Time and again, the Christalibani demonstrate that it is THEY who are the terrorists.
Imagine their reaction if they were told that THEY didn't have the same rights as others. Bible thumpers are the first to scream whenever they are even mildly inconvenienced.
It’s almost as if Christian nationalism is a political ideology that seeks to merge religious and national identities rather than a Christian faith practice.
Not only do some Christians think this is a Christian nation, they think that no one else of any other belief system (and likely LACK of a belief system!) is worthy to be a US citizen with rights conferred by the Constitution. They think they can take an entire group of people and render them personae non gratae, by means pseudo-legal and extra-legal.
And it doesn't necessarily end here. Anyone of any alternative belief system could wind up in their target reticle and for no other reason than that THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN. This crap needs to be stopped and I mean YESTERDAY.
I cannot remember a time when Republicans weren’t targeting one group or another. Spreading hate and division is far easier than putting forward policies people actually support. Should they run out of Muslims to hate, they will simply move on to the next group who ever they might be. I live in the burbs of north Dallas and I see Muslims all the time. The guys with Confederate flags on their jacked up pickups worry me a whole lot more.
These fuckwads are eventually going to push so far that the backlash will result in outright hostility to their Christianity too. And no one will give a fuck about them or their cries of persecution.
It's not even racism, really. It's outright bigotry, aimed at anyone who isn't THEM. This is yet another case of "othering" a minority, to make them less than human and therefore fit for discrimination and worse.
Once again, it's not the Muslims we need to worry about. It's the Nat-Cs.
Islamophobia is a potentially fatal yet easily treatable mental illness. Those folks should consult with licensed mental health care professionals, the lives they save will be their own.
Does that mean I am doing something wrong when I talk with my co-workes borned in the middle east? And even worse, I gave them some of my grape leaves. They talked about making dolmes and I said "Hey, I got hundreds of grape leaves in my garden. You want some?".
So they're planning on regulating religious marriage tribunals? I think that the Catholic bishops in the state and around the country will have something to say about that. After all, the Catholic Church runs canon law courts the determine the validity of marriages and whether somebody is allowed to remarry after a divorce. And what about all of the beit din that operate in this country dealing with Jewish divorces and the possibility of remarriage? And let's not get into all of the "Christian" groups (including churches themselves) seeking to apply "Biblical principles" to agreements that then get presented to family courts in divorce cases -- often much more beneficial to the adulterous husband seeking to marry a younger woman than it is to the wife who's going to end up raising the children.
These morons are biting off more than they can chew if they try to involve themselves in this area, even setting aside the Constitutional issues.
Muslims should have the right to practice their religion freely without the harassment that Texas is planning. The sticking point is Sharia law. Several aspects of it including punishment for apostasy are clearly in conflict with our constitutional system. How do we address that?
No Muslim in the US is trying to enact Sharia, which by the way means law, illustrating how uninformed people spread propaganda. "Sharia law" is a nonsensical, pleonasmic, culture war term.
Provide specific examples of how Sharia is challenging our constitutional system.
Considering how you can find references to "Sharia law" made by Muslims itself, I don't think that it's a nonsensical concept to them. I'm not saying that it is a challenge yet. I'm simply saying that we should be planning to address it if it should become a concern.
It's absolutely nonsensical and poses no threat to us whatsoever.
Instead of chasing strawmen, this could be a chance for you to actually learn from the commentariat here and grow as a person, yet you persist in remaining ignorant and obtuse of reality. It doesn't ever occur to you that your assertions are ridiculous, even when dozens of people with critical thinking skills tell you so and point out why with supporting evidence.
It may seem nonsensical to you now but that may change in the future as there are more Muslims in the United States who may be associated with extremist varieties of their faith. I don't see Muslims in our nation as a threat now and I know Muslim and have friends. I just think that it's something we should at least be thinking about without going down the same path as they are in Texas.
It seems nonsensical because it's the sect of your cult, that you belong to, conservative xtians, that are the threat. Conservative xtians ARE the problem.
Muslims didn't overturn Roe V. Wade, muslims aren't trying to marginalize people of color or deport immigrants. Muslims aren't trying to take away the rights of LGBT people.
Your willful ignorance is beyond appalling and sad.
I'm not saying that we have an issue today with American Muslims. I'm simply saying that we should be ready to address it if that changes as it has in other nations like the UK.
Because no Muslim I know of in any leadership role or with power is actively trying to force their beliefs onto me? No need to be fearful of something that is nonexistent. What’s the saying?
You should be more worried about what we are seeing here, in this very article: discrimination against non-christians. WTF are you doing to combat that?
In the past I have mentioned things I have been done and been ridiculed in this forum or been told that I was lying. I'm not interested in going through the same thing again.
You are such a baby (sorry). You are getting distracted and completely missing the real threat right under your nose. Until you are ready to remove your propaganda glasses, I can’t have a worthwhile conversation with you. Good luck on your journey of f**k around and find out.
