He is actually showing us the hate that kkkristerism is founded on. Sin is the cudgel used by religious superstition to pound hatred into the hearts of their followers.
Why have the authorities shirked their duties? Perhaps the Justice Dept needs to investigate the local authorities who seem to be flouting child protective laws.
If I remember correctly, CPS has made several visits to their home, each time concluding that "everything's fine," even when red flags have gone up.
One of the articles I read on this talked about his wife telling CPS that the kids were hiding food, so she punished them. CPS didn't follow up to find out WHY they were hiding food, just blamed on the kids growing up - yes, it was that, but ALSO because they weren't getting fed, as punishment, and not fed enough when they were. There was no reason why they shouldn't have been fed enough.
One of my sons had a girlfriend whose mother withheld food. She — the GF — was a nice young woman who had some seriously weird ideas about “normal”. I wasn’t too upset when my son broke up with her. In my long family tradition of taking in stray cats, hungry and abused children, and other folk in need of some help, my bride and I are still in touch with the ex-GF, giving her career advice and assistance and personal finance advice.
During Covid we took in a homeless 20 year old that my younger son vaguely knew who then lived with us for more than 3 years. She told us that we were the best parents she ever had.
Well during the Middle Ages when Christianity was in complete control they had the Great Chain of Being that God placed you on at birth. Started at the top with God, then Pope, Emperor, Kings, Aristocrats, Merchants, Peasants (all men so far), horses, cattle, women, children... And each level could beat the hell out of the one lower. King James totally agreed with this and the Divine Right of Kings is baked into his Bible which he had translated according to his beliefs while executing several scholars who dared to translate it without his input. By the way King James was very Gay and his love letters are available. Currently reading THE KING'S ASSASSIN by Benjamin Woolley about the Duke of Buckingham.
I watched the mini-series about that. It was exaggerated (probablly) but entertaining, and apparently he wrote letters to one guy about how upset he was that he wouldn't spend the night w/him anymore. Like WTAF dude?! LMAO!! He just wanted sleepovers. Like a lot of them.
To help give you some context, he's in Tempe, Arizona. Tempe is sandwiched between Phoenix and "Little Salt Lake" Mesa. The religious influence here is near-absolute, it's a good chunk of the reason the state is so red most of the time to begin with.
The LDS influence in Mesa doesn't want CPS taking kids for the most part. CPS is also, to the best of my knowledge, understaffed, underfunded, and struggling with a tidal wave of cases. Many times, if someone hasn't been rushed to the ER, the caseworkers wind up prioritizing others who have been. I would also guess that Anderson's congregation has to some extent been shielding him from the law, and pretending everything's just fine.
I would like nothing better than for the Justice Dept. to come in and investigate that whole ball of insanity plus a few more problems around here. You'll note that I haven't turned blue from holding my breath, though.
Good point. In all this I appreciate the mandated reporters. I am one despite being harassed and threatened by the parents I reported because my sicko boss informed them it was me. This story you reported is extreme organized religion in a nutshell. The “preacher” with his bigoted hate using guilt and fear of the devil to lead his flock. Of course he snagged some lost woman he knew for 2 weeks and used her as a baby machine to produce a dozen babies. Then abused and tortured them all.
How do you think the authorities treat their own families? Over 40% of police officers have ADMITTED to committing domestic violence. How many more won't admit to abuse?
I do feel like I am missing out on life. According to these right-wing nutjobs, there are Satan-worshipping trans-sexual everywhere. They are in the schools. They are in the libraries. They are churches. They are everywhere. And yet, I have yet to meet any of these interesting people. I feel like my life is incomplete. I know a few trans people and they are so normal they are boring. They hold normal jobs. They have normal lives. They aren't trying to destroy western society. They are just such normal and boring people. I would like to just meet one satanic transexual determined to reduce civilization to a smoldering ash heap. Just one.
It was, sadly, a foregone conclusion that this particular sack of rancid asshair masquerading as a human being would turn out to be an abusive parent as well as just abusive in general. People with that much hate at the core of their public persona don't just park it on a shelf when they walk through their own front door. I have a sneaking suspicion that we've far from seen the end of this- or that we've even seen the worst of it yet, awful as what we already know is. If he's driven three of his children away, in fear of their lives, then it's a moneyback guarantee he's taking his fury out on the ones who remain- and will continue to do so until they escape too, or are finally rescued from that horror show he presumes to call a home.
