This is, of course, the ANTITHESIS of protecting children ... AND adults, for that matter. Sadly, this is also what happens when religion [read: Christianity] so dominates one's thinking that logic and reason are forced to take second seat, if that.
This continued moving backward by some states is truly frightening.
I wouldn't want to be a kid in West Virginia right now, vaccinated or not. Governor Morrisey just made the Mountain State one hell of a lot more dangerous for anyone, child or adult, with a compromised immune system or in a family that doesn't believe in inoculation. I mean it when I say this genuinely makes me sad. It also reminds me of a quote that I think is entirely on point:
There are pictures. There are first-hand accounts. There are graves. There is no excuse for not being aware of the history. The anti-vax wing of the NSGOP is also opposed to teaching accurate history for a reason.
All it takes is a generation without memory of the disease for the ignorant to discount its danger. My grandparents lived through the flu pandemic of 1918 and used to tell us about it when we were children.
As with so many other things, this is an education issue, one which is never-ending and utterly necessary. George Santayana was probably more prescient than he knew when he spoke those words.
And it's our responsibility and our children's to make that happen.
Refusing to vaccinate your children should be prima facie for child neglect and such children should be immediately removed from the parent(s) and given appropriate medical care. The parents should then be prosecuted.
It's not rocket surgery, harmful stupidity should cost dearly.
Don't tell me you're 'pro-life' and then pull this shit. HALF of West Virginia's state budget comes directly from our federal tax dollars. It's about time blue donor states stopped funding the religious and scientific ignorance of moocher red states.
There was a meme circulating during the pandemic. first line said “you can’t fix stupid”. The second line was a cartoon Covid virus saying, “I can fix stupid.”
So one woman is worried about offending God, and everyone else gets to suffer, because that’s what God wants. According to her.
I’m sure everyone else is saying this, but I’ll say it. I feel sorry for the kids. For everyone else, I ran out of fucks to give a long time ago. My local major Metropolitan newspaper published a letter from me a while ago on this very subject, although they did delete some of the juicier parts. They didn’t print the part about the “kleptocratic kakistocracy’ that is currently running our country. Perhaps because I didn’t spell it properly: Kkkleptocratic kkakistocracy”.
Religious freedom is now like gun freedom. You have the freedom to own as many guns of whatever type and lethality you wish, and no one else’s rights, even the right to stay alive, matter. You can believe whatever you wish, and if you claim that your religious rights are being violated, to hell with everybody else’s rights—not to get sick, not to have their kids get sick,not to lose work—those rights don’t matter.
50 years of red states republican governance, and their lives are not better for it. They STILL rank atthe lowest levels of every measure of social health and well-being.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
Sadly, there have evolved more pernicious and persistent strains of stupidity since Bob's time, and we are stuck with having to deal with their ignorant cluelessness, until their continued lack of understanding catches fatally up with them.
We can only hope they get their wish and go to see their god soon. I feel sorry for the kids who will never have a full life, but I can’t do anything about it.
I disagree, unless he was in hibernation until the trial, he can't not know about the outbreaks in texass and florihell. Not counting the Covid pandemic.
Any judge who wants to prioritize superstition over scientific fact deserves all the blame and derision he or she gets. This is the 21st century, and such people should know better.
That they either don't know better or refuse to acknowledge facts earns them such reward.
Willful ignorance is a byproduct of the religious indoctrination. So many people there are wilfully ignorant of science and history that they proclaim themselves proud southerners, forgetting the fact that they only exist as a state separate from Virginia because they chose to be part of the north.
They hate vaccines because the covid vaccine mandate came during the Biden administration, and since it was a Democrat telling them what to do, that made it evil and anti-Christian. The historically high vaccination rates in WV show that the anti-vax sentiment there is tied closely to the fusion of conservative Christianity and the NSGOP.
The parents of those who cannot be vaccinated due to medical reasons need to file a suit demanding that schools that they attend have 100% vaccination rates for all other students.
Someone with a child that cannot take the vaccine due to medical reasons needs to file a lawsuit against the religious exemption clause. Your freedom of religion does not supersede my right to health.
WV will be enjoying their measles outbreak much like Texas did. When their kids catch it will a god be there to intervene or will they go against their faith in the supposed infallible god and head to a hospital?
7 rural hospitals in danger of closing and not getting vaccinated is a recipe for a humongous epidemic and health disaster. Mortuaries will do a fine business. 🙄
Once again, the religious claim of "protecting children" rings hollow.
We all know that their idea of "protecting children" is forcing childbirth then mandatory indoctrination for easier exploitation.