It's like someone mentions Christian Nationalism to a Christian Nationalist, and their response is: "But what about the Muslims and Sharia?" I have actually seen that happen, and it amounts to a poor attempt to distract from what the Nat-Cs are doing, out in the open.
How do we address that? By recognizing that Muslims are not proselytizing their religion in the US in the way that they have in the UK and elsewhere. It's Cornyn and others like him who are all bent out of shape about Sharia which is not happening here, or at least not that I know of.
And if it WERE to actually happen, depend on spoiled-brat Christians to be the first to scream bloody murder. 😝
Okay ... just HOW do you propose to "address those issues?" We already have laws at the local, state, and federal level to deal with everything from jaywalking to sedition. Why would we need to invoke a special case for Muslims?
I don't have the competence to address those issues. I'm simply pointing out that there are issues like punishment for apostasy which are part of Sharia Law which need to be addressed. The general issue is to what degree religious practices can trump (no pun intended) constitutional provisions.
But we've got Christian churches in this country that include punishment for apostasy. When a church requires that a family should a member who has "strayed from the true faith", isn't that every bit as much in conflict with our constitutional system?
As far as I know, the courts have decided that religious groups can shun members who leave. However, I don't believe that they allow these groups to physically punish them.
Time and again, the Christalibani demonstrate that it is THEY who are the terrorists.
Imagine their reaction if they were told that THEY didn't have the same rights as others. Bible thumpers are the first to scream whenever they are even mildly inconvenienced.
While I have no love for any of the Abrahamic religions, it isn't Muslims trying to force their religion down our throats.
Truly why we need more atheists in leadership roles to manage this terrible religious psychosis situation.
Like, “I have no skin in this game, so please trust me when I say we have decades of work and unlearning to do here. Hope you make it out alive!”
Does you happen to know if Islam has something similar to the 10 Cs?
It’s almost as if Christian nationalism is a political ideology that seeks to merge religious and national identities rather than a Christian faith practice.
Hmmm ... Linda, I THINK you may be onto something! 😁
😂 Each day is so hard to get through
…ALMOST….
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From what I see and read about UnUSA you are not wrong.
Not only do some Christians think this is a Christian nation, they think that no one else of any other belief system (and likely LACK of a belief system!) is worthy to be a US citizen with rights conferred by the Constitution. They think they can take an entire group of people and render them personae non gratae, by means pseudo-legal and extra-legal.
And it doesn't necessarily end here. Anyone of any alternative belief system could wind up in their target reticle and for no other reason than that THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN. This crap needs to be stopped and I mean YESTERDAY.
Not just not Christian, not the correct type of Christian. But they always forget that part.
I cannot remember a time when Republicans weren’t targeting one group or another. Spreading hate and division is far easier than putting forward policies people actually support. Should they run out of Muslims to hate, they will simply move on to the next group who ever they might be. I live in the burbs of north Dallas and I see Muslims all the time. The guys with Confederate flags on their jacked up pickups worry me a whole lot more.
That would worry me too.
One guess*. Is the guy with the Confederate flag on his truck a Democrat or Republican?
* actually it's not a guess.
Surely you meant to say a Republican or a commie traitor.
My delusion is better than your delusion!!!
It is pure racism.
These fuckwads are eventually going to push so far that the backlash will result in outright hostility to their Christianity too. And no one will give a fuck about them or their cries of persecution.
I haven't for a while now.
It's not even racism, really. It's outright bigotry, aimed at anyone who isn't THEM. This is yet another case of "othering" a minority, to make them less than human and therefore fit for discrimination and worse.
Once again, it's not the Muslims we need to worry about. It's the Nat-Cs.
Islamophobia is a potentially fatal yet easily treatable mental illness. Those folks should consult with licensed mental health care professionals, the lives they save will be their own.
Typical conservative behavior, find a disempowered group of people and tell everyone, "Those people are why bad things happen!"
Does that mean I am doing something wrong when I talk with my co-workes borned in the middle east? And even worse, I gave them some of my grape leaves. They talked about making dolmes and I said "Hey, I got hundreds of grape leaves in my garden. You want some?".
So they're planning on regulating religious marriage tribunals? I think that the Catholic bishops in the state and around the country will have something to say about that. After all, the Catholic Church runs canon law courts the determine the validity of marriages and whether somebody is allowed to remarry after a divorce. And what about all of the beit din that operate in this country dealing with Jewish divorces and the possibility of remarriage? And let's not get into all of the "Christian" groups (including churches themselves) seeking to apply "Biblical principles" to agreements that then get presented to family courts in divorce cases -- often much more beneficial to the adulterous husband seeking to marry a younger woman than it is to the wife who's going to end up raising the children.
These morons are biting off more than they can chew if they try to involve themselves in this area, even setting aside the Constitutional issues.
