Another deeply disturbed, christian pervert who tries to justify his atrocious behavior by saying he offered transparent tape as an option! He needs at least 10 years to think this over. It sounds like something from the 1800s. The fierce teacher or principal enforcing obedient behavior (obedience to them). Spare the rod, spoil the child, a child should be seen not heard…These religious nuts need a big dose of reality.
Remember when SCOTUS member Alito quoted from a writer and preacher from the 1600's, I believe his last name was Hale, who advocated for burning women at the stake as witches.
Going back to the '50's (or even earlier back to the '40's and '30's) is what they want to have happen; all three of those decades had children treated like Raymond treated these children at the school he was employed at.
For me, this kind of love for the past was apparent and shown in two separate postings I came across on the internet (one an article/blog post and one a long BBS entry) that show a longing for said 'simpler times' with regards to old and new TV shows:
Yeah. Today there are much more politically neutral tape options, like 3M Blue Tape. It's great for painting and all purpose child punishment. Safe, easy to remove, and leaves no residue...er, evidence.
I am skeptical that holding someone else's 4-year-old upside down and shaking them into near-unconsciousness was *ever* acceptable, in any era. The difference between now and the 1800s is that today we hand the case over to the courts, whereas in the 1800s he probably would've just got shot or had the everliving crap beat out of him by a parent.
The usual question is: Who does this to kids? Sadly, the inevitable answer is: Christians who are convinced of their own rectitude. Taping their mouths over? WRAPPING said tape around their heads? I have to wonder if Raymond has kids of his own and whether he would treat them in the same fashion, or worse: is he an aficionado of the Pearls and To Train Up a Child.
Thankfully, the law has not been inattentive ... and I hope they throw the book at him.
Sickening, and what makes it worse is the fact things like this are so common we've become largely desensitized to it. Guys like this always see themselves as the good guys, and the victims of persecution should anyone attempt to hold them accountable. I don't have much respect for the parents who would send their children to a school operated by this man. They are the ones who facilitate the abusers.
At some point children have rights too, and no parent has the right to give another person permission to abuse their child. I have a feeling there are some seriously messed up kids coming out of that school.
Except the parents clearly did mind in some cases, since they've gone after him legally. Not that Raymond being a liar as well comes as any kind of surprise, really.
Because what is more anti-Christian than prison time for an unrepentant child abuser. Cruelty to juveniles? Call it what it is. 𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗲. Just because he did it in the name of his god doesn't mean that that is not what it is. I predict he will have a bad time in prison, child abusers are not treated well.
Was thinking similar. He’ll probably receive a similar treatment from his fellow inmates. That’s the only thing that will possibly change his attitude.
Sadly that is an urban myth. An online friend who worked in prisons said, they fare no worse than anyone else. He never could figure out how that rumor got started.
I fucking hate Slidell, I had the misfortune to live in that hell hole but thankfully not for long. When I first heard this story I said "I bet this dude is from Slidell." Lo and behold, I was right.
I had an even bigger misfortune of living in the even bigger hell hole of Picayune MS, just over the state line, for many years, with Slidell still being the hub for me.
My albeit limited experience in juries leads me to believe that they probably reached a provisional unanimous vote in under 5 minutes. Then decided that for due diligence purposes, they should review all the evidence and arguments in case they missed something, before making it official.
Only the dirty pervs in the LGBTQ community would take issue with his disciplinary actions. Those woke give mind people are sparing the rod and therefore the kids are turning gay transgender furries looking for litter boxes. If he gets to do what’s necessary those kids’ll never go wrong, just like him.
They are slightly different things. Discriminating against LGBT+ folks is what he wants to do if elected to office. Beating kids is what he does do in his teaching position.
This guy thinks it's the 'woke' agenda that is against him abusing someone else's kids? What happened to parental rights? I thought that was a Republican thing?
Oh right, those parents are part of the 'woke' agenda too and we probably need to take action against them. /s
Whenever a headline starts “Christian pastor” I assume it involves child abuse and I am almost never wrong, the exceptions being when they are doing bigotry and hatred.
"They were never in any physical pain. Their breathing was never impaired."
Sounds like IT'S NOT TORTURE!!! I'd like to see him subjected to the same treatment he visited on children. Wonder if he'd still view it as painless and not being smothered. Need I really ask?
I have had allergies and nasal congestion all my life. If someone put tape over my mouth, I would probably have a panic attack. Please, FA folks, do not look down on me for being a partial mouth breather!
But, but...where's the evil drag queen in this story?
I gotta say I'm somewhat surprised with the conservatives around him because 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛'𝑡 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑖 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙. The GOP picking him over another conservative with no police record. His lawyer trying an essentially useless defense. Sheesh, what's the world coming to when the local GOP doesn't even evil well.
"This town needs a better class of crim...conservative."
