Republicans pander to the preachers while viewing human decency as a character flaw. They constantly demonstrate the disconnect between religion and morality. Slapping the word Christian on something does not render it moral. Voting from religious conviction puts every single freedom you have in jeopardy, because authoritarian government and conservative religion are natural allies. It is a symbiotic relationship that does not believe in personal freedom and has dealt humanity nothing but misery.
It sure as hell doesn't. In fact, these days it more indicates some policy that evangelicals want to superimpose on the entire populace, whether they want/like/need it or not. This isn't just Christian Nationalism raising its head here.
Lust for power, sure, but at some level or other, it's about eliminating that pesky cognitive dissonance they run onto every time someone expresses a point of view that ISN'T THEIRS!
I will not spend my money at any business that is holier than thou (looking at you Hobby Lobby), I did not take my children to church and I’ll vote like an atheist to keep Christian Nationalism at bay.
Forever 21, I find that hilarious because the clothing they sell is trampy in my opinion and it takes a lot for me to say that as I don’t judge, but the owners are super religious (they put Bible verses on their bags) but sell immodest clothing to girls. Hypocrisy thy name is Christianity. (Mostly it’s greed that’s driving the hypocrisy)
People are driven by, among other things, herd instinct, team loyalty, religious fervor, machismo, mother love, romantic love, pain, the service motive, and the profit motive. Only one of those groups ever gets rich. But that’s the one that always brags about how much better it is than all the others.
I voted like an atheist and rejected the theocratic wannabe ticket. I also voted like an actual believer and rejected the guy who cannot claim adherence to any one of the 10 commandments.
The fact that they’re holding a rally like this while women are actively dying from this type of legislation just shows me that they are the cruelest of evil. I’m less offended by the attack on my religious non-belief than I am the attack on my humanity as a woman and the complete lack of empathy for the deceased or tortured women across the country. Yes, it sucks that they’re claiming anyone who doesn’t think exactly like them is an atheist, but that’s just typical. They spend all their time seeking out heretics. Burning people over minor interpretation discrepancies is par for the course in Christianity. They’ll stop doing that when the religion is dead. Like the women who are facing pregnancy complications.
Yes. Maybe a good reply is "vote like DeSantis' restriction would apply to you, too." Or maybe "vote like you will be unable to take your daughter out of state for a doctor-shopped, absolutely-not-abortion alternative medical treatment."
While if women are dying from this that means that they were not really good women. If a woman dies from pregnancy complications, it's her fault for getting knocked-up.
Thanks Hemant for the post. As a Florida physician, I will say that it goes beyond her comments. Florida’s state government wants to become the Hungary of the caribbean. The department of health is funding anti-choice propaganda and the state health department is parroting anti-vax talking points. Not to mention “election police” knocking on the doors who signed the amendment 4 initiative. This is the future of red states going forward.
It's such fun living in Hungarian fascist Florida isn't it? What worries me is they don't even bother to hide the corruption anymore it's just so "In your face!"
So what is an atheist? To me, it's a person who thinks for themselves. I am one such atheist that will vote for the Democratic Party all the way down the ballot.
I am not surprised that the assholes in charge of Florida openly used religious reasons to oppose bodily autonomy. It is also not surprising that they are requiring a 60% supermajority to pass the ballot measure that they have also been lying about.
They are using religious guilt to push people to their position. They need to ramp up the guilt and fear to convince the religious people that don't realize that the opposition to abortion is purely religious in violation of the Establishment Clause. The religious people that are aware of that already want to eliminate the entire First Amendment.
I don't hold out a lot of hope for Amendment 4, but what a hoot it would be if it DOES pass! It would all but amount to a wholesale rejection of DeSantis and his bullshit, and that is so necessary in the current environment than I can begin to express in words!
I have hope, Troubleshooter. Women will drive this Roevember election. The polls are not worthy of our time and consideration. Women are going to rise up and give our country new hope.
