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Troublesh00ter's avatar

The level of dishonesty represented by this effort to use a water project to fund a conservative Christian think tank should embarrass any Christian who actually cares about their faith, never mind people like us who look at such projects and cannot help but think, "Here they go again!" And once again, I find myself reminded of the following:

π‘Šβ„Žπ‘’π‘› π‘Ž π‘Ÿπ‘’π‘™π‘–π‘”π‘–π‘œπ‘› 𝑖𝑠 π‘”π‘œπ‘œπ‘‘, 𝐼 π‘π‘œπ‘›π‘π‘’π‘–π‘£π‘’ 𝑖𝑑 𝑀𝑖𝑙𝑙 π‘ π‘’π‘π‘π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘‘ 𝑖𝑑𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓; π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ π‘€β„Žπ‘’π‘› 𝑖𝑑 π‘‘π‘œπ‘’π‘  π‘›π‘œπ‘‘ π‘ π‘’π‘π‘π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘‘ 𝑖𝑑𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓, π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ πΊπ‘œπ‘‘ π‘‘π‘œπ‘’π‘  π‘›π‘œπ‘‘ π‘π‘Žπ‘Ÿπ‘’ π‘‘π‘œ π‘ π‘’π‘π‘π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘‘ 𝑖𝑑, π‘ π‘œ π‘‘β„Žπ‘Žπ‘‘ 𝑖𝑑𝑠 π‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘“π‘’π‘ π‘ π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘  π‘Žπ‘Ÿπ‘’ π‘œπ‘π‘™π‘–π‘”π‘’π‘‘ π‘‘π‘œ π‘π‘Žπ‘™π‘™ π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿ π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ β„Žπ‘’π‘™π‘ π‘œπ‘“ π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ 𝑐𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑙 π‘π‘œπ‘€π‘’π‘Ÿ, '𝑑𝑖𝑠 π‘Ž 𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛, 𝐼 π‘Žπ‘π‘π‘Ÿπ‘’β„Žπ‘’π‘›π‘‘, π‘œπ‘“ 𝑖𝑑𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑖𝑛𝑔 π‘Ž π‘π‘Žπ‘‘ π‘œπ‘›π‘’.

-- Benjamin Franklin

When some Christian outfit jumps through these kinds of hoops in order to evade scrutiny, the illegality just SCREAMS at me ... and I'm very glad those screams garnered the appropriate attention.

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Joe King's avatar

Can we tattoo the Franklin quote on the foreheads of the idiots responsible?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Not that it would do any good, but sure, why not?

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Vanity Unfair's avatar

Backwards, so they can read it (they can read, can't they?) When they look in a mirror.

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Runfastandwin's avatar

Shame don't enter into it because they are incapable.

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Matri's avatar

Christians call it a β€œTuesday”.

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dammit barry's avatar

jesus is the biggest liar in the universe

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John Smith's avatar

Also don’t forget jeezyboy is the biggest asshole of the multiverse!

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David V. Miller's avatar

Ben Franklin even admitted lighthouses were more useful than churche$.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

He knew bullshit when he saw it.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

That's not an admission. It's a statement of FACT!

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

"level of dishonesty"

Feature, not a bug.

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John P Grundowski's avatar

They took this long to spend COVID funds???

Thier leadership is abysmal-or maybe the pollution situation is too big to cope with.If they try to clean pollution, they bump against "KingCoal".

Hey free housing for teachers/health workers would be a better " investment"- keep theπŸ’²in state.$for propaganda/waste. SAD

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oraxx's avatar
2dEdited

Republicans are only pro-life on one issue, and that concern is mostly about controlling women. They quit caring about the child the minute it's born. They call themselves pro-life but are opposed to universal healthcare, and any kind of meaningful gun control. They never seem to have met a war for corporate profit they didn't love.

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Tinker's avatar

Let's not forget how many of them celebrate executions.

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Joe King's avatar

The SBC (yes, that SBC) actually praised the Roe v Wade decision. They only started the rabid opposition to abortion 5 or so years later, when pushing radcism and segregation became a less viable strategy to accomlish the takeover of what was once the GOP and is now the Fascist party.

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John Smith's avatar

For now, this might be the party to reinstate slavery, or the very least serfdom. The regime will try for return of slavery first, if there is a public backlash of mass portions, then this regime will settle for serfdom.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Dear Leader has already made comments regarding enslaving the Latino and Hispanic communities he’s sending to concentration camps. But that didn’t go over well enough for him so his surrogate clarified that farm workers won’t get amnesty and the Medicare recipients will instead be sent to the fields.

