These same people will tell you with a straight face that they don't force their religion on anyone. And when you tell them only that preaching to a captive and unwilling audience is rude, they will scream persecution.
Me too. Or maybe not. Some friends and family members insists that listening to me singing is close to torture. Forcing that on already traumatized (sorry for my bad spelling) passengers would be evil.
If you and I ever happen to be on the same flight (very unlikely) and a self-styled preacher starts a sermon I'd join you in the chant. I really dislike it when people take advantage of a captive audience. Of course, they would very likely take that as persecution for the sake of righteousness. Sigh. The more I see these kinds of things happening, the more I think that Christianity is losing its grasp in our society because these kinds of tactics are clearly born out of desperation.
"Nogodzpedia". That is when I decided I had to follow the One True NOGODZ20! 😁😂 The world actually needs a wikipedia (wicked-pedia?) dedicated to debunking what religious hypocrites claim and do, with what their holey books actually say.
I suppose that there are many who are trying to demonstrate how holy they are by preaching to a captive audience. Some may be sincere but in I Peter 3:15, we are told to be able to talk to others about the hope we but to do so with gentleness and respect. There's little of gentleness or respect in what these airline preachers are doing.
With all gentleness and respect, David, I see very little gentleness or respect not only from these airline preachers, but from a good many so-called Christians. And this is indeed the problem, as I’ve said many times on these pages and to you.
This is religious megalomania. They not only over identify with God, they think that they are God, that God has given them his special permission to do whatever they wish, ignore whatever rules of politeness or decency that they wish.
As Barry Goldwater observed, this is going to be a singular damn problem. In fact it already is.
You are probably referring to Matthew 10:14 - "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet." That was part of specific instructions given by Jesus to his disciples but I don't think that it's applicable in general. Jesus' instructions to them also included the commands to not take any money and to avoid the Gentiles and Samaritans. Others disagree. If someone tells me that they have no interest in religion then I don't press the issue but I don't think that because some in a forum have no interest in what I say that I should stop posting in that forum.
A lot of what Jesus had to say was specifically to certain people, not general rules. And of course, so many Christians of that type ignore what he had to say altogether if it isn’t dancing the two step with what they already believe. Jesus is no longer important to this type of Christian.
There's a lot of truth in what you say. I don't claim to always succeed at this but I try to avoid cherry picking the scriptures. Others, especially in this forum, would say that I still have a long ways to go with that.
And here I thought Hemant was going to talk about Justice Gorsuch's statement regarding the US NOT being a Christian Nation. Oh, well.
Yet little dweebs like Ms. Lynn above sure think that, because she has freedom of speech, that she's empowered to preach to an aircraft cabin full of mostly disinterested passengers, because she LOVES a captive audience!
What I personally would LOVE here is to see her ARRESTED the second she leaves the aircraft. The charge? Oh, how about "Creating a Public Disturbance," among other things?
Someone needs to tell Ms. Lynn and those who would emulate her that their right to wave their beliefs about ENDS AT MY NOSE!!!
First thought: wow, the Usurper actually said something correct?
Second thought: Ms Lynn et al wouldn't understand the message until it was demonstrated. Get an Imam to preach from the Quran before she stands up. Have a Buddhist start chanting during her sermonette. A hearty Hail Satan immediately after her amen. It will probably take several times to get through to her, but it might work.
Of all the weird shít that's happened in the last decade, Bållscratch being the 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘵 offensive of Chump's court appointments was 𝘯𝘰𝘵 on my Bingo card.
Further Thought: If this trend continues (and I have no reason to think it won't), the airlines need to establish some hard and firm parameters for passenger behavior while in the air. Public displays of ANY sort, with the possible exception of things like Pilot's Last Flight (which I was present for once!) and things of that nature, should be forbidden, with the added consequence of arrest upon arrival.
As has been stated by others here: airline travel can be problematic to begin with. Adding proselytizing to the mix does NOT improve matters!
Not only that, but it's potentially a massive safety risk. Think about people being drunk on flights, and then one of these asshats gets up to "preach," and then fisticuffs ensue, or worse.
Nip this shit in the bud.
Also, if anyone did this in Arabic you know they'd be out on their ass and on the no-fly list.
Flying has been reduced to a miserable experience so I rarely do it any more. I would seriously be looking in to suing the airline that allowed this to happen. The deluded preachers always operate under the assumption everyone wants to hear what they have to say.
