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Boreal's avatar

I am shocked that a 'christian curriculum' would be filled with factual inaccuracies, disinformation and other assorted anti-intellectual garbage.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

I tend to tell people who suggest that I make my satire / sarcasm clearer...

"As soon as I can imagine Swift, Twain or Vonnegut needing to explain their satirical ideas with little pictures and the like, I will as well." (Thurber came closest, but did it well.)

Ed Buckner's avatar

Boreal *seems* to be just that little tiny bit sarcastic here!

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Now WHY would you go and say something like that??? 😉

RegularJoe's avatar

....gambling is going on in here!

Joe King's avatar

You dropped your /s tag.

Kathlyn's avatar

Yes, it’s gob-smacking news, isn’t it? *clutches pearls in horror* who could have ever guessed?

Lynn Veit's avatar

I am shocked, SHOCKED that there is mendacity going on in Christian publishing establishments!

larry parker's avatar

Just staying true to the source material.

Old Tired Teacher's avatar

If it's a “Christian” curriculum it's inaccurate by default.

The Epistler's avatar

Me too, but then I'm very naïve.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

𝐿𝑦𝑛𝑐ℎ 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛’𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝐵𝑙𝑢𝑒𝑏𝑜𝑛𝑛𝑒𝑡’𝑠 𝐵𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑜𝑛𝑠.

Ummm ... WHY??? Something as important as the source material for children's learning should damned well have been vetted LONG before the school year started. Errors like that massive faux pas about Houston would have been caught and called on in faculty review, rather than allowing that crap and other mistakes to go in front of students.

This incident reflect plain and simple LAZINESS on the part of the Montezuma-Cortez School District. Where were the supposed adults in the room when this happened and why did it happen at all?

Bananies's avatar

I am a retired public school teacher. At a school board meeting in my last district, I remember they were discussing adopting a new Math series for K-8. After being questioned by some of the community members on why he was recommending adoption, one of the board members went off on a rant that it wasn’t his responsibility to understand the curriculum, that was the teachers’ job. All he had to do was agree or disagree with the Superintendent’s recommendation.

If you don’t understand the curriculum, how can you know what you are agreeing to? I’m not saying you have to understand all the Math, I’m saying you have to understand best educational practices and the instructional principles necessary for a well developed Math curriculum. If you’re on a school board and you are not even willing to do that…you need to get off the board…you are educationally negligent.

Brianna Amore's avatar

Seems a lot of board members just use that job as a stepping stone into politics.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Thank you for your comment. Damned well put! 👍👍👍

nora noneofyourdamnbusines's avatar

There are seven Board members. Each of them should have tackled a different section of the curriculum to determine whether or not it would meet Colorado standards. Principals should have been involved in the process. As you say, laziness is behind the debacle.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

The only problem with your proposal is that it makes sense! 🤪

Brian's avatar

That would necessitate that the board members have some expertise in both teaching and the area of the curriculum they are scrutinising.

That's so far from being a given on US school boards that it is rarer than a hen's tooth.

Brianna Amore's avatar

No wonder that district is struggling if their administrators are that lazy.

Argus Von Blargus's avatar

Oooo...I know. Umm...he's really bad at his job and should resign.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Awww, you peeked, didn't you? 🤣🤣🤣

jane hay's avatar

What do you want to bet that a lot of the board members were fine with it till there was overwhelming public outcry...

Troublesh00ter's avatar

That would jive with the old politician's saw: When in doubt, do NOTHING.

oraxx's avatar

The religious right has long seen their religion as the solution to all the world’s problems, and blame their own failures on a lack of ‘true’ Christianity, what ever that is. If Christianity was going to solve the world’s problems they would have accomplished it long ago. Christianity has created at least as many problems that it ever solved.

NOGODZ20's avatar

We're supposed to wait for a dead guy who promised to return within some of his followers lifetimes to make everything all better? Xtians never hear themselves.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

And that promise was SUPPOSED to be fulfilled not quite 2,000 years ago! WTAF???

Stephen Brady's avatar

Well, they tried to fix that in the subsequent 3 gospels... Matthew was the most accurate from the viewpoint of Jewish christians, but Luke and John are back to the nonsense in Mark except for when Jeebus would return.

oraxx's avatar

No, they do not.

Len Koz's avatar

Was the 2,000-year-old man one of his followers? Because he's still around.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Impossible. He's only 100.

Len's avatar

Well, seeing as his followers have eternal life, he can come back any time he wants and it’s still OK.

NOGODZ20's avatar

They only get to be immortal after they die. Oops! :)

Len's avatar

They live, they die, they live again (forever). He wasn’t specific about which lifetime he meant (weasel words TM).

Troublesh00ter's avatar

I've said it before and will repeat: Christian Nationalists do NOT promote Christianity to solve problems. They do so with the final goal of PUTTING THEMSELVES IN CHARGE.

Trojan Horses such as this BS-soaked curriculum are designed to get their foot in the door. Time to SLAM that door on their tootsies!

