bibles. Just make sure they're not KJVs. The ones by the gay king.
Or the version by the basketball 🏀 player. 😅
Don't worry, the people who are bothered by this only swear by the Trump bible.
Do NOT read the one from the First Reformed Church of Pastrami, so ordained by Jibbers Crabst.
Few people disgust me more than those who claim their religion entitles them to a say in other people's personal choices. Their cherished 'moral teachings' are really just a rule book they pretend to follow because it is far easier and less painful for them than thinking. It's kind of hard to find things to feel grateful for these days, but be grateful you do not live in a world where the evangelical preachers got to make the rules for everyone. You would soon learn what true persecution looks like.
Evangelical Christians' insistence on universal conformity to their rules and lifestyle is the height of hubris and egotism. It's been clear for decades (if not centuries) that they can't deal with diversity or differences of opinion, because that clashes with their precious holey book, and the cognitive dissonance is too much to take.
To which I say, ya don't like the heat? The door to the kitchen is THAT WAY ====>
They can talk about their loving Jesus and the glorious afterlife from now on, but it's power and control over people on this earthly plain they covet most.
Please. Most of them would happily give up their glorious afterlife with Big J for the chance to see the people they hate get taken down. The whole appeal of their longed-for Rapture isn't the prospect of seeing their Jesus, it's the prospect of seeing 'em godless atheists burn.
I have long felt Christianity to be roughly equal parts comfort myth and revenge fantasy.
Which is why tRump is equivalent to the second coming to evangelical Christians
They want revenge on people for merely existing.
They are an ongoing example of why no country in its right mind hands power to the preachers.
"glorious afterlife with Big J"
Julius Irving?
That's Dr. Big J. Thankyou.
Jay and Silent Bob
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_and_Silent_Bob#/media/File:Jay_and_Silent_Bob.jpg
I rather hangout with Jay and silent Bob, then all the Christian Nationalists asshole in that goddamm fucking hellhole called heaven.
Dogma is one of my favorite movies of all time. Love Jay and Silent Bob!
Even I'd go for an afterlife watching Dr. J! 😂😂😂
Oh please. He was "Dr. J." ;)
No man. Dr J 🏀🏀
Why all this hate? Is “live and let live” so heinous a concept they must strike out?
Yes, and hell yes.
The Christian Nationalists rednecks think that they (redneck) are our superior in race (most rednecks are white), morals (the rednecks follow the true faith) and politically (republican/Trump supporter) and that they (rednecks) should be the ones in charge of all society and it’s social norms.
In short, yes.
Why else would these people be so full of mindless self-destructive hate that they'd vote for one of the most disgusting wastes of human DNA ever misconceived purely because they want to watch him and his lackeys hurt people and for no other reason than that? What a truly miserable way to live. I just wish they'd take it out on themselves instead of innocent people.
And I will insist with my dying breath that they want that kind of control because THEY ARE SCARED. Bunch of scared little kids who cannot deal with reality.
And their kids will grow up the same way. Home schooled, stilted in their thinking, never socialized and perfect prey for the church.
And those kids, like trumpy, will wonder why nobody in the real world likes them.
Once again I am simply stunned by the outrageous hypocrisy being served up hot & spicy to the poor deluded xtians. Those foolish, evil white men that the church has empowered to make the rules for EVERYONE are far from saints. Behind closed doors, they are getting their own freaky geeky on.
A big part of that is the fact they seldom pay a price for their hypocrisy, and have a great talent for rationalizing excuses for their every failure.
mostly with underaged kids.
"God loves us, and His design for marriage is between one man and one woman,"
Really, Frankie? Tell us when Adam & Eve were ever married. And your god designed man and woman to be naked and unashamed. Does that tick you off as well?
Shall we also mention Betty Bowers' take on biblical marriage? Ya know what? I think we SHALL!
Or maybe not. Did Betty PULL that video??? I can't find it!
Edit: GOT IT!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
Here ya go
youtu.be/OFkeKKszXTw
Betty rocks!
Oops! You edited and posted it after I posted mine.
Hey, no worries. That's important educational stuff there! 🤣🤣🤣
And I was about to post mine.
It was weird. I went to YouTube and searched on "Betty Bowers marriage" and darn near EVERYTHING but that video showed up.
So I used Google - BINGO!
I used my browser, and same as you, the right video was the first proposed.
I suspect the algorithm was changed in an effort to make more money. No proof of that, mind.
NOW I understand! Thanks, Betty.
