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oraxx's avatar

I don't think anyone ever did a better job of demonstrating the disconnect between religion and morality than Mike Johnson. On top of intending to inflict enormous suffering on America's most vulnerable by stripping them of healthcare, Johnson wants to criminalize free speech. This obscene bill isn't about righting any wrong, it's all about cruelty, spreading fear and intimidation.

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Linda Bower's avatar

He truly is most wicked. A sadist.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Johnson believes he's Moses. Would that he were just as imaginary.

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Joe King's avatar

If I remember the story correctly, Moses was enough of a dick that Yahweh let him lead the people to the promised land, but wouldn't let the old fart in. If Johnson thinks he's Moses, then he should expect to be struck dead just before he can pass the bill declaring Trump to be God-emperor.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Johnson would think he’s just being a martyr, and expect to be sainted for it.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Moses made sure he wasn't being observed when he murdered an Egyptian and buried his body in the desert. But he still lived in fear that he would be discovered eventually.

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Joe King's avatar

So, Moses had a stonger conscience than Johnson?

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Kay-El's avatar

Lol. I’ve actually labeled him Holy Moses Johnson.

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vibing.'s avatar

Evokes Noah to me (see genesis 9:20-22)

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Jane in NC's avatar

I'm willing to bet cold, hard cash that Mikey has a secret life.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I think he and his son watch porn together on that so-called christian porn app.

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Jane in NC's avatar

I'd be surprised if that's all they do together. Just sayin.....

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yeah, he's one skeevy motherfucker.

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Jane in NC's avatar

He IS. Guy gives me chills, and not in a good way.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

The entire G卐P is sadistic.

𝐀𝐭𝐭𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜 𝐙𝐨𝐦𝐛𝐢𝐞𝐬

The GOP budget is incredibly cruel — and that’s the point

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/attack-of-the-sadistic-zombies

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oraxx's avatar

Once people become convinced they are operating under divine sanction, they're capable of rationalizing an excuse for just about anything. Johnson is such a person.

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John Roberts's avatar

Agreed, Johnson scary with his Christian dogma. Sadly, how and why he got elected tells one a lot about the United States and it's future.

In God We Trust?

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dammitbarry's avatar

This is exactly as kkkristerism demands. Their superstition demands helping only those "worthy" of help.

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Jane in NC's avatar

MAGA is to religion what Donald Trump is to family man.

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Maltnothops's avatar

You know, i don’t judge people by their appearance. That being said, Mike Johnson looks so much the part of a smug, self-righteous Christian asshole that I begin to wonder if I’m stupid for not judging people by their appearance.

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oraxx's avatar

Well, they tend to wear that look like a uniform.

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John Roberts's avatar

"suffering on America's" Please be careful with the word "America" and the way the MAGAs use it. IMO most American countries want nothing to do with the MAGA cult.

Thanks

God Bless America?

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Joe King's avatar

𝑆𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑛𝑜𝑛-𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑓𝑖𝑡 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑠𝑢𝑐ℎ 𝑎 𝑟𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐𝑟𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑇𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑝, 𝑑𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚, 𝑐𝑙𝑎𝑖𝑚𝑒𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑖𝑑 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐽𝑜ℎ𝑛𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡.

Projection, thy name is MAGA.

The NSGOP uses their persecution narrative to shut down any valid pushback, then creates a tool to do the exact same thing to their "enemies" that bypasses all pushback. No due process, no way to get the non-profit status back. They have not thought this through, they do not understand that this tool can be used against them if there is a Democrat in the White House. Or maybe they do, and are going to prevent elections in 2028.

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Die Anyway's avatar

> "...are going to prevent elections in 2028."

It's the only way they stay out of jail.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Kinda hard to take Trump or MAGA seriously on the anti-terrorism BS when Trump is just back from a tour of state sponsors of terrorism and collected bribes everywhere he went, including his giant, new HamasOne airplane. Also, wasn't it Trump and the republicans who just last week threatened to release 'terrorists' [i.e., migrants, documented and undocumented] near the homes of SCOTUS justices who ruled against his rendition policy?

If we're looking for 'enemies of the people', we need look no further than this administration and its elected R flying monkeys.

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John Smith's avatar

And they’re redneck supporters. The average redneck is all gung-ho for a fascist/Christian theocracy, until the average redneck is inconvenience or hurt by the fascist/Christian theocracy then we (non-magas) will hear them whine and complain.

