Godless moral standards? That's rich. There is no horror that cannot be, and has not been, justified in the name of religion. As long as a significant number of people continue delegating an important part their thinking to the clergy, reason is fighting an uphill battle. I read recently that the United States experiences a net loss of about thirty-five hundred churches a year. I hope this encouraging trend not only continues, but accelerates.
A encouraging sign for sure. I live in the DFW metroplex and I had to look up where this guy's church is. I had never really noticed it, but I have driven past it many times.
I had the opportunity to go to a Catholic church in West Los Angeles 2 years ago, I forget why only it had something to do with my nephew, and it was almost empty . I thought it was because we were there only for whatever it was we were there for, but the priest did a whole sermon and I realized it was intended to be the Sunday speech. Hopefully it is out of business now.
The religious right has deluded themselves into believing that if they can just get control, the American people will passively submit to their rule. The churches will be filled, and everyone will live happily ever after.
That's what the Christofascists want. Project 2025 will ban porn. That means if a girl is in a bathing suit she could be arrested. All art, movies, books, clubs any and all will be illegal. Except if the white preaching guys get caught. Then we all know it's Satan's fault. 🤚🤚🤚
‘Around him, ladies fanned themselves in the heat, dressed in their Sunday finest. At the front of the church, the minister began. He was an older gentleman, narrow and angular as the church itself. Somewhere up ahead, among the sea of blue hair and balding pates sat his cousin Jason—along with Jason’s wife, her grandparents, and other assorted relation, both close and distant, all here for the special occasion.
Mitch came from Steel people, north counties, Hammond and East Chicago. But these were rural people down here. Farm people. His cousin’s wife’s side. In Indiana, an hour south might have been another world.
His daughter was good for the first minutes of the minister’s sermon. Then it began: she slid down his knee to the floor…..’ Ted Kosmatka
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Yes, that seems to be exactly what Christians like Dames are doing.
Well... there's the wife. The only "sin" she explicitly committed was turning her head in the wrong direction while the family was beating feet out of town.
But of course, Yaweh in his pettiness considered that the worst sin of all.
Well their mother was dead, no doubt by his hand, I think they mistranslate: pit of lime (to dissolve the body) and wrote pillar of salt which makes no sense whatsoever. So they couldn't have been anyone but his daughters, that he kept isolated in a cave for years, pretending civilization was gone.
"Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
This is how little the Jewish people valued their women. (I'm sure it's changed now, and they denounce this passage as the hideously misogynistic abomination it is...)
That was one of the stories that really bothered me, once I understood the biblical meaning of "know." Of course, I wasn't allowed to ask questions, so I mostly just forgot about it, and waited for that magical time when I could leave home and not be forced to go to church anymore.
Heard the mob declined and became so aroused at the possibility of bunga-bunga with angels that they wanked until they were blind. In the end his daughters had to get their Dad drunk to get laid by him in a dark cave. Lot got the happy ending he deserved.
Churches aren't required to open their books the way other charities are. Of those that do, the highest amount of money that ever goes toward doing charitable work I've found is 6%. The few others I found were between 2-4%.
The saying is "English doesn't “borrow” from other languages: it follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar and valuable vocabulary"
Article's been up for a couple of hours before I got to it and everything I wanted to touch on has already been touched on, so I'll just mention this:
Given the fact that the bible was used to justify the institution of slavery in the antebellum South, I'm still gobsmacked that there are ANY black Christians, let alone pastors.
Sadly, it's the same story for black Christians as it is for white Christians: INDOCTRINATION. Get the kids while they're young, drill heaven and hell into their heads until they're scared shitless of the big daddy in the sky, then keep reinforcing that on at least a weekly basis. Yeah, at least some of them see their way through the bullshit.
You're being overly generous here. This is the cheapest kind of Christian hypocrisy. It has something to do with sex; the sex they're having, the sex they're not having, the sex other people are having, the sex other people are having but they're not having sex they're thinking about or not thinking about. Like the quality of the sin, it's very low quality hypocrisy.