I fear he will circle the wagons and lash out like a cornered snake. Which will lead to one of their deaths. I do not wish that, I hope they do get out/rescued. But there’s a good chance it will run out for the worst for one of them.
Does anyone know how old the youngest child is? That's the one with the best chance of leading a semi-normal life, if rescued early enough. Or the one in the most danger if left. That's just my thinking on the matter.
"Because the next oldest child is still a minor, we may not see more video interviews anytime soon, but Jordan hopes these stories will pierce Anderson’s armor among his most ardent followers. And maybe they’ll do even more than that. "
Not bloody likely. As with Trump, Anderson's appeal is that he is an awful person that appeals to other awful people. Why would anybody be surprised about any of this?
I discovered Dead Domain’s channel when they visited an IFB church and secretly recorded their interactions with church members including several hate pastors. Great exposé. I’m so glad for the children who have escaped an abusive home. I hope the others escape as well.
I was a Social Worker for Children's Services. With the little I have seen and heard, those children should definitely have been removed. I lived in fear like that. It still has an effect on me today at 68. Leaving kids in that situation is WRONG and I suspect is illegal. The kids should sue the county/state for allowing on-going abuse. This is ridiculous! I hope people keep reporting him and the wife.
When people convince themselves they're operating under divine sanction, they're capable of any horror. The mentality that drove the Inquisition lives in this vile man. As awful as he is, the real problem lies with the people who delegate their thinking to him, and enable him by keeping him funded. I became an atheist nearly sixty years ago, and stories like this reaffirm what a good decision that was.
It is fair to attack grown people, no matter who their parents are, for being Nazis and bigots. Isaac may be young, but it seems like he’s an adult making adult statements.
Is it possible that we wouldn’t even blink an eye at Isaac if his father wasn’t Steven Anderson? Maybe, maybe not. Steven got the attention he has by being just as vocal with his hatred as Isaac is. He could have gotten his own attention just by being a Nazi.
Acting as though the three children who have left the home are young children is doing them a disservice. But it is typical of Christianity, specifically fundamentalist Christianity, to infantilize everyone.
Shelley’s comments about women all being irrational, talkative and dumb doesn’t even deserve attention. It is just a weak man’s attempt at cutting down others to appear bigger and stronger. Sexism, racism and general bigotry is all about small people trying to control how they’re perceived or to gain power they don’t deserve nor cannot handle.
I hope all these children can get away and find good lives without the bigotry and hatred of their parents. I’m not surprised by any of the allegations brought up by them, I might have been wrong to do it, but I assumed as much the moment I heard he had children.
Sometimes I think it is hereditary in some part. Like me, my daughter is Gay. Given his stance on the death of Gays, I would bet he is VERY DEEPLY closeted. I often think the louder the screams, the more deeply embedded the Gay desires.
The MAGAt fuckstick mayor who illegally removed his Wisconsin town's only ballot drop box accomplished nothing, besides looking stupid in a hard hat while trying to steal an election, as the box has now been returned and properly secured to the ground to prevent tampering.
There should be a strap around that size load too. And if he really wanted to be convincing, he should have put on a flannel shirt or a pair of coveralls.
I was about to reply that he could have used a dolly*, but he probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to get it on a dolly without picking it up and putting it on one.
What he got his 15 minutes of fame and took a swing at that widespread voter fraud that's definitely going to happen. Maybe we can get someone to put on a fake Fox News returns show and tell Donnie he won. His tapioca is so far gone it could be months before he realizes the truth.
"When it came to hitting his wife, Anderson told Shelley that anything he did to her “was consensual and that it was behind closed doors.”
^^^^ Umm........ consensual?
Mr. Anderson: please provide proof that your wife consented to being physically abused. You fuckin cowardly prick. REAL men do not hit their wives and children.
I'm honestly amazed that malevolent hobgoblin knew how to 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘤𝘦 the word "consensual," let alone to use it correctly in a sentence. Nothing else he's ever said offers any indication that he even understands the concept.
He's been coached on specific words to be use in his responses. And he knows the word consensual is a high value word.
