To focus only on the Christian’s magic book lends the impression nothing else was going on in the world, and that isn’t true by a long shot. Here are some unpleasant facts Christians brush aside as unimportant. There are no original copies of the gospels. No one knows who wrote them. Every single copy of the Bible for centuries to come were copied by hand and as Bart Ehrman points out, there are multiple discrepancies between them. There is little to no independent corroboration for the stories of the Old Testament. It cannot be objectively determined that the majority of the people mentioned there ever even existed, much less what they might have actually said. The religious right sees their book as the answer to everything in spite of the fact these people can’t even understand the questions.
Just like a movement called Scientology. If there are numerous CONTEMPORARY sources for jeezyboy, then provide non theological sources. Don’t give me that shit about ALL SCHOLARS accept the existence of jeezyboy, if that is true you can provide numerous sources. I DON’T HAVE TO PROVE NON EXISTENCE OF JEEZYBOY!
Christianity is the most factionalized religion on the planet. Nothing else even comes close. This is something that should concern believers far more than it does because it speaks to a divine being who supposedly willed the universe into existence, but when it came to the most important message imaginable, . . . couldn't make himself understood.
You bet your ass I am. No contemporaneous records or eyewitness accounts. Highly questionable accounts from Saul / Paul, some of which are demonstrable forgeries. First actual "historical" records not until 40 years after his putative death. Massive amounts of plagiarizes among the synoptic gospels where they agree and equally massive departures, inclusions and exclusions where they don't. Addenda to some versions of the gospels after the fact.
And most of all, NO INDEPENDENT REPORTAGE, outside of the bible. The "story" of Jesus is a load of hooey and not worth my time or respect, other than for literary value.
I've said it before: the Bhagavad Gita, while just as fictional, is a WAY more fun and engaging read, as is the Mahabharata, which tells an actual STORY.
Given that we are talking about an itinerant preacher in the boondocks of the Roman Empire, why would you expect there to be all sorts of reportage outside of the Bible if you dismiss Tacitus and Josephus?
Tacitus and Josephus both wrote AFTER THE FACT, and that's an automatic disqualification in my book.
And there were all manner of relatively educated people about Judea during the time your carpenter-turned-rabbi was supposedly preaching and healing. If actual miracles were going on, the attention and concurrent reportage of one sort or another would be all but automatic. Someone would have put SOMETHING down on paper / papyrus / whatever.
And yet they didn't ... because there was no event to record.
This itinerant preacher supposedly resurrected in a way that had many of the dead of Jerusalem rising from their graves.
It is beyond ridiculous to think the Romans would not have recorded a massive zombie uprising. It is frankly beyond ridiculous to believe it really happened, and the only thing stopping you from agreeing to that is the massive and irrational bias you have which causes you to defer to biblical claims even when they say ridiculous things.
Even as a record of oral traditions, the Bible fails. Look at other cultures that have strong oral traditions, their stories are more consistent and make more sense, even acknowledging that they’re myths or fairytales.
"There is little to no independent corroboration for the stories of the Old Testament."
Oh it's worse than that; there is good evidence Exodus is a flat out fable, developed later. It uses 6th cent. BC names for places instead of their 12th-14th cent. BC names, and (I love this one) at the time it supposedly happened, Egypt controlled the "Canaan" region. So they literally went from Egypt to Egypt lol.
On top of all that, David Fitzgerald's "Playing God" books about attempting to reconcile Biblical fairy tales with verified archeological evidence indicates that north of 90% of the Bible is fiction.
"We don't care about facts and accuracy, we'll just find someone who we can bend to our will." Texas Board of Education undermining the education of their children in favor of Christian Nazionalist indoctrination. Why am I not surprised?
“A 2nd Grade lesson about “Fighting for the Cause” introduced students to “ordinary people who stood up for what they believed in and who fought for a cause, even when faced with immeasurable odds.” That sounded wonderful! The leaders mentioned in the unit included Jackie Robinson, Dolores Huerta, Rosa Parks… and the biblical character Queen Esther.”
Since when is a queen an ordinary person? Even if Esther was ordinary and fought the fight which made her a queen, that is too far afield for 2nd graders to grasp. But looking at the story (per overview on Wikipedia) Esther was already a queen when she fought whatever fight that made her famous. So, she was clearly added just to include a Bible reference and not because she actually fits the purpose of the curriculum.
I see the problem. You thought the purpose of schooling was education. It's not for white fundamentalists. The purpose of schooling for them is indoctrinating the next generation to be anti-science, white supremacist bigots who love white Jesus and white America and hate everyone else.
The Texas BoE want students to answer bible-based questions while I want to ask the Texas BoE (and adult Texans in general) why they keep putting the obscenely corrupt xtian Ken Paxton back in power.
This is the kind of ham-fisted BS I've come to expect from those who are trying to inveigle Christianity into secular classrooms. They'll cram their noise in any way they can, and it should be no surprise that they are so anxious to do so that the number of errors in their efforts stack up like cord wood. This doesn't even mention the amount of re-jiggering classroom curricula will need to deal with this new (and unnecessary) material.