So, slavery didn’t play, but serfdom will, with the implication that it will likely be children doing the hard labor. And since they’ve already been undermining child labor laws, and the education system, they are ready to exploit our children.

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John Smith's avatar

That is worrisome and scary, we (non-magas) must continue to give pushback and point out the hypocrisy of the regime.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Arkansas already has. Florida failed to vote on the child-slavery bill so it will have to wait until the next session. DeathSantis really wanted it.

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Linda Bower's avatar

πŸ’―

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, they started this shit in my lifetime, so much for "traditional long-held beliefs." It was all about racism at it's roots, since they could no longer openly segregate their schools, they needed another issue to get their bigots to the voting booths, so they lied about abortion and it worked. Mostly because the bigots could not mind their own business.

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Linda Bower's avatar

Indeed. Also, enforced childbirth is a form of slavery. Having immigrants pick your strawberries for pennies as well. Who’s going to work the fields now? Probably children as workers rights continue to decline.

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oraxx's avatar

Oh yes. I should have mentioned that. They solidly support the death penalty.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

The vast majority of the people celebrating, and purchasing merch related to, Alligator Auschwitz are the most rabid Pro-Life (not ever, not even close) proponents. Putting paid to the lie they are advocating for the value of life.

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oraxx's avatar

I haven't seen that but it's unsurprising. Republicans pander to the preachers and view human decency as a character flaw.

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John Smith's avatar

The Republican Party also pander to the most base and cruel elements of their redneck base. The more this regime cause the β€œother” to suffer; the more the redneck base will support the regime (until its policies affect them).

Hilary Clinton called them β€œdeplorables”. I think she was being generous and elevating the redneck up two levels.

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oraxx's avatar

They are the people easiest to manipulate. Republicans, of course, could not possibly care less about them and will make their lives worse given the chance.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

Wait until Musk has his way with his America Party. He's been consulting with Curtis Yarvin. Hint: it has nothing to do with preserving democracy.

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Charles Newman's avatar

"his America Party" Agreed, Musk a pure MAGA cultists is making the United States the one and only American country, ignoring the 34 other ones. Embarrassing and sad.

God Bless America?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I suspect Musk thinks he can out-Trump Trump ... and with his money, he might just do it.

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oraxx's avatar
18hEdited

Musk is on record saying democracy is obsolete, and all the country’s decision making needs to be turned over to people like him. People who never gave up on feudalism.

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Tinker's avatar

I look back at the backlash she received from that characterization and realized at that point there was no winning with the fascist crowd. We go low, they go lower, we go high, they go lower still. 'Deplorables' was incredibly mild compared to every other word from the orange Musalini.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

They're not even pro-life on the one issue they call themselves pro-life 𝘧𝘰𝘳. They're perfectly happy to watch a doomed pregnancy plant both fetus and mother in the same early grave, as long as it prevented an abortion- that's their only concern.

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oraxx's avatar

Yup! Their so-called morality is very one dimensional, and they are among the world’s best hypocrites.

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Matri's avatar

They’re the best at what they do.

And what they do is Evil.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

πŸ‘†πŸŽ―

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Linda Bower's avatar

Having such a narrow view of β€œlife” limited to embryos/fetuses (who can’t talk back to you or challenge you) is LAZY at best and a low effort way to go about praising yourself for β€œprotecting life” and good deeds. Bravo β€œpro-lifers” πŸ‘

Their only goal is to indoctrinate that baby as it takes its first breath and add more sheep to the herd.

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Matri's avatar

The pedophile priests need a constant supply of fresh meat.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And their rich republican enablers.

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dammit barry's avatar

Medicaid cuts prove those worrds.

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oraxx's avatar

Stripping millions of America's poorest citizens of their healthcare to fund tax cuts for billionaires is a declaration of moral bankruptcy on the part of Republicans.

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John Smith's avatar

The republicans haven’t had morals since 1960’s.

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John P Grundowski's avatar

They can cherry pick which social support gets them the best"return" on their investment.Short term windfall,as those that need help will cause more social strife for the middle class.Upward mobility(education,career,housing)was very bad before- this just makes that unattainable.THANKS

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Ian D's avatar

It's in their DNA to privatise anything and everything that makes profit at the expense of US citizens.

It could also be argued that the fact that the US has no national healthcare service for all US citizens means that the US in essence, is not a first world country and that such a status is just another US myth.

Concerning Abortion specifically, it's a valid argument that every pregnancy is a potential citizen and should be given the utmost respect and that women be provided with health care support which includes fully funded federal, state, and business maternity leave and child care.