Eh, the market would've been saturated already. Just because it can't be released legally for a profit doesn't mean people haven't been making free fanwork porn under fair use for decades.
Don't get me wrong. I have no doubt there is Mickey porn out there despite it not capturing the media's attention. With the boundless fanfic, there's almost no way there can't be.
Mickey Mouse is in court suing Minnie Mouse for divorce. The judge says, "Mr. Mouse, it says here that you are divorcing your wife on the grounds that she is insane?"
Mickey replies, "No, your honor."
The judge says, "I don't understand."
Mickey says, "I didn't claim she was insane. I said she was f***ing Goofy."
How absurd is it that billions of modern-day people have come to adopt the sexual mores of a little Bronze Age tribe of goat-herders in the Middle Eastern desert....
This is tame compared to what other preacher men do. Even the hypocrisy is mild.
Oh, and ordaining gay men has a long and storied history throughout Christianity, from day one. Hell, you can’t prove Jesus and his disciples weren’t gay, the language surrounding much of the gospels alludes to their proclivities. But hey, don’t look at me, I’m just a godless heathen here eating babies.
It makes social sense. If having sex would normally get you murdered, and you've got this employment opportunity which most people don't want because it comes with a "don't have sex" rider, then maybe that's a good fit. And then once that starts to become a pattern, the job has the extra appeal of being the sort of job that lets you meet other gay men. I mean, the whole murder thing is horrifying, but it wouldn't be the first time humans make practical choices in the face of horrific discrimination.
"Customs and Border Protection records revealed that the justice and his wife, Virginia Thomas, took a round trip between Hawaii and New Zealand in November 2010 on Mr. Crow’s private jet, according to the letter."
I can't believe we let this fuck into the country. I shall send a stiff note to my MP.
Yah well. Dr Tarren L. Dames is so preaching the word by his actions isn't he. It's more than okay to be Queer just don't preach about how others "spit in God's face" when by his own actions he's doing the exact same thing. I really hope church is going out of business. Church isn't about God or Gods inclusive love anymore anyway. (Note -- he solicited a female undercover officer not a male officer but frequenting prostitutes is "spitting in God's face" according to him.)
On an episode of The Barney Miller Show (dating myself rather badly), Lt. Dietrich (if I remember correctly) refers to begging as the world’s oldest profession. Someone else says, “I thought it was prostitution.” Dietrich replies in his usual deadpan way, “Someone had to ask for it.”
I think church was more at one time love the sinner / forgive the sin but don't continue in the sin once upon a time. Now it's hate everybody who is in any way "different from the norm" and judge everybody else-- and that is NOT what Jesus preached. So if Church can't get back to the basics of love your neighbor as yourself then all those churches must be turned into affordable housing and that would be the best thing Church ever did.
You're right. More like love the person first, don't love the behavior. My behavior and your behavior doesn't make us who we are as people they are a component of who we are not the whole being of who we are.
It wasn't what Jesus preached, but it is preached in other parts of the bible. (Homosexuality, for instance, is denounced as a capital crime in Leviticus 18:22)
The fact that such hateful views were the product, not of a "god", but of small-minded Jewish priests who *pretended* to speak for a deity, is of course lost on the brainwashed billions who believe this book is "magical".
Anne McCaffrey had an AI call it the "Greatest book Mankind has ever written" I like a lot of her work, but that line was ridiculous. (I also have a problem with her romanticizing older men falling in love with young girls)
Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for allowing transgender people to exist, they were destroyed for being inhospitable to foreigners. Something the right (this church, being focused on this issue, is definitely part of the right) is infamous for. Saw blade buoys, razor wire beaches and all the kidnapping children at the border and all.
Gah! You’d think preachers would know their own bibles, but it doesn’t fit their agenda so we’re fighting this misinformation at a disadvantage.