We've all said it at one time or another: leave biblical bullshit for Sunday school. THAT is where it belongs.
No different than what you see in the likes of Dumb Idiot Ken Ham's writings where everything sentence and paragraph is swamped with Bible verse references in parentheses that points to verses in the Bible that has zero to do with what Dumb Idiot Ham is talking about in his stupid writings.
The ham-fistedness comes from their authoritarian culture; they value loyalty over competency so much that when given the opportunity to write textbooks, they get loyalists to write it instead of competent writers.
I think this is probably a good thing for us. An own goal on their part. Imagine how much harder it would be for a Principal to decide not to use the free books if those '6 pages of bible story' inserts were all well-written, well-edited, on-grade-level content.
Both Democrats AND Republicans hated Gnome and called for her to resign. A call which was met with applause from the entire room. Now she's "stepping down" (translation: Trump told her "You're Fired." (tm) )
Long overdue. But she's still in place for the rest of March. I fear what will happen in the meantime. Maybe she goes out in a blaze of homicidal fuckery. Because she is a psychopathic puppy killing bitch.
From what the news says, it likely had to do with her claiming Trump knew about and approved her personal ad campaign, when he didn't. You can lie to the public, you can lie about the public, but you can't lie to the boss or about the boss in a way that makes him look bad.
Also she was probably sleeping with her aide, since Congress repeatedly asked her if she was and she never actually said "no I'm not." Yes, we all know Trump's history, but I'm guessing both he and Miller have a sexist double standard when it comes to cheating.
I draw the conclusion that Trump probably did know about it and approved it. She was under oath (and her refusal to deny her affair under oath) suggests to me that she wasn’t going to step over that line.
The problem is that ad campaign was getting criticized even by MAGA bootlickers. It was starting to look bad to the wrong people. And if there’s one thing we know about Trump, anything that is his fault is never his fault.
It is more reasonable to think Trump lied when he denied knowing about it — because Trump always lies.
It's been an open secret that she's been boning abuser Lewandoski for years.
"What is it about Lewandowski, what is that je ne sais quoi that Trump craves? He got fired by Trump twice already! Once in June of 2016, a few months after he was arrested and charged with battery for assaulting Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields (charges were later dropped, even though the incident was on video). But Trump summoned him back a month later, right before the GOP convention.
Lewandowski’s greatest hits include when he “womp womp” mocked the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother after crossing the border, showed up on Fox seemingly drunk and slurring his words, and reportedly carried on an affair for years with married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem. (Some People even say he was the one with the genius idea to include that dog-shooting incident in her book.) MAGA singer Joy Villa also accused Lewandowski of repeatedly slapping her ass.
“I said, ‘Watch it.’ Half-joking, I said, ‘I can report you for sexual harassment.’”
“He said, ‘Go ahead, I work in the private sector,’” Villa recalled. “Then he smacks my ass again.”
Oh, and WHILE MARRIED he reportedly bumped bits with the nine-years-younger Hope Hicks, to which Trump remarked, “You're the best piece of tail he'll ever have.” Party of family values!
What it finally took to get Lewandowski let go from official Trump duties was HOLY SHIT details coming out about his (alleged) vile sexual piggery and fucking scary aggression towards Trashelle Odom, a Trump campaign donor’s wife, at a Las Vegas Benihana fundraiser: talking about his dick nonstop over dinner, bragging to her about committing multiple murders, touching her repeatedly, throwing a drink in her face and calling her stupid for rebuffing his advances, eating off of her plate, stalking her to her hotel room … all in front of Odom’s husband, and (married) Lewandowski’s alleged mistress, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem(!) The Daily Mail got hold of the police report, and it is quite something! Enough to get him canned from the Trump PAC, because there IS a line too far, and that is assaulting a major donor’s wife! Lewandowski was charged with criminal sexual harassment, but got a plea deal that included “impulse control training.”
Wrote Liz Dye, lawyer and psychic, in 2021, “he'll probably get put in time out for ten minutes, then wind up in the inner circle again when Trump thinks nobody's looking. Take that one to the bank.”
So both he and Noem broke the golden rule: commit all the moral outrages you want, GOP is fine with that. Endanger donations (Lewandowski) or steal/divert money from our pot (Noem), you're out.
The guy who's replacing her is as dumb as a box full of hammers – I'm not even American and I know that. I've heard him talk several times. But according to trump hes "highly respected". Yeah right.
Mullin is a former MMA fighter who was undefeated. That might sound impressive until you realize that that his bouts were short and his career was very brief (a single year).
Official records show him at 3 - 0, but in his biography, he claims 5 - 0. I'm thinking he padded that record.
Markwayne Mullin brags about being in combat and knowing the smell of war, but he's never served in the military. He's a Stolen Valor type. Mullin was a plumber whose daddy was a plumber that handed his plumbing business to his son.
