He can call himself a pastor all he wants, but Fatstein has neither formal seminary training nor official ordination. Which means his has no actual physical congration. This makes him (surprise surprise) a yuge liar who is simply preaching online to the gullible.
An anti-science/anti-evolution MAGA who was heavily involved in the shenanigans of Jan 6. He spoke at a pre-insurrection rally in DC the day before, echoing Trump's lies about the "stolen" election and declaring (quote) "It is time for war!" That got him a visit from and investigation by the FBI.
One wonders just how many preachers these days, online and behind pulpits, have no formal education in the field and are themselves self-ordained. I'll bet the number is CONSIDERABLE.
It all begs the question, is theology an actual thing? It is the only field I'm aware of with multiple, irreconcilable paradigms every one of which is based entirely on conjecture. There is no consensus whatsoever.
It depends on where he is. In Illinois, for instance, all that is needed to be a pastor or minister is to be accepted as such by a congregation. No training, study or credentials are required.
Your Jesus wasn't a 7-figure businessman, was he? So you wouldn't even bother appealing to him, would you?
7-figure businessmen might not make it to your gated community in the sky. Especially if those businessmen did nothing to feed, clothe and house the poor. THOSE guys can expect a one-way ticket to the hot place.
I think Josh cares less about Jesus than he does about all the other religious hotshots and who they are cuddling up to. That person is NOT in Jerusalem.
He's at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC.
Obviously, this Feuerstein guy fits perfectly into the second category of people identified by C.S. Lewis: “God uses the good people; the bad people use God.” But, then, what else could or should we expect from anyone voluntarily in Trump’s circle, other than evil?
"Iron sharpens iron, right? But that means that iron has to come in contact with each other. That means that you have to get two people that are made of the same stuff together in the same room."
Hey Josh: if it's the end times, why so you need massive wealth? According to your theology, it is likely to be later this afternoon when God tells Gabriel to put that horn to his lips and blow. Then all your people get taken directly to heaven and out of here, right? Besides haven't you read your bible? Silly me, of course not. Here is a bit from your Lord and Savior about collecting all the cash:
Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
Unless you will admit publicly that it is all about gaining wealth and power, and nothing to do with your religious beliefs.
This is the guy who used an ableist slur on Facebook just this past July (one presumes the R word). He wanted to insult Democrat voters. So what did he do? He compared those voters to the intellligence of his daughter...who has Down's Syndrome! He slimed his own child to make an infantile remark.
Needless to say, there was fierce backlash over his stupidity.
My brothers and sisters, do not claim the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ of glory while showing partiality. For if a person with gold rings and in fine clothes comes into your assembly, and if a poor person in dirty clothes also comes in, and if you take notice of the one wearing the fine clothes and say, “Have a seat here in a good place, please,” while to the one who is poor you say, “Stand there,” or, “Sit by my footstool,” have you not made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers and sisters. Has not God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor person. Is it not the rich who oppress you? Is it not they who drag you into the courts? Is it not they who blaspheme the excellent name that was invoked over you?
If you really fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well. But if you show partiality, you commit sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
_________________
Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure during the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have nourished your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.
__________________
The property of the wealthy holds them in chains . . . which shackle their courage and choke their faith and hamper their judgment and throttle their souls. They think of themselves as owners, whereas it is they rather who are owned: enslaved as they are to their own property, they are not the masters of their money but its slaves.
Cyprian, 300 A.D.
The bread in your cupboard belongs to the hungry man; the coat hanging in your closet belongs to the man who needs it; the shoes rotting in your closet belong to the man who has no shoes; the money which you put into the bank belongs to the poor. You do wrong to everyone you could help but fail to help.
The guy flies first-class and stays at the Ritz, so he can eat Big Macs and chocolate shakes with Donnie Dumbass, and the only way he resembles Trump is pound-for-pound.
What this smells like (and it DOES smell!) is a little dog trying to pretend that 1) he's a BIG DOG and 2) trying to create a scenario where he can be seen running with the big dogs. All the Ritz-Carlton hotels, first-class plane tickets and over-the-top spending are just part of the "look" Feuerstein wants to create for himself, so that he can be in with the in-crowd.
"And the reality is, is if you’re crying about $4,500, then it probably isn’t the right room for you. But don’t get upset at the people that do it. Don’t get upset at the people that have it..."