Betty is THE BOMB! Her take on the screwiness of Christianity and modern-day Christians never fails to be on point!
OK Trouble. I started to watch the Betty video but couldn't watch much because the next video in my feed was Wolf Totem by the HU. Mongolian Metal. So of course I quickly deleted Betty. 🐺
Last concert I went to (with my mother) was the HU 😁
Did they play "HU Are You?"
*Groan*
I really want to know.
Oh wow. I've never seen them live. They're doing a small tour in Turkey and Finland.
That day they played Yuve yuve yu, Wolf totem and Black Thunder one after the other. Musical orgasm 😁
Totally tribal. Hu Hu Hu Hu Hu.
PARTY POOPER! Anyway, when you're done with Wolf Totem, Betty's link will still be there!
OG. THX!! 🤪😝😜
Wolf Totem’s been out for awhile. It’s place is secure. :)
(Saw them at The Crocodile on the Warrior Souls Tour here a couple of years ago)
I just watched an acoustic video of Shireg Shireg. Flute and all. 💕
Try this one :)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8zjo92jnyVw&pp=ygUUdGhlIGh1IGFjb3VzdGljIGxpdmU%3D
Thank you. Performed even at the Embassy. Awesome!!
If god's design for marriage is one man and one woman, why Solomon, one of his chosen kings, had several wives and concubines ?
Same question for Mérovingiens christian kings or Charlemagne.
Even their David had 8 wives.
(Solomon would've smirked and thought "Amateur")
And had one of his underlings whacked so he could get with the guy's wife. Such a fine, upstanding king.
When David and Bathsheba gave birth to a son, YHVH punished them…by killing the infant son and not them.
The biblical deity is Fucked. Up.
EDITED
That was actually their son who died a week after he was born to punish David and Bathsheba for their sins. Not the daughter.
You're right. The innocent son was mentioned in 2 Samuel 12:10-14.
Maybe a bit of a reach, but I'm reminded of that amazing opus of Eric Whitacre: When David Heard. I must have listened to this 100 times, and it just continues to floor me ... Every Last Time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZkKTbzrkV8
Goddybitch/jeezyboy/flying rat is a sadistic, murderous, egotistical monster who has tantrums at a drop of the hat. It & Co. (If deities existed) would be brought to the International Criminal Court for all the crimes it committed against humanity, and would be sentenced to it’s own hell for eternity!
And coveted someone else's wife. Why is it that the biblical bigshots get a pass when it comes to the commandments?
WTF are Mèrovingiens?
French/Frank royal dynasty roughly from early 6th century to end of 8th
Don't make me. So are French franks the forerunners of the hotdogs Joey Chestnut gobbles down on the 4th?
J'ai rien compris 🤣
Joey Chestnut is a competitive EATER. He holds the record for the most hot dogs (a.k.a. weiners, frankfurters, or just "franks") in a 10-minute period - 76!
?? Sorry no parle vous
Or French either
You beat me to it BH.
I am the mourner, Black Hole was the nickname of my Doggess 🤣
Merci pour la correction.
Frankie, and others like him, needs to explain the instances of Biblical heroes like David taking many women as their wives, let alone having concubines bear children for them if their wives are not available for sexual intercourse.
I mentioned David as well a couple of minutes before you did. Isn't it amazing how selective xtians are?
I think it’s more like tunnel vision, but that just semantics. Either way, we (atheists) have seen very few if any Christians actually study (read it completely and understands the context of what was read) the Bible. The clergy want to maintain power and control by telling members of the church what verses to read and how to interpret them.
Perhaps if more Christians read the Bible on their own without the influence of the clergy, the Christians would have a better understanding of their religion.
I know that’s not going to happen, but one can hope!
Didn’t Daveyboy sent a man to his death so he can screw that man’s wife. Christians seem to forget that part, but I expect the Christians never to read their goddam fucking holy book of badly written fan fiction in need of a good editor!
Uriah.
Frankie huh? Love that. I call the right wing senator from our state Mikie.
And remind them there's a really good book about all of this nonsense. Letters from the Earth by Mark Twain.
I've heard the rationalization as to why Adam and Eve were actually married, but I can't remember what it was. I'm sure it was monumentally stupid.
Clone marriage was common back then.
I would totally do myself.
https://members.tripod.com/~bardic_circle/aclone.htm
Ohhhh, THAT is PRECIOUS! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's a video of him singing it too.
Eww no, I’m awful company.
But having your very own three ring circus...
