For a religion whose "leader" is supposed to be "all mighty" the followers sure are weak and impressionable. Literally everything they see, hear, or are around is going to cause "the debil" to get them. Movies are the devil and Satan will possess you if you watch them. Music is the devil and will cause evil to get your soul. Now a fucking bus route will cause evil to get you. I thought their "faith" protected them? Do they even see themselves? Like, this shit is ridiculous.
My late partner’s mother, like his whole family, were very fervent southern Baptist in the Roanoke Valley of Virginia. His mother had some psychic talents. Not the fake kind, the real kind. And they scared the crap out of her. She was absolutely certain that the devil was working on her, as she put it. She couldn’t process how she knew things that she shouldn’t or couldn’t possibly know. She didn’t want to be a witch, which she was not. She simply had some talents. I never actually talk to her in the seven years we were together. I would have been happy to try to talk her out of thinking that the devil was working on her. Even accepting her own religious framework, I would have tried to convince her that it was a gift from God. Anything but allowing her to drive herself and her family crazy because of her visions.
Actually, although I didn’t know the lady, my partner was very descriptive. Apparently, she knew lots of things that she could not possibly have known— like the red convertible of the new boyfriend of her slutty granddaughter and what town they were being slutty in. There were a lot of stories like this that he told me.
My own mother had a bit of that herself. She just knew some things that she couldn’t possibly have known. My sister went out on a first date with some guy when she was in college. The man appeared at the door, exchanged about one minute worth of pleasantries with my mother, and took my sister and left. My mother turned to me and said, “that man is married. I know he is”
In the case of my mother, she was very intuitive about lots of things. She did this sort of thing a lot. If only occasionally, you would be right – a lucky guess. But that was not really her style.
It still could have been a lucky guess, but I’ve seen enough in my life that I think such talents exist. My husband‘s father was a water witch. He was well known in his village for this talent. He demonstrated it to me and to my friend both. It’s possible he was so clever that he was able to fake it, but I don’t think so. He would have had to have micro muscle control like nobody’s business. For both my friend and myself, we were holding one portion of his water witch divining rod. It was forcibly turning in our hand. My father-in-law was not moving his in the slightest.
In Poland, Christian means Catholic most of the time (from anywhere between 71% to 82% right now, though secularism is gaining). These Catholics were more concerned about a bus route than children being molested by the Catholic clergy?
Isn’t it just amazing? Christians claim that their God is a wonderful God, an awesome God, their rock, their Shield, their sword, their protector, who will keep them from stumbling on the way— unless they do, because everybody sins, ya know— and who loves everyone so goddamn much that he even protects all of the little children from the minions of Satan who happen to work for him.
And yet simultaneously, the existence of a bus route to a town is a terrible threat to their faith and their place in the world.
Their God is almost as snowflakey as they are. But the problem is obvious. They are really worried that people will laugh at them, that more than anything else. A few years ago, Poland was really worried about gay people, so much that they had signs outside of towns proclaiming that the town was gay free. They were so worried about gay people because they had a sexual abuse problem going back decades in the Catholic Church. They weren’t so worried about people thinking that priests were child molesters as they were worried about gay people, who weren’t molesting the kids .
I lie to my 5 and 7 yo grandkids regulary. They know I do and I praise them when they spot the lie, and ask them how and why they understood I lied. I really believe it is important to teach kids how to spot a lie and how to spot the truth nowadays.
A great many Christians of all flavors continue to put their faith forward as the solution to all of humanity’s problems. They do this in spite of the fact their belief systems seldom rises above magical thinking.
Perhaps I'm out of line, or being too reasonable, or some other thing. I just think that if magical thinking were going to solve humanity's problems, it's had more than ample time to do so, and yet here we are with the same old problems. Year in, year out, century in, century out. When, exactly, is this magical thinking supposed to actually accomplish anything, and how long must we do all the waiting, preying, chanting, dancing, and whatever other hoopla is required to get the job done?
I never seem to get a satisfying answer to that one.
Good gravy, we got Polish Christian snowflakes now? I will admit, that new signage with the 669 and the upside-down bus on the last character was amusing, never mind the "holiday route to Hel." One would hope that believers could take a step back and just laugh at it.
Not all Christians have no sense of humour or can't laugh at themselves. I give a partial recommendation to the Christian singer Steve Taylor who, in the 80s and 90s, got into all kinds of bother with the US Christian rock industry for his quite popular satirical oeuvre:
Near me in Wales, there's a Pant (means 'hollow') And many welsh villages don't have a street address with road name and number. They just have house name+village name. Pen Isa is a not uncommon house name. (it kind of means 'top of the lower past of the village.) Bored teens with little else to do in small places do like to get busy with a Sharpie from time to time.