Actually, in his warped mind he probably thinks it is consensual - I wouldn't be surprised if they have a marital contract that gives him permission to hit her. The Duggars have a contract that allows for punishment. It's discussed in Happy Shiny People. These fucked up "contracts" are not unusually for whack job Fundamentalists.
Gee, what a surprise...this skunk and his wife -- married after a two-week romance -- beat the hell out of their kids.
Talk about immense hatred for all of humanity there.
Very Christian of them.
What Would Jesus Do?
SMH.
He is actually showing us the hate that kkkristerism is founded on. Sin is the cudgel used by religious superstition to pound hatred into the hearts of their followers.
SUPERSTITION sums up ALL religions!!!
WWJD? Oh, something pretty similar to the actions of the skunk.
Why have the authorities shirked their duties? Perhaps the Justice Dept needs to investigate the local authorities who seem to be flouting child protective laws.
Well, you see, he's a christian. And christian = good. Therefore investigation concluded.
A similar formula worked for Cosby.
When Cosby went to prison, he changed from Methodist to Scientologist. Here's the bizarre reason why
bet.com/article/hi334x/report-bill-cosby-joining-new-religion-before-prison
Holy shit! I had no idea. Thanks for sharing.
"He's hoping to use it to 'control' the inmates." In other words, he wasn't going to have access to Quaaludes. Well...easy access anyways.
If I remember correctly, CPS has made several visits to their home, each time concluding that "everything's fine," even when red flags have gone up.
One of the articles I read on this talked about his wife telling CPS that the kids were hiding food, so she punished them. CPS didn't follow up to find out WHY they were hiding food, just blamed on the kids growing up - yes, it was that, but ALSO because they weren't getting fed, as punishment, and not fed enough when they were. There was no reason why they shouldn't have been fed enough.
One of my sons had a girlfriend whose mother withheld food. She — the GF — was a nice young woman who had some seriously weird ideas about “normal”. I wasn’t too upset when my son broke up with her. In my long family tradition of taking in stray cats, hungry and abused children, and other folk in need of some help, my bride and I are still in touch with the ex-GF, giving her career advice and assistance and personal finance advice.
During Covid we took in a homeless 20 year old that my younger son vaguely knew who then lived with us for more than 3 years. She told us that we were the best parents she ever had.
Wonderful! I needed to feel good story today.
May I ask what country you live in?
Wow! Good for you, I know this post is old, but I'm still catching up on some very noteworthy post & feel this is an exception.
Just goes to show X-tians don't have a monopoly on charity.
The most serious punishment I gave my Dogesses was a few minutes of time-out for them to cool down.
Fuck, it took months for Rhapsodie to stop forcing herself to finish her meals because she feared there wouldn't be a next one.
Well during the Middle Ages when Christianity was in complete control they had the Great Chain of Being that God placed you on at birth. Started at the top with God, then Pope, Emperor, Kings, Aristocrats, Merchants, Peasants (all men so far), horses, cattle, women, children... And each level could beat the hell out of the one lower. King James totally agreed with this and the Divine Right of Kings is baked into his Bible which he had translated according to his beliefs while executing several scholars who dared to translate it without his input. By the way King James was very Gay and his love letters are available. Currently reading THE KING'S ASSASSIN by Benjamin Woolley about the Duke of Buckingham.
???
I watched the mini-series about that. It was exaggerated (probablly) but entertaining, and apparently he wrote letters to one guy about how upset he was that he wouldn't spend the night w/him anymore. Like WTAF dude?! LMAO!! He just wanted sleepovers. Like a lot of them.
The cops are probably parishioners.
To help give you some context, he's in Tempe, Arizona. Tempe is sandwiched between Phoenix and "Little Salt Lake" Mesa. The religious influence here is near-absolute, it's a good chunk of the reason the state is so red most of the time to begin with.
The LDS influence in Mesa doesn't want CPS taking kids for the most part. CPS is also, to the best of my knowledge, understaffed, underfunded, and struggling with a tidal wave of cases. Many times, if someone hasn't been rushed to the ER, the caseworkers wind up prioritizing others who have been. I would also guess that Anderson's congregation has to some extent been shielding him from the law, and pretending everything's just fine.
