The oldest global pedophile ring on the planet has plenty of money to offer free pre K. They just wanted to ram their bullshit into children along with their shlong and get paid for it. Fk them. The sooner they die out, the better.
If you want to remove pedo genitalia, I recommend a blowtorch and rusty pliers to remove it. I would make the pedo watch you purée their genitalia, then force the pedo to drink it.
Oh, they understand it alright. They just hatr that the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause isn't trumped by the free exercise clause. They want free exercise absolutism, the idea that their personal religious beliefs should take precedence over everyone else's rights. Not just Christian Fucking Privilege, but 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆 Christianity.
Even worse: mandatory Roman Catholic Christianity. St. Mark's Episcopal Church, up the street from my house, flies the LGBT flag. I can't imagine their preschool discriminates against anybody.
I can vouch from personal experience that the catholics have had their hands out for that sweet, sweet taxpayer money for decades. They were pretty much unsuccessful in getting their grubby mitts on it until the current MAGA SCOTUS started tearing down the wall of separation.
Having been through kids in preschool, I'd love to hear them state specifics...particularly since there is generally only ever one parent interacting with the school at a time. Wife drops kid off...how does that interaction change if there's another wife at work? Husband picks kid up...how does that interaction change if there's another husband at work? You get a permission slip back with one signed parent's name on it. The sex of the other spouse matters for that permission slip...how?
I guess maybe at the holiday shows you don't want same sex parents sitting together? But in fact with straight people same sex people sit together all the time. Some other couple shows up you're friends with, it's quite normal for the dudes to sit together to talk while the women do the same (and I bet that with a gay couple, the spouses may do exactly the same thing and sit with straight friends on occasion because we all see our spouses plenty already.)
THAT is an attack on the very concept of publicly funded education, and I'd personally like to see it shot down with prejudice. Private schools of any type are not owed state support merely because there is a state option. That's never been how it works.
Good! Looks like the anti-LGBTQ prayers coming from the Church of the Holy Pedophile failed spectacularly. Chalk up another secular victory against the forces of darkness.
I seem to remember something about 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' Christians hear only 'do unto others.' The second part doesn't count, at least not with them.
“We will keep fighting to ensure that every preschooler in Colorado can access quality, affordable education.”
Excuse me!?! How does fighting for the privilege to discriminate against the preschoolers ensure every preschooler has access to quality, affordable education? Discrimination is antithetical to ensuring all students have access. Do you people even hear yourselves? Words have meanings, you know. Christ, I doubt any child would benefit from your program considering the lack of knowledge y’all are expressing.
“This ban forces parents to choose between paying out of pocket for the cost of faith-based preschool or receiving a free preschool education at any other private school in Colorado.”
Tough shit. Pay for your own bigotry, child rape cult.
Their complaint that they will have to raise tuition to cover the lost students is wack anyway. Why don’t they beg funds from the Vatican to maintain the school and keep tuition low?
Wait, I forgot the money within the RCC only flows upward, never down. How Christ-like.
This program isn’t about you, Catholic schools. Not your access to taxpayer money. Not your religious beliefs. Not your hurt feelings.
This program is about the students having access to preschool no matter who they are, who their parents are and how much money they have. If you can’t get behind that, then you don’t get to participate in the program. If you can’t compete, then you can’t compete.
If your beliefs weren’t all about being assholes, you wouldn’t be facing this “dilemma”.
Universal preschool is supposed to be universal, meaning all students.
The Catholic Church has historically always put doctrine and dogma over human beings and human sensibilities, as you well know. They think they should set the norms for society and are miffed when society ignores them.
Which means we need to continue rubbing their noses in situations like this until they get the message.
“This ban forces parents to choose between paying out of pocket for the cost of faith-based preschool or receiving a free preschool education at any other private school in Colorado. It also hurts the ability of schools like St. Mary’s and St. Bernadette’s to compete with other preschools that can offer free preschool education.”