This is, of course, the ANTITHESIS of protecting children ... AND adults, for that matter. Sadly, this is also what happens when religion [read: Christianity] so dominates one's thinking that logic and reason are forced to take second seat, if that.
This continued moving backward by some states is truly frightening.
All they care about is forced births. What happens to children is not their concern.
Perhaps we should stop calling them anti-axxers and call them what they truly are: pro-plaguers.
For the same reason we call them forced birthers.
Chew toy lower in the thread. Go for it quick because I am about to invoke the boss.
Please do. What an ignorant POS. They only have the luxury of vaccine denial because the majority of the population is vaccinated.
Hemant accidentally triggered my phobia with the picture. I am not exactly in a good mood now.
If you need to take a break, please do so. I think I can speak for all the regulars here when I say we care about how you are.
Thanks, it will pass*, I just have to remember not to read the post again.
* I am reading to try to calm down.
Me either. Polio affected two members of my family with lifelong consequences. Anti-vaxxers are the worst of the science denying trash on the planet.
I have a cousin who contracted polio in the 1950s.
She was lucky in the sense that it only paralyzed one arm and she has been able to lead a normal life with only a slight disability.
Done. Not that it will change chew toy's "mind."
I call them plague rats.
(On FB be careful to refer to them in the third person else you might get suspended for 'bullying'.)
Luckily, FB and I have an understanding. I don't go there, so they don't bother me, An equitable agreement.
All part of their plan to bring about ZPG.
We keep saying it and it continues to be true: Religion is poison. Religion kills.
I wouldn't want to be a kid in West Virginia right now, vaccinated or not. Governor Morrisey just made the Mountain State one hell of a lot more dangerous for anyone, child or adult, with a compromised immune system or in a family that doesn't believe in inoculation. I mean it when I say this genuinely makes me sad. It also reminds me of a quote that I think is entirely on point:
𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑎 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑈𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑆𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑙𝑤𝑎𝑦𝑠 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛. 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑖𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑎𝑛𝑡𝑖-𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑠𝑚 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑛𝑑𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑝𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒, 𝑛𝑢𝑟𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑎𝑙𝑠𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑜𝑐𝑟𝑎𝑐𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡: "𝑀𝑦 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑠 𝑔𝑜𝑜𝑑 𝑎𝑠 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤𝑙𝑒𝑑𝑔𝑒."
-- Isaac Asimov
This
https://ibb.co/prMtBz7B
Exactly. And once again we run into the age-old problem:
𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑚𝑏𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑚𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑡.
-- George Santayana
There are pictures. There are first-hand accounts. There are graves. There is no excuse for not being aware of the history. The anti-vax wing of the NSGOP is also opposed to teaching accurate history for a reason.
Unfortunately, there are idiots who still deny the Holocaust happened despite the tons of evidence.
Some people need to be slapped upside the head for their willful ignorance.
Or call it "un détail de l'histoire", la peine père, asshole extraordinaire.
All it takes is a generation without memory of the disease for the ignorant to discount its danger. My grandparents lived through the flu pandemic of 1918 and used to tell us about it when we were children.
Some of these people are so willfully ignorant that they refuse to accept the truth 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘢 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘭𝘺 𝘱𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘤.
You mean the slight cold season a few years ago? They all would have died anyway.
Eat well, stay fit, die anyway!
Yeah, that too. Unless it happens to them personally, it wasn't dangerous.
🙄
As with so many other things, this is an education issue, one which is never-ending and utterly necessary. George Santayana was probably more prescient than he knew when he spoke those words.
And it's our responsibility and our children's to make that happen.
Part of remembering that past ie;polio lead me to 40 years working in Virology.
Whoa! VERY far out! 👍
And this:
https://mastodon.world/@jeffowski/113688208378817472
That is exactly the "logic" they use.
When Miranda Guzman and her fellow morons are faced with children sick or dying from a preventable disease, she will blame liberals.
Of course. Blame ANYONE but the culpable parties.
Why not, they can deny you your birth control if the pharmacist says it's against their religion
They forget that pharmacists are not on a par with doctors.
They still do it. Hemant did a couple of posts about this years ago.
Refusing to vaccinate your children should be prima facie for child neglect and such children should be immediately removed from the parent(s) and given appropriate medical care. The parents should then be prosecuted.
It's not rocket surgery, harmful stupidity should cost dearly.
Don't tell me you're 'pro-life' and then pull this shit. HALF of West Virginia's state budget comes directly from our federal tax dollars. It's about time blue donor states stopped funding the religious and scientific ignorance of moocher red states.