I would like nothing better than for the Justice Dept. to come in and investigate that whole ball of insanity plus a few more problems around here. You'll note that I haven't turned blue from holding my breath, though.
Good point. In all this I appreciate the mandated reporters. I am one despite being harassed and threatened by the parents I reported because my sicko boss informed them it was me. This story you reported is extreme organized religion in a nutshell. The “preacher” with his bigoted hate using guilt and fear of the devil to lead his flock. Of course he snagged some lost woman he knew for 2 weeks and used her as a baby machine to produce a dozen babies. Then abused and tortured them all.
How do you think the authorities treat their own families? Over 40% of police officers have ADMITTED to committing domestic violence. How many more won't admit to abuse?
I do feel like I am missing out on life. According to these right-wing nutjobs, there are Satan-worshipping trans-sexual everywhere. They are in the schools. They are in the libraries. They are churches. They are everywhere. And yet, I have yet to meet any of these interesting people. I feel like my life is incomplete. I know a few trans people and they are so normal they are boring. They hold normal jobs. They have normal lives. They aren't trying to destroy western society. They are just such normal and boring people. I would like to just meet one satanic transexual determined to reduce civilization to a smoldering ash heap. Just one.
I have a trans son. He is boringly normal. Sorry to disappoint.
It's all your fault. Why did you have to be a loving and understanding parent ?
(hangs head in shame)
My son's boyfriend is an artist (acting and singing). My grandkids love him. What did I do wrong?
And they are having huge orgies all over the place – to which I have never been invited. You know who you are.
At my age all I could do is watch. 8^(
It was, sadly, a foregone conclusion that this particular sack of rancid asshair masquerading as a human being would turn out to be an abusive parent as well as just abusive in general. People with that much hate at the core of their public persona don't just park it on a shelf when they walk through their own front door. I have a sneaking suspicion that we've far from seen the end of this- or that we've even seen the worst of it yet, awful as what we already know is. If he's driven three of his children away, in fear of their lives, then it's a moneyback guarantee he's taking his fury out on the ones who remain- and will continue to do so until they escape too, or are finally rescued from that horror show he presumes to call a home.
I fear he will circle the wagons and lash out like a cornered snake. Which will lead to one of their deaths. I do not wish that, I hope they do get out/rescued. But there’s a good chance it will run out for the worst for one of them.
Does anyone know how old the youngest child is? That's the one with the best chance of leading a semi-normal life, if rescued early enough. Or the one in the most danger if left. That's just my thinking on the matter.
There are more red flags with this family than there are in a Soviet May Day parade.
👏🏻🥰👏🏻🥰👏🏻🥰
No child should fear their father. Anderson thinks pissing against a wall makes a man. A man loves and supports his kids, no matter what.
If CPS (whatever they're called in AZ) doesn't investigate and intervene now. I can only presume the Good Ol' Boy network saved him.
The Religion of Love, everyone.
The love of sadistic terrorism
"Because the next oldest child is still a minor, we may not see more video interviews anytime soon, but Jordan hopes these stories will pierce Anderson’s armor among his most ardent followers. And maybe they’ll do even more than that. "
Not bloody likely. As with Trump, Anderson's appeal is that he is an awful person that appeals to other awful people. Why would anybody be surprised about any of this?
I discovered Dead Domain’s channel when they visited an IFB church and secretly recorded their interactions with church members including several hate pastors. Great exposé. I’m so glad for the children who have escaped an abusive home. I hope the others escape as well.
I was a Social Worker for Children's Services. With the little I have seen and heard, those children should definitely have been removed. I lived in fear like that. It still has an effect on me today at 68. Leaving kids in that situation is WRONG and I suspect is illegal. The kids should sue the county/state for allowing on-going abuse. This is ridiculous! I hope people keep reporting him and the wife.
Steven "Don't Tase Me, Bro" Anderson, one of the very first entries in the Encyclopedia of American Loons." So early he didn't even have his beard yet
americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/05/6-steven-anderson.html
And as you might expect, he also has a RationalWiki entry
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Steven_Anderson
When people convince themselves they're operating under divine sanction, they're capable of any horror. The mentality that drove the Inquisition lives in this vile man. As awful as he is, the real problem lies with the people who delegate their thinking to him, and enable him by keeping him funded. I became an atheist nearly sixty years ago, and stories like this reaffirm what a good decision that was.