Dimwitted Mark Wayne Mullin. Who is 1/128th part Cherokee and brags about being the only Indian in the Senate. The Cherokee nation has no blood requirement like other tribes.
A lot of poor people in Texas paid taxes for this shit. They should all be hopping mad at the way the BoE is shoveling their tax money into a fiery furnace and openly coercing them into using such shoddy material to "educate" their children.
America First? Wait, WHO exactly is “America”? Imagine hurling insults at mayor Mamdani’s shoveling employment, but clapping for throwing your money straight into the garbage?
* Why is there no actual documentation of Herod ever issuing a decree to have all the first-born male children aged 2 years and under in Bethlehem and the surrounding area put to death?
* Why is there no actual documentation of Pontius Pilate having a man named Jesus put to death via crucifixion DESPITE the fact that Romans were meticulous record keepers?
Look do we want smart Texans? Just imagine a Cowboys fan that can string more than four words together? Years of disappointment and the vocabulary to express it. They will never shut up.
Never cared for The Big Bang Theory. I think it trivializes science and engineering, and yeah, that bugs me because I am an engineer. NUMB3RS was at least somewhat better, though their math was frequently sketchy (big surprise, right?). At least the husband in Medium was an engineer, and we got a brief look into his work, but mostly, engineers aren't as sexy as doctors or lawyers or cops.
Which is why there has never been (to my knowledge) any dramatic TV series featuring engineers.
I'm a web designer working at an engineering company. For years I have been trying to figure out if I'm a geek working at a company of nerds or a nerd working at a company of geeks.
You do realize that there's actual evidence to back up the Big Bang Theory right? That there's a reason why it's the currently accepted model.
To give an example, all of our observations show that everything in the Universe is moving away from everything else according to some constant (which is constant throughout space, not through time) called the Hubble Constant. This can be observed through red shift
When we take these observations and try to track it back through time what we find is that logically at one point in time everything must have been in the same place before expansion occurred. The "Big Bang Theory" is literally just that there was a singularity and then it expanded outwards resulting in everything we see today. What caused the singularity itself to exist and what caused it to start expanding is still an unsolved question physicists are actively looking into.
There's also the fact that the Big Bang model has been used to come up with reasonably accurate ratios of key elements formed in the initial event prior to the beginning of stellar nucleosynthesis. Not to mention Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.
Ummm ... Lucy? I'm a graduate electrical engineer. I've studied both physics and astronomy during my tenure at Case Tech. I also own BOTH the Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson sets of the Cosmos series. Insofar as I'm concerned, THE BIG BANG THEORY IS FACT (yes, and theory, too!).
Leaving aside for a moment any number of church/state separation issues this brings up, I'd like to take a look at this though a slightly different lens. Specifically, information literacy and how people make decisions about the relative validity of presented data.
This bit about "The Board of Education is arguing that this sort of thing happens all the time. Relax, people, it’s just a few commas here and there," really hit a nerve for me, because at some point those commas change the meaning, as most of us here probably know. That sort of error does appear on Ye Olde CRAAP test (https://guides.lib.uchicago.edu/c.php?g=1241077&p=9082343) and for good reason. At some point, the readers should be asking themselves 'if the creator of this content didn't care enough to get the punctuation/spelling right, why should I think they got the basic facts right?' We're talking about school textbooks here, and they couldn't be bothered to be sure they're teaching correct information to the best of their ability?
Information literacy is real, it matters, and it sure seems to me lately that too many Christians think it's optional. Deliberately failing such a basic metric gives the game away in this case; these textbooks are about forcing religion on kids and nothing else.
At my son’s first school, it was a tiny private school that started with a preschool and wen through elementary grades, it had about 30 kids and three classrooms, I got into a small argument about the math lesson on adding and subtracting money. The books she used and how she taught used a decimal when using the cent sign, and I said there shouldn’t be a decimal with that symbol unless we’re talking about fractions of pennies. She insisted there should be a decimal because when you take away the dollars you have cents with a decimal. But the symbol for cents takes away the need to show the number represent a fraction of the dollar, making the number a whole cent. It was then I had decided to not continue to send my child there and put him in public school sooner than anticipated. I did want to switch at some point, but she made me move up the timeline because of this thinking. If she doesn’t bother teaching this small thing correctly, then what are the bigger things they’re getting wrong.
Honestly, I like the teacher, my kid was thriving and they adjusted well to his unusual needs (being undiagnosed autistic), but he did need the more structured setting of a public school classroom. When he got into a more well funded public school they realized he needed an assessment for autism and more support than the other school provided.
Well, there might be value in this curriculum yet. Districts that do not use the curriculum to actually teach their students can provide the materials for the students to edit. There is some educational benefit to correcting the mistakes of others.
Chock full of errors, shoddy materials, agenda driven lessons, and not rigorous enough for elementary students? Sounds like a Christian version of education. Cue the King of the Hill meme. But of course the Repubelicans in Texas are shoving it through, they’re typical repubelican politicians, get what they want, quality and consent be damned, and the fact that it’s centered around children makes it all the more Repubelican.