The program is not here to make preschools be competitive, the program is designed to allow all students to have access to preschool. The beneficiaries, and therefore the people the state needs to care about, are the children/students. Full stop. Your inability to compete is irrelevant. Too bad, so sad.
It's rich that the Church wants to claim that giving tax dollars to everyone but them would mean they are at a disadvantage. The Church can run preschools and other things cheaper because of tax breaks and donations. THEY are the ones that have an advantage over for profit preschools.
I was born into a Catholic family, and as a matter of course got sent to the local parish elementary school. It was in a traditionally ethnic Polish neighborhood, Saint Mary of Czestochowa (they had a Polish language sermon at one of the Sunday masses). Whenever a family tried to enroll a child of the wrong ethnic persuasion or with special needs, they were told that the school had bilingual instruction in Polish and English and that the prospective student needed to be fluent in both languages to enroll. For eight years, my classmates were exclusively white; no hispanics, no blacks. I didn't get those until high school (which was also Catholic but not as bigoted).
In fact, I was unaware of my grade school's exclusionary policies until some forty years after I left there. It was true at one time that they did have instruction in Polish and English, but that was discontinued in 1924, when my father was in third grade. The nuns all spoke Polish even in my time, and they used to swear at us in that language. When I asked some of the people in the neighborhood who still spoke it what some of those words meant, they were shocked that I even knew those words and refused to translate.
The parish of Saint Mary of Czestochowa no longer exists; the church building is now a school of robotics, and the old school building is still a Catholic elementary school, and at least half of the kids who attend now would never have been allowed past the doors when I was a student there. As far as I know, the exclusionary policy was in use until the school changed hands.
I use to have a landline phone with an answering machine that had a greeting from an Elmer Fudd soundalike welcoming them to The Elmer Fudd School of Speech.
Thanks. I fixed it. That's not a very obvious feature. I found out about that little scheme when I read a history of my neighborhood. After living in several different parts of the country, I'm back in my old ground, living just two blocks from that school.
I'm betting the mother with a 7 year old trans kid is getting a lot of hate. The religious zealots want to spout the lie that there are only two genders but they completely dismiss the FACT that some babies are born with both, none, ambiguous, or simply different chromosomes. My sister commented on someone's Facebook that said dogs only have two genders, blah, blah, blah. My sister pointed out that it was a lie, she has been a dog groomer for over 30 years and has seen a few that were different.
While dog's genders are out there for anyone, at least their groomer, to see we don't know what a seven year old has in their pants and anyone who claims to have a need to look should be called out for the pedo they are.
I lived with dogs all my life, I am sure of one thing. None of them cared about gender. Every spring, Aria* (sterilised female) would dry hump Rhapsodie (sterilised female).
* The most dominant of my duet. Cowed once to my cousin's dog, 10 pounds at most 🤣
Gotta admit, I'm a little weirded out by a groomer implying several genders. Granted, they were responding to not originating the discussion, but to me this is an incorrect attempt to anthropomorphize, plus yet another sloppy naturalistic fallacy used to try and score culture war points. Just let them be dogs; how they interact with each other creates no rule, no implication, no guideline for how we humans should treat each other.
I am not sure why the school would ever even need to get into the issue. Katy wears a dress. Why should any teacher, or parent of another kid be concerning themselves with Katy's genitals? Why should anyone care if Katy's birth name is Kathleen or Charles? "Katy" is a nickname either way.
I guess maybe that *first* year in pre-school, when kids aren't necessarily all potty trained, some teacher would end up seeing them. But I"m also guessing that in most of these RCC preschools, the teachers care a lot less about trans/cis than the Bishops do.
So, the catholics want people to believe that equal treatment under state law is 'discrimination against their religious schools.' What hogwash! How, then, do they explain the 40-odd religious schools that are participating in CO's free pre-K program with no problems at all?
