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𝑂𝑓 π‘π‘œπ‘’π‘Ÿπ‘ π‘’, π‘‘β„Žπ‘–π‘  𝑖𝑠𝑛’𝑑 𝑐𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑙 π‘‘π‘–π‘ π‘œπ‘π‘’π‘‘π‘–π‘’π‘›π‘π‘’. 𝐼𝑑’𝑠 π‘‘β„Žπ‘’π‘“π‘‘. 𝐼𝑑’𝑠 π‘Ž π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘š π‘œπ‘“ π‘£π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘π‘Žπ‘™π‘–π‘ π‘š π‘’π‘›π‘π‘œπ‘’π‘Ÿπ‘Žπ‘”π‘’π‘‘ 𝑏𝑦 πΆβ„Žπ‘Ÿπ‘–π‘ π‘‘π‘–π‘Žπ‘›π‘  π‘€β„Žπ‘œ π‘‘π‘œπ‘›β€™π‘‘ π‘€π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ π‘Žπ‘›π‘¦π‘œπ‘›π‘’ β„Žπ‘Žπ‘£π‘–π‘›π‘” π‘Žπ‘π‘π‘’π‘ π‘  π‘‘π‘œ π‘π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘‘π‘Žπ‘–π‘› π‘˜π‘–π‘›π‘‘π‘  π‘œπ‘“ π‘–π‘›π‘“π‘œπ‘Ÿπ‘šπ‘Žπ‘‘π‘–π‘œπ‘› π‘π‘’π‘π‘Žπ‘’π‘ π‘’ 𝑖𝑑 π‘šπ‘–π‘”β„Žπ‘‘ π‘π‘–π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘π‘’ π‘‘β„Žπ‘’ 𝑏𝑒𝑏𝑏𝑙𝑒 π‘‘β„Žπ‘’π‘¦ π‘€π‘Žπ‘›π‘‘ π‘’π‘£π‘’π‘Ÿπ‘¦π‘œπ‘›π‘’ π‘‘π‘œ 𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑖𝑑𝑒.

Obey the Ten Commandments, except when you're lying and stealing for Jesus. Pastor Keeler: How many LGBTQ adults are there in Shelbeyville, Murfreesboro, or the entire Nashville region that became gay or trans due to children's books that gave them representation? How many grew up without that representation? How many straight relationships in books did you read that made you straight? The answer to all of those questions is zero. It didn't happen before there were books representing LGBTQ kids, it won't happen now that there are those books.

Quit burning books. That's some straight up Nazi shit.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Throughout history, β€œbook burners” have not fared well. The act itself is driven by fear and ignorance.

β€œThe unifying factor between all types of purposeful book-burners in the 20th century is that the perpetrators feel like victims, even if they’re the ones in power.”

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oraxx's avatar

People who burn books are never the good guys.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Books may get burned, but the IDEAS are still out there ... and I've yet to discover so much as one way to utterly destroy an idea, whether good or bad.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Who's to say he isn't a nazi aficionado ?

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larry parker's avatar

The haircut fits but the mustache isn't quite reich.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

More Village People but with no style.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

He wish to have 1/10th or their success and recognition.

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Henri Issacson's avatar

He's parroting Gavin McInnes, the founder of the proud boys. That is what that 'stache is trying to do. So yeah, fascism adjacent.

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David V. Miller's avatar

This reminds me of my college student days back in the 1980's in northwestern Louisiana. Practically all the nearby towns with libraries & the university library as well had ALL books on human sexuality missing, plus a lot of the science books. I assumed it was churchlings trying to suppress knowledge. I decided to test this theory spending every weekend during a summer at the local town library during open hours. My procedure involved verifying the location the specific books before library opening & again the next day. For this I got the cooperation of the nice librarian lady who like me was mystified at the loses. And I got to determine human sexuality books tended to get disappeared on Saturdays, which was the days when a group of Southern Baptshits came to the library every week. We never caught them taking the books, but its an uncanny coincidence that every time the Baptshits came books disappeared. The librarian lady took the matter to her superiors. Nothing happened & weeks later she was fired. The next librarian was a Baptshit himself & not friendly to me. For 4yrs I donated books to replace the losses, but as a poor student I couldn't donate enough - they got disappeared faster than I could donate. The last book I donated disappeared the day after I donated it. With that I gave up. Churchlings are a PITA to deal with. They're full of Assholiness.