Of course the response would be mainly positive/neutral. The only negative response seems to be from snowflake Christian supremacists, an export thst makes me ashamed of my country.
For a religion whose "leader" is supposed to be "all mighty" the followers sure are weak and impressionable. Literally everything they see, hear, or are around is going to cause "the debil" to get them. Movies are the devil and Satan will possess you if you watch them. Music is the devil and will cause evil to get your soul. Now a fucking bus route will cause evil to get you. I thought their "faith" protected them? Do they even see themselves? Like, this shit is ridiculous.
Can you say, "Insecurity," boys and girls? I KNEW that you could! 😁
My late partner’s mother, like his whole family, were very fervent southern Baptist in the Roanoke Valley of Virginia. His mother had some psychic talents. Not the fake kind, the real kind. And they scared the crap out of her. She was absolutely certain that the devil was working on her, as she put it. She couldn’t process how she knew things that she shouldn’t or couldn’t possibly know. She didn’t want to be a witch, which she was not. She simply had some talents. I never actually talk to her in the seven years we were together. I would have been happy to try to talk her out of thinking that the devil was working on her. Even accepting her own religious framework, I would have tried to convince her that it was a gift from God. Anything but allowing her to drive herself and her family crazy because of her visions.
"Not the fake kind, the real kind." - There's only one kind.
Actually, although I didn’t know the lady, my partner was very descriptive. Apparently, she knew lots of things that she could not possibly have known— like the red convertible of the new boyfriend of her slutty granddaughter and what town they were being slutty in. There were a lot of stories like this that he told me.
My own mother had a bit of that herself. She just knew some things that she couldn’t possibly have known. My sister went out on a first date with some guy when she was in college. The man appeared at the door, exchanged about one minute worth of pleasantries with my mother, and took my sister and left. My mother turned to me and said, “that man is married. I know he is”
And he was.
How did you eliminate the possibility of a lucky guess?
In the case of my mother, she was very intuitive about lots of things. She did this sort of thing a lot. If only occasionally, you would be right – a lucky guess. But that was not really her style.
It still could have been a lucky guess, but I’ve seen enough in my life that I think such talents exist. My husband‘s father was a water witch. He was well known in his village for this talent. He demonstrated it to me and to my friend both. It’s possible he was so clever that he was able to fake it, but I don’t think so. He would have had to have micro muscle control like nobody’s business. For both my friend and myself, we were holding one portion of his water witch divining rod. It was forcibly turning in our hand. My father-in-law was not moving his in the slightest.
I have no explanation for it.
No explanation is not the same as people have physic powers.
"The scientific evidence shows that dowsing is no more effective than random chance.[10][11] It is therefore regarded as a pseudoscience."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing
"There's only one kind."
Not according to Ham.
Ah, she had the Shine, as Stephen King called it. Some people view it as a talent. Others view it as a curse. And for the True Knot, it's food.
Thanks, Sonja. I often make that same point. Why would they think that their all powerful "God" needs help or to be defended?
The key phrase in your first sentence is “supposed to be”.
Yes it is beyond ridiculous. But it should still be kept away from young children.
Yep. You would think since they are "washed in the blood of Jesus" they are safe.
In Poland, Christian means Catholic most of the time (from anywhere between 71% to 82% right now, though secularism is gaining). These Catholics were more concerned about a bus route than children being molested by the Catholic clergy?
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
Yes indeed they are. One of the reasons the crackdown on gay people was happening was because the Catholic Church needed a distraction.
Isn’t it just amazing? Christians claim that their God is a wonderful God, an awesome God, their rock, their Shield, their sword, their protector, who will keep them from stumbling on the way— unless they do, because everybody sins, ya know— and who loves everyone so goddamn much that he even protects all of the little children from the minions of Satan who happen to work for him.
And yet simultaneously, the existence of a bus route to a town is a terrible threat to their faith and their place in the world.
Their God is almost as snowflakey as they are. But the problem is obvious. They are really worried that people will laugh at them, that more than anything else. A few years ago, Poland was really worried about gay people, so much that they had signs outside of towns proclaiming that the town was gay free. They were so worried about gay people because they had a sexual abuse problem going back decades in the Catholic Church. They weren’t so worried about people thinking that priests were child molesters as they were worried about gay people, who weren’t molesting the kids .
Funny how that works.
I'm willing to bet the same towns that proclaim they are gay free now were the same towns that were proud to say they were judenfrei before 1945.
They did have a problem with that. They really hope no one brings it up.
Aren't buses like an Iron chariot of sorts?
Some iron, mostly aluminum. : )
The weak xtian god loses again.
In the land of the metaphorically dumb, the man with words is king.
The bigliest words!