I. Can’t. Even.
There was a meme circulating during the pandemic. first line said “you can’t fix stupid”. The second line was a cartoon Covid virus saying, “I can fix stupid.”
So one woman is worried about offending God, and everyone else gets to suffer, because that’s what God wants. According to her.
I’m sure everyone else is saying this, but I’ll say it. I feel sorry for the kids. For everyone else, I ran out of fucks to give a long time ago. My local major Metropolitan newspaper published a letter from me a while ago on this very subject, although they did delete some of the juicier parts. They didn’t print the part about the “kleptocratic kakistocracy’ that is currently running our country. Perhaps because I didn’t spell it properly: Kkkleptocratic kkakistocracy”.
Religious freedom is now like gun freedom. You have the freedom to own as many guns of whatever type and lethality you wish, and no one else’s rights, even the right to stay alive, matter. You can believe whatever you wish, and if you claim that your religious rights are being violated, to hell with everybody else’s rights—not to get sick, not to have their kids get sick,not to lose work—those rights don’t matter.
50 years of red states republican governance, and their lives are not better for it. They STILL rank atthe lowest levels of every measure of social health and well-being.
As a society, we are sick.
In more ways than one.
𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑐𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦, 𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑔ℎ 𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑜𝑟 𝑏𝑦 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛. 𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎 𝑠𝑖𝑛; 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑚 𝑐𝑎𝑛'𝑡 ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑝 𝑏𝑒𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑. 𝐵𝑢𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑛𝑙𝑦 𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑎𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙 𝑐𝑟𝑖𝑚𝑒; 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑎𝑡ℎ, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑙, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑥𝑒𝑐𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑖𝑠 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑎𝑢𝑡𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑝𝑖𝑡𝑦.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long
Sadly, there have evolved more pernicious and persistent strains of stupidity since Bob's time, and we are stuck with having to deal with their ignorant cluelessness, until their continued lack of understanding catches fatally up with them.
We can only hope they get their wish and go to see their god soon. I feel sorry for the kids who will never have a full life, but I can’t do anything about it.
Seeing a god that doesn't exist. That'd be a trick. 😝
But we are told that God can do anything*. So even if he doesn’t exist, he can exist.
*except say HELLO!
"Hello, is it me you're looking for?"
Oh my god. Its god! And he's speaking to me on this Internet thingy
Even stupider is imaginary enemies.
gordamitee always sides with the tyrant.
https://ibb.co/gn1gDQN
Wow! Very DAMNED well put!
"We can’t lay the blame on one judge"
I disagree, unless he was in hibernation until the trial, he can't not know about the outbreaks in texass and florihell. Not counting the Covid pandemic.
Any judge who wants to prioritize superstition over scientific fact deserves all the blame and derision he or she gets. This is the 21st century, and such people should know better.
That they either don't know better or refuse to acknowledge facts earns them such reward.
𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑑 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑣𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑘𝑒𝑝𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑚𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑠𝑎𝑓𝑒. 𝐵𝑢𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑒 𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑗𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑜𝑓 𝑊𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑉𝑖𝑟𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑎 𝑣𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑒, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑛𝑜 𝑙𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑑𝑒𝑓𝑒𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑢𝑏𝑙𝑖𝑐 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑖𝑟𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑣𝑜𝑖𝑐𝑒𝑠.
Willful ignorance is a byproduct of the religious indoctrination. So many people there are wilfully ignorant of science and history that they proclaim themselves proud southerners, forgetting the fact that they only exist as a state separate from Virginia because they chose to be part of the north.
They hate vaccines because the covid vaccine mandate came during the Biden administration, and since it was a Democrat telling them what to do, that made it evil and anti-Christian. The historically high vaccination rates in WV show that the anti-vax sentiment there is tied closely to the fusion of conservative Christianity and the NSGOP.
The parents of those who cannot be vaccinated due to medical reasons need to file a suit demanding that schools that they attend have 100% vaccination rates for all other students.
Someone with a child that cannot take the vaccine due to medical reasons needs to file a lawsuit against the religious exemption clause. Your freedom of religion does not supersede my right to health.
WV will be enjoying their measles outbreak much like Texas did. When their kids catch it will a god be there to intervene or will they go against their faith in the supposed infallible god and head to a hospital?
"and head to a hospital?" - Maybe not.
https://mountainstatespotlight.org/2025/07/02/medicaid-cuts-to-close-hospitals/
7 rural hospitals in danger of closing and not getting vaccinated is a recipe for a humongous epidemic and health disaster. Mortuaries will do a fine business. 🙄
Oops. They are about to have the day the voted for.