Well, Kansas (and my home state of Ohio) didn't have to deal with a super-majority vote, like Florida does. One hopes they come close, if not exceed the needed 60%!
It could be a lot better (for example, if it ended at the ninth word past the title), but it'd still be a major improvement over the de facto total ban that DeSeptic and his minions have imposed.
The last sentence seriously disturbs me. Teenagers should not have to involve their parents in healthcare unless they want to. She shouldn't have to involve her parents in asking for birth-control and he shouldn't have to involve them in treatment for sores on his genitals.
It gets even squickier, considering the very real possibility that an underage pregnancy could have been caused by rape at the hands of a close relative. A child's right to not be forced into parenthood should be 𝘢𝘣𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘦. No exceptions, no questions asked, no duty to inform a parent or guardian (only CPS, if there's cause to suspect abuse in the home). Some shit just should not be subject to parental veto; children are people, 𝘯𝘰𝘵 possessions, no matter what the Republican party thinks.
All the christians who plan to vote for Donald Trump are doing exactly the sort of thing they LOVE to believe about atheists - acting without moral fiber or compass. Someone on social media posted a photo of a hilarious bumpersticker that read: "Every time a Christian defends Trump, an angel loses its lunch." Here, Nuñez is doing what she and other christians are always falsely complaining about - targeting people of a certain belief group for discrimination, stereotyping and scapegoating. It points out, again, that when right-wing conservatives talk about 'religious freedom', they only mean of, by and for christians.
It's clear that the belief demographic shift underway in this country is being ignored by religious zealots in elected office: at LEAST a third of their electorates are unaffiliated with any religion, or are atheists and agnostics. We have a wall of separation between religion and government built into our Constitution for a reason. Lt. Gov. Nuñez just demonstrated why. Despicable woman.
While US have that wall of separation in their constitution but not for real, Norway have only half wall in our constitution. But most of us act like it is a complete wall. Our monarch has to be Christian. And it's so outdated to have a ruler that's not elected by the people.
They don't care about abortion. If they did, they would be the biggest cheerleaders in the country for sex education in schools and stop pushing the impossible goal of abstinence as the only option. They would advocate for free and easily accessible birth control. They wouldn't work so hard to forgive the men, usually church leaders, who have sexually assaulted young women because forcing women to have babies after being violated makes their cause especially repugnant. In short, they would try and prevent unwanted pregnancy every way they could by facing up to the fact that people are sexual beings instead of forcing every woman who has "sinned" to bear the consequences of an encounter with a MAN, whose role in baby is generally ignored by these idiots.
Umm... they didn't directly call for the death of women for having sex with their husbands, just anybody else. Though she did have to wait until after the wedding. What he was doing before the wedding never really seemed to be a concern.
I was always taught that the women still were not supposed to enjoy sex, even with their husbands (it was their "duty"). If they did, it meant they were slutty, lustful, wicked temptresses who would either endanger their spouse's "holiness" by corrupting him, a la that Loose Woman in Proverbs 5: 3-22, or they would cheat on him because of their unbridled lust. So sex-as-fun is still forbidden for women. Keeeeee-hrist, I used to believe some fucked-up shit, even when I could see how one-sided it was. It still amazes me.
In the show 𝘙𝘢𝘮𝘺, there was a scene in one episode where the sister and her friends lament over the fact that Muslim women are expected to be virgins on their wedding night, and the men aren't.
If it passes, I recommend starting a GoFundMe to send a lifetime supply of weed to Mar-a-Lago. I can't think of anyone who could possibly need to mellow the fuck out more than...
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...the poor staff who have to put up with Trump on a daily basis. What, you thought I was gonna say to give it to the man himself? Fuck that. Let the evil bastard stew in his rage until he gives himself an aneurysm.
I need some weed this past several months to reduce my high (no pun intented) anxiety from this election. I'm a mess. I thought about driving from TN to MO to buy (legal there)........but didn't.
Yeah, 2 was bullshit they are trying to get sick rich fucks to be able to come hunting here. Anything pushed by the reps is automatically something we don't want.