IF the parents of these catholic kids think that giving them a catholic pre-K education is that important, they'll cough up the tuition. And that's the heart of the diocese's problem: they know that if it comes down to a choice between free pre-K with no discrimination and pricey pre-K with bigotry intact, those parents ain't stupid - or all that concerned with the church's culture wars. They're going with free pre-K. If the church wants to complete in that marketplace AND make the case that catholic pre-K is important to them, they'll pony up the funds to provide it free-of-charge to the affected parishes. Having grown up catholic, I can vouch that 'special collections' are routine part of the mass schtick.
If their religion demands they discriminate against gay people, then the law demands they be excluded from this preschool program. I fail to see what qualifies them as victims. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
The oldest global pedophile ring on the planet has plenty of money to offer free pre K. They just wanted to ram their bullshit into children along with their shlong and get paid for it. Fk them. The sooner they die out, the better.
If they can get the state to pay for a fresh stream of victims, that's more money for shuffling the ones who get caught to palatial hideaways.
A pair of dull pinking shears will make sure they keep the stupid chastity vow.
This is the kind of outside-the-box thinking that keeps me coming back here. Bravo!
Thank you I'm here til Thursday. Try the Veal.
And don't forget to tip your waitstaff.
If you want to remove pedo genitalia, I recommend a blowtorch and rusty pliers to remove it. I would make the pedo watch you purée their genitalia, then force the pedo to drink it.
That's exactly what I say.
I got the idea from you, I hope you don’t mind me taking it and running with it!
Not at all. The more people that share this vision the closer to reality it becomes.
[𝑊]ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑎 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑚𝑒𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑎𝑙 𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑖𝑡𝑠 𝑑𝑜𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑚𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑏𝑒 𝑜𝑝𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑙𝑙.
𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑎𝑝𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑎 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑝𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝐶ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑.
Oh, they understand it alright. They just hatr that the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause isn't trumped by the free exercise clause. They want free exercise absolutism, the idea that their personal religious beliefs should take precedence over everyone else's rights. Not just Christian Fucking Privilege, but 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆 Christianity.
They're open to everyone's money. Just not to everyone themselves.
Even worse: mandatory Roman Catholic Christianity. St. Mark's Episcopal Church, up the street from my house, flies the LGBT flag. I can't imagine their preschool discriminates against anybody.
I can vouch from personal experience that the catholics have had their hands out for that sweet, sweet taxpayer money for decades. They were pretty much unsuccessful in getting their grubby mitts on it until the current MAGA SCOTUS started tearing down the wall of separation.
Exclusive Christian privilege
𝑎 “𝐶𝑎𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑐 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑐𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒-𝑠𝑒𝑥 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑎𝑠 𝑎 𝑓𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑦 𝑒𝑞𝑢𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑛𝑎𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑓𝑎𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑦
Having been through kids in preschool, I'd love to hear them state specifics...particularly since there is generally only ever one parent interacting with the school at a time. Wife drops kid off...how does that interaction change if there's another wife at work? Husband picks kid up...how does that interaction change if there's another husband at work? You get a permission slip back with one signed parent's name on it. The sex of the other spouse matters for that permission slip...how?
I guess maybe at the holiday shows you don't want same sex parents sitting together? But in fact with straight people same sex people sit together all the time. Some other couple shows up you're friends with, it's quite normal for the dudes to sit together to talk while the women do the same (and I bet that with a gay couple, the spouses may do exactly the same thing and sit with straight friends on occasion because we all see our spouses plenty already.)
𝑇ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑏𝑎𝑛 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑠 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑠𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑝𝑎𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ-𝑏𝑎𝑠𝑒𝑑 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑜𝑟 𝑟𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑓𝑟𝑒𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑐𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑠𝑐ℎ𝑜𝑜𝑙 𝑖𝑛 𝐶𝑜𝑙𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑑𝑜
THAT is an attack on the very concept of publicly funded education, and I'd personally like to see it shot down with prejudice. Private schools of any type are not owed state support merely because there is a state option. That's never been how it works.
Good! Looks like the anti-LGBTQ prayers coming from the Church of the Holy Pedophile failed spectacularly. Chalk up another secular victory against the forces of darkness.