Stephen Brady's avatar

The camel got its nose under the edge of the tent in Texas and almost got its butt under the edge of the tent in Colorado... With Christian Nationalism ascendant now, I am beginning to doubt if we are a Nation, any more.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

For people that invented heaven and hell, this waschild’s play.

Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

The Texas curriculum made the remarkable improvements because Texas lowered its standards, not because the schools found a better way of teaching.

The problem is that the Colorado district superintendent was looking for a miracle cure rather than investing in the district. This comes down to capitalism running our schools, ROI over actual outcomes. We have a serious problem with the Republican policies that intentionally defund education and demand higher performance on standardized tests and this requires those in charge to do more with less. They look at charter schools and those who run charter schools for the miracle, but the way charter schools perform better is only by selecting their students. Not by any actual improvement on teaching standards or lessons.

Throw in the forceful adoption of AI in every nook and cranny of our lives, there’s going to be issues. It’s cheaper now to include AI curriculum, but wait a couple years when the tech bros start on the next phase and require expensive subscriptions for services we no longer can opt out of.

Commodifying our education system bit by bit has been happening for a few decades now, probably longer (Reagan, most likely), and these are the results you get. Too bad our children will pay the highest price.

Linda's avatar

I’m back, and even though nature (typical Icelandic weather) decided only eclipse day would be rainy/cloudy (flanked by clear sunny days on either side), it was still an amazing experience! AWEsome in fact. It made me very emotional.

Stepping away from this shit show, I feel more confident than ever that the USA is in a complete hysterical episode of religious psychosis. It’s unsustainable and unacceptable. Thank you ✨

Linda's avatar

Thank you. I am very lucky

Troublesh00ter's avatar

And we're glad you're back!

XJC's avatar

Trump threatens to bomb Iceland if Oman interferes with opening the Strait of Hormuz.

Lynn Veit's avatar

Another step right into a courtroom in the Hague.

If that ever happens, I hope NATO immediately sides with Iceland and lands on this unhinged maladministration and does some badass neutralizing.

Maltnothops's avatar

I’m sorry you had clouds.

Linda's avatar

Yeah bummer. I accepted this the night before praying to the sun gods. We were in a small remote fishing village. We climbed a mountain and hung by a waterfall and I have to say even with the view blocked by clouds, I was not prepared for the sudden experience (how cold and dark it got; how disoriented and insignificant I felt) and how I could see the sun setting outside the path in a crack very very far away. Iceland is great for unobstructed views and untouched land.

Maltnothops's avatar

Iceland is on my travel list. I saw the two most recent total eclipses in the US. The first felt like a seminal experience. The phrase I’ve settled on is the dark felt like a huge physical object falling out of the sky.

Keep trying!

Linda's avatar

I’m already talking Morocco 🇲🇦 2027 over 5 min long totality 😂

We did have a two week trip which was incredible. My first time in Westfjords which is desolate and the roads are treacherous. I’m lucky to be alive right now 😂

Maltnothops's avatar

We want to go to Spain, Portugal, and Morocco. Let me check the calendar!

Troublesh00ter's avatar

From a friend of the gang:

"Now, that the Bible heavy stuff didn’t become part of the school curriculum, how long do you think it will take for the Christians to issue death threats to those on the school board that voted to remove the Bible heavy stuff? Christians always seem to go to violence when they don’t get their way. This is what happens when religion takes over!"

NOGODZ20's avatar

"Religion of Love," donchaknow?

Boreal's avatar

I think we can count on that.

NOGODZ20's avatar

To repeat what I said when I saw Hemant's video on this yesterday: Not everything is better with Blue Bonnet on it.

Religion and public education need to be kept as far apart as possible. The only value relgion could possibly have in the classroom is as a record of brutality from the earliest ritual human sacrifice to the latest child suicide bomber.

Maltnothops's avatar

Well, it could be an example of fawlty logic.

larry parker's avatar

"Lynch said he doesn’t know if Bluebonnet is evidence-based or how well it matches Colorado standards.

Lynch also said he didn’t have enough information to form an opinion about Bluebonnet’s Biblically infused lessons."

Then why did you vote for it, Bozo?

NOGODZ20's avatar

Sounds like Lynch is a-lyin.'

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Noooooo! Now WHY would he do THAT???

Effectively, Lynch bought a pig in a poke, and then when the poke was opened, he was stunned to discover that it was full of shit. TEXAS shit, at that!

Old Man Shadow's avatar

You know, At least back when I got indoctrinated in Baptist school, other than YEC and history being Lost Cause mythology, I got a good English and Math and geography education. Yeah, history and science were useless bullshit, but the rest was solid.

Today's Christian indoctrinators don't even care about that basic criteria. They don't care about these kids at all. They're actively setting them up to fail in life.