I tell them: "It's your claim. Burden of proof is on you, not me. Have fun finding the evidence to back up your personal assertion. Be sure to let me know when you do. THEN we'll talk."
Someone used that “find it yourself” tactic not too long ago to defend all those Jan 6 “tourists”. I even called him out on it, and he just reverted to “No, YOU!”
Heck, even the supposed "truths" about God (like him getting a young girl pregnant, destroying two entire cities for the actions of a few people in them, etc.) don't exactly make the G-man come off too well.
Another deeply disturbed, christian pervert who tries to justify his atrocious behavior by saying he offered transparent tape as an option! He needs at least 10 years to think this over. It sounds like something from the 1800s. The fierce teacher or principal enforcing obedient behavior (obedience to them). Spare the rod, spoil the child, a child should be seen not heard…These religious nuts need a big dose of reality.
Another proof they want to get back to when "America was great again" not in the 1950's but the 1850's.
Some want to go back to the 1650's.
Remember when SCOTUS member Alito quoted from a writer and preacher from the 1600's, I believe his last name was Hale, who advocated for burning women at the stake as witches.
Bingo. You won a no prize.
Alito sure does.
I don't disagree, but these 'correcting child behavior' methods were around in the 1940's and 50's.
Going back to the '50's (or even earlier back to the '40's and '30's) is what they want to have happen; all three of those decades had children treated like Raymond treated these children at the school he was employed at.
For me, this kind of love for the past was apparent and shown in two separate postings I came across on the internet (one an article/blog post and one a long BBS entry) that show a longing for said 'simpler times' with regards to old and new TV shows:
Well I Heard Mister Young Sing About Her (https://classictvhistory.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/well-i-heard-mister-young-sing-about-her/ )
Is the b&w era of TV on DVD slowly coming to an end? (https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/is-the-b-w-era-of-tv-on-dvd-slowly-coming-to-an-end.311401/page-23 )
Rolling Stone's "100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time"(https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/rolling-stones-100-greatest-tv-shows-of-all-time.349546/)
Yeah. Today there are much more politically neutral tape options, like 3M Blue Tape. It's great for painting and all purpose child punishment. Safe, easy to remove, and leaves no residue...er, evidence.
Now THERE’S a good marketing idea!
I am skeptical that holding someone else's 4-year-old upside down and shaking them into near-unconsciousness was *ever* acceptable, in any era. The difference between now and the 1800s is that today we hand the case over to the courts, whereas in the 1800s he probably would've just got shot or had the everliving crap beat out of him by a parent.
But, but... that's a vital method for exorcism!
An exorcism is not going to get rid of a child's demons. It has a high probability of giving zir a few, though.
Some of this is Southern ways of child care. I know, my father came from North Carolina.
I'm more inclined to give them a gasoline bath and offer them a cigarette.
And matches thrown to them from a safe distance?
Fwoosh.
The GOP remains a welcome home for psychopaths and narcissists.
The usual question is: Who does this to kids? Sadly, the inevitable answer is: Christians who are convinced of their own rectitude. Taping their mouths over? WRAPPING said tape around their heads? I have to wonder if Raymond has kids of his own and whether he would treat them in the same fashion, or worse: is he an aficionado of the Pearls and To Train Up a Child.
Thankfully, the law has not been inattentive ... and I hope they throw the book at him.
I got the same thought.
The people doing things like that to kids have usually been in the recieving end of cruelity when they were young.
Sickening, and what makes it worse is the fact things like this are so common we've become largely desensitized to it. Guys like this always see themselves as the good guys, and the victims of persecution should anyone attempt to hold them accountable. I don't have much respect for the parents who would send their children to a school operated by this man. They are the ones who facilitate the abusers.
SOME people may have become desensitized to it. I don't think any of us have, or we wouldn't be here.
Definitely not in this community, you're right. Things like this just make me hate organized religion all the more.
Ditto, hurting helpless children is the worst.
One of his excuses was that the parents didn't mind. As if that is the arbiter of what is acceptable in the eyes of the law!
At some point children have rights too, and no parent has the right to give another person permission to abuse their child. I have a feeling there are some seriously messed up kids coming out of that school.
Except the parents clearly did mind in some cases, since they've gone after him legally. Not that Raymond being a liar as well comes as any kind of surprise, really.
I'm WAY less concerned with protecting children from the trans agenda than protecting them from abusive assholes like him.
That's because you have the good sense to know the difference between made-up dangers and actual ones.
Yes. It's always projection with these assholes.
𝐻𝑒’𝑙𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑙𝑎𝑏𝑒𝑙 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑗𝑢𝑟𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑠 “𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖-𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛.”
Because what is more anti-Christian than prison time for an unrepentant child abuser. Cruelty to juveniles? Call it what it is. 𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗲. Just because he did it in the name of his god doesn't mean that that is not what it is. I predict he will have a bad time in prison, child abusers are not treated well.
