"They saw the verse they liked and they ran with it. "
Isn't this pretty always the case with Christians? I suspect it is the root cause of why the staggering number of Christian denominations exists. The God who intervened to save the most grotesquely immoral President in our history, sat out the Holocaust, never stopped a school shooting, and never prevented a member of the clergy from raping a child. I'm less than impressed with God's priorities. Definitely not a god I could ever worship.
No, I wouldn't worship such a god even if it were definitely proven to exist. (No evidence that any such being ever has existed.) Accept it as real--yes. Debase myself--nope.
A man who speaks blasphemies. The man of sin. A liar whose father is the devil the father of lies. Who speaks arrogant words and seeks to persecute the least of these, whom Jesus identified as his brothers and sisters. Who has survived a head wound...
I mean, come on... none of you Evangelicals see that?
Hulk Hogan apparently reprised his WWE persona to hype up Trump. The only reason I know about this is because someone made a meme (I can’t find it in a format I can post here) with him tearing his shirt over the image of the Terry Crews character doing a similar hype up from either Idiocracy or Don’t Look Up.
Anyway, the RNC is more than just a shit show in Milwaukee.
It was in my newspaper this morning. He sported a TRUMP VANCE MAGA t-shirt. Willing to bet that rag wasn't made in America.
I started watching Hogan's nearly 10-minute appearance but couldn't stomach it for more than a minute. If he doesn't think his "hero" is going to body slam the US if he gets put back in the White House, then those steroids he popped like candy did a bigger number on him than I thought.
That chemistry shrinks brain tissue function, too.
Just look at big time juicer MTG, Although I bet she could sport pretty good wood , because it seems to grow clitoral tissue. (I've had a few ladies on T to brag, and do "show and tell".)
I saw that Hulk was there in my morning NY Times feed. Double-UGH. Hard to believe there was a time when I enjoyed watching him wrestle. Now he's just a bad joke that no one with any brains laughs at.
Yeah, he went from being the good guy as a wrestler to the villain in wrestling to an actual villain in real life. He took his character way too seriously. He’s been caught in some profoundly racists rants before this too. Yuck.
When he helped Peter Theil sue Gawker, he was dead to me. Anyone who helps Peter (I don't like democracy so I'll crush it" Theil should be ejected from the planet.
I have vivid memories of seeing Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, walking into the Linthicum, Maryland Holiday Inn, several decades ago, as I was heading out for dinner. Man was HUGE, had to be over 6'7", easily.
I know it's not in keeping with symbolic nonsense of 6:11, but I believe it is instructive, Matthew 5:45, "He gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good and he sends rain down on the just and the unjust too."
That is, just because you have a miraculous escape from death, that does not mean that God has kept you safe because of all the good work you are doing. A brush with death is a reminder that we are all mortal and you may want to stop all the evil things you are doing.
Well, you’ve got the “45”. Now we just need an explanation for the 5.
Let’s see…. Number of abortions he has paid for? Nah, too low. Number of children he is known to have? True but … look at them. Meh. Number of terms he wants to serve as president? Too old.
I’m sure it will be revealed to us when we are ready to understand and discern the true meaning.
It never fails to amaze (and amuse) me how much some Christians will go to any lengths to take a number or sequence of numbers and try to explain how Yahweh somehow wanted THOSE NUMBERS to mean something. It rather a form of numeric pareidolia ... and it's foolish and juvenile and mostly a desperate attempt by them to show others how active their god is in their lives.
Of course, it shows up the most when the shit hits the fan, as it did the other day when poor Donnie got shot at, and naturally, his s̵h̵e̵e̵p̵ followers wanted to try to give some meaning to the event, so they come up with a verse out of their favorite holy book. Honestly at this point, I don't know whether to laugh or shrug my shoulders at all of this.
The ONE thing I wish I could do is ignore him and them ... but the way things are going right now, none of us can afford that.
"So, you say that Trump was saved by divine intervention."
"Yes."
"The literal god of all creation literally reached his hand down from on high and literally prevented that bullet from turning Trump's brain into chunky salsa."
"Yes."
"Because Trump is the man who the god of all creation chose to become our next President."