There is a very real, very personal reason I will never fly again that I am debating whether or not to share. But even if that reason didn't exist, I would probably rank crap like what is featured in this story as one that would come pretty close to the top in making me swear off flying, or at least seriously reconsider another form of transportation.
So far I have been lucky, and only had to suffer through crying babies, and I do like the suggestions of blasting popular music over the preaching, or as Evelyn suggests below, (and Lloyd also, just saw your post ) leading a rousing chorus of "99 Bottles of Beer."
But the fact remains that we should NOT have to put up with this. We pay through the nose for rock-hard seats that make your lower back feel like someone is trying to pry the vertebrae apart with a crowbar, and make your sit bones feel like they are cutting through your glutes, in a seating space that has been shortened to the point where my knees now press against the seat in front of me (and I'm only 5'3"). Crying infants are why I use earplugs, but that only dulls the noise and I know infants don't cry on purpose.
These religious nuts on the other hand, operate very deliberately, out of a buttload of spite and malice. They don't see it that way, but that is exactly what it is. Just listen to their gloating about "captive audiences." They know everyone doesn't want to listen to their Sales Pitch for Jesus, and any that Christian with a modicum of common courtesy and consideration for others would stay seated and STFU about their Jesus Delusion.
Instead, they stand up and RUDELY subject everyone trapped on that plane with them to their drivel. That alone should get them banned from flying ever again. I thought being disruptive and rude to other passengers (and it IS rude, by every single metric that exists) was a totally valid reason for an airline to ban you from future flights.
We all know what would happen if a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or any other religion pulled this shit. But think about it as an unwanted sales pitch (because that's exactly what it is, and thanks to Captain Cassidy for helping me see that) and imagine if an MLM bot stood up and started singing the praises of Amway. Or an insurance rep started lecturing people about the consequences of not buying their insurance plans.
This is exactly what Ms. Lynn and her fellow snake oil salespeople are doing. Being on a plane with one of these idiots is like being trapped in a timeshare presentation you didn't sign up for.
Yep, I would say to everyone who has had to endure this, write to the airlines and if they don't listen or claim there's nothing they can do about it threaten to sue because your own freedom of/from religion was ignored. Write to the Better Business Bureau. Write to the local newspaper's Op/Ed page and call out the names of the airlines that permit this. I don't know if it's still legal to have an organized peaceful protest outside an airport, so I hesitate to suggest that unless your group brings their own lawyer.
Calling this bullshit out and pushing back is the only way to make the airline industry take action. Of course Christians will scream persecution. Let them.
They scream persecution at the drop of a hat.
They scream persecution at the picking up of a hat.
They scream persecution if the sky is blue.
They scream persecution if the sky isn't blue.
They scream persecution the way sane people breathe.
Sorry for the rant. I just hate flying and I hate rude religious idiots, and the thought of being subjected to both at the same time makes my blood boil.
Good question, to which I don't know the answer. The 1a lets you protest outside a facility, for instance on the facing public sidewalk. But the airport property line is probably hundreds of yards away from the terminal, out past several parking lots. If it's all privately owned land, then you realistically can't hold your protest anywhere near the loading/unloading/terminal areas. But maybe if it's a state-owned or federally owned facility you can??? Not sure.
These people impress me as far less interested in their Jesus than they are in becoming TikTok stars. Just another way for self-absorbed attention wh**** to make everything about me Me ME!! Passengers need to start complaining LOUDLY to flight attendants and the airlines. NOBODY paid that kind of money for a ticket to be annoyed by anybody's fangirls looking for an attention dopamine hit.
You're right about them wanting to be on social media .... which also gives a remedy. The people nearest their recording device should sing something, doesn't matter what it is. What matters is that they sing really really tunelessly. Maybe a few people singing different tunes altogether could also be effective.
Yes, that’s a great idea. Some people on the left of her doing ‘99 green bottles’ and the people to the right of her doing ‘row row row’. After 10 mins they could swap? Or move to ‘swing low, sweet chariot’ and ‘what shall we do with the drunken sailor’? There could even be some international contributions of ‘God save the king’ and ‘the marseillaise’?
The Tartan Army are great at that kind of thing, they’ll have been singing ‘No Scotland no party’, ‘Yes, Sir, I can boogie’ and ‘You take the High Road’ at any of the world cup venues until they got hoarse!
If a few people start responding with "I was on the fence but thank you for helping me decide to become a satanist. I will pray for you. Hail Satan!", then the deranged zealots may find their self-control once again.