Back in college, a friend of mine took an econ course where much of it was trashing a specific econ book. But that's college; 5th graders need the good material taught 'straight' rather than games of find-the-error.
I’m just saying that the poor punctuation could be used as a worksheet to help students learn punctuation. Even the facts that are incorrect could be a lesson on fact checking. But I wouldn’t use it for anything beyond a practical workbook type lesson to get practice in the object of a better lesson on punctuation and fact checking. Not focus on how the curriculum is shite and what not to do.
I would definitely not do that, for several reasons. First, because while you may be using a paragraph or story for a spelling and grammar drill, the students WILL absorb some of the content of what they read. So pick content they should be absorbing rather than sunday school stories. Second, I suspect that the writing might be so terrible that the 'one error' you want them to find might get lost amidst the other bad construction choices lol. Lastly, I don't want schools to subtly communicate "look how badly this religion screws up it's writing" lessons, even if I might personally agree with it. Let's not use political or ideological opponents as punching bags in a public school.
Not surprised this flawed bowing to xtianity has 4000 + errors. After all, that religion's own supposedly inerrant "sacred" text has untold factual errors and contradictions.
Not to mention missing texts and books and passages arranged out of order. Case in point: the passage in Genesis 38 about Judith and Tamar thrown in the middle of the story of Joseph and his technicolor dream coat.
To focus only on the Christian’s magic book lends the impression nothing else was going on in the world, and that isn’t true by a long shot. Here are some unpleasant facts Christians brush aside as unimportant. There are no original copies of the gospels. No one knows who wrote them. Every single copy of the Bible for centuries to come were copied by hand and as Bart Ehrman points out, there are multiple discrepancies between them. There is little to no independent corroboration for the stories of the Old Testament. It cannot be objectively determined that the majority of the people mentioned there ever even existed, much less what they might have actually said. The religious right sees their book as the answer to everything in spite of the fact these people can’t even understand the questions.
My biggie as it comes to this is: The Bible Has NO SECOND SOURCE. It stands by itself, no real corroboration or independent verification.
It might as well be a bunch of fairy stories ... and it is.
There is no definitive evidence Jesus even existed, and no one has any idea what he may have actually said.
Yup ... purdy much. 😝
Are you denying that Jesus existed?
Fucking yes, I am denying that fuckwit existed!
Then, how is it that there is a movement named Christianity today?
Guess that means Zeus is real then. Because there are modern Zeus worshippers.
Same for Odin.
Do you really want to play this game?
How did Odin and Thor have followers?
Just like a movement called Scientology. If there are numerous CONTEMPORARY sources for jeezyboy, then provide non theological sources. Don’t give me that shit about ALL SCHOLARS accept the existence of jeezyboy, if that is true you can provide numerous sources. I DON’T HAVE TO PROVE NON EXISTENCE OF JEEZYBOY!
Christianity is the most factionalized religion on the planet. Nothing else even comes close. This is something that should concern believers far more than it does because it speaks to a divine being who supposedly willed the universe into existence, but when it came to the most important message imaginable, . . . couldn't make himself understood.
You bet your ass I am. No contemporaneous records or eyewitness accounts. Highly questionable accounts from Saul / Paul, some of which are demonstrable forgeries. First actual "historical" records not until 40 years after his putative death. Massive amounts of plagiarizes among the synoptic gospels where they agree and equally massive departures, inclusions and exclusions where they don't. Addenda to some versions of the gospels after the fact.
And most of all, NO INDEPENDENT REPORTAGE, outside of the bible. The "story" of Jesus is a load of hooey and not worth my time or respect, other than for literary value.
But other than that...
... it sucks.
Even as a literary work, it is poorly contrived, written and has so many edits as to be very low grade literature.
I've said it before: the Bhagavad Gita, while just as fictional, is a WAY more fun and engaging read, as is the Mahabharata, which tells an actual STORY.
Denying the existence of someome requires that very someone to actually have existed in order to have something to deny.
As always, there is no evidence the biblical son of god ever existed. There is no evidence that god ever existed either.
Given that we are talking about an itinerant preacher in the boondocks of the Roman Empire, why would you expect there to be all sorts of reportage outside of the Bible if you dismiss Tacitus and Josephus?
Tacitus and Josephus both wrote AFTER THE FACT, and that's an automatic disqualification in my book.
And there were all manner of relatively educated people about Judea during the time your carpenter-turned-rabbi was supposedly preaching and healing. If actual miracles were going on, the attention and concurrent reportage of one sort or another would be all but automatic. Someone would have put SOMETHING down on paper / papyrus / whatever.
And yet they didn't ... because there was no event to record.
This itinerant preacher supposedly resurrected in a way that had many of the dead of Jerusalem rising from their graves.