People wonder how Germany slide into fascism, no need to look up history. The world is seeing it happen now in real time. We (non-magas) can now recognize the signs of fascism, unlike the people of 1920’s and1930’s Germany. The ideology was new to the German people and to the world at that time (I could be wrong about that, so please correct me, if I am wrong).

Religion mix with politics is the destroyer of humanity. We (non-magas) must fight back as best we can. Let’s make this version of fascism as short and as painless as possible.

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Jane in NC's avatar

The thing that christian nationalism has in common with fascism and with other periods in the past, e.g, the Red Scare of the 1950s, the witchcraft hysteria of the 17th century, is that they all had convenient scapegoats that adherents were told to blame for all their problems. Scapegoating succeeds, at least for a while, because it's so much easier for people to blame someone else for their fears and misery than it is to do something about it, like take personal responsibility for your life and actions. The right wing's latest scapegoat is immigrants.

One other thing to note is that it's the right-wing that produces these outbursts of fascism throughout our history.

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John Smith's avatar

I would also point out that extreme left also has done evil under communism, and if you go farther left stalinism. Both extremes on either side of the political spectrum has caused much pain and misery for everyone. Humanity must learn moderation and tolerance, and want equality, justice, and prosperity for all. Sometimes I think humans never learn the lessons of the past, and are doomed to repeat them over and over.

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Jane in NC's avatar

I never said leftist extremism doesn't exist and hasn't done harm. But that said, more harm has been done by right-wing extremists by far.

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John Smith's avatar

I agree the extreme right has done much harm so far. I sorry I wasn’t trying to offend you, I was just pointing that out to others (those who are new to this blog/thread) who might be reading this thread, in case they thought only the extreme right was the only one that does harm. My apologies again!

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Jane in NC's avatar

Oh, no worries John. I thought we were just having a good conversation. No need for apologies.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

The GOP are doing their level best to violate their oath to support and defend the Constitution (and with the higher-ups, they are to "preserve, protect and defend" that Constitution).

They are, in effect, traitors.

(EDIT to fix many typos)

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dammitbarry's avatar

"Constitution" is a dirty word to them.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

There it is, folks. There's Trump, doing his best to squelch opinions he doesn't agree with, right along with more tax breaks for his cronies and undercutting public education. The question becomes: will these buried elements get the attention of someone who cares about these issues and does he have the votes to pass it?

And those are questions I want substantial answers to.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

This "one big beautiful bill' reveals that the GOP, who like to label themselves as "pro-life," are most definitely ANTI-life (except for theirs, of course).

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

They are "forced-birthers." They don't give a damn about life they are trying to kill the whole planet.

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Joan the Dork's avatar

Really, I have to wonder how long it's going to be before one of these invertibrate doucheguzzlers introduces a bill that'd require every household to mount a framed photo of Dear Leader on their wall.

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dammitbarry's avatar

Mounted on the toilet with a hole for the mouth

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Joan the Dork's avatar

I don't think I'd want to dignify his face with my excrement.

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Troublesh00ter's avatar

Oh, does THAT work! [yeah, it DOES!]

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Install red tongues and they're the logo for The Rolling Stones.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

"you’ll find a Rolling Stones-inspired row of bright-red, lip-shaped urinals," 😁

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I didn't read the text. Just saw the image and reacted. 😛

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Guerillasurgeon's avatar

Dammit Barry ... Now I can't unsee that.

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larry parker's avatar

I've got one .... on my dart board.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Quick OT

Cher turns 79 today. I hope she outlives that orange lump squatting in the Oval Office.

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Joe King's avatar

Might be interesting for her son Chaz to take his dad's congressional seat. Watch Nancy Mace freak out when he goes into the women's room per her mandate.

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

I'm sure she would enjoy sharing the ladies' room with this person.

https://substackcdn.com/image/youtube/w_728,c_limit/xS0PGJtjTGg

https://buckangel.substack.com/

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

Oops! Did I forget to mention that you can find Buck on the Internet Adult Film Database?

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

She will, the adoration of her wonderful drag queen fans sustains her!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

It should be more than obvious who is truly working against the country's interests. And it ain't liberal non-profits.

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Psittacus Ebrius's avatar

On top of all of this, Oklahoma state School Superintendent Walters has now decreed that beginning next school year high school history classes will add conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. I guess there is no longer any denying that the inmates have taken over the asylum.

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NOGODZ20's avatar

Walters might just wrest that 50th in Education ranking from New Mexico.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

If it passes, he prepared to have orgs like the Red Cross and Doctors without borders to leave or to be targeted. Say hello to more deaths from preventable diseases.