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oraxx's avatar

As if the world needed another example of why no one should ever delegate their thinking to the clergy. He would steal these books from public libraries, yet expose children to the grotesque stories of the Old Testament presented as fact. Nothing terrifies a religious extremist quite like critical thinking.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

Nothing terrifies a religious extremist quite like thinking.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

I bet their libraries have plenty of Christian themed books. You don’t see atheists running around trying to tell the library to pull those off the shelves because the library is indoctrinating children, pushing an agenda, or grooming children. Why? Because we have critical thinking skills and know that books being available in the library is just having books available and not pushing them on people. The library’s only agenda is to provide access to knowledge. Which is what these preachers are really afraid of. The entire idea of religion is based on people’s need for explanations for the world around them, and religion came up with an answer to the questions that the folks running religion found profitable. But they know that if people keep learning they can’t continue to profit from their facile answers. Profit and power are mutually inclusive.

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ericc's avatar
19hEdited

Why?

Because many of those Christian books are some of the best atheist-making tools in the business.

:)

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Henri Issacson's avatar

worked on me...

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Great point, Val.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel"

-- Thomas Paine, from "The Age of Reason"

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David V. Miller's avatar

Paine was GREAT.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

He never owned slaves. He viewed slavery as cruel.

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phelpsmediation's avatar

Projection is their reality. They are grooming children to believe wild stories about talking snakes, stoning women for not bleeding on their wedding night, condoning slavery, genocide of neighboring tribes, believing that the Earth is only 6,000 years old and worst of all to believe things on β€œfaith” without evidence or good reason because it is in some ancient book or some man in a robe says its true.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Yeah, the β€œearth is 6000 years old” thing requires heavy duty willful ignorance to be considered true, no matter what a person’s views on religion are.

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OwossoHarpist's avatar

It also requires complete denial of credible evidence that confirms the world to be billions of years old.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

When will you get it ? The absence of a fossile of the breeding between a T-Rex and a Chihuahua is the proof that evolution is fake news !!!

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

I thought it was the Brontosaurus/Dachshund link

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

That would explain how I ended with a vegetarian dog 😁

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Shulgi Adad's avatar

Hmmmm. How to choose between a Tyrannohuahua and a Bronshund?

Or would it Chi-Rex and Dachosaurus?

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Stephen Brady's avatar

They really believe Iron-Age/Bronze-Age science. Nothing about brain wiring. No book can turn someone who is truly Straight Gay and no book can turn someone who is truly Gay Straight. The only people who can truly choose to be one or the other are Bi people... and there are a lot of frustrated Bi people who forced themselves into the Straight mold in compliance with these authoritarian religions - including a lot of these F***ed up preachers.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Can confirm. I tried to be straight when I got married. All that happened was I was miserable.

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The Epistler's avatar

I tried to be straight because thanks to the mindset I was raised in I just assumed it wasn't optional. That everyone automatically got married to someone of the opposite gender and then had kids. My attempts at dating made me absolutely miserable and anxious. If, as a kid, I had had access to media explaining what asexuality is, I never would have gone through that ordeal.

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Richard S. Russell's avatar

Hope and faith are both based on wishful thinking. Hope is when you wish something were true and you know it isn’t, but maybe, some day, just possibly, it MIGHT be. Faith is when you want something to be true and, despite the complete absence of evidence, you believe that it already IS.

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Joe King's avatar

Hope is useful. It can help you strive to get the thing hoped for. Faith is harmful. It can undermine critical thinking and get you to think unreal things to be the Truth.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Are you saying I* don't exist ? 🀣

* My name means hope.

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Joe Robbins's avatar

Can I argue β€˜Biblical mandated civil disobedience’ to β€˜enter’ their houses and take the books back to the libraries?

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James Scammell's avatar

βœ” βœ” … right on !

Just do it.

Start with CRIMINAL TRUMPS Mary-Lago town house. ~ oops, sorry that’s not Kentucky.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

To the xtian asswipes at Reformation Church in Kenfucky...

Do the words Thou Shalt Not Steal have any meaning to you hypocrites?

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Joe King's avatar

They've graduated from Liars for Jesus to Thieves for Jesus.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

Not graduated, just added stealing to the list.

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Boreal's avatar

"These books are written for children, and if you have the Holy Spirit of God in you, you ought to be filled with righteous indignation that books like these are being pushed through your library. "

You don't say? Shocking. Children should read something wholesome like the bible, right?

Genesis 19:30-38

β€œBehold, I lay last night with my father. Let us make him drink wine tonight also. Then you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve offspring from our father.” So they made their father drink wine that night also. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he did not know when she lay down or when she arose. Thus both the daughters of Lot became pregnant by their father."

Ezekiel 23:20

"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

I’m not a reader of whatever Bible version is currently circulating in crappy hotel nightstands, BUT JFC! That lay with my father shit is really in there? Unfathomable!

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

In the Genese Eve is the transgender clone of Adam and they were the first humans. With whom their sons fathered children ? And, I will have to invoke NOGODZPEDIA for confirmation, aren't Abraham and Sarah half-siblings ?

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Just seeing this. Sarah was Abraham’s half-sister. They had the same father (Terah), but different mothers. All there in Genesis 20:12.