Weird Al song “I think I am a clone now” seem to jump into my mind at this point!!!!
Me too. I posted it an hour ago. :D
Uh oh, I hear a song comin' on
youtu.be/7vFGKHzY_38
As was sibling marriage, cousin marriage, plural marriage (for men only), and child marriage (again, for men only).
Used to wonder why we heard so much about saintly biblical mens' sexual peckerdillos (SWIDT?), but nothing similar about the womens' sexual adventures, with the exception of that weird passage about the 'Whore of Babylon,' which was a a symbol, an archetype, rather than a reference to an actual woman.
Yet it was them "Loose Women" we were repeatedly warned against from the pulpit.
I've read the bible in 4 different translations. They were never married. As usual, xtians make shit up.
4 too many
Got easier and faster with each translation. Cemented my atheism.
I would never be able to maintain an interest. But, as you say, it was for a good cause cementing your atheism.
I prefer the song. Maybe Frankie can sing it
Jesus loves me, this I know.
For the Bible tells me so.
.sorry -from my long ago childhood 😔
You beat me to it NG. I should have read the other posts before posting.
Gots ta be fast ‘round heah. :)
Frankenstein Graham needs to get a life, a real job, and a well-paid hooker*. Not necessarily in that order.
*Because any woman spending any amount of time with that asshole loser deserves to be very well compensated for her sacrifice.
it amazes me how people can talk about their god being a god of love, and then say a certain group deserves hell. and then when they try to say that love is unconditional love i have to laugh out loud, it's very conditional, transactional--you get his love and eternal life ONLY if you believe in his son! the healthiest (mental & physical) gift i ever gave to me was when i walked out of church and never looked back. i wonder how many people franklin & his ilk have driven from the church instead of calling them to it.
And they believe their god made the whole universe and everything in it. Us gay folk are in this universe (some days I wish we weren’t) . How came your god to make so many of us?
well, personally, i'm delighted you're here. i have family of choice whom i love that are LGBTQ+, and family of blood whom i love that are LGBTQ+. but, yeah, there are days (weeks? months?) that i wish i, too, could travel to a different universe;-)
I didn’t sign up to live in Bizarro World!
Sadly, not enough.
Setting aside the latest performative Nat-C outrage...
A hearty 𝑾𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑨𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍 𝑭𝒖𝒄𝒌? to the parents who are subjecting their kids to this. If you want to party like it's 1889 or whatever, you do you... but don't put your kids through it, and especially don't make a spectacle of it. "Reality" TV is no place for children- especially if the show is set up, as this one apparently is, as a fucking 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. The pressure alone is going to leave them needing years of therapy, let alone having cameras shoved in their faces during all their worst moments, and their family conflicts stoked and spied on, because that's where all the spiciest 𝐷𝑟𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎𝑎! comes from. 𝘌𝘸.
Reality TV as a whole concept needs to die in a fire, have its ashes pissed on by a diseased moose, shoveled into a furnace to be burned again, and last but not least packed into a cannon and blasted off the side of a mountain. The fuckhead who came up with the idea in the first place should be tried for crimes against humanity.
👏🏼👏🏼 There’s no reason to watch reality tv in my mind. If it’s tv it’s not real, unless it’s an actual documentary.
Like the Flintstones. : )
Of course.
😂
Those lucky dogs, living with dinosaurs. It has to be true, it was on TV.
😂😂😂😂😂❤️
This is also the group (redneck) that think WWE is real, so I am not surprised when rednecks think shows like Swamp People, Duck Dynasty, Trailer Park Boys, etc. are reality. The rednecks like to deny reality or a least live in an alternate reality.
Yep, the Duck boys were clean-shaven until they did the show.
Reality TV shows aren't as "real" as they want you to believe.
Wars are good cuz jeezy boy cannot do any self-directed movement.
An unbiblical view of marriage and sexuality… one man and one woman… So an old geezer who married his sister and got her slave preggers is OK, and a king with 700 wives and concubines is OK… but a family with 2 dads is an abomination? These creeps are addicted to clicks on their odious posts. And, an oh, btw, there are legitimate biblical scholars who think the Apostle Paul was gay. Put that in your outrage pipe and smoke it.
Of course Paul was gay. He did all he could to persecute gays. And for that he was struck down, blind or whatever the hell it was. And remember - they always tell on themselves.
And every accusation is a confession.
Do you have names or links ? I never heard of Saul of Tarsus being gay, and now I am curious.