"Yes, that's right! Now you're getting it!"
"Just to be clear, we're talking about Donald J Trump. Former President, famous for his cruelty, his inhospitality, his disloyalty, mendacity, greed, avarice, lust, gluttony, pride, and every other sin you care to name? The one who admitted on tape to stealing top secret documents then turned around and denied it in the news? Who bragged about committing sexual assault- again, on tape- and creeping on teenage girls in a beauty contest dressing room? Who sent an angry mob to overthrow the government when he lost the last election?"
A convicted felon who is the antithesis of everything Jesus allegedly stood for. Just the kind of man that Jesus would choose to save to do his will in a country that did not exist when he was "walking the earth."
He also hates the same people his MAGAts do. The large majority believes ONLY Straight White And Male Protestants have rights. ALL others are totally under the control of SWAMPers.
They want so badly to prove to the rest of us that he’s the chosen one, they will do anything to convince us. The problem is that they’re using the Bible to do it. Here’s why it’s not gonna work for them:
*The Bible isn’t convincing to large swathes of people (not everyone is a part of their little book club)
*Those who do believe the Bible are never on the same page about what any given verse really means
*The same group of folks using the Bible now to convince us of Trump’s divinity have been using the same tactics to bully and abuse people they don’t like — turning any decent person, believer or not, away from trusting them with Bible verses
*This is all arbitrary as Hemant said in the article
I’m sure there are more, feel free to add your own.
If I had a nickel for every time I had to listen to an hour of preaching about this 'putting on the full armor of God' nonsense, I'd never need to work again.
Truth be told, this is exactly the sort of too often quoted verse that worries me when next November rolls around. Nobody puts on armor unless they expect a fight, and as bad as January 6th was, I expect this round to be worse. I hope I'm wrong, I really want to be wrong. I'm terrified that if Trump loses, his MAGA supporters won't be able to accept that and will stage a far more serious attempt at forcibly overturning the election results. To be clear, 𝑰 𝒏𝒐 𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒓 𝒆𝒙𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒐𝒓 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝑹𝒆𝒑𝒖𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒚 𝒐𝒓 𝒊𝒕𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒑𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒔.
Trump is a convicted felon at this point. There is zero reason to allow him to run at all in my opinion, and yet, here we are. The same crowd that demands politicians be 'tough on crime!!!11!!!' are going to vote for a felon who will commit crimes in the future if given the opportunity. I weep for the future of the United States.
I have a theory about why he was wounded and it doesn't involve a sky faerie at all or verses from some book. The shooter was not a person trained in dealing out death. Therefore the odds of missing were not low.
Ahhh. Ok. I missed that piece of information. What would he have learned at a gun club? I admit ignorance in this aspect. The only exposure I have ever had to guns is my father was an RCMP officer (so some kind of tactical training, so I guess that's where my brain went with 'training') and hunting of water fowl and big game where I am (deer, elk, moose etc.) Also not from the US..
Well, the two things at the first meeting were; never carry a loaded firearm and never point a firearm at anybody. But then actually getting your hands on a firearm in the UK is, in itself, very difficult.
My thoughts exactly. I had not made that connection before. I was too busy trying to picture the creature and missed the bit about the 7 heads being 7 hills until I read this.
Look up "Dominionism" and/or "Christian Reconstructionism" and the "Seven Mountains" strategy that Rushdoony proposed. Quoting from The Gospel Coalition:
Which just about covers every facet of human life ... and should be utterly unacceptable in this day and age, yet it is virtually encoded into Project 2025.
If you hang out here you should know that FA doesn't 'christian bash' he bashes everyone and anyone that acts stupid/crazy and/or says stupid/crazy things. He is very 'equal opportunity' in that respect. He bashes dumb atheists too. But sadly, the christian nationalists are such low hanging fruit. Not to mention, they are the #1 biggest threat to American democracy atm.
I try hard these days to not associate with Christians even though I was one . Yah. The cult of Christianity gotta love it. Good on paper not in reality. There are good Christians. Those Christians who live and let live. But I am definetly bonkers.