I have voted like an atheist since I could vote. It’s not always about me and my needs but what’s most helpful for the community and country. No gods have ever entered the picture, not even a hint of WWJD. None can run for office so why would I take their word through their false prophets under advisement.
"WWJD" is, however, a relevant response here, since according to the NT he hung out with prostitutes and other social outcasts. Hmmm...how would they vote on contraception and women's health issues?
In all seriousness, I suspect there's more than a little of that going around the States lately. I say that because I'm going through it, too. This whole business has me more than a little rattled, yet equally determined to vote and do whatever else I can to keep Trump out of the White House and preferably IN PRISON!!!
Okay, Jennette, how about this: Are you more concerned about turning your back on a deity whose existence is at best questionable and at worst utterly undemonstrable ... OR do you think you should be MORE concerned about the needs of women whose untoward pregnancies (and there have been a LOT of them lately!) threaten their lives???
She is more concerned about turning her back on a fiction, because it has never been about preserving life. They don't care how many pregnant corpses they have to step over as long as they can maintain the iron grip of control.
Exactly. They are perfectly fine with us dying. We are collateral damage, totally acceptable to them. It tracks given they are part of the death cult......just look at communion rituals: drinking the blood of christ and eating the body of christ. If a pagan did this with wine & wafers in the woods worshipping sun goddes, they'd call her a devil worshipper. The dead miscarried fetus and mother are cult objects to these zealots.
Forced birthers are not ready to publicly recognise there is a significant number of married, or in a stable relationship, women who need or want an abortion.
I would have been arrested for my miscarriage if it had happened today. Mostly because I flushed it. But, in just a few months it will likely because I had to have done something wrong to cause the miscarriage, even though I did not.
They are aware. Plenty of abortion clinic nurses, doctors, escorts have specifically talked about women coming off the anti-abortion protest lines to get abortions. Many of the protesters at these clinics are paid to protest all day.....it's their full time job, the money to pay them comes from religious and conservative organizations.
Even when the anti-abortion protesters who really are anti-abortion get an abortion, they think THEY are different and SPECIAL......not like them other women that get abortions.....no no......they are sluts. The Baptist gal getting an abortion really needs one..... her situation is so special, so unique, there's no one else like her in the world....
Toxic Purity Culture. Elizabeth Smart talks about this, that's why she didn't run away when she had chances.....religion taught her that she was now damaged, used gum is what she says. But of course she's still a Mormon and married to a Mormon.
My great grandmother and some of her daughters did, but they didn't have really the choice since any mention of birth control was strictly forbidden between 1920 and 1967. My GGM first child was born in 1928.
1000 thanks to Mme Marie-Andrée Lagroua Weill-Hallé, Mr Neuwirth and others who fought for this fundamental right
Republicans pander to the preachers while viewing human decency as a character flaw. They constantly demonstrate the disconnect between religion and morality. Slapping the word Christian on something does not render it moral. Voting from religious conviction puts every single freedom you have in jeopardy, because authoritarian government and conservative religion are natural allies. It is a symbiotic relationship that does not believe in personal freedom and has dealt humanity nothing but misery.
𝑆𝑙𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑑 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑛 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑡 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑙.
It sure as hell doesn't. In fact, these days it more indicates some policy that evangelicals want to superimpose on the entire populace, whether they want/like/need it or not. This isn't just Christian Nationalism raising its head here.
It's Christian Fascism.
+++ I will never understand why mere religious freedom isn't enough for some people.
It's the lust for power.
That's exactly what it is.......
Lust for power, sure, but at some level or other, it's about eliminating that pesky cognitive dissonance they run onto every time someone expresses a point of view that ISN'T THEIRS!
If a business loudly advertises its piety, hide your wallet.
If a priest loudly proclaims his piety, hide your children.
If a 𝘨𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘯𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 loudly proclaims its piety...