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Richard S. Russell's avatar

Not to mention which Eve's own son Cain supposedly fathered the next generation of humans. With whom, do you suppose? Well, who all was available to choose from?

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ericc's avatar

Pretty sure neither clone nor trans is the intended reading by the authors. That's trying to force a description of a divine miracle to be a description of some 21st century genetic experiment.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Ever heard of sarcasm ?

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Matilda's avatar

I like to travel and hadn't seen a gideon bible in hotel rooms for years, but there was one in german and english in my hotel in Austria not long ago. As an ex-fundy, a recovering-fundy, it freaked me out so, shall we say, a public litter bin nearby got heavier that day. Then I had a conscience about it, so when on my first cruise trip, I found a bible in my cabin, and my steward asking me if I needed anything. I handed it to him and said I couldn't have it in my cabin for 10 days. He must have been used to passengers making strange requests, but wonder if he'd ever had that one before, especially from a very conventional-looking elderly, grey-haired brit! (He was from Mumbai.)

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David V. Miller's avatar

You should have just gotten rid of it. For years I replaced Gideon bibles with copies of "Letter to a Christian Nation", "The End of Faith", "The Missionary Position: Mother Theresa in Theory & Practice", "god is Not Great", "The god Delusion", "Outgrowing god", "Why I am Not a Christian", or "Does god Get Diarrhea?". Unfortunately, I don't have the DEEP POCKETS religionites have, so I stopped. After all, I get heavily taxed because I'm not a gazillionaires, nor am tax exempt as churche$ are.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Come to France, hotels are babble free.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Holy shit, is that an open invitation?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

If you wish to.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

With all my heart.

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Boreal's avatar

Yup.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yeah, that was unbelievable, talk about blaming the victims. (Who he kept in a cave telling them civilization was gone and they were the only survivors. When they were not, the lying pos.)

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

Those are just the tip of the iceberg.

Just goes to show rule 34 is as old as time.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

One look at that guy and his porn mustache, and I can hear a tape going on in his head: reject! Deflect! Project!

Let’s get rid of uncle Tom’s cabin! in it, good Christians are described as owning people and defending the owning of people. Surely, good Christians wouldn’t own other people?

I don’t have much this morning. These people just wear me out with their never-ending moral panics. They get panicked about everything except what’s important.

SIX news stories from the last two days:

Evan Alexander Geeslin of Indiana: huge Trump supporter and anti-pedophilia warrior. You’ll never guess what he was arrested for.

Bryan Crabtree, youth pastor at sulphur spring christian church. He wasn’t arrested this year, but last year. He was sentenced this year. Go Bryan! Oh, wait. You are!

Ross Denzer-Johnson of minnesota: teacher and youth pastor, he was arrested iand charged with three counts of molesting in a kid under 14. He admits there may have been more,, but he really can’t remember how many there were. I can answer that question: MORE.

Neal Harrison Creecy: arrested in Las Vegas as part of a child sex thing. Pastor at Redemption Church.

David Daniels, lead pastor of Central Bible church in Texas: resigned for reasons of moral failures. One hint is that it’s all about his alleged porn addiction. But there are intimations of even darker sexual sin questions, but who knows if it’s a live boy or a dead girl they were talking about, or simply watching pictures that he shouldn’t.

Mid-America Reformed Seminary Vice President for Advancement Michael Deckinga, 41, is being held at the Hammond, Indiana, city jail: and what is this Sterling example of moral rectitude being held for? Distribution of child pornography.

So, as far as I can tell, the current score for just the last two days is Christians five, drag queens zero.

And also meanwhile: Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein. And Epstein Epsteining Epsteinly.

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David V. Miller's avatar

I've been following daily news about pedophiles since 1987. I guesstimate in about 95% of cases it involves religionites and/or Republikan$. The correlation is so strong its become a kind of joke to me:

"Once AGAIN, yet ANOTHER pedophile is caught. Is the pedophile ___?

A- RELIGIOU$

B- REPUBLIKAN

C- BOTH

Hint: Only 1 answer is correct, all others only half correct."

I use this joke to taunt churchlings & Trumplings. To the point its been a moneymaker in bets. So far I've won about $700 betting with Trumpling/churchling relatives, co-workers & once even with a fellow train rider -- that any random pedophile in the newspaper is Republikan and/or religiou$. So far I have not lost a bet.

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Bensnewlogin's avatar

Not surprisingly, it doesn’t surprise me. I think in 2023, there were something like 300 in the new stories I came across: arrested, convicted, or sentenced.

Personally I think the answer is more along the lines of authoritarians and hyper conservative Christians. Both seem to me to be very tightly wound.

