I STILL want to see someone like Fulnecky try to pull crap like this in a serious discipline: engineering, physics, medicine, or something along those lines, particularly where objectivity and defined principles are the operating tools being employed.
The results SHOULD be disastrous for the student, even as they should have been for Fulnecky.
Agreed. And as I've mentioned before, intellectually lazy xtians like her only handicap themselves in the real world and limit their employment/career opportunities.
Wakefield succeeded and he didn't, really. Much like Fulnecky, he managed to get a bunch of like-minded people behind him and carved out a niche which persists to this day. Doesn't change the fact that his "research" folded like a cheap tend under the gaze of peer review, as surely as Fulnecky's paper got the grade it deserved.
Bensnewlogin said it well: people are revolting against STANDARDS and against FACTS, which might as well mean they're upset with reality and want it to conform to their beliefs.
And the ONLY reason he is there is because of Trump. Had RFKJr tried to gain ANY position under HHS during any administration before 2017, he would likely been laughed out of the building.
Yes. Especially when the idiots with the testosterone poisoning use the fruits of those who understood reality to “blow ‘em up real good” and create a new mass extinction event.
Might make for some pretty good fireworks, if the story went viral.
But you're absolutely right, a non Christian pulling a Fulnecky would never be allowed. And the knuckle-dragging MAGA cult would never notice the double standard, cuz attair's just thuh way thangs oughter be!"
This is all part of the Fake Victim narrative. If the student had completed the assignment, including reference to her view that transitioning is an abomination, I trust that that final remark would have been ignored, as irrelevant, and the remainder graded on its merits or lack of them.
However, I remain convinced that this whole thing was a planned setup, and that the choice of a trans instructor was premeditated
They’re trying to undermine education. Full stop. They want everyone to mistrust colleges and universities so their mediocre (at best) children can compete with the minorities they claim are unqualified and benefit unfairly from DEI. They also want a class system where poor people are worked to death in degrading demeaning positions and don’t have to be paid fairly. They have to undermine the institutions that certified all the minorities to solidify the false idea that a POC or woman is not qualified, thy only got their degree because of lowered standards blah blah blah. So they attack the institutions credibility. Easiest way is to complain about every bad grade, claim religious discrimination, make the degrees questionable for the folks who know that Fulnecki scammed her grade so they no longer trust anyone coming out of the universities. Top that with the defunding of public education, the lower classes will never be educated again.
Authoritarian regimes never want an educated public, because an educated public ask questions, criticize and are not easily manipulated or controlled! A stupid and unhealthy public is easier to control and manipulate, the public is would be more willing to follow orders without question.
The elite members would have a workforce/soldiers that don’t question the working conditions or the illegal/inhumane orders! That why the elite members of the Christian fascist movement want to destroy PUBLIC education, but I know for damm sure the the elite members children will still get a proper education to take their place as the ruling class.
This was just like the medieval period where the the peasants were uneducated, but the ruling dynasty and the nobility were educated!
I just realize I am repeating what VAL said, I am sorry for the repeat.
Taking an inverted look at this, less skilled white National Christians (Nat-Cs) will increase minority hiring, by self-selecting out of the job skill pool.
The entire Right Wing Outrage Machine forgets that simple fact, all to push the persecution narrative. She could have actually done the assignment with all of her hateful and bigoted rhetoric intact, but the RWOM just jams their fingers in their ears and refuses to hear that.
And now, the NSGOP of Floridumb is pushing a completely unnecessary law to prevent students from failing assignments due to their religious and political views. No teacher with an ounce of academic integrity would fail a student's assignment on the basis of religious or political views. But the NSGOP wants to use this as a weapon so that a student gets an A+ when they say 2+2=Jesus and Trump. And if a student does the same kind of stunt referencing any other religion or political party? Why, then they will remember the syllabus.
Wow. This whole Samantha Fulnecky business has developed more legs than a millipede! Now she's got Florida lawmakers crafting legislation to allow her and anyone else like her to be able to spew biblical word salad as a part of a school or college assignment and force the teacher to accept it, regardless of whether the work addresses said assignment or not.
Why would a self-respecting teacher bother to operate under such conditions. He or she might as well allow the student to grade the paper themselves ("I deserve an A+++++++!"), rather than get constructive feedback from their instructor regarding the task set.
The bottom line is NO LEARNING, and if no learning is happening, what is the point of education?