First if all, sex isn't going away. Make it legal. Unionize the workers, protections for workers who have been trafficked, health-care, mental health-care for all, and very clear laws.
The Jerry Falwells will keep falling. They're human, not Apostles. They believe their own self serving egotistical bullshit. I thought they had God on speed dial. They must have missed the fuck around and find out call. Christofascists and their life long toxic obsessions with sex. 🫣
Maine actually legalized the sale of it, but not the buying. Maine will expunge sex workers criminal record so they can get out of the trade for a mainstream job.
Yet another in a series of transphobic pastors who can't deal with the fact that sex and gender aren't necessarily congruent. Yet another jerk who wants simple answers to complex questions, because his iron-age holy book supposedly speaks against such phenomena.
Yet another fool who wants to live in the 19th century while the rest of us enjoy the 21st.
I sincerely hope that Dames' actions have turned at least some of his former congregation off to Christianity and help to hasten the religion's demise.
I remember this argument from back in the 80's when one of our church leaders was caught in adultery: "Satan works the hardest on those who are the most devout Christians."
He had to resign, but people still felt sympathy for him. - "What a shame, he was so dedicated." The woman he adulterated with was treated like shit. She hung a round for a while and tried to ride it out, but none of her former friends wanted anything to do with her. She left the church and IIRC, eventually moved away to another town.
They should shun him, knowing that even if Christians aren't supposed to criticize one another that THEY'LL be forgive for cutting ties with this sinner.
Have you ever heard of the Joshua Generation? Google them. There are thousands of young Christian purists presently being groomed for government roles.
I first heard that phrase when the duggars' reality TV show was still a thing. Josh was supposed to be the Duggar Epitome of the "Joshua Generation" or something like that. Then somebody blew his holy cover.
That phasing also betrays their true level of "concern" for children: as things to have others' wills imposed on them, not as people with the right to choose their own path in life.
Godless moral standards? That's rich. There is no horror that cannot be, and has not been, justified in the name of religion. As long as a significant number of people continue delegating an important part their thinking to the clergy, reason is fighting an uphill battle. I read recently that the United States experiences a net loss of about thirty-five hundred churches a year. I hope this encouraging trend not only continues, but accelerates.
I went to Tallahassee Sunday morning and noted that no church along my 45 mile route had a parking lot which was even half full.
Fixed typos.
A encouraging sign for sure. I live in the DFW metroplex and I had to look up where this guy's church is. I had never really noticed it, but I have driven past it many times.
I had the opportunity to go to a Catholic church in West Los Angeles 2 years ago, I forget why only it had something to do with my nephew, and it was almost empty . I thought it was because we were there only for whatever it was we were there for, but the priest did a whole sermon and I realized it was intended to be the Sunday speech. Hopefully it is out of business now.
The religious right has deluded themselves into believing that if they can just get control, the American people will passively submit to their rule. The churches will be filled, and everyone will live happily ever after.
The stuff of nightmares.
That's what the Christofascists want. Project 2025 will ban porn. That means if a girl is in a bathing suit she could be arrested. All art, movies, books, clubs any and all will be illegal. Except if the white preaching guys get caught. Then we all know it's Satan's fault. 🤚🤚🤚
Certainly my, and many sane people's nightmares.
https://pseudopod.org/2013/02/22/pseudopod-322-cry-room/
‘Around him, ladies fanned themselves in the heat, dressed in their Sunday finest. At the front of the church, the minister began. He was an older gentleman, narrow and angular as the church itself. Somewhere up ahead, among the sea of blue hair and balding pates sat his cousin Jason—along with Jason’s wife, her grandparents, and other assorted relation, both close and distant, all here for the special occasion.
Mitch came from Steel people, north counties, Hammond and East Chicago. But these were rural people down here. Farm people. His cousin’s wife’s side. In Indiana, an hour south might have been another world.