I am not about to allow Feuerstein to attempt to gaslight me into not being mad at the wealthy CEOs and such that have spent their lives taking the value of other individual's work to enhance their own fortune. I refuse to pretend that folks with names like Musk, Bezos, and Thiel aren't taking more than their fair share and leaving the rest of us holding the proverbial bag. None of this garbage about 'not being the right room' makes any actually logical sense anyway.
I'm thoroughly sick of being told that in the US of A we 'can't afford' things like education and universal health care, despite being one of the wealthiest nations on the planet. Tax the @#($*# churches, tax the wealthy, and stop giving out tax money to folks that already have more than they will ever be able to spend. Heck, tax some of these insane political donations when they get to seven digit numbers; politicians should give something back anyway. And most assuredly, people like Joshua Feuerstein should be taxed when they're using the money they conned out of grandma for overpriced vacations so they can con more innocent bystanders.
TLDR: I'm mad and I'm not changing my mind, you lying sad-sack.
I don't know about Feuerstein (actually, I DO), but I don't throw around $4,500 on a whim, nor would I ever ask someone else to. Josh acts as though it should be nothing remarkable - a means to a greater end [for HIM, of course, but don't say that too loud!].
Another reason why we should wonder what planet Joshie came from ... and why no one should be fooled by him.
No, not really. Iron can sharpen iron but it’s not necessary to do so, but iron can just as easily dull iron. You know what else sharpens iron? Paper, like, sand paper, or stones. Like, seriously, sandpaper is the best thing to use to sharpen an iron blade. Does he not watch forged in fire? They aren’t rubbing their knives together, they’re using a grinder or a sander to sharpen their knives.
So, if you thing rich white dudes are iron, suuuure they are, then they need the sandpaper to become sharp, which can be the workers in their companies, or folks from other industries that bring insights they haven’t thought of. When you get rich white dudes in rooms together they spend a lot of time fluffing themselves, but they end up with shit like Elon Musk throwing the Nazi salute and juggling a chainsaw. Not good business deals or innovation.
Anyway, a grifter is looking to get money from other grifters. Let’s see how that works for him, Cotton.
Second comment: re-reading this story, it's really about self-will and greed RUN RIOT, under the guise of "religion".
I'm willing to forgive the lack of a degree: Tim Samaras and Joseph Campbell both had no more than high school educations, yet they were autodidacts who studied their respective professions very, very deeply and became acknowledged experts in their fields. They were also very humble people.
There are areas where I do not have a formal degree -- but I know these things very well because I've been studying and applying them for decades. (Cooking is one of those things. I have several awards for my cooking. I am *really* proud of those awards! It also makes me appreciate the work of really fine chefs.)
There isn't even a little toenail-ful of humility in Joshua Feuerstein. This guy is out on the "take", and he's in it for everything he can get.
He can call himself a pastor all he wants, but Fatstein has neither formal seminary training nor official ordination. Which means his has no actual physical congration. This makes him (surprise surprise) a yuge liar who is simply preaching online to the gullible.
An anti-science/anti-evolution MAGA who was heavily involved in the shenanigans of Jan 6. He spoke at a pre-insurrection rally in DC the day before, echoing Trump's lies about the "stolen" election and declaring (quote) "It is time for war!" That got him a visit from and investigation by the FBI.
One wonders just how many preachers these days, online and behind pulpits, have no formal education in the field and are themselves self-ordained. I'll bet the number is CONSIDERABLE.
Even the ones with a ‘formal education’ are uneducated.
Considering that he thinks the world is 6000 years old and evolution is a hoax, he is MIS-educated!
Or just plain dum.
Say what? I left out a b? There's no b in dum. No, I didn't look in no dictionary.
Well shit. There is a b in dumb. Who knew?
If the degree is made up anyway, why 𝘯𝘰𝘵 just cut out the middleman and make it up yourself instead of paying someone else to?
Joan ... I think yer onto something! 😁
It all begs the question, is theology an actual thing? It is the only field I'm aware of with multiple, irreconcilable paradigms every one of which is based entirely on conjecture. There is no consensus whatsoever.
But, but he is self ordained. That counts . . . for something.
He was too lazy to put in the work. Grifting was much easier and faster.