The other myth that's bigger than big foot, is lack of money/funding for such health services. BS, the money and more is always there, one just look at what federal and state money is thrown at when it suits them. Also tax the rich because they will still be rich.

For a so-called astute capitalist nation, how wilfully stupid can the US be. Health care, maternity leave, funded child care and funding for overall education, is a big bloody investment that pays off in the short and long term. πŸ€”

Its bettet than compound interest.

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John P Grundowski's avatar

Healthcare is a necessary part of infrastructure::why corporations won't pay their fair share(while they use the lions share)is a joke. Companies used to be a healthy part of society,now they pillage and profit on every aspect of life. Thanks

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Anti-abortionists are "pro-life?"

*Dr. David Gunn, murdered March 10th, 1993 in Pensacola, FL

*Dr. John Baynard Britton and clinic volunteer James H. Barrett, both murdered July 29th, 1994 in Pensacola

*Receptionists Shannon Lowney and Leanne Nichols, both murdered December 30th, 1994 in Brookline, MA

*Security guard and police officer Robert Sanderson, murdered January 29th, 1998 in Birmingham, AL

*Dr. Barnett Slepian, murdered October 3rd, 1998 in Amherst, NY

*Dr. George Tiller, murdered May 31st, 2009 in Wichita, KS

*Officer Garrett Swasey, murdered November 27th, 2015 in Colorado Springs, CO along with Jennifer Markovsky and Ke'arre Marcell Stewart, who were just accompanying their friend to a PPC

This is an incomplete list of women's pro-choice supporters who were killed by "Good Christians" who allegedly love life.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

The accurate term is: Pro-Forced-Birth."

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NOGODZ20's avatar

That's why I put "pro-life" in quotation marks. Christian pro-life is an outright lie.

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dammit barry's avatar

Okay, lady. You had the id. Our responsibility here has ended. Need formula or diapers Not our problem Baby is sick? Too bad. Try praying real hrd.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

UK yahoo. "From 1977 to 2020 in America, anti-abortion activists committed at least 11 murders, 26 attempted murders, 956 threats of harm or death, 624 stalking incidents and four kidnappings, according to data collected by the National Abortion Federation. They have bombed 42 abortion clinics, set 194 on fire, attempted to bomb or burn an additional 104 and made 667 bomb threats."

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/anti-abortion-movement-killed-people-094505241.html?

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Mommadillo's avatar

I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m sick and tired of special privileges for religious people.

I’m a citizen and a taxpayer, and I’m entitled to representation too. I also have objections to some of the things my taxes go for. Where the heck is MY consideration?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

To the Christians in any sort of authority in West Virginia (or any other state, for that matter)...

Keep the hands you use to pray out of the pockets of the public.

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Charles Newman's avatar

Tax the Churches! Frank Zappa -1980

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

West Virginia and its citizens are struggling with a number of social and economic problems (substance abuse, limited employment opportunities, a declining population, poverty, limited access to healthcare facilities - especially miners who made their living in the coal mines and now suffer from Black Lung disease). How blind do the elected representatives of this state have to be to see that this grant money could have served a much better, if not higher purpose?

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Oh, but it π˜₯π˜ͺπ˜₯ serve a higher purpose- the exact purpose for which it was truly intended. 𝘊𝘰𝘳𝘳𝘢𝘱𝘡π˜ͺ𝘰𝘯. As long as there's an ounce of grift-gravy left to be squeezed out of that blighted state, the vultures will keep picking over its corpse.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

True. And sad.

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Charles Newman's avatar

"West Virginia" Is a serious Bible Belt State. It's on the bottom in education and with excessive poverty. Many hills and towns littered with abandoned buildings and houses.

Not difficult to find a large Jesus cross on top of a hill, they are everywhere in he countryside.

In general the countryside is beautiful in the fall when tree leaves are turning colors.

God Bless West Virginia?

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dammit barry's avatar

Obviousy, gawd did bless them with poverty, illiteracy and gawd only knows whqat else.

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John Smith's avatar

Goddyboy blessed West Virginia with inbreeding, fucking barnyard animals, and an abundance of roadkill. I almost forgot goddyboy blessed West Virginia also with disease, because the Christian nationalist rednecks refused to get vaccinated.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

From your description, West Virginia is most definitely not β€œAlmost Heaven.”

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Country roads, Let’s-a go

It’s-a me,β€…Mario

Mushroom Kingdom, mama mia

Take me home, Mario

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John P Grundowski's avatar

Totally agree = they exported $ for propaganda?? Corrupt πŸ’±πŸ€‘πŸ’²

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Boreal's avatar

When the first con man met the first gullible rube, religion was invented.