He will proselytize them, and will probably be the prison snitch.
That would be very unhealthly.
Do inmates have the right to own tape ?
Was thinking similar. He’ll probably receive a similar treatment from his fellow inmates. That’s the only thing that will possibly change his attitude.
Yes, he could be shouting the Christian equivalent of “Allahu Akhbar!” As he righteously slits the throats of giggling children.
Sadly that is an urban myth. An online friend who worked in prisons said, they fare no worse than anyone else. He never could figure out how that rumor got started.
I fucking hate Slidell, I had the misfortune to live in that hell hole but thankfully not for long. When I first heard this story I said "I bet this dude is from Slidell." Lo and behold, I was right.
I had an even bigger misfortune of living in the even bigger hell hole of Picayune MS, just over the state line, for many years, with Slidell still being the hub for me.
Remember Bob Slidell? From Office Space?
An hour, eh? That's pretty darned quick. Good.
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The time the jury deliberated in Raymond's case. Says something about the evidence against him, I would say. Says something about HIM, too.
My albeit limited experience in juries leads me to believe that they probably reached a provisional unanimous vote in under 5 minutes. Then decided that for due diligence purposes, they should review all the evidence and arguments in case they missed something, before making it official.
Or if they delayed the verdict a bit longer, the county would provide lunch? I’m going with that!
Maybe sometimes there IS such a thing as a free lunch! 😁
Maybe I missed something, but having read the article, I fail to see where gay people (whom Raymond loathes) were involved in his abuse of kids.
As always, it's the guys with God on their lips and hate in their hearts that are the danger to children.
Only the dirty pervs in the LGBTQ community would take issue with his disciplinary actions. Those woke give mind people are sparing the rod and therefore the kids are turning gay transgender furries looking for litter boxes. If he gets to do what’s necessary those kids’ll never go wrong, just like him.
When the police have unlimited power, the police will NEVER make mistakes.
Hatriots.
They are slightly different things. Discriminating against LGBT+ folks is what he wants to do if elected to office. Beating kids is what he does do in his teaching position.
Cu jeezyboy HATES compassion and equality. The biggest bigot in the universe
Another GOP Perv bites the dust.
This guy thinks it's the 'woke' agenda that is against him abusing someone else's kids? What happened to parental rights? I thought that was a Republican thing?
Oh right, those parents are part of the 'woke' agenda too and we probably need to take action against them. /s
Parental rights to keep silent if you disagree with him.
Whenever a headline starts “Christian pastor” I assume it involves child abuse and I am almost never wrong, the exceptions being when they are doing bigotry and hatred.
Sometimes it involves child abuse, bigotry, AND hatred.
They are multidimensional that way.
And yet so one dimensional in every other way.
"They were never in any physical pain. Their breathing was never impaired."
Sounds like IT'S NOT TORTURE!!! I'd like to see him subjected to the same treatment he visited on children. Wonder if he'd still view it as painless and not being smothered. Need I really ask?
I have had allergies and nasal congestion all my life. If someone put tape over my mouth, I would probably have a panic attack. Please, FA folks, do not look down on me for being a partial mouth breather!
Ditto here.
Didn't the victims say that taking off the tape was painful?
Yup. Raymond is lying through his teeth, just like his orange-tinted hero.
But, but...where's the evil drag queen in this story?
I gotta say I'm somewhat surprised with the conservatives around him because 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛'𝑡 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑀𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑖 𝑤𝑒𝑙𝑙. The GOP picking him over another conservative with no police record. His lawyer trying an essentially useless defense. Sheesh, what's the world coming to when the local GOP doesn't even evil well.
"This town needs a better class of crim...conservative."
He saved us all from the Drag Queens those kids would have become had they not been properly disciplined now.
May Raymond never be allowed around kids again after his sentence has been served. Authorities need to keep tabs on him then.
THIS.
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Also: “There is overwhelming proof but I won’t provide any and force you to waste your time searching for it instead.”
I tell them: "It's your claim. Burden of proof is on you, not me. Have fun finding the evidence to back up your personal assertion. Be sure to let me know when you do. THEN we'll talk."
Doesn’t work. The whistling sound your words make when they go in one ear and out the other should clue you in.
The eyes glazing over is usually a giveaway.
Someone used that “find it yourself” tactic not too long ago to defend all those Jan 6 “tourists”. I even called him out on it, and he just reverted to “No, YOU!”
Tourists don't smear shit on the walls. At least if they're more than 2 years old.
They get loud and nasty, I just shake my head and walk away.
Yeah, they say something like just look around you – how can you not believe?
Come sit by me.
Heck, even the supposed "truths" about God (like him getting a young girl pregnant, destroying two entire cities for the actions of a few people in them, etc.) don't exactly make the G-man come off too well.