Jaden Ivey has an absolute First Amendment right to free speech, even speech which is despicable, as we all do. The Supreme Court has been very clear about that over the last 80 years. It's why American Nazis have been able to march through a Jewish enclave such as Skokie, Illinois; or why the Ku Klux Klan can march through a Southern town largely inhabited by people of color. What the Nazi Party and the KKK stand for is utterly despicable. They do have a First Amendment right to voice their views.
HOWEVER Jaden Ivey forgot that along with that absolute First Amendment right to free speech, including speech such as his which is utterly despicable, comes the right to accept the consequences of that speech.
If that means that he loses his job, and becomes unemployable -- that's the consequence of his bigoted "free speech".
If that means members of the Nazi Party or the KKK are publicly identified, as the Internet is so good at doing, and they lose their jobs and are forced to move -- that's the consequence of their "free speech".
Frankly, I don't feel the least bit sorry for him.
What he actually forgot was that private organisations don't owe him freedom of speech. Only the government. They always forget this when they scream censorship.:)
The complication is that the speech in question was directly inspired by his religious beliefs and so may be covered under anti-discrimination policies. I wouldn't be surprised if the current Supreme Court bought that argument.
I don't know who this Kunstler person is, but Metataxas used to be a fairly mainstream and normal "establishment" Christian commentator/historian. In the Trump years, dude has gone batshit crazy.
Christian bigot behaves badly. Faces negative consequences. Cries "persecution!" Rinse. Repeat.
As predictable as the sun rising in the East.
His supporters will paint it as behaving righteously and I suspect the Supreme Court will buy it.
Jaden Ivey thinks about men having sex more than I do and I'm gay.
I suspect there's a reason men having sex is on his brain. It's usually the loudest anti-gay bigots with biggest secrets.
Yep, huge red flag, like all those blathering about everyone else being a pedophile.
OT: Judges block the orange pedo from continuing his ballroom project unless congress approves it and also from defunding NPR and PBS.
Woo hoo!!!
He will be up all night ranting. Hoping for the big, beautiful obituary.
His ballroom that never was is getting a ketchup remodel tonight.
I prefer him not to get away from being put in jail on the grounds that he is doolally tap.
They´re coming to take him away,
Haha, they´re coming to take him away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I´ll be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take him away, HA HAAAA
My first *thought* every morning when I wake up is "Well, I'm awake. I guess they didn't nuke MacDill AFB overnight."
My first *question* is "Is he dead yet?". A quick check online has so far proven disappointing.
Jaden Ivey has an absolute First Amendment right to free speech, even speech which is despicable, as we all do. The Supreme Court has been very clear about that over the last 80 years. It's why American Nazis have been able to march through a Jewish enclave such as Skokie, Illinois; or why the Ku Klux Klan can march through a Southern town largely inhabited by people of color. What the Nazi Party and the KKK stand for is utterly despicable. They do have a First Amendment right to voice their views.
HOWEVER Jaden Ivey forgot that along with that absolute First Amendment right to free speech, including speech such as his which is utterly despicable, comes the right to accept the consequences of that speech.
If that means that he loses his job, and becomes unemployable -- that's the consequence of his bigoted "free speech".
If that means members of the Nazi Party or the KKK are publicly identified, as the Internet is so good at doing, and they lose their jobs and are forced to move -- that's the consequence of their "free speech".
Frankly, I don't feel the least bit sorry for him.
What he actually forgot was that private organisations don't owe him freedom of speech. Only the government. They always forget this when they scream censorship.:)
A very important point.
The complication is that the speech in question was directly inspired by his religious beliefs and so may be covered under anti-discrimination policies. I wouldn't be surprised if the current Supreme Court bought that argument.
They never thank god when they lose.
They should condemn God when they lose surely?
*insert link (that I don't have access to) of video of athlete blaming god*
Just seeing this. Here 'tis
youtu.be/9dMSvXE9Gxw
Thank you.
Happy to do it.
"Success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan."
https://www.peoplefor.org/rightwingwatch/something-civil-war-eric-metaxas-and-james-kunstler-suggest-trump-needs-outlaw
this is completely insane
Kunstler lives in my region. I've heard him speak at events. Didn't know he was a fucking RWNJ.
Metaxas on the other hand. I'm not even American and even I know he sneaked up behind some poor bugger hit him in the head and then ran away.
I don't know who this Kunstler person is, but Metataxas used to be a fairly mainstream and normal "establishment" Christian commentator/historian. In the Trump years, dude has gone batshit crazy.
“It is BETTER to remain SILENT and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and REMOVE ALL DOUBT”-Anonymous
Nuff said.
Some wise words from Odin in the Hávamál:
"The fool who fancies he is full of wisdom
While he sits by his hearth at home.
Quickly finds when questioned by others .
That he knows nothing at all.
The ignorant booby had best be silent
When he moves among other men,
No one will know what a nit-wit he is
Until he begins to talk;
No one knows less what a nit-wit he is
Than the man who talks too much. "
It's a brother to the verse in Proverbs which says "Even a fool, when he holds his peace, is counted wise".
Always relevant:
https://xkcd.com/1357/
Good!!! I wish we could get rid of low IQ convicted felon politicians like they did Ivey.
Like you say, sports is a never ending procession of athletes pushing their religious conviction that god somehow made them win. It's disgusting.
https://imgflip.com/i/2r75hk
Maybe this black and poor persecuted Christian could compete against a gay person in the Oppression Olympics. First prize is Martyrdom.
heard rumors that Kristi Noems husband was allegedly outed by a illegal immigrant
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kristi-noem-husband-accused-living-152803288.html
I'm sorry I saw the picture...BLEH.
Thanks for the warning. I didn't look.
No wonder she's shagging someone else.
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ttquxrl3f7ajiytcuiiyrehe/bafkreie4xobby5m2k6xqnzrrnyjrmevkmlwnoqcqhqzrnhqi3k4ktn7b5e
Makes Kyrie Irving's Moslem nonsense and flat-earthism seem sane and reasonable.
Talk about a locker room cancer. I bet his teammates could not stand to be around him.
Doubling down.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/jaden-ivey-slams-stephen-curry-after-getting-waived-by-bulls-i-pray-he-s-saved-in-jesus-name/ar-AA1ZMzl5
What an asshole.
"The world can proclaim LGBTQ… They proclaim Pride Month in the NBA. They proclaim it"
Proclaim!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKxVjm2MFwE&list=RDNKxVjm2MFwE&start_radio=1