Maybe Rev. Sanders should take a look at her state's rankings (44th Overall and 47th in Healthcare) and ask her Jesus why Arkansass is doing so poorly in those areas.
Huckabee-Sanders got elected on name recognition and precious little else. By all appearances she has lived in the fundamentalist bubble from birth. A few things worth pointing out. There is no definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed. No one knows who wrote the gospels, and there are no original copies of them. Although things are attributed to Jesus no one has any idea what he actually said, because he didn't write anything down. We know a lot about the Romans because they DID write things down. The Romans were pretty good map-makers by the standards of their age, and the town of Bethlehem doesn't appear on any of them. There is no record of the Romans ever having conducted a census that required people to return to their place of birth, because what would be the point. When I see the kind of condescending smugness coming from Huckabee-Sanders I'm left with little doubt as to how the world got this screwed up.
Egypt did it, but only with people who worked in another part of the country that the one they were registered for taxes : sailors, merchants... And with the Nile, it was easy to cross the country in a few days, which wasn't possible in the Roman empire.
It's also fairly difficult to order a bunch of babies to be massacred when you kicked the bucket *two fuckin' years* before the Quirinal census - that never would have ordered Joseph to return to his ancestral stomping grounds anyway.
Whoever wrote Matthew and Luke couldn't math for shit.
Why is her letter written as though Arkansas had never actually celebrated Christmas until she decided to WHEREAS all over the place? Did she single-handedly invent Christmas? What the hell is that all about?
Gov. Sanders ought to persuade her father, who art in Israel, to make this same declaration there in occupied Bethlehem, for all the Jews there in the so called “holy land” to understand why American Christians ( not all, mind you ) are so anxious for Jesus to come back and deputize them.
I have tomorrow and Thursday off but I work Friday. I’m sure she’s giving them Friday off so they can have a long weekend rather than having to go back one day then have a weekend. Not that I actually attribute any kindness to her specifically, just some pragmatic thinking.
I wish I had Friday off too, I would go visit my mom, but I didn’t put in for it early enough and I was beat to the punch by three other people. So, since part of my job is to cover for those who are out of office, I will be doing three other people’s jobs that day, and they all have very different jobs. I expect it to be very slow, orders-wise, and I won’t be doing invoicing, so I won’t actually be too busy. Still would have been nice to spend Christmas with my dying mother. But with the play and other activities, I wasn’t able to manage my time all that well this month.
And just because I have a warped sense of humor, I hereby declare boxing day to celebrate national treasures, i.e., Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Ray Leonard, Joe Lewis and all of those guys. 🥊
I honestly don't know if Sarah Huckabee Sanders is unaware of the State / Church violations she is committing, or if she's simply clueless. Her response to the FFRF suggests a bit of both, but this can't be the first time she's run afoul of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
Sadly, I suspect that more money has to be wasted in court to demonstrate her error to her in no uncertain terms, before she'll get the hint.
Churchlings like her are purposely obtuse. You can "teach them" lessons but they're unteacheable. No matter how many financial penalties a court may impose they won't learn. BECAUSE it's someone else's money they use to pay the court penalties. Churche$ use the congregation's & congregant's.money. Hucksterby uses state funds. When courts personally put the penalties onto the obtuse churchling individual itself, then perhaps maybe possibly they might learn. Maybe.
This is why I will insist that offenders like Huckabee need to be hit PERSONALLY, in their own wallets. Do that and all manner of State / Church offenses would likely all but vanish.
She doesn't give a holy flying fornication about separation of church and state. After all, she has the "King of Kings" as well as (probably) the Roberts Christian Nationalist Supreme Court on her side.
“The @FFRF took issue with me closing state offices to celebrate Christmas…”
No, the FFRF didn’t take issue with you for closing state offices for the holiday. The FFRF took issue with you proclaiming the completely religious and highly unlikely story pulled directly from Christianity is the truth. They said as much. No one gives a flying fart about the state employees having a couple days off. They’re pointing out the unconstitutional language you used to announce the time off. They’re telling you that you crossed a line and better get back over to the correct side of it.
One of Trump’s lackeys — it might have been Bessent — “explained” Trump’s math. You see, if you lower the price by 80%, you would have to increase the price by 500% to get it back to the price that it was before. Trump is just approaching the math from the other side.