The whole anti-DEI business that DeSantis was pushing was scary back then. Now it's looking as though they want to obviate any discipline or demonstration of understanding of the course material completely.
If I were ANY faculty member of a school, college, or university, I would be LIVID at this proposed legislation!
The proposed legislation is relatively benign on its surface. It just restates basic anti-discrimination rules. But we all know how the Regime would use it. 2+2=Jesus, A+. 2+2=Krishna, F for failing to do the work.
You write those things by hand? Boomer. :) That’s what inkjets are for.
The few times I do write something, I want people to be able to read it and that’s hard enough with my print (I quit writing cursive in 6th grade. My teacher didn’t and I realized not all adults did so I gave up on handwriting (except for a brief flirtation with calligraphy))
Cursive or printing, it doesn’t take long before my hand cramps. I learned to touch type in high school (thank you, Mom) and have never looked back.
My sister is 17 months younger than me, and she couldn't read a face clock (which I think is what you meant). This was just as digital clocks were coming out.
Cursive is an interesting thing. Aside from my signature, I don't use it, having switched to print. Even then, people struggle. When I went to the local college and handed in my application, they complimented me on the readability of my form (everything was printed). I thought it looked bad, she said, "You won't believe how bad some applications look."
Except to this Fullynekkid person (pronouns: it, ick).
Although Hemant did mention the word “standards“ several times, from a social psychological point of view, it’s really all about standards. Right wingers, christian or not, will believe anything.
They will vote for those incompetent, immoral, corrupt, dishonest, lying persons as long as he tells them what their itching ears want to hear.
A safe and effective vaccine is now a deep state plot to poison people, and millions of people will die, except that they didn’t.
Christians are persecuted, practically murdered in the streets, because because because because because.
A book full of obvious fairytales must be taught as the truth, because there is no standard of truth. I know this is true because I did my own research.
Pastors and priests, professional Christian of every stripe, can commit any atrocity and clear their minds of any guilt or restitution simply by apologizing to the ceiling, because the fourth person of the Trinity is the ceiling, and the ceiling will always forget.
The idea that there must be standards is under attack. There is only belief and privilege. The teachers of fullynekkid we’re trying to do her a favor and teach her that there are standards. There are facts. There are expectations. The politicians catering to stupidity told her that all she has to do is claim it’s all about God. Right now, she’s pulling a Rittenhouse for people with no standards whatsoever, except for power, money, and religious dominion.
When she encounters the real world, she may find that this won’t work for her anymore.
Why bother going to sending your kids to school at all if you support this bullshit? Just send them to church every day. Clearly they don't need to learn or acquire life skills or critical thinking abilities.
Precisely. When going to college no longer means learning new skills or principles and preparing to use them in a real-world environment, but the simple obtaining of an unearned credential which supposedly will open doors for the student, higher education becomes meaningless.
It is at once difficult and entirely too easy to understand why Florida is allowing this to happen: difficult because I VALUE EDUCATION, and easy because it's clear that Florida legislators (at least some of them) do not.
He has no critical thinking skills any more. If I want to know what the GQP Outrage Machine is pushing all I have to do is talk to him. Everything they pour into his ear comes flowing out of his mouth.
Oh, it has plenty of meaning, it means you are either rich or an indentured servant to some bank.
OU's estimated cost for an in-state, undergrad per year is $37,000. When I went it was 5 which accounting for 30 years of inflation should be about 12.
My union got me a year of college credit. The company paid for courses. I stopped when overtime became freely available and I realized I could make more in the mills than a BS degree allowed A bird in the had is worth several in the bushes.
I am writing to request you restore my grade to an A+ as required under Florida law. It is with heartfelt sincerity that I wrote in my paper that the planets are not shaped the way they are because of gravitational physics, centrifugal force, or acceleration. It is because the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) has ordained that the planets be shaped like meatballs--even down to their perfect, not-exactly-round shape just like mom used to make--in order that we be reminded of His Noodlieness carefully shaping the universe by hand. I know this because I read the answer when I consulted my A to Z SpaghettiOs®. I am adding this as a citation, (photograph attached - served in the official school cafeteria I must add), which confirms my position. The FSM is the O-riginal source and cannot be wrong.
I respectfully request that you reconsider my grade. If God can be that girl's information source, then the FSM can be mine.
PS: By complying with my request you will automatically receive extra meatballs and sauce in the afterlife on the Planet of Pasta.