His daughter was good for the first minutes of the minister’s sermon. Then it began: she slid down his knee to the floor…..’ Ted Kosmatka
Some encouraging news: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/04/business/church-development-reuse.html
Most of the extra renovating expense went toward the purchase of black lights and removal of all that was revealed.
And expand the Real Estate tax base.
𝑊𝑒'𝑟𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑛 𝑎 𝑝𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡'𝑠 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑆𝑜𝑑𝑜𝑚 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝐺𝑜𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑎ℎ. 𝑊𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑧𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑡!
Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Yes, that seems to be exactly what Christians like Dames are doing.
They worked really hard to redefine the Sin Of Sodom, just so they can keep committing it.
Even without the later verses explicitly laying out the sin of Sodom, the Genesis 19 account describes attempted rape, not homosexuality.
And the "righteous" Lot, instead of trying to prevent the rape, offered his daughters as a substitute.
He also claimed to be too drunk to realize he was fucking them himself. I don’t see why God thought to spare anyone from Sodom.
Well... there's the wife. The only "sin" she explicitly committed was turning her head in the wrong direction while the family was beating feet out of town.
But of course, Yaweh in his pettiness considered that the worst sin of all.
Didn’t seem to bother Lot. Didn’t even go back later to try ‘true-love’s kiss’.
His wife liked to look.
Nah, she told him to stop molesting her daughters, and pimping them out, and so he killed her.
Well their mother was dead, no doubt by his hand, I think they mistranslate: pit of lime (to dissolve the body) and wrote pillar of salt which makes no sense whatsoever. So they couldn't have been anyone but his daughters, that he kept isolated in a cave for years, pretending civilization was gone.
Diabolical.
"Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
This is how little the Jewish people valued their women. (I'm sure it's changed now, and they denounce this passage as the hideously misogynistic abomination it is...)
Sounds like a pimp spiel to me "take my daughters they are virgins" wink wink.
That was one of the stories that really bothered me, once I understood the biblical meaning of "know." Of course, I wasn't allowed to ask questions, so I mostly just forgot about it, and waited for that magical time when I could leave home and not be forced to go to church anymore.
Yeah, there is no excuse for that incestuous fucker to be called "holy"
Heard the mob declined and became so aroused at the possibility of bunga-bunga with angels that they wanked until they were blind. In the end his daughters had to get their Dad drunk to get laid by him in a dark cave. Lot got the happy ending he deserved.
That's some victim blaming there by the biblical author. If he was that drunk (and old) he wouldn't have been able to get it up.
Such was his lot.
Yes, to be raped and killed by an angry crowd. He was a fucking pimp, he'd obviously been boning his poor daughters.
It seems to me that back then, and even today, for some, the worst way to insult a man was to treat him like a woman.
Only three things are faster than light: gossip, bad news, and, in first place, the christian ever-shifting goalpost.
Sometimes all three are the same thing: "Say, did you hear the gossip? I'm afraid it's bad news: the Christian goal-posts have shifted again."
🎯😂
Wait... The city fell to God's Wrath because they were stingy and not generous to guests and the poor and needy?
Kinda sounds like a lot of christian churches these days. And certain bible-thumping political parties, too!
Churches aren't required to open their books the way other charities are. Of those that do, the highest amount of money that ever goes toward doing charitable work I've found is 6%. The few others I found were between 2-4%.
They think it's supposed to be used to "spread the gospel," not feed the hungry.
When they say "stingy", do they mean people were stinging each other? Like they had little stingers they were jabbing each other with?
Because if that's what they were doing, maybe they deserved to be destroyed...sadistic little bastards....
English, what a language! Four other languages in a trench coat!
😉
Perfect description!
Mmmhh, 4 only ? Français = Latin, Grec, proto-germanique, Celte, Arabe, Chinese (Xither = Cithare)... 😁
The saying is "English doesn't “borrow” from other languages: it follows them down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar and valuable vocabulary"
Looks like Nanny Ogg looking for another husband 🤔
And, SCOTUS says it is legal to drive the unhoused out of town.
