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oraxx's avatar

Shocker! Not! Organized religion has been scamming people since the first person figured out being a holy man was a way easier way to make a living than hunting wild animals with spears. Warren Buffett said he wouldn't give twenty-five dollars for all the Bitcoin on the planet because he simply could not see where the value was. Listen to Warren. No crypto-currency is backed by any government. I will take Warren's financial advice any day before I would listen to a preacher.

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XJC's avatar

If Trump is behind it, you know it's a scam. His stupid Christian followers are easy marks.

"The stupid shall inherit the earth. In crypto." -- Jesus, aka God

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Duke  Stuart's avatar

EXCELLENT

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Warren Buffett, living proof you don’t need to be an evil conman who steals with impunity to get filthy stinking rich.

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oraxx's avatar

Nope! Warren got rich the old fashioned way by doing his homework and picking good companies to invest in.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Exactly. It’s no wonder he is at odds with Shitler’s administration. More billionaires that aren’t insane fascists should speak out for the rule of law.

These stoopid marks buying crypto and looking for fast cash have chosen what they perceive to be the “easy way.” If your cult leader tells you it’s cool, no worries! Laws, how do they work?

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oraxx's avatar

Actually, Warren is the son of a Republican Congressman, which tells you he's a man who thinks for himself.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Interesting.

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oraxx's avatar

Of course Republicans weren't always the goose-stepping facists they are today. Buffett's businesses have a huge footprint here in the burbs of North Dallas where I live.

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XJC's avatar

Chris Christie thought Warren Buffet was an all-you-can-eat diner in Phillipsburg, NJ.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

Okay. Dividends go up when workers' rights and wages are suppressed. Making money in the stock market is NOT "pure" or whatever you think. Money does not appear out of thin air. There is no such thing as "passive income." There is only the stealing of wages. This has gone on for decades. If you're going to invest in the stock market at least invest in ethical companies. Not companies that are outsourcing labor to places like China.

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Sarah Longstaff's avatar

Seriously. I have my copy of Elaine Pagels's book The Origin of Satan all double and triple highlighted now, showing the Christians have been scamming people for 2,000 years.

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Boreal's avatar

Not shocking and not unrelated:

"Trump supporters report higher levels of psychopathy, manipulativeness, callousness, and narcissism"

link to the study in the article.

https://www.psypost.org/trump-supporters-report-higher-levels-of-psychopathy-manipulativeness-callousness-and-narcissism/

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑠 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 — 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑇𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑝’𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑙𝑦 — 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑘𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑛 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑠𝑚, 𝑠𝑜𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑜𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑣𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑡𝑠.

Speaks volumes, don't it?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

VERY interesting. I just passed that on to my gal, who is a social worker. I have little doubt but that she's run onto many such of the Trump viewpoint.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

“Malevolent personality traits.” Oh yes, they have shit tons of that!

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John Smith's avatar

I am not surprised at all!

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

All crypto is a scam. All. Of. Them. When will we finally bring down the hammer on this obvious grift? I know, not until after we’ve dealt with the sherbet pervert. But this is one thing we must deal with once we go on to rebuilding our country. Our current currency is practically worthless already, taking away the only thing that makes it work is a recipe for disaster, and that’s what crypto is. Removing the tangible from currency. It was bad enough when the dollar was untethered from gold, but this goes even further.

It makes sense that religious folks are getting in on the crypto wagon, they’re the same thing. Selling an invisible product that cannot be used until it’s too late to complain. The only reason Trump isn’t already giving them favors is because they weren’t able to steal enough to get his attention before they were caught. Another year and they would have been having dinner at Mar A Lago.

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wreck's avatar

+1 for "sherbet pervert".

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I would love to take credit for coming up with it, but there have been so many folks online who have come up with many many names for him, this was one of those I’ve heard there.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

"sherbet pervert" 🤣

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Well stated, Val.

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Boreal's avatar

"A white paper produced to market the coin said very clearly that Christians were the ̶t̶a̶r̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶r̶k̶e̶t̶:̶ marks."

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

How unoriginal. The gifts* were anything but. With all the christians scammers, Hemant will have material until after his death.

"a low risk, high profit investment."

If you believe that, you are not an investor, you are a prey.

*Translate régalado from Spanish.

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Len Koz's avatar

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time..."

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Boreal's avatar

Not just a scam to ensnare the gullible christstains but dangerous to us all.

The Environmental Impacts of Cryptomining

https://earthjustice.org/feature/cryptocurrency-mining-environmental-impacts

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Wow. I’ve heard of the extraordinary energy requirements of AI, but was completely unaware that crypto was such an energy hog. Good info, Boreal.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

The prices of any electronic parts that can be used to build crypto-mining operations- processors, graphics cards, RAM, and so on- are affected by good 'ol supply and demand, so crypto-bros and their scams are 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 partly responsible (Chump's galaxy-brain tariff antics making up the balance) for the high-and-climbing prices of consumer electronics.

