Shift the Atmosphere weren't kicked out for being Christians. They were shown the door because they were being asshat Christians who could not be bothered to follow the rules and regs laid down by Burning Man, never mind being the unneeded irritant that proselytizing Christians are almost without exception.
They thought they could operate on their own volition. They learned otherwise.
If they had actually followed the rules, they would have been allowed to continue being an irritant. But nope. They think the Free Exercise Clause applies everywhere without restriction and only for them.
If truth was the product of belief, we would be living on a flat earth at the center of the universe. These people would be going out of their tiny little minds had any religion they disagree with trying to force their views on them. They have an enormous blind spot where their own hypocrisy is concerned. What makes everything worse, in my view, is the fact these Christians cannot prove a word of what they’re preaching. They cannot even provide definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed.
Facing consequences for your lawlessness is not persecution. Being expelled for egregious violations of sensible rules is not hatred of Christianity. Being an asshat can be cured if you were to remember the Golden Rule. You do have a bible, right? That particular teaching of your Lord and Savior is in there, I promise.
And another thing: targeting children is predatory. It gives a certain "youth pastor" vibe, if you know what I mean.
You don't like your kid being messed with? DON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S KID! And if you ARE stupid enough to do such a phenomenally foolish thing, don't try crying to mama when you get your ass kicked.
You were asked to leave because of your behavior. Why didn't you do what your savior told you to do and simply leave, shaking the dust from your feet? Why does everything have to be a row and involve further disobedience?
"The parent then said they tried to take their child into a separate side room with a closed door flap to wtness a baptism without even asking the parents first."
Sounds like kidnapping to me. Wouldn't be the first time xtians resorted to kidnapping.
If that were my kid, whoever did such a thing would be made to regret it, right there and right then. I've said it many times: sometimes there's a price for being stupid.
Most likely a lie. He probably assumed consent because "I came up to them to talk, I had a camera, and they never said stop filming!" That's their whole approach: assume consent until emphatically told no. There was also probably the assumption that since it was in an open space, it was public with no expectation of privacy, regardless of the rules set forth by the organizers. These street preacher types need to learn the difference between public and private.
For these missionaries consent is implicit. If you don't want to be filmed or touched you have to explicitely opt-out. I'm afraid they think the same about consent for sex.
The fact that they knowingly lie is proof they do not really believe. They know it's just a con job. The low level followers can actually be fooled into blindly believing. If we can open their eyes the leaders will lose.
I find the whole idea of Burning Man to be pretentious. If you want to change things then you do it in the real world. But, each to their own. If you aren't willing to follow the rules then you should get the boot. That's not persecution.
Shift the Atmosphere weren't kicked out for being Christians. They were shown the door because they were being asshat Christians who could not be bothered to follow the rules and regs laid down by Burning Man, never mind being the unneeded irritant that proselytizing Christians are almost without exception.
They thought they could operate on their own volition. They learned otherwise.
If they had actually followed the rules, they would have been allowed to continue being an irritant. But nope. They think the Free Exercise Clause applies everywhere without restriction and only for them.
Pre-CISE-ly!
If truth was the product of belief, we would be living on a flat earth at the center of the universe. These people would be going out of their tiny little minds had any religion they disagree with trying to force their views on them. They have an enormous blind spot where their own hypocrisy is concerned. What makes everything worse, in my view, is the fact these Christians cannot prove a word of what they’re preaching. They cannot even provide definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed.
𝐴𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑏𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑎𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑖𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ. 𝐴𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡. 𝐴𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑒 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑐𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛.
Another day ending in "y"".
Mr Hineman:
Facing consequences for your lawlessness is not persecution. Being expelled for egregious violations of sensible rules is not hatred of Christianity. Being an asshat can be cured if you were to remember the Golden Rule. You do have a bible, right? That particular teaching of your Lord and Savior is in there, I promise.
And another thing: targeting children is predatory. It gives a certain "youth pastor" vibe, if you know what I mean.
This is where I cite the Confucian version of the Golden Rule:
𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑛𝑜𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑦𝑜𝑢, 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑑𝑜 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟.
You don't like your kid being messed with? DON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE ELSE'S KID! And if you ARE stupid enough to do such a phenomenally foolish thing, don't try crying to mama when you get your ass kicked.
To Shit the Atmosphere...
You were asked to leave because of your behavior. Why didn't you do what your savior told you to do and simply leave, shaking the dust from your feet? Why does everything have to be a row and involve further disobedience?
They didn't read that part of the bible. They never do, sorta like with Matthew 6:5-6. Stuff like that simply doesn't exist to them.
"The parent then said they tried to take their child into a separate side room with a closed door flap to wtness a baptism without even asking the parents first."
Sounds like kidnapping to me. Wouldn't be the first time xtians resorted to kidnapping.
If that were my kid, whoever did such a thing would be made to regret it, right there and right then. I've said it many times: sometimes there's a price for being stupid.
“Christians” who played the victim card are usually those who are making others genuine victims.
𝐻𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.
Most likely a lie. He probably assumed consent because "I came up to them to talk, I had a camera, and they never said stop filming!" That's their whole approach: assume consent until emphatically told no. There was also probably the assumption that since it was in an open space, it was public with no expectation of privacy, regardless of the rules set forth by the organizers. These street preacher types need to learn the difference between public and private.
For these missionaries consent is implicit. If you don't want to be filmed or touched you have to explicitely opt-out. I'm afraid they think the same about consent for sex.
𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑎𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑢𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑝. 𝐴𝑝𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑏𝑎𝑝𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑚𝑠 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑚𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑡𝑢𝑏𝑠… 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝐵𝑢𝑟𝑛𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑀𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑝𝑜𝑜𝑙𝑠 𝑜𝑟 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑠, 𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑚𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑎𝑑𝑎’𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑐𝑜𝑑𝑒.
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𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑎𝑑𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑅𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑔𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟, “𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑅𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟𝑠… 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑓𝑖𝑙𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑔.”
Hoo boy. Spreading disease AND lying to law enforcement. Why am I not surprised?
They got the boot because they're enemanozzels, not because of their particular faith perspective.
Victimhood is strong with these ones.
Xtians: rules for thee but not for me.
Well, despite all of their transgressions, all they have to do is tell Jesus that they are sorry and all will be forgiven. See how easy it is?
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Lying liars lie. Film at 11.
The fact that they knowingly lie is proof they do not really believe. They know it's just a con job. The low level followers can actually be fooled into blindly believing. If we can open their eyes the leaders will lose.
I find the whole idea of Burning Man to be pretentious. If you want to change things then you do it in the real world. But, each to their own. If you aren't willing to follow the rules then you should get the boot. That's not persecution.