It is beyond ridiculous to think the Romans would not have recorded a massive zombie uprising. It is frankly beyond ridiculous to believe it really happened, and the only thing stopping you from agreeing to that is the massive and irrational bias you have which causes you to defer to biblical claims even when they say ridiculous things.
Maybe he did or maybe he didn't. The character described in the bible is pure fiction.
Yes. Provide proof he did.
Even as a record of oral traditions, the Bible fails. Look at other cultures that have strong oral traditions, their stories are more consistent and make more sense, even acknowledging that they’re myths or fairytales.
"There is little to no independent corroboration for the stories of the Old Testament."
Oh it's worse than that; there is good evidence Exodus is a flat out fable, developed later. It uses 6th cent. BC names for places instead of their 12th-14th cent. BC names, and (I love this one) at the time it supposedly happened, Egypt controlled the "Canaan" region. So they literally went from Egypt to Egypt lol.
On top of all that, David Fitzgerald's "Playing God" books about attempting to reconcile Biblical fairy tales with verified archeological evidence indicates that north of 90% of the Bible is fiction.
http://davidfitzgerald.org/bio/
There's stupid, then there's 𝑻𝒆𝒙𝒂𝒔 𝑺𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅.¹
(¹ 𝑬𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈'𝒔 𝒃𝒊𝒈𝒈𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒏 𝑻𝒆𝒙𝒂𝒔.²)
(² Including the 𝑺𝒕𝒖𝒑𝒊𝒅.)
Could we have kippers for breakfast?
Smoke me a kipper, I will be back for breakfast! by Arnold “Ace” Rimmer (Red Dwarf)
“Stupid Texas Song”
https://youtu.be/aPvLD7HSUDY?si=3LQ6nM081ZriT8Sm
𝑊ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑎 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑢𝑚 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑠ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑏𝑎𝑙𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒’𝑠 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑏𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑇𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑠 𝑜𝑓𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑠 𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑣𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑜𝑟𝑠.
"We don't care about facts and accuracy, we'll just find someone who we can bend to our will." Texas Board of Education undermining the education of their children in favor of Christian Nazionalist indoctrination. Why am I not surprised?
I like when they only corrected half of the 4,000 errors.
“A 2nd Grade lesson about “Fighting for the Cause” introduced students to “ordinary people who stood up for what they believed in and who fought for a cause, even when faced with immeasurable odds.” That sounded wonderful! The leaders mentioned in the unit included Jackie Robinson, Dolores Huerta, Rosa Parks… and the biblical character Queen Esther.”
Since when is a queen an ordinary person? Even if Esther was ordinary and fought the fight which made her a queen, that is too far afield for 2nd graders to grasp. But looking at the story (per overview on Wikipedia) Esther was already a queen when she fought whatever fight that made her famous. So, she was clearly added just to include a Bible reference and not because she actually fits the purpose of the curriculum.
My question would be pretty simple: does Esther have any recorded existence other than in the bible?
I'm waiting...
My grandmother’s name was Esther. Gotcha, atheist!
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Well, my 4th grade teacher was named Esther, so there! Take that.
You young people!!! someday, you’ll be old. Ha!”
Queen was an ordinary band. ; )
I bet the students do not get to read the whole book of Esther. It's really quite short. Perhaps the 75,000+ murders are irrelevant.
Yes that was a terrible attempt to shoehorn in a bit player.
I see the problem. You thought the purpose of schooling was education. It's not for white fundamentalists. The purpose of schooling for them is indoctrinating the next generation to be anti-science, white supremacist bigots who love white Jesus and white America and hate everyone else.
👆🎯
The Texas BoE want students to answer bible-based questions while I want to ask the Texas BoE (and adult Texans in general) why they keep putting the obscenely corrupt xtian Ken Paxton back in power.
Paxton is clearly their kind of corrupt, just how they like it.
I mean, it's pretty clear that so long as nobody 'impotant' is losing money, they like having the guy around.
This is the kind of ham-fisted BS I've come to expect from those who are trying to inveigle Christianity into secular classrooms. They'll cram their noise in any way they can, and it should be no surprise that they are so anxious to do so that the number of errors in their efforts stack up like cord wood. This doesn't even mention the amount of re-jiggering classroom curricula will need to deal with this new (and unnecessary) material.
We've all said it at one time or another: leave biblical bullshit for Sunday school. THAT is where it belongs.
Even if they manage to fix all the errors due to the rush job, it will still be riddled with errors due to the excessive bible references.
It's the old square-peg-round-hole routine, not that the believers care that it is.
No different than what you see in the likes of Dumb Idiot Ken Ham's writings where everything sentence and paragraph is swamped with Bible verse references in parentheses that points to verses in the Bible that has zero to do with what Dumb Idiot Ham is talking about in his stupid writings.
Correct, the errors are irrelevant. The point is for Christian-veiled propaganda to seep quietly into young developing brains.
The ham-fistedness comes from their authoritarian culture; they value loyalty over competency so much that when given the opportunity to write textbooks, they get loyalists to write it instead of competent writers.