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Tinker's avatar

Oh knows, they were totally environmentally friendly because they didn't do that expensive cryptomining step.

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BL Foster's avatar

They are so sick! 🤮 Which is worse? Fake thieves grift or presidential grift … oh wait, it’s the same target group.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Not so sure these are “fake thieves,” BL. They seem to meet all the critical criteria for authenticity.

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BL Foster's avatar

I am fluent in sarcasm. Sorry you missed it! 😉 I get that a lot.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Forgive my failure to enjoy that cracking sarcasm, BL. I can be slow on the uptake.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Don't feel bad. Sometimes I need a [/s] to get it, too.

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BL Foster's avatar

I am understanding, no worries. 😉

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Linda Bower's avatar

The Lord told me this guy deserves to get punched in the face.

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Die Anyway's avatar

Hey, He told me the same thing. I bet some others here got the same message. Maybe there's something to this after all.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

Or deported to a prison in El Salvador.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

I broke away from the local credit union because of their endorsement with Crypto. PayPal endorses Crypto, too. But I can't break away from it because this is the only way to pay for stuff online as well as get paid online with REAL money rather than worthless Crypto.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Started out doing my banking at US Bank, one of the major financial institutions. This is over 30 years ago, when banks were fairly trustworthy.

When they got “all assholish” with the service charges and bounced check fees, I left for a small credit union.

That was great, for 5 years. Then the credit union started to grow. They bought up another CU and merged. Slowly at first, then quickly, customer care began to suffer. That personal care I craved was no longer available.

So, I left for a different, SMALLER credit union.

Now, 5 years later, that CU has merged with a larger CU.

Finnegan begin again.

The same shit is happening. Grace periods are gone. Personal care reduced to robotic phone calls. Once again, I’m looking for a new, small, CU.

Let’s face it, corporate America sucks. It sucks HARD.

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Ian D's avatar

Takes no prisoners !

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Whitney's avatar

Allow me a moment here.

Customer service is a dying concept. I say this because quite honestly, it costs money that corporations would rather use on shenanigans to increase the price of their stock. The customer is no longer relevant when the price of the stock is what matters to the company; the customer is there to be swindled/conned/scammed until they have no more money to provide the company. The CEO gets rewarded based on stock price, not the value of the company, nor the goals they achieve, nor the current sales figures. It's a disaster in slow motion for the economy, and it's why private equity firms purchase things like hospitals, borrow everything they can in the hospital's name to provide themselves a payday, then sell the hospital which declares bankruptcy then shuts down.* American business is eating itself alive, and no business is immune; we just haven't quite hit the tipping point yet.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1RSou_7StU

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Kay-El's avatar

I did the same Walt. So far my smaller credit union is great, but I’m sleeping with one eye open :D

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wreck's avatar

“Either I misheard God… [or] God is still not done with this project.”

Or maybe there are no gods and you're a sleazy grifter. In any case, the important thing is that tRump's name is all over the Epstein files.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

If Yahweh can be misheard, just how omnipotent is he? Seriously, communication with a deity should, almost by definition, be utterly clear and unambiguous. And yet Regalado thought whatever communication he perceived was not 100% clear.

Seriously problematic.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

And most of these rubes believe the bible is 'inerrant'... their big book has, reportedly, 31,102 verses and was written over 1000 to 1500 years. There is a verse for every possible occasion - many of which are diametrically opposed - a fact not lost on most of these grifters.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Justifying bald faced lies can get tricky sometimes.

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ericc's avatar

God is not done with this project...in the sense that God still has a court case, guilty verdict, and sentencing to mete out. ;)

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

How shocking.

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avis piscivorus's avatar

"... low risk, high profit investment."

Message to the victims of these scammers: You gambled, you lost !

Investments can be either low risk, low profit or high risk, high profit. There ain't no such thing as a low risk, high profit investment.

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Boreal's avatar

The house always wins unless you are donvict trump bankrupting a casino.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I've said it multiple times: bitcoin, whether that specific brand name or the general digital currency thing, has to be the biggest scam I've seen in a long-ass while. Where INDXcoin figures in the whole milieu, I have no idea, but a currency with absolutely NO SUBSTANTIAL FOUNDATION to me is a big honking RED FLAG.

Then you get the Regalados, who want to do the whole Prosperity Gospel trip ... THEIR prosperity, of course. Their congregants? Not so much. The new wrinkle here is dealing in an actual product, especially one whose performance was questionable from the get-go. And now, the whole thing has fallen down around their ankles.

What was it that their boy said about building a house upon the sand?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I remember the first time we saw someone on TV explaining what bitcoins were. DM's and me's was "wut ?". We safely kept away from anything like this afterwards.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

My reaction precisely!