One of the independent media commenters observed that Trump hasn’t lowered any pharmaceutical prices by 80% so the backwards math is purely hypothetical.
When you have bone spurs the pain can keep you from learning math. In any case, if prices can be increased by 500%, certainly a President as smart as Trump can reduce them by 500%. A few threats, a bomb or two, a heavy dose of tariffs and BINGO, 600% reduction. America is Great Again.
She doesn't believe church/State separation exists. She 100% KNOWS it exists and tailors her every action to its destruction. This is not ignorance, it is arrogance.
"she told them that they should use that time with their families “giving thanks for Christ’s birth."
An Atheist, an ex-Muslim and a Pagan have a feast and exchange presents on December 24th*. No religion involved. Winter solstice celebrations, and many other things, predate christianity.
"and three wise men from the East. It presaged his ministry, which was not focused on the wealthy or powerful but rather on the poor, powerless, and meek"
If the wise men existed, they would have been high priests/astrologists, add the gifts of gold, myrrh and incense, and several days or weeks of travel, that doesn't exactly sounds like poor and powerless.
* Or any convenient date. Once, we celebrated it in early January because my sister was sick.
“ An Atheist, an ex-Muslim and a Pagan have a feast and exchange presents on December 24th”
I thought this was the beginning of a joke. Now I’m trying to think how to end it.
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…
The ex-Muslim said, “These ribs! I had no idea what I’d been missing all those years.” The Pagan said, “As long as they aren’t the ribs of the sacred Yule Goat.” Those two looked at the atheist. The atheist sighed in exasperation and said, “Jesus Christ!” And the ex-Muslim and the Pagan said, “No problem” and helped themselves to seconds.
With all 𝘥𝘶𝘦 respect, Madam Guv'nur... I don't believe that the spirit of humility has ever crossed paths with you. In fact, I rather suspect that you wouldn't even recognize humility if you caught an entire, fresh-baked humble pie squarely in the face- and I doubt you'd have any less trouble recognizing your own savior if he showed up outside the 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 you live in at everyone else's expense. You'd probably call ICE on him from behind that podium you splurged your constituents' tax dollars on, or have one of your bodyguards blow him out of his sandals for having the temerity to rap his fish-blessing knuckles on the wrong Pharisee's door.
I was raised Catholic. We were taught that somehow (I still can't really explain how) Jesus and his dad are the same guy. He was upset at people breaking his rules and he couldn't just forgive us for breaking his rules, so he became a physical being like us so that we could kill him, which then allowed him to forgive us for breaking his rules.
“… you missed the point of my proclamation. It was not to browbeat readers with Christian doctrine, but rather to point to the humility of Christ’s birth and to the amazing fact that the King of Kings was born not in a palace or temple, but in a humble manger attended only by poor shepherds. It is in that spirit of humility that I am reminded that Christ did not dine with wise Pharisees or rich men but rather with fishermen and outcasts.
Though you may enter this season with bitterness, know that Christ is with you, that He loves you, and that He died for your sins just the same as He did for mine and everyone else’s.”
Humble? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Sure, your proclamation just screams “humble”. With all that “his glory will return” and shit. And the whole, ‘he came not for the rich but for the poors’ baloney. He came so the rich had more leverage over the poor and have a tool to abuse them. That’s what Christianity is, and that’s exactly how you and your orange messiah, the sherbet pervert, the dropsy dotard, are using it for. You aren’t humble, you have no clue what poor people are dealing with, you’ve never gone without, struggled for survival. Sit all the way down, Sarah, you are wrong and spiteful about it.
And she continues to fail to see that she doesn't have the right to preach from the governor's podium. If she wanted to give that speech in her home church, it would be one thing, and FFRF wouldn't have said boo. She just HAD to violate State / Church separation with that proclamation, mostly because JEEEZUS.
And I doubt she'll stop until she has to pay a PERSONAL price (financial or otherwise) for her actions.
Maybe Rev. Sanders should take a look at her state's rankings (44th Overall and 47th in Healthcare) and ask her Jesus why Arkansass is doing so poorly in those areas.
Can't be bothered. She's too busy being a preacher to be a governor.