"They saw the verse they liked and they ran with it. "
Isn't this pretty always the case with Christians? I suspect it is the root cause of why the staggering number of Christian denominations exists. The God who intervened to save the most grotesquely immoral President in our history, sat out the Holocaust, never stopped a school shooting, and never prevented a member of the clergy from raping a child. I'm less than impressed with God's priorities. Definitely not a god I could ever worship.
No, I wouldn't worship such a god even if it were definitely proven to exist. (No evidence that any such being ever has existed.) Accept it as real--yes. Debase myself--nope.
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It won't let me up-vote, so I do this instead.
Well said. And Trump is not a candidate anyone should vote for, either.
I mean Revelation 13:2-4 is right there.
A man who speaks blasphemies. The man of sin. A liar whose father is the devil the father of lies. Who speaks arrogant words and seeks to persecute the least of these, whom Jesus identified as his brothers and sisters. Who has survived a head wound...
I mean, come on... none of you Evangelicals see that?
It'd be nice (at minimum!) if they COULD see that, but all they see is Their Messiah™, and he can do no wrong.
Should mention, I missed his acceptance speech last night and probably just as well ... UGH! 😝
Hulk Hogan apparently reprised his WWE persona to hype up Trump. The only reason I know about this is because someone made a meme (I can’t find it in a format I can post here) with him tearing his shirt over the image of the Terry Crews character doing a similar hype up from either Idiocracy or Don’t Look Up.
Anyway, the RNC is more than just a shit show in Milwaukee.
It was in my newspaper this morning. He sported a TRUMP VANCE MAGA t-shirt. Willing to bet that rag wasn't made in America.
I started watching Hogan's nearly 10-minute appearance but couldn't stomach it for more than a minute. If he doesn't think his "hero" is going to body slam the US if he gets put back in the White House, then those steroids he popped like candy did a bigger number on him than I thought.
That chemistry shrinks brain tissue function, too.
Just look at big time juicer MTG, Although I bet she could sport pretty good wood , because it seems to grow clitoral tissue. (I've had a few ladies on T to brag, and do "show and tell".)
I saw that Hulk was there in my morning NY Times feed. Double-UGH. Hard to believe there was a time when I enjoyed watching him wrestle. Now he's just a bad joke that no one with any brains laughs at.
Yeah, he went from being the good guy as a wrestler to the villain in wrestling to an actual villain in real life. He took his character way too seriously. He’s been caught in some profoundly racists rants before this too. Yuck.
When he helped Peter Theil sue Gawker, he was dead to me. Anyone who helps Peter (I don't like democracy so I'll crush it" Theil should be ejected from the planet.
I crossed paths with him twice.
I have vivid memories of seeing Greg "The Hammer" Valentine, walking into the Linthicum, Maryland Holiday Inn, several decades ago, as I was heading out for dinner. Man was HUGE, had to be over 6'7", easily.
Met and talked with "Bret 'The Hitman' Hart. Nice guy.
My friends and I hung out with him at an Ace Frehley show in a club in NYC some years back.
Screenshot and https://fr.imgbb.com/ ?
Whoa, nice tool! [bookmarked!] Thanks!
Ça fait des mois que je poste des images avec 🤣🤣🤣
I didn't see any images it was just an ad in French. So how come you can see it and I can't?
Do you mean today ?
I only posted the link to the website.
I've watched only a few seconds here and there. Then I had to either change the channel or smash something.
I hear you. [WHEW!] I thought the crap he laid down in 2016 was bad! Yuk ... TOOEY!
The crap has only gotten infinitely more rank.
I'm not a masochist, no way I was going to watch that cat's anus mouth of his, babble incoherently!
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see?
“More than
378,000
students have experienced gun violence at school since Columbine.” (Washington Post.) God hates them all. Obviously.
First you're appalled by the number, and then you think, "Is that all?"
Suffer the little children......¹
(¹ ...also the big ones.)
They aren’t as Christian as he is. (Sarcasm)
I know it's not in keeping with symbolic nonsense of 6:11, but I believe it is instructive, Matthew 5:45, "He gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good and he sends rain down on the just and the unjust too."