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Boreal's avatar

The College of St. Joseph the Worker building looks like a dump. Almost like a money laundering or tax evasion scheme...................................................................

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

You can scratch almost. I went to a legitimate trade high school (secretarial, accounting, cooking, waitressing, laundry, auto and boat mechanic, and others).

The facilities were not a small building stuck like this. I don't see how they can build a campus big enough for their claims with most of the money diverted elsewhere. And which secondary campus ? From what I see, there isn't even a primary one. The building in the photo may not be big enough for the administrative offices.

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Boreal's avatar

Same here. I attended a similar trade/vocational school before college and it was a major sized campus.

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larry parker's avatar

The greenhouse at my tech school was bigger than their building.

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Matri's avatar

The toilets at my secondary school was bigger.

And more functional.

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larry parker's avatar

Way back in navy bootcamp, I got assigned to the Educational Building for a week of grunt work. Besides sweeping the floors and dumping the trash I had several heads to keep clean. One of them was huge. Down one wall were 20 chest to floor size urinals. About half as many toilet stalls on the other side. The funny thing is there was only 5 or 6 people that ever used that restroom.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

So it's just like every other private religious "school," then.

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Kay-El's avatar

I hearby rename the school as College of St. Joseph the Wanker since they were trying to pull a fast one.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

St. Joseph in the Catholic Church is, among other things, the patron saint of a happy death. That is, a peaceful and holy death.

If the RCC is for a peaceful death then why do they oppose people's right to die to avoid a very unpeaceful and pain-filled unholy death?

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

According to the Ghoul of Calcutta, a holy death requires a great deal of pain, in order to be closer to Jesus. So, that’s why the church is against death with dignity.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

That standard, of course, only applies to the laity. Clergymen- and sufficiently sadistic, high-ranking penguins- are evidently close enough to Jesus already; 𝘡𝘩𝘦𝘺 can have the high-test happy-pills 𝘸π˜ͺ𝘡𝘩𝘰𝘢𝘡 upsetting the boss upstairs.

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Kay-El's avatar

Obviously because many of us are sinners and deserve the pain.

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dammit barry's avatar

I do not sin. Sin is a cudgel used by religion to pound hatreds into the hearts of its followers. Sin is used to separate and divide people. The church has always been an us versus "them" tribe You re either with us, or you are our enemy.

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Kay-El's avatar

πŸ’―

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larry parker's avatar

A stroke of genius.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Takes giving someone a hand to a new level.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

May it grow big.

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

But let's hope things don't get too sticky.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Can see good things bursting forth.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

My new patron saint!

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dammit barry's avatar

their god does ALL wanking. NO others are lklowed any pleasure. New galaxies are constantly created as each load of god-splooge becomes a new galaxy. And you thought no good comes from god watching kids being raped. /s

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BL Foster's avatar

Good! Abortions should be a woman’s decision alone, a medical choice in conjunction with her Dr. period!

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avis piscivorus's avatar

"Dr. Period"

Appropriate name for an ob-gyn.

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Len Koz's avatar

I once went to a urologist named Dr. Peter Stone about my kidney stones...

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

In junior high, the most hated PE teacher (ex military) was Mr Champion.

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BL Foster's avatar

Oooops. Didn’t do that on purpose! 🀣

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avis piscivorus's avatar

I know, it was just too funny to ignore.

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BL Foster's avatar

When I try to be funny, I think I’m hilarious (others, not so much). When I’m accidentally funny it’s always funnier! 🀣🀣🀣

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BL Foster's avatar

Glad you enjoyed! 🀣

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avis piscivorus's avatar

Now that the lemon test no longer exists, the appeals court will decide that this grant is fully acceptable when you apply the orange test.

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Joe King's avatar

Best case scenario is the appeals court will say affirm the lower court on the unconstitutionality of the grant, but will say that the cash doesn't have to be returned since the Church/school already has it.

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Kay-El's avatar

I saw that as orange zest at first. It works too.

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avis piscivorus's avatar

𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭: Whatever the orange man "thinks" is profitable for him will pass the test, anything else will fail.