I think this is probably a good thing for us. An own goal on their part. Imagine how much harder it would be for a Principal to decide not to use the free books if those '6 pages of bible story' inserts were all well-written, well-edited, on-grade-level content.
OT: Krusty Gnome getting the boot for MarkWayne Mullen.
Dogkiller replaced by Tommy Tuberville's younger, dumb self.
I just got through watching this
youtu.be/d9RBElivnKA
Both Democrats AND Republicans hated Gnome and called for her to resign. A call which was met with applause from the entire room. Now she's "stepping down" (translation: Trump told her "You're Fired." (tm) )
She deserved all that humiliation and more. She is despicable.
I think she should be tarred and feathered, but humiliation works too!
I'd settle for her arrest and to see her hauled up on charges. If convicted, I want her to rot in prison.
(Yeah, I know. Given who is currently in power, it won't happen. The Dems would have to take both the House and Senate)
I would like the entire regime face charges in American court, and face charges in the International Criminal Court as well!
Even so, the list is so long.
No more cosplay for her. She'll have to get rid of all her costumes, the poor dear.
I'll bet she still got her hands in the till in some way. These grifters get repurposed for more evil in this regime.
She does, trump created a new title for her. She must be a great fluffer. I can think of no other reason to keep her inept, incompetent ass around.
She's moving on to Western Hemisphere command (or something like that).
All I can say is, those guys had better obligate all their funding now, before she starts eyeing new hats.
Yup. Trump has created a brand new position for her: Special Envoy for the Shield of the Americas.
Oh, NOW he' a job creator?
Only for otherwise unemployable lazy MAGAts.
Yeah, but he made a new position for her to drag her boyfriend around while doing.
Long overdue. But she's still in place for the rest of March. I fear what will happen in the meantime. Maybe she goes out in a blaze of homicidal fuckery. Because she is a psychopathic puppy killing bitch.
From what the news says, it likely had to do with her claiming Trump knew about and approved her personal ad campaign, when he didn't. You can lie to the public, you can lie about the public, but you can't lie to the boss or about the boss in a way that makes him look bad.
Also she was probably sleeping with her aide, since Congress repeatedly asked her if she was and she never actually said "no I'm not." Yes, we all know Trump's history, but I'm guessing both he and Miller have a sexist double standard when it comes to cheating.
They absolutely do have a double standard. Elise Stefanik found out that women for trump bootlickers have no inherent value to the gropenfuhrer.
Unless they're at least an 8 or maybe a 7.
People here in Stefanik's district call her "Trump's frump."
I draw the conclusion that Trump probably did know about it and approved it. She was under oath (and her refusal to deny her affair under oath) suggests to me that she wasn’t going to step over that line.
The problem is that ad campaign was getting criticized even by MAGA bootlickers. It was starting to look bad to the wrong people. And if there’s one thing we know about Trump, anything that is his fault is never his fault.
It is more reasonable to think Trump lied when he denied knowing about it — because Trump always lies.
It's been an open secret that she's been boning abuser Lewandoski for years.
"What is it about Lewandowski, what is that je ne sais quoi that Trump craves? He got fired by Trump twice already! Once in June of 2016, a few months after he was arrested and charged with battery for assaulting Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields (charges were later dropped, even though the incident was on video). But Trump summoned him back a month later, right before the GOP convention.
Lewandowski’s greatest hits include when he “womp womp” mocked the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was separated from her mother after crossing the border, showed up on Fox seemingly drunk and slurring his words, and reportedly carried on an affair for years with married South Dakota governor Kristi Noem. (Some People even say he was the one with the genius idea to include that dog-shooting incident in her book.) MAGA singer Joy Villa also accused Lewandowski of repeatedly slapping her ass.
“I said, ‘Watch it.’ Half-joking, I said, ‘I can report you for sexual harassment.’”
“He said, ‘Go ahead, I work in the private sector,’” Villa recalled. “Then he smacks my ass again.”
Oh, and WHILE MARRIED he reportedly bumped bits with the nine-years-younger Hope Hicks, to which Trump remarked, “You're the best piece of tail he'll ever have.” Party of family values!
What it finally took to get Lewandowski let go from official Trump duties was HOLY SHIT details coming out about his (alleged) vile sexual piggery and fucking scary aggression towards Trashelle Odom, a Trump campaign donor’s wife, at a Las Vegas Benihana fundraiser: talking about his dick nonstop over dinner, bragging to her about committing multiple murders, touching her repeatedly, throwing a drink in her face and calling her stupid for rebuffing his advances, eating off of her plate, stalking her to her hotel room … all in front of Odom’s husband, and (married) Lewandowski’s alleged mistress, South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem(!) The Daily Mail got hold of the police report, and it is quite something! Enough to get him canned from the Trump PAC, because there IS a line too far, and that is assaulting a major donor’s wife! Lewandowski was charged with criminal sexual harassment, but got a plea deal that included “impulse control training.”