OT:
MrCheesusChrist is back on yesterdays post. And yes, he's being a moron.
Glad I blocked him. Why hasn't he been kicked off yet?
Hemant needs to see a detailed email.
The Nannybot will hide a message with a joke "threat" but not one that demonizes the people here. It's useless.
I've been chill about him up until now, but if he continues to be a pest, I got a dime in my pocket and nothing else to do with it.
His latest mouthing is the most recent standalone on yesterday's article.
Let's see if he turns up here.
Maybe he'll show up tomorrow.
The People of the Book (Abrahamic religions) are Jews, Christians, Muslims.
The point that these white nationalist christians thrive on outgroup hatred is spot on!
Muslims should have the right to practice their religion freely without the harassment that Texas is planning. The sticking point is Sharia law. Several aspects of it including punishment for apostasy are clearly in conflict with our constitutional system. How do we address that?
No Muslim in the US is trying to enact Sharia, which by the way means law, illustrating how uninformed people spread propaganda. "Sharia law" is a nonsensical, pleonasmic, culture war term.
Provide specific examples of how Sharia is challenging our constitutional system.
Considering how you can find references to "Sharia law" made by Muslims itself, I don't think that it's a nonsensical concept to them. I'm not saying that it is a challenge yet. I'm simply saying that we should be planning to address it if it should become a concern.
It's absolutely nonsensical and poses no threat to us whatsoever.
Instead of chasing strawmen, this could be a chance for you to actually learn from the commentariat here and grow as a person, yet you persist in remaining ignorant and obtuse of reality. It doesn't ever occur to you that your assertions are ridiculous, even when dozens of people with critical thinking skills tell you so and point out why with supporting evidence.
David loves to prove Mrs. Gump's theorem.
It may seem nonsensical to you now but that may change in the future as there are more Muslims in the United States who may be associated with extremist varieties of their faith. I don't see Muslims in our nation as a threat now and I know Muslim and have friends. I just think that it's something we should at least be thinking about without going down the same path as they are in Texas.
It seems nonsensical because it's the sect of your cult, that you belong to, conservative xtians, that are the threat. Conservative xtians ARE the problem.
Muslims didn't overturn Roe V. Wade, muslims aren't trying to marginalize people of color or deport immigrants. Muslims aren't trying to take away the rights of LGBT people.
Your willful ignorance is beyond appalling and sad.
I'm not saying that we have an issue today with American Muslims. I'm simply saying that we should be ready to address it if that changes as it has in other nations like the UK.
What about focusing first on Christian nationalist law which is actively in conflict with our constitution, thanks. Have a good day.
Why not focus on both? It doesn't have to be either/or.
Because no Muslim I know of in any leadership role or with power is actively trying to force their beliefs onto me? No need to be fearful of something that is nonexistent. What’s the saying?
"worrying means you suffer twice”
Why wait given what we have seen in other nations?
You should be more worried about what we are seeing here, in this very article: discrimination against non-christians. WTF are you doing to combat that?
In the past I have mentioned things I have been done and been ridiculed in this forum or been told that I was lying. I'm not interested in going through the same thing again.
You are such a baby (sorry). You are getting distracted and completely missing the real threat right under your nose. Until you are ready to remove your propaganda glasses, I can’t have a worthwhile conversation with you. Good luck on your journey of f**k around and find out.
It's like someone mentions Christian Nationalism to a Christian Nationalist, and their response is: "But what about the Muslims and Sharia?" I have actually seen that happen, and it amounts to a poor attempt to distract from what the Nat-Cs are doing, out in the open.
I think that it should be obvious from comments I've made in the past that I do see WCNs as a real threat.
How do we address that? By recognizing that Muslims are not proselytizing their religion in the US in the way that they have in the UK and elsewhere. It's Cornyn and others like him who are all bent out of shape about Sharia which is not happening here, or at least not that I know of.
And if it WERE to actually happen, depend on spoiled-brat Christians to be the first to scream bloody murder. 😝
If we do not want to go down the same path as the UK, then doesn't it make sense to address those issues now than later?
Oh, in other words, arrest them BEFORE they do something? Seriously, David???
Where did you get that from my comment?
Okay ... just HOW do you propose to "address those issues?" We already have laws at the local, state, and federal level to deal with everything from jaywalking to sedition. Why would we need to invoke a special case for Muslims?
I don't have the competence to address those issues. I'm simply pointing out that there are issues like punishment for apostasy which are part of Sharia Law which need to be addressed. The general issue is to what degree religious practices can trump (no pun intended) constitutional provisions.
But we've got Christian churches in this country that include punishment for apostasy. When a church requires that a family should a member who has "strayed from the true faith", isn't that every bit as much in conflict with our constitutional system?
As far as I know, the courts have decided that religious groups can shun members who leave. However, I don't believe that they allow these groups to physically punish them.