Oh, I can easily imagine a paper asserting that "the fossil record was a result of Noah's flood" being turned into a Biology or Geology class or "the speed of light being much faster in the past which is why the universe is only 6,000 years old despite appearing to be 14.5 billion" being submitted in an Astronomy course by a fundie student and now Florida professors will have to take that swill seriously.
If conservatives get their way, degrees from American universities will be utterly worthless in the world.
JFC...I'm back here in Fucking Crazy State less than two weeks, and the Fucking Crazy State GOP legislature is already making me proud.
Florida schools have been the butt of jokes for decades. I remember a conversation back in the 90's with a friend who sent her kids to a private secular school just over the state line in Georgia. I asked her why not a private school in Florida, and she said there was no way she'd put her kids in a school in Florida, because the school system already had such a bad reputation, and the one in Georgia had smaller class sizes and higher test scores.
One joke I heard a few times was "my hair stylist/fitness trainer/whatever graduated from a Florida school and he/she can almost read and write."
Under the Jeb! administration, Jebby's solution was to grade each school from A to F. Schools receiving a failing grade were punished by having their funding cut "until they did better." Did better. With. Even. Fewer. Resources. Typical GOP thinking. The standard line was that this would motivate staff to cut the waste, eliminate the dead wood, and better utilize their time and energy. Fucking A, typing that last sentence just makes my blood boil.
The bill of goods known as the Florida Lottery was sold as a way to enhance Florida schools with Lottery revenue. But within a year or two, lottery revenue was simply replacing money from the general revenue fund that was being cut back. Like turning on the hose to fill a bucket while somebody else is drilling holes in the bottom.
Yes, it's good to be back in Fucking Crazy State again.
There’s a reason there was a character in The Good Place that was educated in Florida and he was the dumbest character on the show. What did he say his high school was? A bunch of tugboats?
Due to high housing costs and a far-below-the-national-average median household income, Florida ranks an abominable 47th in Opportunity. Are Clay Yahoo and Dave Boracho crafting legislation designed to address this very real need, or are they just going to continue virtue signaling to the xtians of the Sunshine State?
I cannot complete my geometry homework because God spoke to me and said I'm bound for hell if I do it. Okay being snarky, but you can come up with a religious argument to justify absolutely anything, and you don't have to study a whole lot of history to realize that. No discovery of science ever pointed to the truth of any religious doctrine. Religion has NO place in the public schools, and it is never the job of our secular government to backstop anyone's religious fantasies.
I read the note about this case which was published a few days ago. And I could not get over this complete nonsense!
I have written in the past, that my school was run by nuns. They were nuns of an order, which had dedicated itself to provide education for girls, a bit like the Jesuits did for boys and young men. And in that school the grades for that assignment would have been a big fat zero. A student submitting such a paper might have got the opportunity to resit the assignment, but that’d be it. A campaign such as by her and/or her mother would not have succeeded, they’d have been told not to be so bl**dy stupid, just to wind their neck in and submit a proper essay!
Because what was more important to the school and its leadership was to provide education for girls - and rewarding failure is damaging the education for everyone.
Plus Star courts and Auto da fe. The long, bloody and violence soaked history of kkkristerism cannot be denied. 300 years of witch hunts resulted in an estimated 1 million deaths.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world watches, seeing religious nuttery destroy the US China sees the opportunity to surpass us in research, and other countries eye our best talent as switching sides.
I've said this before in different contexts, but what would happen if WE started doing the same things in our assignments, our papers, our professional lives, and in the practice of our daily lives based on our "sincere religious beliefs" -- but in our case, openly discriminating against MAGA, Trump supporters, evangelical Christians, homophobes, transphobes, etc. and telling them will we not do what they request, but also demanding that those people leave, and then claiming that the evangelical Christians and MAGA are "persecuting" US?
I'm a concert-level pianist. I have NO problems telling MAGA, Trump supporters and evangelical Christians that they are NOT welcome at my recitals; and they WILL be turned away. I doubt if it matters to most of them, but it's the principle behind this which matters.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
(Now, since I'm an Episcopalian and most people here are atheists, I would suggest that after my recital we head down to Fogo de Chao for dinner afterwards -- and we can talk about music, or politics, or whatever floats our boat!)
I discovered them in college from an old Dot album: The Masters Write Jazz. Eventually got the sheet music and learned all four, though I never quite got the handle on the last one. My fave is the 2nd. I love how it flows.