Spiritual arrogance is a social disease, something like gonorrhea but not curable, one that so many Christians of this type exhibit in so many ways.
Religulous megalomania is a psychological disease, and over identification with God, a demand that everyone recognize just how special the megalomaniac is. Jesus sent her because WE all NEED to hear what she has to say?
Promises of heaven when I have no choice? If that isn’t hell, I don’t know what is.
But this is beyond all of that. This is simply rudeness writ large on a cosmic, yet hellish scale. I don’t want to hear if you want to talk to or about your imaginary friend. Your arrogance and megalomania are fine in your life, but keep them out of mine. Keep your religion out of mine.
I’m not sure what I would do if I were on a long flight, trying to sleep or relax, and someone started this nonsense. But I would make it my business to let that asshole and that airline know.
On Sunday I was coming home on the subway and these two kids started playing some what I would have to call Afghan folk music done up as rap. Violin and accordion, both amplified. If they were out on the street I might’ve stopped to listen and I might’ve given them some money. But on the train with the wheels screeching and the tunnel echoing, it was simply something I did not want to hear. I almost said something to one of the boys when he walked by, but they were just trying to make some money, and I could appreciate that.
But getting preached out on an airplane isn’t that.
If the Airlines can’t understand that people want peace and quiet to work, maybe talk with our seatmate, watch a movie, think, read, or sleep, they should have rules in place to deal with an unruly passenger who wants to disturb everyone else. With your drunk on alcohol or drunk on Jesus, you have no business being drunk on an airliner.
𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑜𝑝𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑚𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑡 𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦’𝑙𝑙 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑑𝑒 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑙𝑢𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠.
Conversions: 0
Conclusions that Christians are lunatics: 100%
These same people will tell you with a straight face that they don't force their religion on anyone. And when you tell them only that preaching to a captive and unwilling audience is rude, they will scream persecution.
Self aware, they are not.
Proselytising in an aeroplane is the textbook example of forcing their religion on other people!
If they ever mention “demons” or “Hell” or “punishment”, I’d report them as a terrorist threatening the plane.
Then hopefully there would be airport security and police to show them the ACTUAL Jesus Persecution Experience.
Not to be confused with the Jimi Hendrix Experience which I would put in full blast if some nut did this
I would sing along and make electric guitar noises also.
Me too. Or maybe not. Some friends and family members insists that listening to me singing is close to torture. Forcing that on already traumatized (sorry for my bad spelling) passengers would be evil.
It's still better than the Jesus ranting.
Maybe you could just hum or drum.
It would be for a good cause .... also adding your superpowers to the effort might ensure a speedier result?
Altogether now: 'row' - '99' - 'row' - 'bottles' - 'row' - 'are' - 'the' - .....
I hope if it has to happen to me, you're on the same flight!
Because they are certain that Jeebus has their backs and will cast the naysayers into the maw of Hell upon their deaths...
I’d send them over first to prepare my place.
We already concluded that. I used to be one, and speak from experience.
Flying already kind of sucks, so leave it to the Christians to find a way to make it even more annoying.
With everything I've seen about flying since the last time I did it, I'm so glad I haven't had to. It just seems genuinely bad.
Since the moment airlines realized they could get away with treating passengers as cargo.
I have up flying for my sanity.
I actually like flying. Last time was this summer. I really, really hope we don't import religious fanatics from anywhere.
Should put them on the No Fly List for 5 years. Problem solved.
Permanent lifetime ban.
Let them ride stolen donkeys/colts to get where they're going. If it was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for them.
And no cheating by using saddles.
Then they can hang as horse thieves.
Backwards. You forgot backwards. We 𝘥𝘰 want 'em to have the 𝘧𝘶𝘭𝘭 Jesus Experience (tm), don't we?
THERE ya go! 👍
Just get a Hail Satan! chant going. That should get the plane's crew active in defusing the situation.
If you and I ever happen to be on the same flight (very unlikely) and a self-styled preacher starts a sermon I'd join you in the chant. I really dislike it when people take advantage of a captive audience. Of course, they would very likely take that as persecution for the sake of righteousness. Sigh. The more I see these kinds of things happening, the more I think that Christianity is losing its grasp in our society because these kinds of tactics are clearly born out of desperation.
Monotheism is not adapting well to the 21st century.
I don't know about that but that's certainly true for more than a few believers.
I love this. Maybe carry garlic just in case and pile it up on their seats.