Huckabee-Sanders would likely go out of her tiny little mind at the mere suggestion a religious holiday other than her own be honored by government.
What’s it take to propose an Arkansas amendment that proclaims Hanukkah is the official state holiday instead of Christmas? Or Kwanzaa?
A miracl...ah, shit.
Yep
" Her Jesus"? Jesus is the King of the Universe. He's not just the Savior of a woman who you have never met, but clearly dispise. May God bless you.
My one and only response to you:
Do you have any idea where you are?
Huckabee-Sanders got elected on name recognition and precious little else. By all appearances she has lived in the fundamentalist bubble from birth. A few things worth pointing out. There is no definitive evidence Jesus ever even existed. No one knows who wrote the gospels, and there are no original copies of them. Although things are attributed to Jesus no one has any idea what he actually said, because he didn't write anything down. We know a lot about the Romans because they DID write things down. The Romans were pretty good map-makers by the standards of their age, and the town of Bethlehem doesn't appear on any of them. There is no record of the Romans ever having conducted a census that required people to return to their place of birth, because what would be the point. When I see the kind of condescending smugness coming from Huckabee-Sanders I'm left with little doubt as to how the world got this screwed up.
Egypt did it, but only with people who worked in another part of the country that the one they were registered for taxes : sailors, merchants... And with the Nile, it was easy to cross the country in a few days, which wasn't possible in the Roman empire.
How could you make the baby jesus cry, and so close to his birthday with your facts and logic?
However, never fear there are many ways to calm a crying baby and to find redemption.
https://ibb.co/nqPRjCBT
I was gonna say licking lead-based paint off the crib slats, because it turned out so well for him.
Details, details! 😝
It's also fairly difficult to order a bunch of babies to be massacred when you kicked the bucket *two fuckin' years* before the Quirinal census - that never would have ordered Joseph to return to his ancestral stomping grounds anyway.
Whoever wrote Matthew and Luke couldn't math for shit.
Why is her letter written as though Arkansas had never actually celebrated Christmas until she decided to WHEREAS all over the place? Did she single-handedly invent Christmas? What the hell is that all about?
It's two - Two - TWO idiocies in one! Virtue-signaling and territory-marking!
Territory marking! 💩
It DOES seem as though she needs to pee on EVERYTHING, don't it?
Scat Hucksterbee-Sanders does have a nice ring to it.
Gov. Sanders ought to persuade her father, who art in Israel, to make this same declaration there in occupied Bethlehem, for all the Jews there in the so called “holy land” to understand why American Christians ( not all, mind you ) are so anxious for Jesus to come back and deputize them.
Self promotion.
Shameless self-promotion, at that she thinks she can be President one day by copying trumpolini.
She's copying her orange messiah.
December 26th? Why, I do believe that's Boxing Day. The day AFTER xmas. A day where the needy receive gifts.
Perhaps Sanders should be part of the spirit THAT day and give give give to her state.
She gives the poor the finger every chance she gets.
I have tomorrow and Thursday off but I work Friday. I’m sure she’s giving them Friday off so they can have a long weekend rather than having to go back one day then have a weekend. Not that I actually attribute any kindness to her specifically, just some pragmatic thinking.
I wish I had Friday off too, I would go visit my mom, but I didn’t put in for it early enough and I was beat to the punch by three other people. So, since part of my job is to cover for those who are out of office, I will be doing three other people’s jobs that day, and they all have very different jobs. I expect it to be very slow, orders-wise, and I won’t be doing invoicing, so I won’t actually be too busy. Still would have been nice to spend Christmas with my dying mother. But with the play and other activities, I wasn’t able to manage my time all that well this month.
Boxing Day - when the peasants trade places with the Lords.
And just because I have a warped sense of humor, I hereby declare boxing day to celebrate national treasures, i.e., Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Ray Leonard, Joe Lewis and all of those guys. 🥊
I honestly don't know if Sarah Huckabee Sanders is unaware of the State / Church violations she is committing, or if she's simply clueless. Her response to the FFRF suggests a bit of both, but this can't be the first time she's run afoul of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
Sadly, I suspect that more money has to be wasted in court to demonstrate her error to her in no uncertain terms, before she'll get the hint.