Just wait until a non-Christian/nonbelieveing student decides to pull a Fulnecky. Will Florida give them the same protections?
(Who am I kidding?)
I STILL want to see someone like Fulnecky try to pull crap like this in a serious discipline: engineering, physics, medicine, or something along those lines, particularly where objectivity and defined principles are the operating tools being employed.
The results SHOULD be disastrous for the student, even as they should have been for Fulnecky.
Agreed. And as I've mentioned before, intellectually lazy xtians like her only handicap themselves in the real world and limit their employment/career opportunities.
Andrew Wakefield.
Wakefield succeeded and he didn't, really. Much like Fulnecky, he managed to get a bunch of like-minded people behind him and carved out a niche which persists to this day. Doesn't change the fact that his "research" folded like a cheap tend under the gaze of peer review, as surely as Fulnecky's paper got the grade it deserved.
Bensnewlogin said it well: people are revolting against STANDARDS and against FACTS, which might as well mean they're upset with reality and want it to conform to their beliefs.
Which is a formula for eventual disaster.
I will also point out that “niche” runs the federal Department of Health and Human Services, including the FDA.
And the ONLY reason he is there is because of Trump. Had RFKJr tried to gain ANY position under HHS during any administration before 2017, he would likely been laughed out of the building.
I doubt even Dubya would have tolerated him.
He could have gotten a position in which everything he approved of was then automatically shitcanned as a working idea.
And Dubya was one dumbass mofo. I guess we all misunderestimated him.
Yes. Especially when the idiots with the testosterone poisoning use the fruits of those who understood reality to “blow ‘em up real good” and create a new mass extinction event.
Agreed. A YEC approach to a biology assignment would be fun.
Everytime I see that name, my mind keeps seeing it as "Flunky."
You're not wrong.
Might make for some pretty good fireworks, if the story went viral.
But you're absolutely right, a non Christian pulling a Fulnecky would never be allowed. And the knuckle-dragging MAGA cult would never notice the double standard, cuz attair's just thuh way thangs oughter be!"
As they flee from the world of standards, they are pointed in the direction of double standards. But at least they got some standards, right?
Twice as many as the rest of us.
You and your woke math.
Pulls a Fullnecky!?!?
That sounds…dirty.
Better if the student takes the Prometheus view of the Eden story. No, "not a religion" BS, and shines a solar spotlight on their hypocrisy.
This is all part of the Fake Victim narrative. If the student had completed the assignment, including reference to her view that transitioning is an abomination, I trust that that final remark would have been ignored, as irrelevant, and the remainder graded on its merits or lack of them.
However, I remain convinced that this whole thing was a planned setup, and that the choice of a trans instructor was premeditated
I think there’s also a large side of “blame anyone else but me for my mistakes” too
THAT is a foundational pillar of their superstition. They never take blame.
It's funny when Homer Simpson says, "This everybody's fault except mine."
And not in real life.
They’re trying to undermine education. Full stop. They want everyone to mistrust colleges and universities so their mediocre (at best) children can compete with the minorities they claim are unqualified and benefit unfairly from DEI. They also want a class system where poor people are worked to death in degrading demeaning positions and don’t have to be paid fairly. They have to undermine the institutions that certified all the minorities to solidify the false idea that a POC or woman is not qualified, thy only got their degree because of lowered standards blah blah blah. So they attack the institutions credibility. Easiest way is to complain about every bad grade, claim religious discrimination, make the degrees questionable for the folks who know that Fulnecki scammed her grade so they no longer trust anyone coming out of the universities. Top that with the defunding of public education, the lower classes will never be educated again.
Authoritarian regimes never want an educated public, because an educated public ask questions, criticize and are not easily manipulated or controlled! A stupid and unhealthy public is easier to control and manipulate, the public is would be more willing to follow orders without question.
The elite members would have a workforce/soldiers that don’t question the working conditions or the illegal/inhumane orders! That why the elite members of the Christian fascist movement want to destroy PUBLIC education, but I know for damm sure the the elite members children will still get a proper education to take their place as the ruling class.
This was just like the medieval period where the the peasants were uneducated, but the ruling dynasty and the nobility were educated!
I just realize I am repeating what VAL said, I am sorry for the repeat.
If you will just repeat the word Jesus five times in your essay, no one will call it a repeat, and you’ll get an A+++.