Paul complained about having a thorn in his flesh, but he never named what the thorn was. John Shelby Spong wrote something in one of his books about all of this. But I don’t remember what it was.
Paul spoke vociferously against all sex. He saw marriage as cheap salvation for those who could not control their vile passions.
"It is better to marry than to burn."
-- 1 Corinthians 7:9
Swell sentiment. 😝
Would make a great anniversary card, wouldn't it?
Oh, PEACHY! 😖
He could have been an asexual, someone who just found all sex repulsive from the get-go.
But his ongoing condemnations of men who lie with men being an abomination does sound a lot like a self-loathing closeted gay. While he certainly disdained heterosexual marriage, he seemed to absolutely loathe gay sex.
Or at least he said he did.
There you go. But then, who wrote down what he allegedly said? Or did he or someone else write anything or is it all just a big fairy tale to convince people of the message and the rules and if you don't obey you will be struck by lightning or at least fall off your horse 🐎.
I have read that in some scholarly circles, some of Paul's letters are thought to be wrongly attributed to him, or even outright forgeries. I have also read that some scholars have doubts that he even existed. My impression is that no one can really say yea or nay for certain.
As you point out, the problem is the message, the rules, the screeds, the rantings of a bitter, angry, hateful person, whoever they were, that have unfortunately come down through the centuries to be used today as bludgeons against people who live outside those narrow, rigid boundaries.
Heard a few sermons about that "thorn in the flesh" thing. Most ministers seemed to think it was failing eyesight? Somewhere in one of his alleged writings, he mentions having to write using very large letters. Don't know exactly where in the Bible this is, and too lazy to look it up right now.
Personally, I think they’re reaching. He might’ve referred to it as an annoyance if it was just his eyesight, but he referred to it as “a thorn in his flesh”. and since he was obsessed about the flesh and sex and the nastiness of both, I think it had very much to do with sex. Now it might’ve been plain old hetero sex, but who knows?
Got a point there.
I first saw it in one of David Fitzgerald’s books. I think it is ‘Jesus: Mything in Action’ - maybe vol. 2.
Thanks.
What is "My thing?"
Sounds like a man's second brain. You know, the one that's really in charge, or at least in action
That title is a play on the old trope: Missing in action, but based on the word 'Myth'. The second Volume has a pic on the cover with Jesus on a milk carton and the words 'Have you seen me".
It also features in the 𝘔𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦𝘴 series of books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythAdventures
Before Saul became Paul, it is well known that he was a Roman soldier who actively persecuted Christians of that era. Roman soldiers went where and did as they were told. History tells us that one way the victorious Roman soldier persecuted a defeated enemy was to show domination by r*ping the enemy. It wasn’t sexual, it was simply expected behavior. Read your history books. Paul condemning homosexual acts was not about condemning a living relationship between two consenting adults. It was about protecting prisoners taken by the Roman army.
For what it's worth, the imaginary character Saul/Paul was not a soldier (nor was he a tax collector, as some believe). He was a Roman citizen of Tarsus who was a Pharisee, a strict sect of Judaism that emphasized total adherence to Jewish law. He was a tentmaker by trade.
Franklin Graham, professional grifter and bigot's only claim to fame was being born to his grifter parents. All the Grahams are grifter trash. A tv show has his panties in a bunch, not innocent people being snatched off the streets and being put in concentration camps , or starving children or genocide. What a POS.
Nailed it.
When have conservatives ever cared about anyone beside themselves?
As a conservative and a fan of RFF jr, I am doubly disappointed. Not only is this show glorifying the devil's marriage, but there is also a severe lack of preventable commutable diseases. Where is the typhus and cholera? Did you know not dying of smallpox is a leading cause of autism.
You aren't a 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭 pioneer until you've lost at least one family member to dysentery and a minimum of 1 ox and three days' worth of supplies trying to ford a river.
https://www.fordtremor.com/media/tremor-fording-river-jpg.36597/full
Murika!
Should have taken your Chevy to the levee, at least that's dry.
Finally. Someone makes sense.
But the levee was dry
The average suburbanite's commute.
Hmph. Here I thought dying of cholera was the CURE for autism! Who knew?
Death is the cure for kkkristerism?
Hey ... ya can't make omelets without breaking a few eggs, ya know! 🤪
You can have a nazis at your throat trying to kill you or a nazis dead at your feet.
I am tired of treating religious with kid gloves, we (nonbelievers) need to keep standing up for ourselves and push back on the religious ideology. Otherwise it will be the death of humanity!!!