Oh, and how many angels have been molested? I can do the Bible beat down any time. Try to keep up.
When’s the last time “thine eye offended <sic> thee?” Did you pluck it out? No? Then STFU
Article's been up for a couple of hours before I got to it and everything I wanted to touch on has already been touched on, so I'll just mention this:
Given the fact that the bible was used to justify the institution of slavery in the antebellum South, I'm still gobsmacked that there are ANY black Christians, let alone pastors.
Sadly, it's the same story for black Christians as it is for white Christians: INDOCTRINATION. Get the kids while they're young, drill heaven and hell into their heads until they're scared shitless of the big daddy in the sky, then keep reinforcing that on at least a weekly basis. Yeah, at least some of them see their way through the bullshit.
A lot of 'em don't.
There shouldn't be any black Christians.
There shouldn't be any female Christians.
There shouldn't be any gay Christians.
All these people are either hated in the bible, or demeaned/degraded because of the bible.
There shouldn't be any black/female/gay Republicans, either.
How such things exist is beyond me.
The Log Cabin Republicans in particular must be one of the most self-hating groups in existence...
Greed triumphs over reality.
Money and delusion.
And there should be absolutely no rational, thinking, skeptical Christians!
Hear, hear!
Let's see...who does that leave....🤔
Low-intelligence heterosexual white males.
Okay, that's acceptable: there should be dumb white men in Christianity. That tracks...
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
When your culture and heritage have been stripped from you and you only know one thing, the indoctrination becomes entrenched.
Sadly, they were raped spiritually as well.
Christian hypocrisy at its finest.
You're being overly generous here. This is the cheapest kind of Christian hypocrisy. It has something to do with sex; the sex they're having, the sex they're not having, the sex other people are having, the sex other people are having but they're not having sex they're thinking about or not thinking about. Like the quality of the sin, it's very low quality hypocrisy.
It seems like if sex isn't the driving factor in something, it's almost the next thing through the door.
So, it was a bit of a relief when Micky Mouse entered the public domain, the first major thing to be released was a horror game.
What about the porn featuring Mickey and Donald, because Donald doesn't wear pants ever? What about that/
"What about the porn featuring Mickey and Donald,"
Pence and Trump?
"because Donald doesn't wear pants ever?"
It is not comfortable to wear pants when they are always on fire.
"What about that/"
How do I get rid of this mental image?
Brain bleach works well. You can buy it by the gallon from Amazon
That image makes me want to drink bleach, because gouging my eyes out isn't enough. I'd be blind and that would be the last image stuck in my brain.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=brain+bleach
He needs flame proof diapers
I hear they are made of asbestos.
Bugs Bunny only wears gloves. Daffy’s completely naked.
Yet, Donald wraps a towel around his waist when he gets out of the bathtub. WTF?
Cold water.
A beach towel.
rofl
Touché
Eh, the market would've been saturated already. Just because it can't be released legally for a profit doesn't mean people haven't been making free fanwork porn under fair use for decades.
Don't get me wrong. I have no doubt there is Mickey porn out there despite it not capturing the media's attention. With the boundless fanfic, there's almost no way there can't be.
There exists Harry/Draco and Gibbs/Dinozzo porn. Of course there's Mikey/Goofy porn.
There's a joke...
Mickey Mouse is in court suing Minnie Mouse for divorce. The judge says, "Mr. Mouse, it says here that you are divorcing your wife on the grounds that she is insane?"
Mickey replies, "No, your honor."
The judge says, "I don't understand."
Mickey says, "I didn't claim she was insane. I said she was f***ing Goofy."
And Disney princesses doing each other, I am happy to report.
Rule 34.
lol
very true
Simpson, Gilligan's Island, Avengers et al. I came across an anime of the Hulk and Rogue.
I hope you wiped off the screen.
How absurd is it that billions of modern-day people have come to adopt the sexual mores of a little Bronze Age tribe of goat-herders in the Middle Eastern desert....