Churchlings like her are purposely obtuse. You can "teach them" lessons but they're unteacheable. No matter how many financial penalties a court may impose they won't learn. BECAUSE it's someone else's money they use to pay the court penalties. Churche$ use the congregation's & congregant's.money. Hucksterby uses state funds. When courts personally put the penalties onto the obtuse churchling individual itself, then perhaps maybe possibly they might learn. Maybe.
This is why I will insist that offenders like Huckabee need to be hit PERSONALLY, in their own wallets. Do that and all manner of State / Church offenses would likely all but vanish.
BINGO!!!
Wishful thinking, their billionaire friends would provide the indulgence$.
She is not governor for the well being of her constituents. Remember the overpriced lectern she waste taxpayers dollars on just to flatter her ego.
She learned that from Donny.
She doesn't give a holy flying fornication about separation of church and state. After all, she has the "King of Kings" as well as (probably) the Roberts Christian Nationalist Supreme Court on her side.
People like her never get those hints…
She does know and doesn't care.
“The @FFRF took issue with me closing state offices to celebrate Christmas…”
No, the FFRF didn’t take issue with you for closing state offices for the holiday. The FFRF took issue with you proclaiming the completely religious and highly unlikely story pulled directly from Christianity is the truth. They said as much. No one gives a flying fart about the state employees having a couple days off. They’re pointing out the unconstitutional language you used to announce the time off. They’re telling you that you crossed a line and better get back over to the correct side of it.
Lying liars goin' lie.
https://i.imgflip.com/8nohsh.jpg
It's a holy sacrament.
The Huckster’s performance art is worthy of a negative 5 star rating. Time to throw Rotten Tomatoes at her. Aim for the eye
Anyone wanna join me in figuring out what it would take to make all the toilets in the governor's mansion back up?
I’ve reduced my expectations that Sanders will ever do the right thing by 300, 400, 500, and even 600 percent.
It went up to 1400% yesterday!
I missed that one.
One of Trump’s lackeys — it might have been Bessent — “explained” Trump’s math. You see, if you lower the price by 80%, you would have to increase the price by 500% to get it back to the price that it was before. Trump is just approaching the math from the other side.
Alternative math!!
Yes it was Lutnick doing that backwards math!
You misspelled "Nutlick".
One of the independent media commenters observed that Trump hasn’t lowered any pharmaceutical prices by 80% so the backwards math is purely hypothetical.
Thank you for correcting my error. I didn’t have a lot of confidence about it being Bessent but couldn’t think of Lutnick’s name.
The same percentage Donald Trump has promised to lower prescription drug costs. It's a miracle!
When you have bone spurs the pain can keep you from learning math. In any case, if prices can be increased by 500%, certainly a President as smart as Trump can reduce them by 500%. A few threats, a bomb or two, a heavy dose of tariffs and BINGO, 600% reduction. America is Great Again.
The Trumps try to do math. 🤣
https://youtu.be/DHFB40WOMOo
It is 71 degrees in the MidSouth. I am about to go out in public in Arkansas in my "Axial Tilt -It's the Reason for the Season" T-shirt.
Wear Kevlar. Them Christians lookin for sumtin to shoot on theys day off.
If it gives you any solstice, it's 38F (3.3C) here in Iowa.
Not even the hottest part of the day and it's 72F here in SATX.
For your sake, I hope SA is San Antonio and not San Angelo....Goat Roper Capitol of the World.
“He’s got a gun rack and a “goat ropers need love too” sticker”
Yes. San Antonio.
78°/26° with a feels like of 87°/31° at 1:21 pm EST.
She doesn't believe church/State separation exists. She 100% KNOWS it exists and tailors her every action to its destruction. This is not ignorance, it is arrogance.
Entirely too likely.
Absolutely agree. I almost used “arrogance” in one of my comments. (So naturally I think you are spot on).
"she told them that they should use that time with their families “giving thanks for Christ’s birth."
An Atheist, an ex-Muslim and a Pagan have a feast and exchange presents on December 24th*. No religion involved. Winter solstice celebrations, and many other things, predate christianity.
"and three wise men from the East. It presaged his ministry, which was not focused on the wealthy or powerful but rather on the poor, powerless, and meek"
If the wise men existed, they would have been high priests/astrologists, add the gifts of gold, myrrh and incense, and several days or weeks of travel, that doesn't exactly sounds like poor and powerless.