DIVINE INSPARATION!!!!! /s
It depends on where he is. In Illinois, for instance, all that is needed to be a pastor or minister is to be accepted as such by a congregation. No training, study or credentials are required.
Without intending to, fools like this make very compelling cases for atheism.
Some guy at CP is trying to ruffle my feathers with grade school level taunts and I observed that he wasn’t doing his religion any favors.
Hey, Joshie...
Your Jesus wasn't a 7-figure businessman, was he? So you wouldn't even bother appealing to him, would you?
7-figure businessmen might not make it to your gated community in the sky. Especially if those businessmen did nothing to feed, clothe and house the poor. THOSE guys can expect a one-way ticket to the hot place.
I think Josh cares less about Jesus than he does about all the other religious hotshots and who they are cuddling up to. That person is NOT in Jerusalem.
He's at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC.
...Florida?
7 figures is his daily bill....at McDs
Obviously, this Feuerstein guy fits perfectly into the second category of people identified by C.S. Lewis: “God uses the good people; the bad people use God.” But, then, what else could or should we expect from anyone voluntarily in Trump’s circle, other than evil?
"I understand that when I’m sitting in the hot tub with 5 old white hairy men,"
Sounds gay and grifty.
I need industrial-strength brain bleach after JFs gawdawful declaration.
"Iron sharpens iron, right? But that means that iron has to come in contact with each other. That means that you have to get two people that are made of the same stuff together in the same room."
Yup. Definitely gay.
Also 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘭𝘺 dumb enough to actually try sharpening one blade with another.
He absolutely would.
I'm told you can sharpen a razor by using a ceramic coffee mug. Which is nowhere near steel.
https://youtu.be/97GO0ho42pE
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠… 𝑖𝑓 𝑤𝑒’𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝐸𝑛𝑑-𝑇𝑖𝑚𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑙, 𝑖𝑡’𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑏𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑟𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑓𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠, 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡?
Hey Josh: if it's the end times, why so you need massive wealth? According to your theology, it is likely to be later this afternoon when God tells Gabriel to put that horn to his lips and blow. Then all your people get taken directly to heaven and out of here, right? Besides haven't you read your bible? Silly me, of course not. Here is a bit from your Lord and Savior about collecting all the cash:
Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."
Unless you will admit publicly that it is all about gaining wealth and power, and nothing to do with your religious beliefs.
Or EVERYTHING to do with hus religious beliefs.
“I believe I’ll have some of your money.”
𝑊ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑢𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟.
Pocket liners?
And wallet liners!
And ocean liners.
Reflecting pool liners?
And biting one-liners!
G-string stuffers. 👯♀️
This is the guy who used an ableist slur on Facebook just this past July (one presumes the R word). He wanted to insult Democrat voters. So what did he do? He compared those voters to the intellligence of his daughter...who has Down's Syndrome! He slimed his own child to make an infantile remark.
Needless to say, there was fierce backlash over his stupidity.
They may have finally gotten the bar as low as physically possible: the center of earth's core.
🤢
My brothers and sisters, do not claim the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ of glory while showing partiality. For if a person with gold rings and in fine clothes comes into your assembly, and if a poor person in dirty clothes also comes in, and if you take notice of the one wearing the fine clothes and say, “Have a seat here in a good place, please,” while to the one who is poor you say, “Stand there,” or, “Sit by my footstool,” have you not made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? Listen, my beloved brothers and sisters. Has not God chosen the poor in the world to be rich in faith and to be heirs of the kingdom that he has promised to those who love him? But you have dishonored the poor person. Is it not the rich who oppress you? Is it not they who drag you into the courts? Is it not they who blaspheme the excellent name that was invoked over you?
If you really fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well. But if you show partiality, you commit sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors.
_________________
Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure during the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have nourished your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.
__________________
The property of the wealthy holds them in chains . . . which shackle their courage and choke their faith and hamper their judgment and throttle their souls. They think of themselves as owners, whereas it is they rather who are owned: enslaved as they are to their own property, they are not the masters of their money but its slaves.
Cyprian, 300 A.D.
The bread in your cupboard belongs to the hungry man; the coat hanging in your closet belongs to the man who needs it; the shoes rotting in your closet belong to the man who has no shoes; the money which you put into the bank belongs to the poor. You do wrong to everyone you could help but fail to help.