Wrote Liz Dye, lawyer and psychic, in 2021, “he'll probably get put in time out for ten minutes, then wind up in the inner circle again when Trump thinks nobody's looking. Take that one to the bank.”
https://www.wonkette.com/p/desperate-trump-campaign-brings-back
So both he and Noem broke the golden rule: commit all the moral outrages you want, GOP is fine with that. Endanger donations (Lewandowski) or steal/divert money from our pot (Noem), you're out.
Bondi, YER NEXT!!!
For real:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-says-kristi-noem-stepping-homeland-security-secretary-rcna248719
The guy who's replacing her is as dumb as a box full of hammers – I'm not even American and I know that. I've heard him talk several times. But according to trump hes "highly respected". Yeah right.
He is incredibly dumb but likely a bit smarter than trump who is an absolute fucking idiot.
Mullin is a former MMA fighter who was undefeated. That might sound impressive until you realize that that his bouts were short and his career was very brief (a single year).
Official records show him at 3 - 0, but in his biography, he claims 5 - 0. I'm thinking he padded that record.
Markwayne Mullin brags about being in combat and knowing the smell of war, but he's never served in the military. He's a Stolen Valor type. Mullin was a plumber whose daddy was a plumber that handed his plumbing business to his son.
And he brags about "leading" when Jan 6th happened he is pictured cowering, and panicking, while Jason Crowe and others pitched in.
Dimwitted Mark Wayne Mullin. Who is 1/128th part Cherokee and brags about being the only Indian in the Senate. The Cherokee nation has no blood requirement like other tribes.
Will she lose her flying love nest? How about Corey's dick (or bag of dicks)?
The one she fired her pilot over?
But her blanket was missing................
A lot of poor people in Texas paid taxes for this shit. They should all be hopping mad at the way the BoE is shoveling their tax money into a fiery furnace and openly coercing them into using such shoddy material to "educate" their children.
America First? Wait, WHO exactly is “America”? Imagine hurling insults at mayor Mamdani’s shoveling employment, but clapping for throwing your money straight into the garbage?
Hey, Texas BoE: Riddle me this...
* Why is there no actual documentation of Herod ever issuing a decree to have all the first-born male children aged 2 years and under in Bethlehem and the surrounding area put to death?
* Why is there no actual documentation of Pontius Pilate having a man named Jesus put to death via crucifixion DESPITE the fact that Romans were meticulous record keepers?
Aaaah, the scribe was off that day, probably boinking his secretary! 😖
That's very unfair: asking for evidence from xtians. 😄
Texas lawmakers are definitely a laughable crowd of rapscallions.
Look do we want smart Texans? Just imagine a Cowboys fan that can string more than four words together? Years of disappointment and the vocabulary to express it. They will never shut up.
If we educate them they won’t be Cowboys fans anymore. Problem solved.
Christians can’t shut the fuck up now, even with the limited vocabulary that they have!
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
There are four or five errors right there.
In the Beginning, there was the 𝗕𝗔𝗡𝗚. Then, 9.26 billion years later...
Our whole universe was in a hot dense state
Then nearly 14 billion years ago, expansion started (wait)
The Earth began to cool
The autotrophs began to drool
Neanderthals developed tools
We built a wall (we built the pyramids)
Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery
That all started with the big bang
(Bang!)
Never cared for The Big Bang Theory. I think it trivializes science and engineering, and yeah, that bugs me because I am an engineer. NUMB3RS was at least somewhat better, though their math was frequently sketchy (big surprise, right?). At least the husband in Medium was an engineer, and we got a brief look into his work, but mostly, engineers aren't as sexy as doctors or lawyers or cops.
Which is why there has never been (to my knowledge) any dramatic TV series featuring engineers.
I'm a web designer working at an engineering company. For years I have been trying to figure out if I'm a geek working at a company of nerds or a nerd working at a company of geeks.
Yes. : )
MacGyver (1985 - 1992). Silicon Valley (2014 - 2019). Westworld (2016 - 2022).
American Genius (2015). Greyzone (2018). Chernobyl (2019). Devs (2020).
Apparently, engineers are quite sexy beasts after all. ;)
Stipulated, though HBO's Westworld was a hot mess to me. Chernobyl was brilliant and powerful if tragic, and I never got into MacGyver.
As it comes to real-world, I LOVED MYTHBUSTERS. Some genuine engineering going on there, ESPECIALLY with DUCT TAPE!
If it moves and it shouldn't, use duct tape.
If it doesn't move and it should, use WD-40.
Yes. Yes we are.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4788946/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8566938
Oh, SWELL ... 🤦♂️
https://youtu.be/y055c7qwpT4
You do realize that there's actual evidence to back up the Big Bang Theory right? That there's a reason why it's the currently accepted model.