Taking an inverted look at this, less skilled white National Christians (Nat-Cs) will increase minority hiring, by self-selecting out of the job skill pool.
If only.
It wouldn't be an instantaneous thing, but corporations will quickly learn to avoid bad job candidates if they want to remain competitive.
I think that last part is a big "IF." We seem to have entered an era of racing to the bottom to earn a quick buck and bail through bankruptcy.
A theocratic monarchy, yay! The rich will send their children abroad to study and the peasants will eat dirt.
𝑆ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑎 0% 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑑𝑛’𝑡 𝑑𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑎𝑚𝑛 𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡.
The entire Right Wing Outrage Machine forgets that simple fact, all to push the persecution narrative. She could have actually done the assignment with all of her hateful and bigoted rhetoric intact, but the RWOM just jams their fingers in their ears and refuses to hear that.
And now, the NSGOP of Floridumb is pushing a completely unnecessary law to prevent students from failing assignments due to their religious and political views. No teacher with an ounce of academic integrity would fail a student's assignment on the basis of religious or political views. But the NSGOP wants to use this as a weapon so that a student gets an A+ when they say 2+2=Jesus and Trump. And if a student does the same kind of stunt referencing any other religion or political party? Why, then they will remember the syllabus.
They don't forget that. They just argue in bad faith.
Wow. This whole Samantha Fulnecky business has developed more legs than a millipede! Now she's got Florida lawmakers crafting legislation to allow her and anyone else like her to be able to spew biblical word salad as a part of a school or college assignment and force the teacher to accept it, regardless of whether the work addresses said assignment or not.
Why would a self-respecting teacher bother to operate under such conditions. He or she might as well allow the student to grade the paper themselves ("I deserve an A+++++++!"), rather than get constructive feedback from their instructor regarding the task set.
The bottom line is NO LEARNING, and if no learning is happening, what is the point of education?
No learning means a more gullible voting base and a more easily controlled work force.
That bottom line seems to be the endgame for Florida under DeSanitarium.
The whole anti-DEI business that DeSantis was pushing was scary back then. Now it's looking as though they want to obviate any discipline or demonstration of understanding of the course material completely.
If I were ANY faculty member of a school, college, or university, I would be LIVID at this proposed legislation!
The proposed legislation is relatively benign on its surface. It just restates basic anti-discrimination rules. But we all know how the Regime would use it. 2+2=Jesus, A+. 2+2=Krishna, F for failing to do the work.
I am livid and I taught for only three years, many many moons ago.
That is the point of education in Gilead.
I would say that's what they want. Public education is a good thing. Jefferson considered it one of the pillars of democracy.
Yes, public education has its problems, but those problems are induced by systemic problem to ensure people remain in their place.
The sustained decades of attacks upon public education have reduced it to creating producer-consumers.
It has produced people who cannot tell time on a non-digital clock or write in cursive.
Is cursive actually useful?
It’s faster than printing.
I send birthday, christmas, and special occasion cards, plus thank you notes.
So, i think so.
You write those things by hand? Boomer. :) That’s what inkjets are for.
The few times I do write something, I want people to be able to read it and that’s hard enough with my print (I quit writing cursive in 6th grade. My teacher didn’t and I realized not all adults did so I gave up on handwriting (except for a brief flirtation with calligraphy))
Cursive or printing, it doesn’t take long before my hand cramps. I learned to touch type in high school (thank you, Mom) and have never looked back.
My sister is 17 months younger than me, and she couldn't read a face clock (which I think is what you meant). This was just as digital clocks were coming out.
Cursive is an interesting thing. Aside from my signature, I don't use it, having switched to print. Even then, people struggle. When I went to the local college and handed in my application, they complimented me on the readability of my form (everything was printed). I thought it looked bad, she said, "You won't believe how bad some applications look."
She don’t need no education for that Mrs. degree
Happy new year, everyone!
Except to this Fullynekkid person (pronouns: it, ick).
Although Hemant did mention the word “standards“ several times, from a social psychological point of view, it’s really all about standards. Right wingers, christian or not, will believe anything.
They will vote for those incompetent, immoral, corrupt, dishonest, lying persons as long as he tells them what their itching ears want to hear.
A safe and effective vaccine is now a deep state plot to poison people, and millions of people will die, except that they didn’t.
Christians are persecuted, practically murdered in the streets, because because because because because.