That is, just because you have a miraculous escape from death, that does not mean that God has kept you safe because of all the good work you are doing. A brush with death is a reminder that we are all mortal and you may want to stop all the evil things you are doing.
Well, you’ve got the “45”. Now we just need an explanation for the 5.
Let’s see…. Number of abortions he has paid for? Nah, too low. Number of children he is known to have? True but … look at them. Meh. Number of terms he wants to serve as president? Too old.
I’m sure it will be revealed to us when we are ready to understand and discern the true meaning.
I'll add 'God saving OrangeTraitorTot' to my very long list of reasons to be an Athiest
TraitorTot. Hahahahaha. I love it!
It never fails to amaze (and amuse) me how much some Christians will go to any lengths to take a number or sequence of numbers and try to explain how Yahweh somehow wanted THOSE NUMBERS to mean something. It rather a form of numeric pareidolia ... and it's foolish and juvenile and mostly a desperate attempt by them to show others how active their god is in their lives.
Of course, it shows up the most when the shit hits the fan, as it did the other day when poor Donnie got shot at, and naturally, his s̵h̵e̵e̵p̵ followers wanted to try to give some meaning to the event, so they come up with a verse out of their favorite holy book. Honestly at this point, I don't know whether to laugh or shrug my shoulders at all of this.
The ONE thing I wish I could do is ignore him and them ... but the way things are going right now, none of us can afford that.
A true miracle would never be apparent - their god would keep the shooter away from the rally.
Or intervened when this disturbed young man needed help the most. Tragic.
"explain how Yahweh somehow wanted THOSE NUMBERS to mean something"
And only after something happens, never before.
Shhhhh! They all have super secret decoder rings to tell them what all those numbers mean.
Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
"The ONE thing I wish I could do is ignore him."
Poison to a malignant narcissist. Will never happen in today's social media-ridden world.
Truly an Idiocracy.
Until Donald Trump is no longer a threat to this country, I can't see any way I can afford NOT to ignore him. Forewarned is STILL forearmed.
Rikers Island, with no internet access. 🤞
"So, you say that Trump was saved by divine intervention."
"Yes."
"The literal god of all creation literally reached his hand down from on high and literally prevented that bullet from turning Trump's brain into chunky salsa."
"Yes."
"Because Trump is the man who the god of all creation chose to become our next President."
"Yes, that's right! Now you're getting it!"
"Just to be clear, we're talking about Donald J Trump. Former President, famous for his cruelty, his inhospitality, his disloyalty, mendacity, greed, avarice, lust, gluttony, pride, and every other sin you care to name? The one who admitted on tape to stealing top secret documents then turned around and denied it in the news? Who bragged about committing sexual assault- again, on tape- and creeping on teenage girls in a beauty contest dressing room? Who sent an angry mob to overthrow the government when he lost the last election?"
"...yessss?"
"And you want me to 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 this god of yours?"
Worshiping tRump makes as much sense as worshiping their god with those same character flaws.
Their god has given them blanket immunity to facts.
A convicted felon who is the antithesis of everything Jesus allegedly stood for. Just the kind of man that Jesus would choose to save to do his will in a country that did not exist when he was "walking the earth."
He also hates the same people his MAGAts do. The large majority believes ONLY Straight White And Male Protestants have rights. ALL others are totally under the control of SWAMPers.
Cirrho... I mean Cyrus.
It was the Kurgan setting up the Gathering.
They want so badly to prove to the rest of us that he’s the chosen one, they will do anything to convince us. The problem is that they’re using the Bible to do it. Here’s why it’s not gonna work for them:
*The Bible isn’t convincing to large swathes of people (not everyone is a part of their little book club)
*Those who do believe the Bible are never on the same page about what any given verse really means
*The same group of folks using the Bible now to convince us of Trump’s divinity have been using the same tactics to bully and abuse people they don’t like — turning any decent person, believer or not, away from trusting them with Bible verses
*This is all arbitrary as Hemant said in the article
I’m sure there are more, feel free to add your own.
If I had a nickel for every time I had to listen to an hour of preaching about this 'putting on the full armor of God' nonsense, I'd never need to work again.