To clueless xtians who think they'll get brownie points for pulling this crapola at 42,000 feet...
"Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven."
-- Jesus, in Matthew 6:1
Praying in public isn't an act of devotion; it's marketing.
I knew you'd know the proper bible phrase!
They don't call you Nogodzpedia for nothing ....
🙂
"Nogodzpedia". That is when I decided I had to follow the One True NOGODZ20! 😁😂 The world actually needs a wikipedia (wicked-pedia?) dedicated to debunking what religious hypocrites claim and do, with what their holey books actually say.
I suppose that there are many who are trying to demonstrate how holy they are by preaching to a captive audience. Some may be sincere but in I Peter 3:15, we are told to be able to talk to others about the hope we but to do so with gentleness and respect. There's little of gentleness or respect in what these airline preachers are doing.
With all gentleness and respect, David, I see very little gentleness or respect not only from these airline preachers, but from a good many so-called Christians. And this is indeed the problem, as I’ve said many times on these pages and to you.
This is religious megalomania. They not only over identify with God, they think that they are God, that God has given them his special permission to do whatever they wish, ignore whatever rules of politeness or decency that they wish.
As Barry Goldwater observed, this is going to be a singular damn problem. In fact it already is.
Somewhere you're also told to leave if nobody listens to you. Yet...
To Zizzer: Not once but 3 times (Matthew 10:14, Mark 6:11 and Luke 9:5).
How many times must xtians read that scripture before what Jesus said finally takes hold? Or are they being willfully obtuse?
Yes, they are. Davey is even kind enough to prove it right in this thread.
Glad to be of service.
Oh yes, someone should have showed her the door right there. It’s biblical!
You are probably referring to Matthew 10:14 - "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet." That was part of specific instructions given by Jesus to his disciples but I don't think that it's applicable in general. Jesus' instructions to them also included the commands to not take any money and to avoid the Gentiles and Samaritans. Others disagree. If someone tells me that they have no interest in religion then I don't press the issue but I don't think that because some in a forum have no interest in what I say that I should stop posting in that forum.
A lot of what Jesus had to say was specifically to certain people, not general rules. And of course, so many Christians of that type ignore what he had to say altogether if it isn’t dancing the two step with what they already believe. Jesus is no longer important to this type of Christian.
There's a lot of truth in what you say. I don't claim to always succeed at this but I try to avoid cherry picking the scriptures. Others, especially in this forum, would say that I still have a long ways to go with that.
.....and there's an awful lot of cherries. And not just red and black.
Old Testament Christians
if they have not graduated to the new testament , they cannot call themselves
"xtians" .
And here I thought Hemant was going to talk about Justice Gorsuch's statement regarding the US NOT being a Christian Nation. Oh, well.
Yet little dweebs like Ms. Lynn above sure think that, because she has freedom of speech, that she's empowered to preach to an aircraft cabin full of mostly disinterested passengers, because she LOVES a captive audience!
What I personally would LOVE here is to see her ARRESTED the second she leaves the aircraft. The charge? Oh, how about "Creating a Public Disturbance," among other things?
Someone needs to tell Ms. Lynn and those who would emulate her that their right to wave their beliefs about ENDS AT MY NOSE!!!
Prison is another place where she would have a captive audience!
First thought: wow, the Usurper actually said something correct?
Second thought: Ms Lynn et al wouldn't understand the message until it was demonstrated. Get an Imam to preach from the Quran before she stands up. Have a Buddhist start chanting during her sermonette. A hearty Hail Satan immediately after her amen. It will probably take several times to get through to her, but it might work.
Of all the weird shít that's happened in the last decade, Bållscratch being the 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘵 offensive of Chump's court appointments was 𝘯𝘰𝘵 on my Bingo card.
Yes, she has freedom of speech. But that freedom is not an absolute right.
A prosecution for 'Breach of the Peace' could be successful. Especially if other passengers object to her behaviour.
They seem to think “freedom of speech” means nobody is allowed to interrupt them or disagree with them.
If she mentions “demons” or ”Hell” or “punishment”, that should count as threatening a terrorist attack.
Further Thought: If this trend continues (and I have no reason to think it won't), the airlines need to establish some hard and firm parameters for passenger behavior while in the air. Public displays of ANY sort, with the possible exception of things like Pilot's Last Flight (which I was present for once!) and things of that nature, should be forbidden, with the added consequence of arrest upon arrival.
As has been stated by others here: airline travel can be problematic to begin with. Adding proselytizing to the mix does NOT improve matters!