A book full of obvious fairytales must be taught as the truth, because there is no standard of truth. I know this is true because I did my own research.
Pastors and priests, professional Christian of every stripe, can commit any atrocity and clear their minds of any guilt or restitution simply by apologizing to the ceiling, because the fourth person of the Trinity is the ceiling, and the ceiling will always forget.
The idea that there must be standards is under attack. There is only belief and privilege. The teachers of fullynekkid we’re trying to do her a favor and teach her that there are standards. There are facts. There are expectations. The politicians catering to stupidity told her that all she has to do is claim it’s all about God. Right now, she’s pulling a Rittenhouse for people with no standards whatsoever, except for power, money, and religious dominion.
When she encounters the real world, she may find that this won’t work for her anymore.
I guess I have to post this again:
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑤𝑎𝑦𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖-𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑚 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒, 𝑛𝑢𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡: "𝑀𝑦 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑠 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑙𝑒𝑑𝑔𝑒."
-- Isaac Asimov
Always a great quote.
I read "because because because because because. " in the voice of the oompa loompas...
Which is appropriate because their god-king Trump is the biggest oompa lommpa anyone has every seen.
Oompa loompas will work, but it’s really more of a wizard of oz thing.
good point
Oompah loompa libelz!
Why bother going to sending your kids to school at all if you support this bullshit? Just send them to church every day. Clearly they don't need to learn or acquire life skills or critical thinking abilities.
Precisely. When going to college no longer means learning new skills or principles and preparing to use them in a real-world environment, but the simple obtaining of an unearned credential which supposedly will open doors for the student, higher education becomes meaningless.
It is at once difficult and entirely too easy to understand why Florida is allowing this to happen: difficult because I VALUE EDUCATION, and easy because it's clear that Florida legislators (at least some of them) do not.
They do not value education because people who are educated are better equipped to know when they are lying.
This. Educated people make informed decisions, which leads to them voting for progressive policies and politicians.
Not always. MY BIL has a PhD but his racism and homophobia win out every time.
That means his critical thinking skills are only partially developed.
He has no critical thinking skills any more. If I want to know what the GQP Outrage Machine is pushing all I have to do is talk to him. Everything they pour into his ear comes flowing out of his mouth.
Oh, it has plenty of meaning, it means you are either rich or an indentured servant to some bank.
OU's estimated cost for an in-state, undergrad per year is $37,000. When I went it was 5 which accounting for 30 years of inflation should be about 12.
My union got me a year of college credit. The company paid for courses. I stopped when overtime became freely available and I realized I could make more in the mills than a BS degree allowed A bird in the had is worth several in the bushes.
https://dear18yoself.substack.com/p/is-college-the-right-choice-for-you
BINGO!!
Professor Peabody
Florida School of Astrophysics
I am writing to request you restore my grade to an A+ as required under Florida law. It is with heartfelt sincerity that I wrote in my paper that the planets are not shaped the way they are because of gravitational physics, centrifugal force, or acceleration. It is because the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) has ordained that the planets be shaped like meatballs--even down to their perfect, not-exactly-round shape just like mom used to make--in order that we be reminded of His Noodlieness carefully shaping the universe by hand. I know this because I read the answer when I consulted my A to Z SpaghettiOs®. I am adding this as a citation, (photograph attached - served in the official school cafeteria I must add), which confirms my position. The FSM is the O-riginal source and cannot be wrong.
I respectfully request that you reconsider my grade. If God can be that girl's information source, then the FSM can be mine.
PS: By complying with my request you will automatically receive extra meatballs and sauce in the afterlife on the Planet of Pasta.
"... The FSM is the O-riginal source..."
And the original sauce.
Oh, I can easily imagine a paper asserting that "the fossil record was a result of Noah's flood" being turned into a Biology or Geology class or "the speed of light being much faster in the past which is why the universe is only 6,000 years old despite appearing to be 14.5 billion" being submitted in an Astronomy course by a fundie student and now Florida professors will have to take that swill seriously.
If conservatives get their way, degrees from American universities will be utterly worthless in the world.
JFC...I'm back here in Fucking Crazy State less than two weeks, and the Fucking Crazy State GOP legislature is already making me proud.
Florida schools have been the butt of jokes for decades. I remember a conversation back in the 90's with a friend who sent her kids to a private secular school just over the state line in Georgia. I asked her why not a private school in Florida, and she said there was no way she'd put her kids in a school in Florida, because the school system already had such a bad reputation, and the one in Georgia had smaller class sizes and higher test scores.