Many people are saying so……….
And the air conditioning on the bus is AC/DC.
High Voltage
Used to be dirt cheap, but tariffs ended that.
Perhaps the deeds are too dirty.
But those are the best kind!
Exhibit number 666 that Christians ruin everything.
You're going to have to add a lot more sixes. : )
666 to the 666th power.
🎵Hiiiiiighway ta Hel...🎵
https://youtu.be/l482T0yNkeo?si=1JVZPP2e2x57W_gS
I was hoping someone would make this reference!
First thing that came to mind. :)
Please explain to me, like I'm 5yo, how religion is not insane.
I generally don't lie to 5 year olds. : )
I lie to my 5 and 7 yo grandkids regulary. They know I do and I praise them when they spot the lie, and ask them how and why they understood I lied. I really believe it is important to teach kids how to spot a lie and how to spot the truth nowadays.
Generally.
Majorally.
Never lie to a 5yo even in Private.
I’m going to use a very adult word that five year olds sometimes hear.
Religion is not insane. It is fucking crazy.
Does that help?
5yo should be too smart for religion.
A great many Christians of all flavors continue to put their faith forward as the solution to all of humanity’s problems. They do this in spite of the fact their belief systems seldom rises above magical thinking.
“They do this in spite of the fact their belief systems seldom rises above magical thinking.”
And despite the fact that the religion they follow is often the cause of (many of) humanity’s problems.
Perhaps I'm out of line, or being too reasonable, or some other thing. I just think that if magical thinking were going to solve humanity's problems, it's had more than ample time to do so, and yet here we are with the same old problems. Year in, year out, century in, century out. When, exactly, is this magical thinking supposed to actually accomplish anything, and how long must we do all the waiting, preying, chanting, dancing, and whatever other hoopla is required to get the job done?
I never seem to get a satisfying answer to that one.
Good gravy, we got Polish Christian snowflakes now? I will admit, that new signage with the 669 and the upside-down bus on the last character was amusing, never mind the "holiday route to Hel." One would hope that believers could take a step back and just laugh at it.
Sadly, apparently not.
Not all Christians have no sense of humour or can't laugh at themselves. I give a partial recommendation to the Christian singer Steve Taylor who, in the 80s and 90s, got into all kinds of bother with the US Christian rock industry for his quite popular satirical oeuvre:
"Marching to Pretoria
Colour codes in churches huh?
Following a fascist creed
Whose translation do you read?
True believers won't be snowed
We don't need no colour code."
That's a Hel of a good marketing tactic.
Sent from heaven.
👍😂
There is a Hell in central Norway. It's a small town in the mountains, but there seems to be more humor about their moniker.
My house is about an hour's drove from Hell, Michigan. It freezes over there, too.
In Norway, Hell REALLY freezes over. :)
There's also a Sodom, New Hampshire.
Near me in Wales, there's a Pant (means 'hollow') And many welsh villages don't have a street address with road name and number. They just have house name+village name. Pen Isa is a not uncommon house name. (it kind of means 'top of the lower past of the village.) Bored teens with little else to do in small places do like to get busy with a Sharpie from time to time.
Yup. I have visited the while driving from Oslo to the nothern part of Norway.
While it is true that Hell is in the midle of Norway, it is not true it is in the mountain, unless you believe 46 metres above the sea is a mountain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Norway
True. It is on a fjord in a mountain valley.
𝐻𝑒 𝑎𝑑𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑝𝑎𝑛𝑦 ℎ𝑎𝑑, 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑦𝑠𝑖𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑢𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑑𝑎𝑚𝑎𝑔𝑒, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑟 𝑛𝑒𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑙.
Of course the response would be mainly positive/neutral. The only negative response seems to be from snowflake Christian supremacists, an export thst makes me ashamed of my country.
Christians are most narrow minded, fearful , superstitious rubes ever. It's why they are such easy marks for grifting.
Imaginary friends and imaginary enemies and constant fear. They are such unhappy people.
What's worse, they can't keep their misery to themselves, but must needs spread it around and make everyone else miserable as well.
Another note of the dangerous cult thinking of imaginary issues while genocide takes place somewhere on earth.
I would make a point to go on this tour!
Here in America, you could make a fair argument every bus is a bus to Hell. Ridden on one lately?
Daily. They certainly have their fair share of characters.
You're slacking off (see above). : )
(or below)
As above, so below.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s9BD143JEzQ
It's Saturday. I'm still half-asleep. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLcmdWz_B0M&list=RDrLcmdWz_B0M&start_radio=1
Bermuda Schwartz plays a mean accordion case. :)
My husband and I took a Greyhound Bus trip once. Afterward, we both swore "never again." If we were too broke to fly, we'd stay home.