Adding proselytizing anywhere does not improve matters.
Not only that, but it's potentially a massive safety risk. Think about people being drunk on flights, and then one of these asshats gets up to "preach," and then fisticuffs ensue, or worse.
Nip this shit in the bud.
Also, if anyone did this in Arabic you know they'd be out on their ass and on the no-fly list.
This is how it feels to be trapped in a tube filled with demons.
Flying has been reduced to a miserable experience so I rarely do it any more. I would seriously be looking in to suing the airline that allowed this to happen. The deluded preachers always operate under the assumption everyone wants to hear what they have to say.
Conservatives, as a rule, aren't big on consent.
They don't believe in it.
They’re like the men Megara talks about: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d4fd5fb54dfb8acdf6b01c97091497e65edf3571baac9323eb3b5a6cab13ee2.png
There is a very real, very personal reason I will never fly again that I am debating whether or not to share. But even if that reason didn't exist, I would probably rank crap like what is featured in this story as one that would come pretty close to the top in making me swear off flying, or at least seriously reconsider another form of transportation.
So far I have been lucky, and only had to suffer through crying babies, and I do like the suggestions of blasting popular music over the preaching, or as Evelyn suggests below, (and Lloyd also, just saw your post ) leading a rousing chorus of "99 Bottles of Beer."
But the fact remains that we should NOT have to put up with this. We pay through the nose for rock-hard seats that make your lower back feel like someone is trying to pry the vertebrae apart with a crowbar, and make your sit bones feel like they are cutting through your glutes, in a seating space that has been shortened to the point where my knees now press against the seat in front of me (and I'm only 5'3"). Crying infants are why I use earplugs, but that only dulls the noise and I know infants don't cry on purpose.
These religious nuts on the other hand, operate very deliberately, out of a buttload of spite and malice. They don't see it that way, but that is exactly what it is. Just listen to their gloating about "captive audiences." They know everyone doesn't want to listen to their Sales Pitch for Jesus, and any that Christian with a modicum of common courtesy and consideration for others would stay seated and STFU about their Jesus Delusion.
Instead, they stand up and RUDELY subject everyone trapped on that plane with them to their drivel. That alone should get them banned from flying ever again. I thought being disruptive and rude to other passengers (and it IS rude, by every single metric that exists) was a totally valid reason for an airline to ban you from future flights.
We all know what would happen if a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or any other religion pulled this shit. But think about it as an unwanted sales pitch (because that's exactly what it is, and thanks to Captain Cassidy for helping me see that) and imagine if an MLM bot stood up and started singing the praises of Amway. Or an insurance rep started lecturing people about the consequences of not buying their insurance plans.
This is exactly what Ms. Lynn and her fellow snake oil salespeople are doing. Being on a plane with one of these idiots is like being trapped in a timeshare presentation you didn't sign up for.
Yep, I would say to everyone who has had to endure this, write to the airlines and if they don't listen or claim there's nothing they can do about it threaten to sue because your own freedom of/from religion was ignored. Write to the Better Business Bureau. Write to the local newspaper's Op/Ed page and call out the names of the airlines that permit this. I don't know if it's still legal to have an organized peaceful protest outside an airport, so I hesitate to suggest that unless your group brings their own lawyer.
Calling this bullshit out and pushing back is the only way to make the airline industry take action. Of course Christians will scream persecution. Let them.
They scream persecution at the drop of a hat.
They scream persecution at the picking up of a hat.
They scream persecution if the sky is blue.
They scream persecution if the sky isn't blue.
They scream persecution the way sane people breathe.
Sorry for the rant. I just hate flying and I hate rude religious idiots, and the thought of being subjected to both at the same time makes my blood boil.
𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑖𝑓 𝑖𝑡'𝑠 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑟𝑔𝑎𝑛𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑐𝑒𝑓𝑢𝑙 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑖𝑟𝑝𝑜𝑟𝑡
Good question, to which I don't know the answer. The 1a lets you protest outside a facility, for instance on the facing public sidewalk. But the airport property line is probably hundreds of yards away from the terminal, out past several parking lots. If it's all privately owned land, then you realistically can't hold your protest anywhere near the loading/unloading/terminal areas. But maybe if it's a state-owned or federally owned facility you can??? Not sure.
💯 on what if they were singing the call to prayer…..