I will not spend my money at any business that is holier than thou (looking at you Hobby Lobby), I did not take my children to church and I’ll vote like an atheist to keep Christian Nationalism at bay.
hobby lobby, chic filay, carl's/Hardees, home depot
Forever 21, I find that hilarious because the clothing they sell is trampy in my opinion and it takes a lot for me to say that as I don’t judge, but the owners are super religious (they put Bible verses on their bags) but sell immodest clothing to girls. Hypocrisy thy name is Christianity. (Mostly it’s greed that’s driving the hypocrisy)
They need to sell slutty clothes in order to protect good white christian boys accused of rape.
People are driven by, among other things, herd instinct, team loyalty, religious fervor, machismo, mother love, romantic love, pain, the service motive, and the profit motive. Only one of those groups ever gets rich. But that’s the one that always brags about how much better it is than all the others.
It's right up there with their child-bride hyper-sexualization attitudes though. sick fucking fucks.
Oh, HELL, yeah! 👍👍👍
That's where my dad got the wisdom that he taught us from!
Hasn't that been their goal for a while? They are on their way unless other xians and all atheists and nones start cooperating.
It's always been their goal, and it isn't limited to Christianity.
Indeed
I voted like an atheist and rejected the theocratic wannabe ticket. I also voted like an actual believer and rejected the guy who cannot claim adherence to any one of the 10 commandments.
The fact that they’re holding a rally like this while women are actively dying from this type of legislation just shows me that they are the cruelest of evil. I’m less offended by the attack on my religious non-belief than I am the attack on my humanity as a woman and the complete lack of empathy for the deceased or tortured women across the country. Yes, it sucks that they’re claiming anyone who doesn’t think exactly like them is an atheist, but that’s just typical. They spend all their time seeking out heretics. Burning people over minor interpretation discrepancies is par for the course in Christianity. They’ll stop doing that when the religion is dead. Like the women who are facing pregnancy complications.
Let’s not forget that lives are at stake here.
To them the only life that matters are those inside a pregnant woman's body.
Not even that life really. Their life and theirs alone is all that matters. And if they can get some power over others, all the better.
Yes. Maybe a good reply is "vote like DeSantis' restriction would apply to you, too." Or maybe "vote like you will be unable to take your daughter out of state for a doctor-shopped, absolutely-not-abortion alternative medical treatment."
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And ONLY while it's INSIDE. Once the kid comes out, all bets are off!
To quote the Great Carlin "Preborn you're fine, preschool you're fucked"
And even then only in the abstract, or they would vote for mandatory free pre-natal care.
While if women are dying from this that means that they were not really good women. If a woman dies from pregnancy complications, it's her fault for getting knocked-up.
Thanks Hemant for the post. As a Florida physician, I will say that it goes beyond her comments. Florida’s state government wants to become the Hungary of the caribbean. The department of health is funding anti-choice propaganda and the state health department is parroting anti-vax talking points. Not to mention “election police” knocking on the doors who signed the amendment 4 initiative. This is the future of red states going forward.
And it's scary as fuck.
It's such fun living in Hungarian fascist Florida isn't it? What worries me is they don't even bother to hide the corruption anymore it's just so "In your face!"
So what is an atheist? To me, it's a person who thinks for themselves. I am one such atheist that will vote for the Democratic Party all the way down the ballot.
Don't look now, but you're in some damned good company! 👍
I am not surprised that the assholes in charge of Florida openly used religious reasons to oppose bodily autonomy. It is also not surprising that they are requiring a 60% supermajority to pass the ballot measure that they have also been lying about.
They are using religious guilt to push people to their position. They need to ramp up the guilt and fear to convince the religious people that don't realize that the opposition to abortion is purely religious in violation of the Establishment Clause. The religious people that are aware of that already want to eliminate the entire First Amendment.
I don't hold out a lot of hope for Amendment 4, but what a hoot it would be if it DOES pass! It would all but amount to a wholesale rejection of DeSantis and his bullshit, and that is so necessary in the current environment than I can begin to express in words!
I have hope, Troubleshooter. Women will drive this Roevember election. The polls are not worthy of our time and consideration. Women are going to rise up and give our country new hope.