Truth be told, this is exactly the sort of too often quoted verse that worries me when next November rolls around. Nobody puts on armor unless they expect a fight, and as bad as January 6th was, I expect this round to be worse. I hope I'm wrong, I really want to be wrong. I'm terrified that if Trump loses, his MAGA supporters won't be able to accept that and will stage a far more serious attempt at forcibly overturning the election results. To be clear, 𝑰 𝒏𝒐 𝒍𝒐𝒏𝒈𝒆𝒓 𝒆𝒙𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒃𝒍𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒐𝒓 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒖𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒕 𝑹𝒆𝒑𝒖𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒑𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒚 𝒐𝒓 𝒊𝒕𝒔 𝒔𝒖𝒑𝒑𝒐𝒓𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒔.
Trump is a convicted felon at this point. There is zero reason to allow him to run at all in my opinion, and yet, here we are. The same crowd that demands politicians be 'tough on crime!!!11!!!' are going to vote for a felon who will commit crimes in the future if given the opportunity. I weep for the future of the United States.
If they didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
About the ONLY standard they currently have is smooching Trump's nelly at every opportunity. 😝
Brain bleach!!! STAT!!!
There’s the difference between you and me: I NEVER expected reasonable behaviour from current Republicans and their supporters.
And they still let me down.
The cherry pickers have gone pro.
Gone pro? They've been making money at it at least since Constantine.
They are establishing leagues now.
I have a theory about why he was wounded and it doesn't involve a sky faerie at all or verses from some book. The shooter was not a person trained in dealing out death. Therefore the odds of missing were not low.
Technically, he was trained; he belonged to a gun club and went there fairly often.
However he did not make it onto either the JV or V shooting team in HS, so evidently he just wasn't very good at it.
Ahhh. Ok. I missed that piece of information. What would he have learned at a gun club? I admit ignorance in this aspect. The only exposure I have ever had to guns is my father was an RCMP officer (so some kind of tactical training, so I guess that's where my brain went with 'training') and hunting of water fowl and big game where I am (deer, elk, moose etc.) Also not from the US..
Well, the two things at the first meeting were; never carry a loaded firearm and never point a firearm at anybody. But then actually getting your hands on a firearm in the UK is, in itself, very difficult.
Also sounds like his shot was rushed.
Wrong weapon for sniping at that distance, and obviously the wrong shooter.
True.
Try showing them this: https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
"Seven tall hills?" That anything like the Seven Mountains strategy that R. J. Rushdoony proposed?
My thoughts exactly. I had not made that connection before. I was too busy trying to picture the creature and missed the bit about the 7 heads being 7 hills until I read this.
Um explain?
Look up "Dominionism" and/or "Christian Reconstructionism" and the "Seven Mountains" strategy that Rushdoony proposed. Quoting from The Gospel Coalition:
𝑃𝑟𝑜𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 7𝑀 [𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠] 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑜𝑛 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑠𝑝ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠 (𝑜𝑟 𝑚𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠) 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑓𝑙𝑢𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒: 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑓𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑦, 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑎, 𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑠/𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑡𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠.
Which just about covers every facet of human life ... and should be utterly unacceptable in this day and age, yet it is virtually encoded into Project 2025.
Great post today. Thank you for not Christian bashing. We really are not all crazy people!
If you hang out here you should know that FA doesn't 'christian bash' he bashes everyone and anyone that acts stupid/crazy and/or says stupid/crazy things. He is very 'equal opportunity' in that respect. He bashes dumb atheists too. But sadly, the christian nationalists are such low hanging fruit. Not to mention, they are the #1 biggest threat to American democracy atm.
I'll give you that for sure! MAGA is making it too easy! And I'm not on this Substack a lot, just occasionally.
Well, believing imaginary magical critters is a symptom of Delusional Disorder in the DSM-5..... 😉
I try hard these days to not associate with Christians even though I was one . Yah. The cult of Christianity gotta love it. Good on paper not in reality. There are good Christians. Those Christians who live and let live. But I am definetly bonkers.
Likable church sign...
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Kay-El 6:11 - Feed the pets.
Kay-El 6:12 - They’re finished.
Fuck the orange clown. No god is coming to save us except us. Vote Blue 💙
They can be quite demanding when hungry.