These people impress me as far less interested in their Jesus than they are in becoming TikTok stars. Just another way for self-absorbed attention wh**** to make everything about me Me ME!! Passengers need to start complaining LOUDLY to flight attendants and the airlines. NOBODY paid that kind of money for a ticket to be annoyed by anybody's fangirls looking for an attention dopamine hit.
You're right about them wanting to be on social media .... which also gives a remedy. The people nearest their recording device should sing something, doesn't matter what it is. What matters is that they sing really really tunelessly. Maybe a few people singing different tunes altogether could also be effective.
Row, row, row your boat would be good, everyone could join in.
Yes, that’s a great idea. Some people on the left of her doing ‘99 green bottles’ and the people to the right of her doing ‘row row row’. After 10 mins they could swap? Or move to ‘swing low, sweet chariot’ and ‘what shall we do with the drunken sailor’? There could even be some international contributions of ‘God save the king’ and ‘the marseillaise’?
The Tartan Army are great at that kind of thing, they’ll have been singing ‘No Scotland no party’, ‘Yes, Sir, I can boogie’ and ‘You take the High Road’ at any of the world cup venues until they got hoarse!
Mustn't forget the classics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENDt94yhi44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rguoPtzXghM
The best part is, you'll never run out of lyrics, even on the longest flights!
Thank you for this. I think?
This one is not suitable for this particular purpose, but I thought you’d like it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDeQT9zCvi4&list=RDSDeQT9zCvi4&start_radio=1
Lots of shouts "She's on the plane" to drown out anything.
I remember some verses to "waltz me around by my willie."
Very loudly. And possibly slightly naughty to shut them up quicker.
Arrogant, anti-social, inhospitable behavior.
About what I expect.
They aren't doing it to "save souls", they're doing it for "Jesus cred" with their followers or church friends.
Once again: Territory-marking and virtue-signaling ... oh, and utterly ignoring Matthew 6:5-6 while we're at it. It's what they do.
Even their imaginary savior disapproved of such shenanigans. In the end, they hurt themselves and create new nonbelievers.
Own goals are the only kind they know how to score.
If a few people start responding with "I was on the fence but thank you for helping me decide to become a satanist. I will pray for you. Hail Satan!", then the deranged zealots may find their self-control once again.
Doubtful.
They aren't doing it for anyone on the plane, they're doing it for clicks from the Christians who watch their channel.
Of course it's tongue in cheek but I guess we'll never know unless a few people actually try it. 😄
This made me laugh!
Thank you.
Good! You're welcome. 😁👍
Snakes would be better.
"I have had it with these motherfucking Christians on this motherfucking plane!"
Somebody else used that and got banished to the hidden zone.
It was Zizzer. The 'bot can't even be consistent.
I am being silenced!!!
Thank you. If I ever get into a conversation with Samuel L. Jackson I now have a subject to discuss.
https://youtu.be/amYzBQMT4VI?is=i1f6AefdL3jCTRm6
Spiritual arrogance is a social disease, something like gonorrhea but not curable, one that so many Christians of this type exhibit in so many ways.
Religulous megalomania is a psychological disease, and over identification with God, a demand that everyone recognize just how special the megalomaniac is. Jesus sent her because WE all NEED to hear what she has to say?
Promises of heaven when I have no choice? If that isn’t hell, I don’t know what is.
But this is beyond all of that. This is simply rudeness writ large on a cosmic, yet hellish scale. I don’t want to hear if you want to talk to or about your imaginary friend. Your arrogance and megalomania are fine in your life, but keep them out of mine. Keep your religion out of mine.
I’m not sure what I would do if I were on a long flight, trying to sleep or relax, and someone started this nonsense. But I would make it my business to let that asshole and that airline know.
On Sunday I was coming home on the subway and these two kids started playing some what I would have to call Afghan folk music done up as rap. Violin and accordion, both amplified. If they were out on the street I might’ve stopped to listen and I might’ve given them some money. But on the train with the wheels screeching and the tunnel echoing, it was simply something I did not want to hear. I almost said something to one of the boys when he walked by, but they were just trying to make some money, and I could appreciate that.
But getting preached out on an airplane isn’t that.
If the Airlines can’t understand that people want peace and quiet to work, maybe talk with our seatmate, watch a movie, think, read, or sleep, they should have rules in place to deal with an unruly passenger who wants to disturb everyone else. With your drunk on alcohol or drunk on Jesus, you have no business being drunk on an airliner.
If there's a sudden burst of heavy turbulence, tell the god botherers "That's your deity telling you to sit down and be silent."