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Joe King's avatar

$1,000,000 π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿ β€œπ‘Žπ‘‘π‘£π‘œπ‘π‘Žπ‘π‘¦ π‘Žπ‘π‘‘π‘–π‘£π‘–π‘‘π‘–π‘’π‘ .” π‘†π‘π‘’π‘π‘–π‘“π‘–π‘π‘Žπ‘™π‘™π‘¦, π‘‘β„Žπ‘’π‘¦ 𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑑 π‘‘π‘œ 𝑒π‘₯π‘π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ π‘–π‘›π‘‘π‘œ π‘π‘–π‘œπ‘’π‘‘β„Žπ‘–π‘π‘  ($250,000) π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ β„Žπ‘œπ‘π‘’ π‘‘π‘œ 𝑏𝑒𝑖𝑙𝑑 π‘Ž π‘Ÿπ‘’π‘ π‘’π‘Žπ‘Ÿπ‘β„Ž π‘“π‘Žπ‘π‘–π‘™π‘–π‘‘π‘¦ π‘π‘Žπ‘™π‘™π‘’π‘‘ β€œπΆπ‘’π‘›π‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿ π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿ π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ πΆπ‘œπ‘šπ‘šπ‘œπ‘› πΊπ‘œπ‘œπ‘‘β€ 𝑖𝑛 π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘‘π‘’π‘Ÿ π‘‘π‘œ β€œπ‘ π‘’π‘π‘π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘‘ π‘π‘Ÿπ‘œπ‘Žπ‘‘π‘™π‘¦ 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒-π‘Žπ‘“π‘“π‘–π‘Ÿπ‘šπ‘–π‘›π‘” π‘π‘œπ‘™π‘–π‘π‘¦ 𝑖𝑛 π‘Šπ‘’π‘ π‘‘ π‘‰π‘–π‘Ÿπ‘”π‘–π‘›π‘–π‘Žβ€ ($750,000).

That doesn't sound like water development to me. I am glad that the funding was declared constitutional, but now we need a corruption investigation into who the hell thought that giving water infrastructure funds to a barely established Catholic school outside The $5M is a drop in the bucket for the RCC.

So, who in the WDA has the connections to the school? Was it just a mistaken idiot who at first thought "building project, we have building project money"? Was it (more likely) someone connected to both who saw the big slush pile and thought, "why not"? Did they know it was inappropriate, or did they just not think about that, because WV conservative forced-birther? Did they get a cut?

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Joan the Dork's avatar

"Bioethics" in this context can only mean more anti-abortion, anti-trans, anti-bodily-autonomy-in-general bullshit to crap up the airwaves with- in other words, the exact 𝘰𝘱𝘱𝘰𝘴π˜ͺ𝘡𝘦 of anything ethical.

And "water development" in this context I must therefore assume to mean the piss they intended to take on the Constitution and the taxpayers of West Virginia.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

πŸ‘†πŸŽ―πŸ‘πŸ‘

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I agree that a thorough examination of the mechanics of this deal deserves to be made, both to understand just HOW it happened and to make clear to the participants that such behavior will NOT be tolerated in the future.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

OT - Sen. Angela Paxton files for divorce from Attorney General Ken Paxton, citing "Biblical grounds!"

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/angela-paxton-divorce-texas-attorney-general-ken/

"Biblical grounds?" What YOU been up to, Kenny???

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Boreal's avatar
1dEdited

Did he wear cloth made from more than one type of fiber? or eat shrimp?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Who DOESN'T these days???

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Nudists?

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dammit barry's avatar

Hassidim, for one.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

One 𝘩𝘒𝘳π˜₯𝘭𝘺 needs to cite bible verses to justify not wanting to be around Ken Paxton.

The better question is... what kind of person would want to marry Ken Paxton in the first place?

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Indeed ... just WHO drove WHOM away here?πŸ€”

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Mr.E's avatar

guessing they are talking about a affair, that is the only valid reason according to the bible.

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larry parker's avatar

No need to guess. From the link: "In her divorce filing, Senator Paxton alleged that her husband had committed adultery, listing it as the "grounds for divorce." "

And it's not the first time.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

No, it is not. didn't he get someone in the gov't to hire his girlfriend?

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

Or a pool boy.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

That's a scam, not a school. The gym at my high school was bigger than this and it was on the small side. The only way it can accommodate 5 different trades is to have 5 students at most for each. Memories from tech class from 6th to 9th grade. There was only 5 drills available at the back of the class.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Didn't Jesus tell believers who wanted something to gather in groups of 2 or 3 and pray to God in Jesus' name to get it? Guess xtians realized THAT didn't work and got tired of grumbling "His will be done" when nothing happened.

The "power" of prayer, everyone.

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Joe King's avatar

Prayer works wonders when the prayer you make is asking forgiveness after your blatant theft.

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Ian D's avatar

Off topic for a moment. More children killed and other serverly injured due to air strikes in Gaza.

All approved by moral vacuums in Washington Tel Aviv.

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