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Did you see Shitler on national television holding what he thought was a bitcoin? 😂😂😂

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Not that I recall. If you have a link, feel free.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I think this is what Walt was referring to

foxbusiness.com/media/trumps-media-company-announces-massive-2b-bitcoin-investment-shares-climb

(scroll down until you come to image of trump hoisting a "bitcoin")

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

You da man, NOGODZ20!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Thank you. One tries. :)

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

*Blink*

I wonder what would be the take of my law and economy teacher.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Sorry, can’t seem to search it up. I know I saw it…I swear. 🤷‍♂️

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NOGODZ20's avatar

It was hilarious because bitcoins are purely digital. No physical form.

Funny how back in June of 2021 when Trump was out of office, he ranted against bitcoin and said that it was "a scam against the dollar' (and if anyone knows about scams...).

That was then, this is now. As of two days ago, Trump Media invested $2 billion dollars in bitcoin. Trump must've forgotten what he said. Again.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

He was agin it, until he figured out how to make money off it.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

It is such a natural direction for Shitler’s lunacy to go. Crypto is as scammy as it gets…as is the POTUS.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

He said if your pants fall down around your ankles and you build a house of sand, verily you will have sand in your butt crack.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Ummm ... yeah ... something like that. 🤪

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Kay-El's avatar

One of my kids once had FOMO about some new coin that was introduced and gaining traction. I asked them not to until they had checked it out or read whatever fine print there might be. Doged a bullet on that one (yes, pun intended)

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NOGODZ20's avatar

The Regaldos sit their smiling stupidly as they fleece the sheep.

What was it Hamlet said? "One may smile, and smile, and be a villain."

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XJC's avatar
3dEdited

The Lloyd taketh and...taketh some more.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

What fun to wake up to this! And I’m still on my 1st cup of coffee, and you’re expecting my usual wit and incisive observations. It’s not fair, Hemant! And the rest of you are no better!

First, crypto— which means hidden, which ought to be a huge tip off right there!!!— is the same kind of scam that religion in general is, but Christianity in particular excels in. Crypto only has value if you believe it has value. It is the ultimate religion and belief system. Money only has value if you believe it has value, but money has thousands of years of culture, history, and law behind it. So there is something besides belief. But we now live in a world where the truth is completely fungible. As Humpty Dumpty observed 150 years ago, “words mean what I say they mean, nothing more and nothing less.”

Second, and a corollary to the first, crypto is an unregulated currency, supported only by avarice and belief. What could possibly go wrong with that? And 300 good Christians fell for the promise of wealth that they didn’t earn. Wealth that they’re not supposed to want. Wealth that only scammers could promise them and scammees could harvest. What could possibly go wrong with an unregulated currency? Especially one where the scammer told people that he didn’t know what he was doing, but that the ultimate crypto, the Christian God, promised him would work. And most hilariously, above all, is the very striking similarity between the promises of crypto and the promises of Christianity. In both cases, you get a gift that you did not earn and cannot verify, with someone else paying the price.

Coincidence? I don’t think so.

There are two levels of corruption here. First, there is the corruption of the divine couple. Were they true believers themselves? Possibly, but I doubt it. Because if they were, they knew they were scamming people. So it’s not merely hypocrisy were talking about here— hypocrisy would be refreshingly honest in this case by comparison — but absolute moral corruption, very much like the child molesting pastors who go on with their behavior for years, despite their fervent belief in the Christian God.But we have at least 300 Christians that are every bit as corrupt, and did not believe what they say they believe.

Third, look on the bright side of this. The scammers absolutely knew their marks. Well I wonder how well they knew themselves, because most criminals don’t want to get caught. But they seem to have announced that they were scammers, and the scammees didn’t seem to care until it was too late.

Fourth, regalo is Spanish for gift, though in this case, I think they’re missing an “r”. Regalado can mean gifted, in the sense of giving a gift, or given away. So, in this case, we have an unregulated currency that has definitely been regalado’d.

I hope the divine couple end up in prison for a long time and are not made the commerce secretaries for the Trump administration. But I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them. I could be rich if I had their kind of morality.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

"regalo is Spanish for gift",

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Copieur 😋

I have a solution to your problem. Start to live on French time, it's 5:30 pm here.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

It’s true, but we have a problem here. As Mark Twain observed about some atrocity or other….

“ it is unAmerican! It is unBritish!

It is French!”

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

I am...

*Count on her fingers*

... 1/2 + 1/8 French adopted !

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

The problem is solved.

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Boreal's avatar

Without a doubt.

https://ibb.co/j9B5sjFC

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Len Koz's avatar

Even that is more honest than cryptocurrency.

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Boreal's avatar

For sure

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