From your lips to the IPU's ears.
Shooshoo, maybe Florida is actually Kansas.
Well, Kansas (and my home state of Ohio) didn't have to deal with a super-majority vote, like Florida does. One hopes they come close, if not exceed the needed 60%!
I remember reading that for the Amendment in Kansas to pass, registered republicans had to vote for it, and some did.
Not all repukelicans are batshit crazy.
And realize it could affect them too.
Can you remind me what amendement 4 is about?
Glad to. Per Google, as regards Florida Amendment 4:
𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝐿𝑖𝑚𝑖𝑡 𝐺𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝐼𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝐴𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑁𝑜 𝑙𝑎𝑤 𝑠ℎ𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑝𝑟𝑜ℎ𝑖𝑏𝑖𝑡, 𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑒, 𝑑𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑦, 𝑜𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑡 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑎𝑏𝑖𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑜𝑟 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑛𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡’𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ, 𝑎𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡’𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑣𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑟. 𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑛𝑔𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐿𝑒𝑔𝑖𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑟𝑒 𝑛𝑜𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑎 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑟 𝑔𝑢𝑎𝑟𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑎 𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑜𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑠 𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛.
It could be a lot better (for example, if it ended at the ninth word past the title), but it'd still be a major improvement over the de facto total ban that DeSeptic and his minions have imposed.
The last sentence seriously disturbs me. Teenagers should not have to involve their parents in healthcare unless they want to. She shouldn't have to involve her parents in asking for birth-control and he shouldn't have to involve them in treatment for sores on his genitals.
It gets even squickier, considering the very real possibility that an underage pregnancy could have been caused by rape at the hands of a close relative. A child's right to not be forced into parenthood should be 𝘢𝘣𝘴𝘰𝘭𝘶𝘵𝘦. No exceptions, no questions asked, no duty to inform a parent or guardian (only CPS, if there's cause to suspect abuse in the home). Some shit just should not be subject to parental veto; children are people, 𝘯𝘰𝘵 possessions, no matter what the Republican party thinks.
My belief as well, if they could tell their parents they WOULD tell their parents.
Thank you.
My pleasure, Straw.
Protection of reproductive rights.
It should pass, only the whackos wanted the abortion ban.
NEVER! They can STICK RELIGIOUS RULE RIGHT UP THERE SICK CULT RIDDEN ASSES!
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The 60% is because they raised it, after we voted to pass felons rights restoration.
All the christians who plan to vote for Donald Trump are doing exactly the sort of thing they LOVE to believe about atheists - acting without moral fiber or compass. Someone on social media posted a photo of a hilarious bumpersticker that read: "Every time a Christian defends Trump, an angel loses its lunch." Here, Nuñez is doing what she and other christians are always falsely complaining about - targeting people of a certain belief group for discrimination, stereotyping and scapegoating. It points out, again, that when right-wing conservatives talk about 'religious freedom', they only mean of, by and for christians.
It's clear that the belief demographic shift underway in this country is being ignored by religious zealots in elected office: at LEAST a third of their electorates are unaffiliated with any religion, or are atheists and agnostics. We have a wall of separation between religion and government built into our Constitution for a reason. Lt. Gov. Nuñez just demonstrated why. Despicable woman.
While US have that wall of separation in their constitution but not for real, Norway have only half wall in our constitution. But most of us act like it is a complete wall. Our monarch has to be Christian. And it's so outdated to have a ruler that's not elected by the people.
Perfectly said!!
More lies and gaslighting. They have mastercrafted it.
sick! so called "christians" voting for a cruel and demented serial rapist, supporting the EXACT antichrist their OWN Bible predicts.
their Satan is laughing as they all go to hell.
it would be amusing if normal l folks were not at risk from these sickos.