Continue with the tax cuts, let see who will pay for all their salaries, healthcare and benefits when no one will pay taxes because

1) 99,99% of the population won't have the means to eat everyday.

2) The rest, uber indecent rich, will be dispensed to pay them.

The gop try to combine a feudal society with a hyper capitalist one. It can't work.

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Maltnothops's avatar

Your mention of Red Cross has reminded me that I am once again eligible to donate blood. And hence my occasional plea:

About 22 years ago my younger child was diagnosed with Kawasaki Syndrome. Read up on it if you want. The treatment is gamma globulin. One treatment, which pretty much cured my son, is derived from 6000 units of whole blood. Six THOUSAND. It took me a while to get going but I have donated 55 units since then. Only 5,945 to go to repay my debt to humanity. If you are eligible to donate blood, please do it. I thank you. my son thanks you. Humanity thanks you,

I’m O-positive and after some experiments, I found that “power Reds” were the easiest thing for me. A power red is the equivalent of 2 units of whole blood. I donate every 16 weeks. And I’m not lying on my bed for hours afterwards.* YMMV. A friend of mine tried Power reds and it laid him low for days. Me, a single unit of whole blood is terrible but a double unit of power red is no problem.

*I used to lie on the table at Red Cross for hours. They finally told me to stop coming back. Then I discovered Power Red. After I retire I’m going to look into donating plasma.

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Black Hole and DM mourner's avatar

A few months ago, I had to go to a lab to have my blood taken. It took them one hour and three nurses to find a vein (they are "slippery") and manage to take enough blood. Add my phobia, I stayed nearly 30 minutes more until my legs got strong enough to be able to come home.

I am O negative. If I could donate, I would do it.

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Val Uptuous NotAgain's avatar

Are we sure there’s no measures hidden away in this “big beautiful bill” that gives Trump power for life or the ability to pass his position to his kids or you know the shit Hitler did?

This whole bill is terrifying. From the cuts to essential services to attacks on ideological enemies of the administration, to direct attacks on liberties and rights of all citizens, this bill is the last part of what’s left of our democracy. This bill will end everything that supports the levers of our democracy, leaving only a hollow shell of legitimacy to our representative democracy. Once the republican politicians hesitating on it because they’re vulnerable in the midterms realize this bill will eliminate their threats, we’re all cooked.

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Kay-El's avatar

Egon Mulch, lol. I wonder who they’re referring to? 🤔😂

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dammitbarry's avatar

Stolen. I upvoted this first cuz I got manners and shit

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Whitney's avatar

So it's been a tough couple of days for me, I hope everyone else is doing better than I am just now.

While I'm very much pleased to see this section was removed from the bill, I'm still very worried. These MAGA supporters aren't going to stop just because they failed here, they'll come back over and over until they're either unable to keep going. Because their version of reality is 'my way is the right way, because Jesus agrees with me' these folks have zero ability to change their path, no matter how ruinous or wrong. They are fully invested and narcissistic enough that they simply cannot conceive of being anything but right.

Rest assured, we will see a bill very much like this again. And again. And again, until it gets passed or a Democrat is elected president. The real question is what are we going to do about these people, because it's not like we can drop them into SpaceX rockets and leave them on the moon.

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RegularJoe's avatar

High-speed heavy metal poisoning is an effective treatment for infestations of fascists.

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John Smith's avatar

Not the moon because I would like to see a permanent moon colony there. I suggest Venus. Remember that humanity is not to make any claims to Europa.

“All these worlds are yours, except Europa! Make no landings there” 2010: Odyssey Two

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NOGODZ20's avatar

For what it’s worth, that quote came from “2010: Odyssey Two.” :)

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John Smith's avatar

You are so right, I will correct it. Man, how could I be so clueless to not know that it was from the second book. Thanks NOGODZ20!

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NOGODZ20's avatar

My pleasure, fellow space enthusiast.

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larry parker's avatar

Born to Shake it Off.

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I was born to Steak 'n Shake.

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larry parker's avatar

Hungry Heart?

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Zizzer-Zazzer-Zuzz's avatar

I could go for some Barracuda.

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Mr.E's avatar

in the dark

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NOGODZ20's avatar

I was born to raise hell

youtu.be/FjuOPoWGrnE

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Zorginipsoundsor's avatar

👍

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NOGODZ20's avatar

"Those who can, do. Those who can't bitch at those who can."

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Len's avatar

“terribly thought-out legislation”

Understatement of the decade #1.

“They’re not guided by principles.”

Understatement of the decade #2.

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