They supposedly read"the Goatherders Guide to the Galaxy."
Who’s surprised by this? Anyone? Anyone?
This is tame compared to what other preacher men do. Even the hypocrisy is mild.
Oh, and ordaining gay men has a long and storied history throughout Christianity, from day one. Hell, you can’t prove Jesus and his disciples weren’t gay, the language surrounding much of the gospels alludes to their proclivities. But hey, don’t look at me, I’m just a godless heathen here eating babies.
At which age are they more tender ? Not asking for a friend 😁
Anytime before they start walking, like veal.
We need to put out The Heathens' Guide to Cooking Babies.
Didn't Jonathan Swift already try telling everyone to eat children? It was a Modest Proposal by all accounts.
That was my introduction to satire, as a teen in my literature class.
It makes social sense. If having sex would normally get you murdered, and you've got this employment opportunity which most people don't want because it comes with a "don't have sex" rider, then maybe that's a good fit. And then once that starts to become a pattern, the job has the extra appeal of being the sort of job that lets you meet other gay men. I mean, the whole murder thing is horrifying, but it wouldn't be the first time humans make practical choices in the face of horrific discrimination.
Political slogan: A baby in every pot
Clarence Thomas again.
"Customs and Border Protection records revealed that the justice and his wife, Virginia Thomas, took a round trip between Hawaii and New Zealand in November 2010 on Mr. Crow’s private jet, according to the letter."
I can't believe we let this fuck into the country. I shall send a stiff note to my MP.
I can’t believe you let him OUT!
I'm sure they were ecstatically happy to get rid off him.
It wasn't up to me you realise. :)
At least it was temporary. NZ inflicted Ray Comfort on everyone and the infestation is ongoing. :)
At least they're not Australia. 𝘛𝘩𝘰𝘴𝘦 bastards still have Rupert Murdoch and Mel Gibson to answer for.
Don't you forget someone ? kentucky fucking conman.
We'd return him on his own boat, but the damn thing would sink before it got far enough away for him to swim back.
A captain should sink with his ship.
Do it kiwickly.
As you should, his corruption might be catchy, throw Theil out, too!
Yah well. Dr Tarren L. Dames is so preaching the word by his actions isn't he. It's more than okay to be Queer just don't preach about how others "spit in God's face" when by his own actions he's doing the exact same thing. I really hope church is going out of business. Church isn't about God or Gods inclusive love anymore anyway. (Note -- he solicited a female undercover officer not a male officer but frequenting prostitutes is "spitting in God's face" according to him.)
It's never been anything more than a grift. Separating people from their money is the world's oldest profession, not sex work.
On an episode of The Barney Miller Show (dating myself rather badly), Lt. Dietrich (if I remember correctly) refers to begging as the world’s oldest profession. Someone else says, “I thought it was prostitution.” Dietrich replies in his usual deadpan way, “Someone had to ask for it.”
I remember that show, too, so we're in the 'old' basket! I was absolutely shocked to see Fish in The Godfather!!
🎯
God doesn't have a face. You're only allowed to see his ass. Or so moses says.
gotcha atheist!
God most definetly has a face. "No man may look upon My face and live." Why his butt is okay is anybodies guess. Maybe His butt is nicer?
"No man may look upon my face and live," sayeth the Lärd, "but you can check out my ass if you want. My tuchus is fair game." [Bootyronomy 11:6]
That made me laugh. Checking out God's tuchus.
😁
Very funny. And probably true
But if no one has seen his face, then no one can testify that he has one. Because they're dead.
And he is a known liar.
It his butt is OK, for a really old guys butt. You try having nice firm melons after a few thousand years.
My melons have seen better days. Can't say I know what Moses actually saw or didn't see.
Notice how older men have melons? 🍉👅
Certainly ont également le melon (over inflated ego).