It is fair to attack grown people, no matter who their parents are, for being Nazis and bigots. Isaac may be young, but it seems like he’s an adult making adult statements.
Is it possible that we wouldn’t even blink an eye at Isaac if his father wasn’t Steven Anderson? Maybe, maybe not. Steven got the attention he has by being just as vocal with his hatred as Isaac is. He could have gotten his own attention just by being a Nazi.
Acting as though the three children who have left the home are young children is doing them a disservice. But it is typical of Christianity, specifically fundamentalist Christianity, to infantilize everyone.
Shelley’s comments about women all being irrational, talkative and dumb doesn’t even deserve attention. It is just a weak man’s attempt at cutting down others to appear bigger and stronger. Sexism, racism and general bigotry is all about small people trying to control how they’re perceived or to gain power they don’t deserve nor cannot handle.
I hope all these children can get away and find good lives without the bigotry and hatred of their parents. I’m not surprised by any of the allegations brought up by them, I might have been wrong to do it, but I assumed as much the moment I heard he had children.
They will need years of therapy and still will always be scarred.
He has 12 children. I fear at least one of them is LGBT.
Sometimes I think it is hereditary in some part. Like me, my daughter is Gay. Given his stance on the death of Gays, I would bet he is VERY DEEPLY closeted. I often think the louder the screams, the more deeply embedded the Gay desires.
Well, he certainly has enough hate to have some left over for himself.
The hate comes from him trying in vain to convince himself he cannot be Gay. His hate also gives him cover in case he is seen with Gay people.
OT- Diny denied: https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-wausau-absentee-ballot-drop-box-7ed197e8d2940054f82a9e28fb8fa882
The MAGAt fuckstick mayor who illegally removed his Wisconsin town's only ballot drop box accomplished nothing, besides looking stupid in a hard hat while trying to steal an election, as the box has now been returned and properly secured to the ground to prevent tampering.
The hard hat and gloves don't match the suit. What a doofus.
Edit: Just read the article. It wasn't just for voting, it was a dropbox for all city business, like paying bills. Double doofus.
So it wasn’t just election fraud he was committing, but also government and financial crimes.
Hard hat? He should have been wearing steel toed boots in case his Shit-For-Brainsness dropped it.
There should be a strap around that size load too. And if he really wanted to be convincing, he should have put on a flannel shirt or a pair of coveralls.
A dunce cap and a pacifier seem more appropriate, I think.
I was about to reply that he could have used a dolly*, but he probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to get it on a dolly without picking it up and putting it on one.
* https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.0_PKLOcEzSoJ7oBRQsLFrwHaHa?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain
The best Dolly.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/da/5b/ceda5ba1408efa518a9bd523056e0e36.jpg
I was wondering if it was going to Parton or Madison.
What he got his 15 minutes of fame and took a swing at that widespread voter fraud that's definitely going to happen. Maybe we can get someone to put on a fake Fox News returns show and tell Donnie he won. His tapioca is so far gone it could be months before he realizes the truth.
Hilarious!
I was in with these people and escaped. Everything these kids say about being abused will be true and then some. I hope Miriam is safe.
"When it came to hitting his wife, Anderson told Shelley that anything he did to her “was consensual and that it was behind closed doors.”
^^^^ Umm........ consensual?
Mr. Anderson: please provide proof that your wife consented to being physically abused. You fuckin cowardly prick. REAL men do not hit their wives and children.
I'm honestly amazed that malevolent hobgoblin knew how to 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘤𝘦 the word "consensual," let alone to use it correctly in a sentence. Nothing else he's ever said offers any indication that he even understands the concept.
He's been coached on specific words to be use in his responses. And he knows the word consensual is a high value word.
Actually, in his warped mind he probably thinks it is consensual - I wouldn't be surprised if they have a marital contract that gives him permission to hit her. The Duggars have a contract that allows for punishment. It's discussed in Happy Shiny People. These fucked up "contracts" are not unusually for whack job Fundamentalists.
He’s from the religion that says marriage IS the permission he gets.
Yep, so true. Who needs those pesky contracts- the marriage certificate is all they need.
“Consensual” - to him.