Cholera, like alcohol, is the solution to all of life's problems, including life itself.
Technically, alcohol really is a solution: CH₃CH₂OH
https://www.concordatwatch.eu/roger-williams-erects-a-wall-between-church-and-state--t8611
This little intra-Christian war is just one of the first examples of the growing crack within evangelical Christianity. Roger Williams of RI warned against mixing religion with government because he saw how plainly the mixing would lead to corruption of the faith AND the government. The dropping of the Johnson Amendment will help further widen the crack. I already know at least two couple who quit their churches over politics, and this will only increase. As an atheist I say the downfall of Christianity can't happen fast enough!
Roger Williams sure as hell doesn't get enough airplay for his position on State / Church separation, and he deserves a LOT MORE!
The downfall of all world religions can’t happen fast enough! I wouldn’t shed a goddamm tear if all religions were to disappear this instant!
If religions were to disappear, then humanity could progress and solve the problems that the world is facing. Humanity can be very creative, innovative, and imaginative when solving problems without the rigid constraints of religions holding humanity back!
I have been longing for this downfall for years now. I hope to live long enough to see it, and the sooner the better. Once the beast is dead, the disease is cured, whatever metaphor works best for you, there will be a lot of damage left in its wake - broken people, broken families, broken institutions - and I hope there are enough kind-hearted people left to help pick up the pieces.
I read a bio of Roger Williams and he became one of my American (sorta) heroes.
Here: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=biography+of+roger+williams&hvadid=694587091180&hvdev=c&hvexpln=67&hvlocphy=9008020&hvnetw=g&hvocijid=17038755478671930403--&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17038755478671930403&hvtargid=kwd-1729798904295&hydadcr=22127_13323349&mcid=46f4a37a710d3e2ab1a1251e911aee42&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_38tun9ew15_e_p67
In the bible, a man named Lot offered up his two virgin daughters (both more than likely underage) to a mob to be gang raped. All in order to protect two male strangers. Later in a cave, he "drunkenly" copulates with those very same daughters, impregnating both. No marriage was involved. And yet Lot was considered a righteous man.
Xtians really need to read their own bibles for themselves instead of being spoon pap by their local conman.
I don't remember that Lot story. Guess I didn't read the Bible too closely.
Wanna know what’s in the bible? Always ask an athest. Never an xtian. :)
Don’t forget the story of the two daughters who got their father drunk and then took him to bed. !! Read your bible closely.
Can't. Don't have or own a Bible. 🤪
As much as they hate it when they aren't allowed to control people outside their bubble, they 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 hate when people they think are inside their bubble step outside and deny their control.
Oh no, ma, one of the sheep got loose! Fetch me the horsewhip so's I can git em back in the pen!
Christian-influential couple casts gay couple in reality TV program. Evangelical community loses their shit. Water is wet, and the sun rises in the east.
It is long past time that the US evangelical community recognized the fact that THEY DON'T RUN THE COUNTRY, much as they'd love to. They don't get to be the final arbiter on every last thing that comes to American media, and they sure as hell don't get a veto on casting for reality television. Once again, I'm reminded of the spoiled brat, insisting that he'll hold his breath until he turns blue if he doesn't get his way.
Meanwhile, Chip and Joanna will likely continue programming their show, and if asked about their choice for the participants of that show and that one of the couples is gay, their response could be something like this:
GROW UP!!!
I said, what does God need with a third rate cable TV show anyway?
Jim!!!
C'mon Bones, God never needs a fixer upper, he just washes away what he doesn't want.
"Promoting something that God defines as sin is in itself sin." But apparently it's not a sin to pass laws that cause women who have ectopic pregnancies to die of sepsis.
God doesn't mind if you kill your chattel.
It is a sin ONLY if you believe in such foolishness.
The comedian is going to protect his kids from the lies of the world by lying to them about the existence of gay couples. Got it.
"comedian" ; )
Who's the comedian? I didn't know kkkristers had a sense of humor.
Never heard of that show or of them. Whatever their reasons, if they want to include couples that are not straights lily white, then good for the couples showed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S9HnsH2Z-UI
Super Nanny "I want to see more homosexual families on my show. (She had one Belgian lesbian couple, I remember DM calling me to watch this one with her).
"Stacey Abrams played the president of Earth."
Now, I have to find and watch it. I am she rocked her role.
As a Trek fan and a Stacey Abrams fan I can't believe I missed that show! I'll be hunting that one down as well.