Give me America's ass any day. (Speaking of Chris Evan's butt, not the braying donkey running for President) (apologies to donkeys)
Only if you give me Ryan's.
Saw quite a bit of it clad in red leather this past weekend.
I am not sre if it was the ass or the face. It was dark and a hole is a hole.
Was it ever? I'm sure some churches were that way, but that wasn't my experience.
I think church was more at one time love the sinner / forgive the sin but don't continue in the sin once upon a time. Now it's hate everybody who is in any way "different from the norm" and judge everybody else-- and that is NOT what Jesus preached. So if Church can't get back to the basics of love your neighbor as yourself then all those churches must be turned into affordable housing and that would be the best thing Church ever did.
Love the sinner/hate the sin is a meaningless distinction when the "sin" is an inherent part of who the "sinner" is.
You're right. More like love the person first, don't love the behavior. My behavior and your behavior doesn't make us who we are as people they are a component of who we are not the whole being of who we are.
It might be the reason why even USAian churches looses members. Can't say it makes me cry.
It wasn't what Jesus preached, but it is preached in other parts of the bible. (Homosexuality, for instance, is denounced as a capital crime in Leviticus 18:22)
The fact that such hateful views were the product, not of a "god", but of small-minded Jewish priests who *pretended* to speak for a deity, is of course lost on the brainwashed billions who believe this book is "magical".
Anne McCaffrey had an AI call it the "Greatest book Mankind has ever written" I like a lot of her work, but that line was ridiculous. (I also have a problem with her romanticizing older men falling in love with young girls)
People who think the bible is "a great work of literature" generally haven't read it.
Try reading the horrors of the book of Leviticus and then saying this is a "great book"...🤮
🎯Leviticus was one primitive, fucked up dude.
That's actually a mistranslation.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-146135575
"god is love" is religious doublespeak. It's existed for 2,000 years, but didn't get properly named until George Orwell's 1984.
I will doublethink on this.
Looks like God spit back, oooops!
Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed for allowing transgender people to exist, they were destroyed for being inhospitable to foreigners. Something the right (this church, being focused on this issue, is definitely part of the right) is infamous for. Saw blade buoys, razor wire beaches and all the kidnapping children at the border and all.
Gah! You’d think preachers would know their own bibles, but it doesn’t fit their agenda so we’re fighting this misinformation at a disadvantage.
They know it, but they don't like it. Therefore they ignore it.
First if all, sex isn't going away. Make it legal. Unionize the workers, protections for workers who have been trafficked, health-care, mental health-care for all, and very clear laws.
The Jerry Falwells will keep falling. They're human, not Apostles. They believe their own self serving egotistical bullshit. I thought they had God on speed dial. They must have missed the fuck around and find out call. Christofascists and their life long toxic obsessions with sex. 🫣
Licenses, regular health-checks, and disability and career-change assistance when infected with a chronic STD.
Maine actually legalized the sale of it, but not the buying. Maine will expunge sex workers criminal record so they can get out of the trade for a mainstream job.
Sell it, but not buy it? Expunging their records is a step in the right direction. That's something anyway. Misogyny is a bitch.
Correct, only the sex worker selling the sex is legal. The John (buyer) can still be arrested.
Maine did this to help sex workers exit the trade without arrests/criminal records haunting them.
Yet another in a series of transphobic pastors who can't deal with the fact that sex and gender aren't necessarily congruent. Yet another jerk who wants simple answers to complex questions, because his iron-age holy book supposedly speaks against such phenomena.
Yet another fool who wants to live in the 19th century while the rest of us enjoy the 21st.
Oh ... and yet one more collar-wearing jackass whose speech doesn't match up with his actions!
But you’re just repeating yourself…
Are you accusing me of being a member of the Department of Repetitive Redundancy Department? 😁
I'll say that again, if you missed it the first time!
SCOTUS...?
If all creation is god's work and he only created males and females, why did he create snails and clown fishes ?