To give an example, all of our observations show that everything in the Universe is moving away from everything else according to some constant (which is constant throughout space, not through time) called the Hubble Constant. This can be observed through red shift
When we take these observations and try to track it back through time what we find is that logically at one point in time everything must have been in the same place before expansion occurred. The "Big Bang Theory" is literally just that there was a singularity and then it expanded outwards resulting in everything we see today. What caused the singularity itself to exist and what caused it to start expanding is still an unsolved question physicists are actively looking into.
There's also the fact that the Big Bang model has been used to come up with reasonably accurate ratios of key elements formed in the initial event prior to the beginning of stellar nucleosynthesis. Not to mention Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.
Ummm ... Lucy? I'm a graduate electrical engineer. I've studied both physics and astronomy during my tenure at Case Tech. I also own BOTH the Carl Sagan and Neil deGrasse Tyson sets of the Cosmos series. Insofar as I'm concerned, THE BIG BANG THEORY IS FACT (yes, and theory, too!).
It's the television series that I don't care for!
Your original comment to me read like a mockery of the scientific theory.
As for the rest of it, let's just say that I never watched the show and missed the references to it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Just wait until Genesis I and Genesis II start contradicting one another.
And neither line up with the Sega Genesis.
Or the band Genesis.
Or the automotive marque, Genesis.
Leaving aside for a moment any number of church/state separation issues this brings up, I'd like to take a look at this though a slightly different lens. Specifically, information literacy and how people make decisions about the relative validity of presented data.
This bit about "The Board of Education is arguing that this sort of thing happens all the time. Relax, people, it’s just a few commas here and there," really hit a nerve for me, because at some point those commas change the meaning, as most of us here probably know. That sort of error does appear on Ye Olde CRAAP test (https://guides.lib.uchicago.edu/c.php?g=1241077&p=9082343) and for good reason. At some point, the readers should be asking themselves 'if the creator of this content didn't care enough to get the punctuation/spelling right, why should I think they got the basic facts right?' We're talking about school textbooks here, and they couldn't be bothered to be sure they're teaching correct information to the best of their ability?
Information literacy is real, it matters, and it sure seems to me lately that too many Christians think it's optional. Deliberately failing such a basic metric gives the game away in this case; these textbooks are about forcing religion on kids and nothing else.
At my son’s first school, it was a tiny private school that started with a preschool and wen through elementary grades, it had about 30 kids and three classrooms, I got into a small argument about the math lesson on adding and subtracting money. The books she used and how she taught used a decimal when using the cent sign, and I said there shouldn’t be a decimal with that symbol unless we’re talking about fractions of pennies. She insisted there should be a decimal because when you take away the dollars you have cents with a decimal. But the symbol for cents takes away the need to show the number represent a fraction of the dollar, making the number a whole cent. It was then I had decided to not continue to send my child there and put him in public school sooner than anticipated. I did want to switch at some point, but she made me move up the timeline because of this thinking. If she doesn’t bother teaching this small thing correctly, then what are the bigger things they’re getting wrong.
Honestly, I like the teacher, my kid was thriving and they adjusted well to his unusual needs (being undiagnosed autistic), but he did need the more structured setting of a public school classroom. When he got into a more well funded public school they realized he needed an assessment for autism and more support than the other school provided.
Well, there might be value in this curriculum yet. Districts that do not use the curriculum to actually teach their students can provide the materials for the students to edit. There is some educational benefit to correcting the mistakes of others.
Chock full of errors, shoddy materials, agenda driven lessons, and not rigorous enough for elementary students? Sounds like a Christian version of education. Cue the King of the Hill meme. But of course the Repubelicans in Texas are shoving it through, they’re typical repubelican politicians, get what they want, quality and consent be damned, and the fact that it’s centered around children makes it all the more Repubelican.
Back in college, a friend of mine took an econ course where much of it was trashing a specific econ book. But that's college; 5th graders need the good material taught 'straight' rather than games of find-the-error.
I’m just saying that the poor punctuation could be used as a worksheet to help students learn punctuation. Even the facts that are incorrect could be a lesson on fact checking. But I wouldn’t use it for anything beyond a practical workbook type lesson to get practice in the object of a better lesson on punctuation and fact checking. Not focus on how the curriculum is shite and what not to do.
I would definitely not do that, for several reasons. First, because while you may be using a paragraph or story for a spelling and grammar drill, the students WILL absorb some of the content of what they read. So pick content they should be absorbing rather than sunday school stories. Second, I suspect that the writing might be so terrible that the 'one error' you want them to find might get lost amidst the other bad construction choices lol. Lastly, I don't want schools to subtly communicate "look how badly this religion screws up it's writing" lessons, even if I might personally agree with it. Let's not use political or ideological opponents as punching bags in a public school.
Not surprised this flawed bowing to xtianity has 4000 + errors. After all, that religion's own supposedly inerrant "sacred" text has untold factual errors and contradictions.
Not to mention missing texts and books and passages arranged out of order. Case in point: the passage in Genesis 38 about Judith and Tamar thrown in the middle of the story of Joseph and his technicolor dream coat.
Go go go Joseph...