They don't care about abortion. If they did, they would be the biggest cheerleaders in the country for sex education in schools and stop pushing the impossible goal of abstinence as the only option. They would advocate for free and easily accessible birth control. They wouldn't work so hard to forgive the men, usually church leaders, who have sexually assaulted young women because forcing women to have babies after being violated makes their cause especially repugnant. In short, they would try and prevent unwanted pregnancy every way they could by facing up to the fact that people are sexual beings instead of forcing every woman who has "sinned" to bear the consequences of an encounter with a MAN, whose role in baby is generally ignored by these idiots.
GAWD MADE SEX FEEL GOOD AND FUN. Gawd then made fun a mortal sin.
For women. Not for men.
Umm... they didn't directly call for the death of women for having sex with their husbands, just anybody else. Though she did have to wait until after the wedding. What he was doing before the wedding never really seemed to be a concern.
I was always taught that the women still were not supposed to enjoy sex, even with their husbands (it was their "duty"). If they did, it meant they were slutty, lustful, wicked temptresses who would either endanger their spouse's "holiness" by corrupting him, a la that Loose Woman in Proverbs 5: 3-22, or they would cheat on him because of their unbridled lust. So sex-as-fun is still forbidden for women. Keeeeee-hrist, I used to believe some fucked-up shit, even when I could see how one-sided it was. It still amazes me.
In the show 𝘙𝘢𝘮𝘺, there was a scene in one episode where the sister and her friends lament over the fact that Muslim women are expected to be virgins on their wedding night, and the men aren't.
Funny when only one of Muhammad's wives was a virgin. Until Aisha he only wedded divorced or widowed women.
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Way oh-way-oh, way oh-way-oh
Vote like an Atheist
Lol, I was thinking about how to work that song in. Many thanks
"I moved on him like a bitch
I just started voting
I don't even wait, just vote
And when you're registered, they let you do it"
Turning tRumps disgusting locker room talk into a powerful citizens message. Not sure who came up with this, but it's pretty gold.
I'm sending good vibes to Florida that Amendment 4 passes.
I voted for it and Amendment 3.
Is Amendment 3 a method to get rid of corrupt officials ?
Sadly no. It would make recreational use of marijuana legal.
Too bad pot messes with blood thinners.
Is that right? Crap! We're finally going to make weed legal and I can't partake. Where's my goddamn time machine?
THC CBD and blood thinners are processed th same way so one csn increase the effectiveness of the other.
https://www.hellomd.com/questions-and-answers/can-i-do-cannabis-if-i-m-taking-eliquis-a-blood-thinner/
If it passes, I recommend starting a GoFundMe to send a lifetime supply of weed to Mar-a-Lago. I can't think of anyone who could possibly need to mellow the fuck out more than...
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...the poor staff who have to put up with Trump on a daily basis. What, you thought I was gonna say to give it to the man himself? Fuck that. Let the evil bastard stew in his rage until he gives himself an aneurysm.
Let him beat against the walls of his padded cell.
I need some weed this past several months to reduce my high (no pun intented) anxiety from this election. I'm a mess. I thought about driving from TN to MO to buy (legal there)........but didn't.
That's "...and Amendment 3, man.".
Yeah, 2 was bullshit they are trying to get sick rich fucks to be able to come hunting here. Anything pushed by the reps is automatically something we don't want.
No on one and two.
Knocking wood wherever I can find it! 😁
The once mighty oak has become a weeping willow. 😭
"And you don’t want to be an atheist, do you?!"
I don't know, how is the vision/dental plan?
You can see a lot clearer than hypocritical bastards like the governor and lieutenant governor of Florida.
So can he
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Vision plans are basically eyewear on installment and only if you use it *every* year.
We tend to have fewer visions.
Possibly more dentals, I dunno.
I have voted like an atheist since I could vote. It’s not always about me and my needs but what’s most helpful for the community and country. No gods have ever entered the picture, not even a hint of WWJD. None can run for office so why would I take their word through their false prophets under advisement.
"WWJD" is, however, a relevant response here, since according to the NT he hung out with prostitutes and other social outcasts. Hmmm...how would they vote on contraception and women's health issues?
They wouldn't have a say, it was traditionally "women's matters". Taken care of by the midwife.