"I’m sure he’ll just tell his next congregation he was trying to meet that woman in order to save her."
No, he will tell she telepathically tempted him to sin by forcing him to go on this website he never heard of before.
And those disgusting sheepshead wrasse, out there changing sexes when they feel like it...
If you don't know whether you're a wrasse or a sheep, that might explain everything
Double hookup on a sheepshead on fishing trip with my friend. We both boated the fish. I looked at him and hissed, "Your wrasse is MINE!"
Lulz!
I bet you've been saving up that one for years, just waiting for the opportunity to bring it on some poor innocent unsuspecting blogger.
SHAME! SHAME!
Yep! Sadly, most people don't 'get it.' But that's okay, not everyone is a Fishlord!
Snails and clown fishes? Together? THAT AIN'T NATURAL!
Just don't ask how we ended up with banana slugs.
That's easy, they were created by men who wanted to show off the size of their penis but lived in societies where nudity was illegal.
Oh. That's banana slings, you said slugs. Carry on.
And the men who carried them looked fabulous.
They found the fruit apealling.
Two fishermen were eating a clownfish. One looked at the other and said “does this fish taste funny?”
The oversized shoes didn't give it away?
*Groan*
Let's face it people, this is no longer news. It's just SOP.
Good thing this isn't a news site. ; )
Indeed. I shudder to think how many such stories Hemant has recorded, and it is likely the tip of the iceberg.
He said it was so frequent, he only bothered with the egregious ones.
And that tells me everything I don't need to know, I already knew it.
Certainly points out that religion as practiced is a scam.
ie, why would a scammer follow the rules of his/her own scam
I sincerely hope that Dames' actions have turned at least some of his former congregation off to Christianity and help to hasten the religion's demise.
But that's the optimist in me speaking.
I remember this argument from back in the 80's when one of our church leaders was caught in adultery: "Satan works the hardest on those who are the most devout Christians."
He had to resign, but people still felt sympathy for him. - "What a shame, he was so dedicated." The woman he adulterated with was treated like shit. She hung a round for a while and tried to ride it out, but none of her former friends wanted anything to do with her. She left the church and IIRC, eventually moved away to another town.
Sad but a common response.
He will claim jesus has forgiven him and they should too.
They should shun him, knowing that even if Christians aren't supposed to criticize one another that THEY'LL be forgive for cutting ties with this sinner.
They're taking up collections for him now. He's a victim of the godless left.
Sounds about right.
These sting operations always seem to catch preachers and teachers. ???
And yet not a single cross dresser.
It’s almost like a pattern…
Mostly preachers and GOP losers. In fact it’s probably in the high 90s percent-wise…
Does the "full service" come with fries and a drink?
Super size me, then.
For a month ?
No. Just a Gatorade.
No Diet Dew
Caffeine-Free Diet Mountain Dew.
(I once saw it in the 'flesh')
Ew. Caffeine and sugar are the only reasons to even drink that radioactive goblin piss.
And only then if there's no better source of the active ingredients available.
Caffeine and sugar are the only reasons to drink any soda. I miss Jolt Cola, twice the caffeine and three times the sugar.
I drink caffeine-free diet pepsi after about 6p.
You have to order the combo for that.
You have to order the combo for that.
One quibble - they speak of “discipling” children, not disciplining them. I assume they mean turning them into disciples of Christ or some such tripe.
That's just another word for indoctrination. They just don't want to admit it.
Have you ever heard of the Joshua Generation? Google them. There are thousands of young Christian purists presently being groomed for government roles.
I first heard that phrase when the duggars' reality TV show was still a thing. Josh was supposed to be the Duggar Epitome of the "Joshua Generation" or something like that. Then somebody blew his holy cover.
Exactly where I heard it. Madison Cawthorn was a Joshua product.
Well, that’s scary. And real. Ugh.
That phasing also betrays their true level of "concern" for children: as things to have others' wills imposed on them, not as people with the right to choose their own path in life.