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Lynn Veit's avatar

Before this pathetic kkkrister stunt, how many folks in that community had any idea these books even existed, let alone were in their public library? Streisand anyone?

Back in the 80's, Lake City Florida banned a textbook that had excerpts from Lysistrata. Suddenly a play no one had likely heard of before was the most sought-after reading material in town.

I hope something similar happens in Shelbyville and the popularity of LGBTQ books goes through the roof.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

Commandment 8. You shall not steal, unless it is literature about a subject you are in denial about.

Commandment 9. You shall not bear false witness, unless it is about someone you don't like. And if you are a Republican President, you get up to 50 free lies a day.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

I wouldn’t be so reluctant to sanction Shitler’s daily lie allotment, if he could just mix in ONE FACT PER DAY.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

He managed at least 8 lies in one short message about voting on Monday. No facts.

As I read earlier today, politicians with popular policies don't need to resort to cheating the voting system.

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Walt Svirsky's avatar

Even when telling the truth will cause zero consternation in MAGATLAND, Shitler chooses to lie. It’s hardwired into his big fat pumpkin head.

Truth = Bad Lies = Good

So sayeth the spiders πŸ•·οΈ that are spinning their webs in his vacuous cranial vault.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

He does, his name.

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Linda Allewalt's avatar

I went down to the library yesterday and met with the director. I gave her $500 to cover the cost of the books, which they had already ordered. They have a board meeting (non public) in the next several days to discuss remedies with an attorney.

I've been keeping an eye on this group for at least three years on Facebook because I have been concerned about their activities. They have been active protestors at women's clinic, drag shows and even at the fall fest in Cynthiana where there is a "Witches Day Out" dance, which the community loves. In this current political environment, these church members feel quite emboldened to break the law and use their god as a defense. They are just bullies.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

A thousand thanks to you to protect freedom of reading.

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ericc's avatar
18hEdited

Great work, thanks.

One possible remedy to consider is some e-library partnership whereby your library members get free access to these books online. Online libraries exist, which allow temporary downloads, I'm just not sure of their rules for membership. But if you can make access simple/easy through a partnership, then they have the huge advantage that one person checking out a book doesn't prevent another person from checking it out at the same time.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

From what I remember of the library I went to, the borrower or the librarian had to enter the name and the library card number. Only 5 virtual copies of a same book could be borrowed and you could borrow from any library who was part of the same web. The rest of the conditions were the same as those for physical books, except the book was automatically erased from.your device once the time to give it back had expired.

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John Smith's avatar

You are doing very important work by protecting people’s right of Freedom of Speech (which includes reading any book a person wants to read).

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

πŸ‘πŸ‘β€οΈ

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

"Books containing stories of six-year-olds performing oral sex."

That's the real reason a pastor would want these books.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Sounds like ecclesiastical fapping material to me!

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larry parker's avatar

The library has one book that talks about the emissions of donkeys.

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Joe King's avatar

Isn't that the same book that says it's a good thing to get your dad drunk and get pregnant from him? With the long form erotic poem in the middle? And the ghost sex?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

And incest, several times.

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Holytape's avatar

Dear Christians,

Can you please find some other spokespeople. Every time, one of you complains about how the gays are coming after the kids, the person speaking looks like they have to legally stay at least 500 yards away from any school, playground or library. It's distracting. I want to point out how hypocritical this stance is, when the bible openly advocates selling your daughter to into sexual slavery, but his sex-dungeon from IKEA office is too distracting. I want to comment that 'abstinence-only sex' education doesn't lower the teen pregnancy rate, and often leads to situations were sexual assault victims are shamed into silence, but then I see his mustache. And then I have to waste my time, by pointing out that that mustache alone, is on the sexual offenders registry. So please, Christians, next time you want to complain about drag queens, or the gays or anything like that, don't select someone who looks like they have been kicked out of every petting zoo in a tri-state area. I want to actually talk about the damages your ideology causes and not the fact that your spokespeople look like they would be on a poor man's Epstein list.

Thank you for your time,

Holytape.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

I'm still waiting on genuine evidence of THE FIRST TIME the "gays are coming after the kids." And my suspicion is that I will be waiting a while...

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

If girls didn't try to take underpaid jobs men don't want, good christians wouldn't have to keep them pregnant and chained to the stove.

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Len Koz's avatar

You can't expect a good Christian man to make a sandwich, can you?

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

Or a bigot catholic woman, aka paternal grandmother.

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ericc's avatar

Jesus' words are an okay spokesperson. It's just that the rules they want to impose don't follow those words.

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Chris Titchmarsh's avatar

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20662dxl88o

Ex-priest found guilty of 17 indecent assaults. This is from the scandal that broke here in the UK in 1995. It took 30 years for justice to arrive.

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Len Koz's avatar

And I'm betting that ex-priest is not a drag queen. Do I win?

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