Oh, look, Florida's Lt. Governor 𝘪𝘴 just as much of a shithead as her jackboot(lift)ed jackass of a boss! I was 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 wondering about that.
I hope those fascist fucks get exactly the democratic drubbing they deserve, this time around.
Joan, you know that good little fascist women must parrot their owner propaganda.
That's not something I want to know 🫣
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In all seriousness, I suspect there's more than a little of that going around the States lately. I say that because I'm going through it, too. This whole business has me more than a little rattled, yet equally determined to vote and do whatever else I can to keep Trump out of the White House and preferably IN PRISON!!!
Okay, Jennette, how about this: Are you more concerned about turning your back on a deity whose existence is at best questionable and at worst utterly undemonstrable ... OR do you think you should be MORE concerned about the needs of women whose untoward pregnancies (and there have been a LOT of them lately!) threaten their lives???
𝗪𝗛𝗜𝗖𝗛 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗧, 𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗬???
She is more concerned about turning her back on a fiction, because it has never been about preserving life. They don't care how many pregnant corpses they have to step over as long as they can maintain the iron grip of control.
Besides, the leopards won't eat 𝘩𝘦𝘳 face.
Exactly. They are perfectly fine with us dying. We are collateral damage, totally acceptable to them. It tracks given they are part of the death cult......just look at communion rituals: drinking the blood of christ and eating the body of christ. If a pagan did this with wine & wafers in the woods worshipping sun goddes, they'd call her a devil worshipper. The dead miscarried fetus and mother are cult objects to these zealots.
If she can’t bring a living baby into this world, then she deserves to suffer horribly and die.
“If women become tired, or even die, it does not matter. Let them die in childbirth. That’s what they are there for" ~ Martin Luther
All the christo-fascists subscribe to this.
They want us as property again.
DM's grandmother suffered horribly by dying peacefully in her sleep at home in her mid 80's. Does that count ?
Thank you! That is the most accurate vernacular! If only the press (other than Jennifer Rubin) would catch on!
"These women should have keep their legs closed".
Forced birthers are not ready to publicly recognise there is a significant number of married, or in a stable relationship, women who need or want an abortion.
They are fully aware of that fact. However, to publicly acknowledge it means admitting that it's not about "saving babies", but it is about control.
My mom had at least one ... BEFORE Roe v Wade was ruled on.
I am one of those who would have died if their maniac and evil rules was in place i Norway 35 ya.
I would have been arrested for my miscarriage if it had happened today. Mostly because I flushed it. But, in just a few months it will likely because I had to have done something wrong to cause the miscarriage, even though I did not.
They are crazy and evil.
Ab-so-fucking-lutely!
They are aware. Plenty of abortion clinic nurses, doctors, escorts have specifically talked about women coming off the anti-abortion protest lines to get abortions. Many of the protesters at these clinics are paid to protest all day.....it's their full time job, the money to pay them comes from religious and conservative organizations.
Even when the anti-abortion protesters who really are anti-abortion get an abortion, they think THEY are different and SPECIAL......not like them other women that get abortions.....no no......they are sluts. The Baptist gal getting an abortion really needs one..... her situation is so special, so unique, there's no one else like her in the world....
Can confirm, the clinic I volunteered at a protester who dressed up as a nurse gave us an apology note one day.
Toxic Purity Culture. Elizabeth Smart talks about this, that's why she didn't run away when she had chances.....religion taught her that she was now damaged, used gum is what she says. But of course she's still a Mormon and married to a Mormon.
My great grandmother and some of her daughters did, but they didn't have really the choice since any mention of birth control was strictly forbidden between 1920 and 1967. My GGM first child was born in 1928.
1000 thanks to Mme Marie-Andrée Lagroua Weill-Hallé, Mr Neuwirth and others who fought for this fundamental right
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuwirth_Law
Yes because they are soo much fun! /s Such fucking gullible idiots.
The minute someone uses that lame, old, tired line I know to point out their lie and disengage.