Basil of Caesarea, 330-370 A.D.
________________
You are a greedy fool, "Pastor".
And he is in bad company.
Til the day he dies.
"LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"
Does Fuckstick eat the food at any of Trump's properties? Amazed he isn't it the hospital
The guy flies first-class and stays at the Ritz, so he can eat Big Macs and chocolate shakes with Donnie Dumbass, and the only way he resembles Trump is pound-for-pound.
What this smells like (and it DOES smell!) is a little dog trying to pretend that 1) he's a BIG DOG and 2) trying to create a scenario where he can be seen running with the big dogs. All the Ritz-Carlton hotels, first-class plane tickets and over-the-top spending are just part of the "look" Feuerstein wants to create for himself, so that he can be in with the in-crowd.
Ummm ... Josh? It ain't workin'!
He’s joshin’ us.
He THINKS that his con is working. News Flash: It STILL isn't!
"And the reality is, is if you’re crying about $4,500, then it probably isn’t the right room for you. But don’t get upset at the people that do it. Don’t get upset at the people that have it..."
I am not about to allow Feuerstein to attempt to gaslight me into not being mad at the wealthy CEOs and such that have spent their lives taking the value of other individual's work to enhance their own fortune. I refuse to pretend that folks with names like Musk, Bezos, and Thiel aren't taking more than their fair share and leaving the rest of us holding the proverbial bag. None of this garbage about 'not being the right room' makes any actually logical sense anyway.
I'm thoroughly sick of being told that in the US of A we 'can't afford' things like education and universal health care, despite being one of the wealthiest nations on the planet. Tax the @#($*# churches, tax the wealthy, and stop giving out tax money to folks that already have more than they will ever be able to spend. Heck, tax some of these insane political donations when they get to seven digit numbers; politicians should give something back anyway. And most assuredly, people like Joshua Feuerstein should be taxed when they're using the money they conned out of grandma for overpriced vacations so they can con more innocent bystanders.
TLDR: I'm mad and I'm not changing my mind, you lying sad-sack.
I don't know about Feuerstein (actually, I DO), but I don't throw around $4,500 on a whim, nor would I ever ask someone else to. Josh acts as though it should be nothing remarkable - a means to a greater end [for HIM, of course, but don't say that too loud!].
Another reason why we should wonder what planet Joshie came from ... and why no one should be fooled by him.
“Iron sharpens iron, right?”
No, not really. Iron can sharpen iron but it’s not necessary to do so, but iron can just as easily dull iron. You know what else sharpens iron? Paper, like, sand paper, or stones. Like, seriously, sandpaper is the best thing to use to sharpen an iron blade. Does he not watch forged in fire? They aren’t rubbing their knives together, they’re using a grinder or a sander to sharpen their knives.
So, if you thing rich white dudes are iron, suuuure they are, then they need the sandpaper to become sharp, which can be the workers in their companies, or folks from other industries that bring insights they haven’t thought of. When you get rich white dudes in rooms together they spend a lot of time fluffing themselves, but they end up with shit like Elon Musk throwing the Nazi salute and juggling a chainsaw. Not good business deals or innovation.
Anyway, a grifter is looking to get money from other grifters. Let’s see how that works for him, Cotton.
"A “kingdom lunch” is a hell of a way to describe any restaurant Feuerstein wants to go to"
There's only one restaurant fit for that lunch: Burger King!
Dairy Queen.
"He explained that he has to stay in fancy hotels and buy first-class plane tickets—he has to!"
He has to because where he wants to go is a major hotbed for mostly male prostitution and sex.
Second comment: re-reading this story, it's really about self-will and greed RUN RIOT, under the guise of "religion".
I'm willing to forgive the lack of a degree: Tim Samaras and Joseph Campbell both had no more than high school educations, yet they were autodidacts who studied their respective professions very, very deeply and became acknowledged experts in their fields. They were also very humble people.
There are areas where I do not have a formal degree -- but I know these things very well because I've been studying and applying them for decades. (Cooking is one of those things. I have several awards for my cooking. I am *really* proud of those awards! It also makes me appreciate the work of really fine chefs.)
There isn't even a little toenail-ful of humility in Joshua Feuerstein. This guy is out on the "take", and he's in it for everything he can get.
Cool to hear about your cooking awards!