* Or any convenient date. Once, we celebrated it in early January because my sister was sick.
“ An Atheist, an ex-Muslim and a Pagan have a feast and exchange presents on December 24th”
I thought this was the beginning of a joke. Now I’m trying to think how to end it.
…
…
…
The ex-Muslim said, “These ribs! I had no idea what I’d been missing all those years.” The Pagan said, “As long as they aren’t the ribs of the sacred Yule Goat.” Those two looked at the atheist. The atheist sighed in exasperation and said, “Jesus Christ!” And the ex-Muslim and the Pagan said, “No problem” and helped themselves to seconds.
Ben, we walked into a bar a couple of times 😁
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.3Ync1rlk4-puq0jLi_CUZAAAAA?o=7&cb=ucfimg2&rm=3&ucfimg=1&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain&o=7&rm=3
"𝘐𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘳𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘐 𝘢𝘮 𝘳𝘦𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘊𝘩𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘗𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘧𝘪𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘦𝘯 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘴."
With all 𝘥𝘶𝘦 respect, Madam Guv'nur... I don't believe that the spirit of humility has ever crossed paths with you. In fact, I rather suspect that you wouldn't even recognize humility if you caught an entire, fresh-baked humble pie squarely in the face- and I doubt you'd have any less trouble recognizing your own savior if he showed up outside the 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 you live in at everyone else's expense. You'd probably call ICE on him from behind that podium you splurged your constituents' tax dollars on, or have one of your bodyguards blow him out of his sandals for having the temerity to rap his fish-blessing knuckles on the wrong Pharisee's door.
"Jesus was the Messiah and became a teacher and leader, and He would be crucified, suffer for the sins of all mankind"
Can someone explain to me exactly how that "suffer for the sins of all mankind" thing works?
I was raised Catholic. We were taught that somehow (I still can't really explain how) Jesus and his dad are the same guy. He was upset at people breaking his rules and he couldn't just forgive us for breaking his rules, so he became a physical being like us so that we could kill him, which then allowed him to forgive us for breaking his rules.
Wait, what...?
Vampire God. Must have blood.
Former catholic here too (by birth, not by choice). It didn't make sense when I was young, and still doesn't make sense now.
So when someone said "Jesus motherfucking Christ" they were being literal, right?
Bad hangover for a weekend then whisked off to a spa.
It would be amusing if some other Christians took issue with governor’s theology in the proclamation and a No True Christian battle ensued.
“… you missed the point of my proclamation. It was not to browbeat readers with Christian doctrine, but rather to point to the humility of Christ’s birth and to the amazing fact that the King of Kings was born not in a palace or temple, but in a humble manger attended only by poor shepherds. It is in that spirit of humility that I am reminded that Christ did not dine with wise Pharisees or rich men but rather with fishermen and outcasts.
Though you may enter this season with bitterness, know that Christ is with you, that He loves you, and that He died for your sins just the same as He did for mine and everyone else’s.”
Humble? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Sure, your proclamation just screams “humble”. With all that “his glory will return” and shit. And the whole, ‘he came not for the rich but for the poors’ baloney. He came so the rich had more leverage over the poor and have a tool to abuse them. That’s what Christianity is, and that’s exactly how you and your orange messiah, the sherbet pervert, the dropsy dotard, are using it for. You aren’t humble, you have no clue what poor people are dealing with, you’ve never gone without, struggled for survival. Sit all the way down, Sarah, you are wrong and spiteful about it.
And she continues to fail to see that she doesn't have the right to preach from the governor's podium. If she wanted to give that speech in her home church, it would be one thing, and FFRF wouldn't have said boo. She just HAD to violate State / Church separation with that proclamation, mostly because JEEEZUS.
And I doubt she'll stop until she has to pay a PERSONAL price (financial or otherwise) for her actions.
Such passion for a season and festivities stolen from Pagans.
Sanders is something of the equivalent of Europeans planting their flag in the soil of the "New World" and proclaiming it theirs by divine right.
People that care about the poor don't cut programs for them and then buy themselves a $19,000 lectern to deliver propaganda from.
This was a great Halloween costume that year.
https://ibb.co/Nd9SQGXL