One joke I heard a few times was "my hair stylist/fitness trainer/whatever graduated from a Florida school and he/she can almost read and write."
Under the Jeb! administration, Jebby's solution was to grade each school from A to F. Schools receiving a failing grade were punished by having their funding cut "until they did better." Did better. With. Even. Fewer. Resources. Typical GOP thinking. The standard line was that this would motivate staff to cut the waste, eliminate the dead wood, and better utilize their time and energy. Fucking A, typing that last sentence just makes my blood boil.
The bill of goods known as the Florida Lottery was sold as a way to enhance Florida schools with Lottery revenue. But within a year or two, lottery revenue was simply replacing money from the general revenue fund that was being cut back. Like turning on the hose to fill a bucket while somebody else is drilling holes in the bottom.
Yes, it's good to be back in Fucking Crazy State again.
Condolences.
So THAT'S why Ozzy always plays in my head when I visit the Sunshine State...
There’s a reason there was a character in The Good Place that was educated in Florida and he was the dumbest character on the show. What did he say his high school was? A bunch of tugboats?
Due to high housing costs and a far-below-the-national-average median household income, Florida ranks an abominable 47th in Opportunity. Are Clay Yahoo and Dave Boracho crafting legislation designed to address this very real need, or are they just going to continue virtue signaling to the xtians of the Sunshine State?
I predict virtue signaling. Addressing housing costs and income inequality doesn't line their pockets or advance Christian Nazionalism.
I cannot complete my geometry homework because God spoke to me and said I'm bound for hell if I do it. Okay being snarky, but you can come up with a religious argument to justify absolutely anything, and you don't have to study a whole lot of history to realize that. No discovery of science ever pointed to the truth of any religious doctrine. Religion has NO place in the public schools, and it is never the job of our secular government to backstop anyone's religious fantasies.
I read the note about this case which was published a few days ago. And I could not get over this complete nonsense!
I have written in the past, that my school was run by nuns. They were nuns of an order, which had dedicated itself to provide education for girls, a bit like the Jesuits did for boys and young men. And in that school the grades for that assignment would have been a big fat zero. A student submitting such a paper might have got the opportunity to resit the assignment, but that’d be it. A campaign such as by her and/or her mother would not have succeeded, they’d have been told not to be so bl**dy stupid, just to wind their neck in and submit a proper essay!
Because what was more important to the school and its leadership was to provide education for girls - and rewarding failure is damaging the education for everyone.
Wait until history class when someone challenges the propaganda version of things like the Crusades and Inquisitions.
Plus Star courts and Auto da fe. The long, bloody and violence soaked history of kkkristerism cannot be denied. 300 years of witch hunts resulted in an estimated 1 million deaths.
All religions have blood on their hands, Christianity has more blood than most though!
Meanwhile, the rest of the world watches, seeing religious nuttery destroy the US China sees the opportunity to surpass us in research, and other countries eye our best talent as switching sides.
I've said this before in different contexts, but what would happen if WE started doing the same things in our assignments, our papers, our professional lives, and in the practice of our daily lives based on our "sincere religious beliefs" -- but in our case, openly discriminating against MAGA, Trump supporters, evangelical Christians, homophobes, transphobes, etc. and telling them will we not do what they request, but also demanding that those people leave, and then claiming that the evangelical Christians and MAGA are "persecuting" US?
I'm a concert-level pianist. I have NO problems telling MAGA, Trump supporters and evangelical Christians that they are NOT welcome at my recitals; and they WILL be turned away. I doubt if it matters to most of them, but it's the principle behind this which matters.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
(Now, since I'm an Episcopalian and most people here are atheists, I would suggest that after my recital we head down to Fogo de Chao for dinner afterwards -- and we can talk about music, or politics, or whatever floats our boat!)
That sounds like fun! I would love to join in. :)
An old favorite of mine, with thanks to Aaron Copland and Leo Smit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdwet79Tyo
I LOVE playing these pieces! Probably my favorite Copland piano pieces!
I discovered them in college from an old Dot album: The Masters Write Jazz. Eventually got the sheet music and learned all four, though I never quite got the handle on the last one. My fave is the 2nd. I love how it flows.
If you’re ever in Seattle, our Fogo de Chao is downtown in Rainier Tower at 400 University St. Suite 100. :)