Why didn't/doesn't Jeebus just tell the Judges how to rule?
Pretty hard to adjudicate when an imaginary being is involved.
Maybe he does. He was a lot less hateful than these people who call themselves Christians.
I seem to remember something about 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' Christians hear only 'do unto others.' The second part doesn't count, at least not with them.
“We will keep fighting to ensure that every preschooler in Colorado can access quality, affordable education.”
Excuse me!?! How does fighting for the privilege to discriminate against the preschoolers ensure every preschooler has access to quality, affordable education? Discrimination is antithetical to ensuring all students have access. Do you people even hear yourselves? Words have meanings, you know. Christ, I doubt any child would benefit from your program considering the lack of knowledge y’all are expressing.
WWJD? I cannot imagine the Jesus of the gospels would agree with their take on how to treat little kids.
“This ban forces parents to choose between paying out of pocket for the cost of faith-based preschool or receiving a free preschool education at any other private school in Colorado.”
Tough shit. Pay for your own bigotry, child rape cult.
Their complaint that they will have to raise tuition to cover the lost students is wack anyway. Why don’t they beg funds from the Vatican to maintain the school and keep tuition low?
Wait, I forgot the money within the RCC only flows upward, never down. How Christ-like.
The model currently being used by the US government.
I can’t believe you want the Vatican to dip into its billions of dollars of reserves. How blasphemous.
🤣
I would write it raping child cult.
It's very much a Cult of Misogyny as well.
Because they are or at least too many of them has been.
Overall my thoughts are.
This program isn’t about you, Catholic schools. Not your access to taxpayer money. Not your religious beliefs. Not your hurt feelings.
This program is about the students having access to preschool no matter who they are, who their parents are and how much money they have. If you can’t get behind that, then you don’t get to participate in the program. If you can’t compete, then you can’t compete.
If your beliefs weren’t all about being assholes, you wouldn’t be facing this “dilemma”.
Universal preschool is supposed to be universal, meaning all students.
The Catholic Church has historically always put doctrine and dogma over human beings and human sensibilities, as you well know. They think they should set the norms for society and are miffed when society ignores them.
Which means we need to continue rubbing their noses in situations like this until they get the message.
And no, I don't expect that any time soon! 😝
Them kids aren't going to learn how to be bigots on their own.
🎵You've got to be carefully taught🎵
♫♪ You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught! ♪♫
-- from South Pacific
A show tune came to all our minds. Another reason I love coming here.
“This ban forces parents to choose between paying out of pocket for the cost of faith-based preschool or receiving a free preschool education at any other private school in Colorado. It also hurts the ability of schools like St. Mary’s and St. Bernadette’s to compete with other preschools that can offer free preschool education.”
The program is not here to make preschools be competitive, the program is designed to allow all students to have access to preschool. The beneficiaries, and therefore the people the state needs to care about, are the children/students. Full stop. Your inability to compete is irrelevant. Too bad, so sad.
It's rich that the Church wants to claim that giving tax dollars to everyone but them would mean they are at a disadvantage. The Church can run preschools and other things cheaper because of tax breaks and donations. THEY are the ones that have an advantage over for profit preschools.
Their pseudo argument fail with a simple Internet research about how it works in countries with mandatory pre school subsidized by the state.
Sort of shit that shouldn’t concern kids they’re there to fucking learn not be exposed to garbage
I was born into a Catholic family, and as a matter of course got sent to the local parish elementary school. It was in a traditionally ethnic Polish neighborhood, Saint Mary of Czestochowa (they had a Polish language sermon at one of the Sunday masses). Whenever a family tried to enroll a child of the wrong ethnic persuasion or with special needs, they were told that the school had bilingual instruction in Polish and English and that the prospective student needed to be fluent in both languages to enroll. For eight years, my classmates were exclusively white; no hispanics, no blacks. I didn't get those until high school (which was also Catholic but not as bigoted).