Maltnothops's avatar

My education in grades 6-8 were …. unique. I attended a 2 room Lutheran school. Grades K-4 in one room with one teacher and 5-8 in the other room with one teacher. About 3-4 kids per grade. Except for me. I was the only kid in my grade. The teacher quickly figured out I was brighter than average and just rolled me into the grade above me. Which meant I had 8th grade with nothing to do. I pretty much read books all day.

Lynn Veit's avatar

Where they would be vulnerable to predatory at-will hiring practices and paid peanuts.

Joe King's avatar

𝑀𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑧𝑢𝑚𝑎-𝐶𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑒𝑧 𝑅𝐸-1 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑢𝑚 𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑙𝑠 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠 𝑠𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑏𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑎𝑐𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑐 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛.

𝑂𝑢𝑟 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑢𝑚 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑣𝑒ℎ𝑖𝑐𝑙𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛.

As it should be. Religious instruction belongs in church, not school.

NOGODZ20's avatar

Exactly. Let them keep their foolish lies "in-house."

Bensnewlogin's avatar

So the people in charge of vetting didn’t vet a thing. And then they were surprised that the garbage they were passing out was garbage.

When I was in the school of education at Northwestern— yet another useless degree, but this time with a gold border on it— we had a saying:

If you can’t do anything else, teach.’

If you can’t do that, teach teachers to teach.

And if you can’t do that, become a consultant.

Still true, 52 years later. But since we’re talkin’ MAGAtry here, they just had to make it not only worse, or worserester. Throw in some bible crap, don’t bother to vet any of it, be too damned lazy even to look at it, and collect your fees.

Wherever christian nationalism enters the windows, any pretense at critical thinking ducks out the back door.

Maltnothops's avatar

The version I know is if you can’t do, teach. If you can’t teach, teach phys ed. If you can’t teach PE, administrate.

Lynn Veit's avatar

If normally smart people can't handle teaching, that's because it's one of the toughest jobs on the planet. To do it well, you have to be fully invested - your time, your energy, your psychological resilience, your willingness to give up evenings and sometimes weekends...I lasted three years, and when I finally got out, I was completely drained.

I salute those in the teaching field who do well while still managing to have a life and still be sane. You all are superheroes.

Maltnothops's avatar

I taught for one year in my early 20s. About 3 weeks in I knew I had made the wrong career choice.

Kay-El's avatar

My sister taught elementary grades 3-5 for over 30 years. It definitely was challenging! She retired last year, well earned for all she had to put up with: bad principals, crazy parents, nasty students – and she was in a top notch public school. But she loved what she did and those students willing to learn loved her.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

Teach PE? Is that like sex education?

larry parker's avatar

Sort of. You should stretch before both.

Bensnewlogin's avatar

But I am strong like bull!

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

That is of course, bullshit. Two of my friends couldn't handle teaching and went on to do a law degree instead. Maybe I should have followed the same route, but I really needed the money. And to be honest, I didn't find it that difficult. :)

John pauli's avatar

Teachers are made to create lessons if they are given adequate materials to start with. Of course this superintendent was all about charter schools and religion. Go ahead and yell it, the superintendent is a MAGA.

Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Many many years ago, a New Zealand government decided that education would be "Free, Secular, and Compulsory." Quite proud of that. Of course every time there is a neoliberal government, private and religious schools get more money, but on the whole you can safely send your kids to the local primary or high school knowing that they will probably get a reasonably decent education. There are those who send their kids to Christian schools because they want them to have a "religious education", by which they mean of course religious instruction – because there ain't no such thing as a religious education. Not in the sense they mean anyway.

Joan the Dork's avatar

If you're gonna pick a state to emulate to improve your school district, maybe next time pick one of the ones at the top of the education rankings, instead of one that's in the faltering middle of the pack and seemingly vying for last? Seems like it should be an obvious bit of advice that oughtn't need be said at all, but here we are. Texas is not a state anyone should be looking to emulate right now, in 𝘢𝘯𝘺 aspect of public policy.

Die Anyway's avatar

Just think how bad it was in Texas that the Blue Bonnet curriculum was an improvement. 😵‍💫

Another Texas Teacher's avatar

It's not an improvement. Nobody thinks it is an improvement. Half of Texas's legislators don't know what they are voting for. The other half are actively trying to destroy public education. It's working.

Whitney's avatar

I've said many times that AI isn't ready to actually be put to use yet, despite what the advertising will claim. From my view, the errors are only half the problem; the more serious issue with AI as it currently stands it that 𝑖𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑔𝑢𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑢𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑔.

AIs are currently trained to always bow to the wishes of the human they are interacting with, no matter what. That isn't intelligence, that's catering to blind spots, whims, and delusions. Humans need to be told no when they are wrong, not indulged in some flight of fancy for the sake of making money. Christians tend to be somewhat untethered to the reality of certain situations, and AI won't change that because at the end of the day, it's intended to kowtow to those very fantasies.

Kay-El's avatar

This kind of dumb ass shit is why intelligent, caring people need to run for school boards. Otherwise you get people like the story mentions or Moms for Liberty.