In fact, I was unaware of my grade school's exclusionary policies until some forty years after I left there. It was true at one time that they did have instruction in Polish and English, but that was discontinued in 1924, when my father was in third grade. The nuns all spoke Polish even in my time, and they used to swear at us in that language. When I asked some of the people in the neighborhood who still spoke it what some of those words meant, they were shocked that I even knew those words and refused to translate.
The parish of Saint Mary of Czestochowa no longer exists; the church building is now a school of robotics, and the old school building is still a Catholic elementary school, and at least half of the kids who attend now would never have been allowed past the doors when I was a student there. As far as I know, the exclusionary policy was in use until the school changed hands.
Typo apology: "elementary", not "wlwmentary". My fingers were misaligned on the keyboard.
Update: Fixed.
Elmer Fudd Wlwmentary School.
Ewementawy School?
I use to have a landline phone with an answering machine that had a greeting from an Elmer Fudd soundalike welcoming them to The Elmer Fudd School of Speech.
3 dots top right on yr. comment has edit function. Fascinating comment BTW.
Thanks. I fixed it. That's not a very obvious feature. I found out about that little scheme when I read a history of my neighborhood. After living in several different parts of the country, I'm back in my old ground, living just two blocks from that school.
“ … the church building is now a school of robotics … “
So not much has changed then.
I'm betting the mother with a 7 year old trans kid is getting a lot of hate. The religious zealots want to spout the lie that there are only two genders but they completely dismiss the FACT that some babies are born with both, none, ambiguous, or simply different chromosomes. My sister commented on someone's Facebook that said dogs only have two genders, blah, blah, blah. My sister pointed out that it was a lie, she has been a dog groomer for over 30 years and has seen a few that were different.
While dog's genders are out there for anyone, at least their groomer, to see we don't know what a seven year old has in their pants and anyone who claims to have a need to look should be called out for the pedo they are.
I lived with dogs all my life, I am sure of one thing. None of them cared about gender. Every spring, Aria* (sterilised female) would dry hump Rhapsodie (sterilised female).
* The most dominant of my duet. Cowed once to my cousin's dog, 10 pounds at most 🤣
Gotta admit, I'm a little weirded out by a groomer implying several genders. Granted, they were responding to not originating the discussion, but to me this is an incorrect attempt to anthropomorphize, plus yet another sloppy naturalistic fallacy used to try and score culture war points. Just let them be dogs; how they interact with each other creates no rule, no implication, no guideline for how we humans should treat each other.
I am not sure why the school would ever even need to get into the issue. Katy wears a dress. Why should any teacher, or parent of another kid be concerning themselves with Katy's genitals? Why should anyone care if Katy's birth name is Kathleen or Charles? "Katy" is a nickname either way.
I guess maybe that *first* year in pre-school, when kids aren't necessarily all potty trained, some teacher would end up seeing them. But I"m also guessing that in most of these RCC preschools, the teachers care a lot less about trans/cis than the Bishops do.
"Colorado Permitted to Continue Faith-Based Discrimination by Federal Court"
-headline on Archdiocese of Denver webpage
Nothing like lying out loud, is there? 😝
So, the catholics want people to believe that equal treatment under state law is 'discrimination against their religious schools.' What hogwash! How, then, do they explain the 40-odd religious schools that are participating in CO's free pre-K program with no problems at all?
IF the parents of these catholic kids think that giving them a catholic pre-K education is that important, they'll cough up the tuition. And that's the heart of the diocese's problem: they know that if it comes down to a choice between free pre-K with no discrimination and pricey pre-K with bigotry intact, those parents ain't stupid - or all that concerned with the church's culture wars. They're going with free pre-K. If the church wants to complete in that marketplace AND make the case that catholic pre-K is important to them, they'll pony up the funds to provide it free-of-charge to the affected parishes. Having grown up catholic, I can vouch that 'special collections' are routine part of the mass schtick.
If their religion demands they discriminate against gay people, then the law demands they be excluded from this preschool program. I fail to see what qualifies them as victims. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Mmmmm..... cake🍰🤤