"I don't need to prove that to you," Farnsworth said, "To me, it's what I know in my heart is true, besides all the biblical references."
a) Yes you do. If you have no scientific evidence to back up your belief in Creationism, we are not beholden to it and can dismiss your claim without evidence.
b) What's in your organ is irrelevant.
c) The bible isn't a book of science and contains an endless number of contradictions and outright errors.
Let me ask you something. If your book is the inerrant word of your deity, which is correct: Genesis 1 or Genesis 2? They conflict with each other. They can't both be correct.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" (sometimes shortened to ECREE),[1] also known as the Sagan standard, is an aphorism popularized by science communicator Carl Sagan. He used the phrase in his 1979 book Broca's Brain and the 1980 television program Cosmos. It has been described as fundamental to the scientific method and is regarded as encapsulating the basic principles of scientific skepticism.
Wow. Some people are so childish, they can't even handle being asked a question. I expected more from a community that prides itself on being rational. You should seriously consider growing up.
Yes they can both be correct. This is religion weβre talking about. Either one of them is correct. all of them are correct, or none of them are correct.
But it is far more entertaining for all of them to be correct. What Matters is not so much that which is true, but that which is entertaining. I have said that many times on these very pages.
I bet he has never read either. I kind of feel you can't trust a religion thought up by a pedophilic con man in jail, because he wanted to bone young girls, otherwise known as children, in case I am being too obtuse.
How do all of these cretins feel about all the incest and pedophilia in the Bible? I'm sure they all agree with it since so many religious leaders follows both practices
Oh, terrific! In other words, "I know what I believe and I'm not interested in being dissuaded by bothersome things ... like FACTS." Someone needs to tell Farnsworth what happened in Pennsylvania, roughly 20 years ago. A little soiree known as Kitzmiller v Dover, and the ruling that stated that neither creationism nor intelligent design are fit to be taught in public schools.
So what we have here is really pretty pathetic. I'm not even sure it amounts to territory-marking, since Farnsworth's proposal has been declared dead on arrival.
Atavists like Farnsworth are just near-unbelievable to me that they even exist. I wonder if intelligent design is his blankee that he HAS to hang onto for whatever reason.
No need to wonder. Thatβs exactly the case. His faith is what assures him that he is Godβs BFFF. Itβs what tells him that he matters in the universe that doesnβt care whether he exists.
"I honestly think that people that donβt think that we were created by God are not very intelligent individuals themselves,ββ he said."
I so want him to say that to Professor Dave (Atheist), Forrest Valkai (Atheist), Gutsy Gibbons (Agnostic) and Clint's reptile (Christian). All scientists, 3 of them specialized in evolution.
Should we also throw in Francis Collins, who led the Human Genome Project, and is a born-again Christian who has publicly stated that evolution is based in solid science and that Adam and Eve are a genetic impossibility?
Forrest Valkai is just a DELIGHT to watch. His understanding of biology, combined with his EXCELLENT communication skills, makes him a wonderful addition to The Atheist Experience. The real shame are the Christians who either think they can buffalo him or just plain fail to listen.
Well thatβs nice, a pretty little run around jurisprudence. I can think of a hundred ways to use this phrase for good rather than ill.
Notwithstanding any other laws, taxes at 99% will be paid by all people who are worth more than $100,000,000.00. No exemptions or write offs.
Notwithstanding any other laws, insurance is required to cover all care primary and specialty doctors order for any and all individuals.
Notwithstanding any other laws, prisoners will be fully compensated for any and all work done during incarceration, slavery is abolished completely, no exceptions for convicted criminals or prisoners.
I know thatβs not how our system works, you know thatβs not how our system works, this asshole knows thatβs not how our system works, this is not how our system works. This is laughable on its face, just for that phrase alone. But it is also laughable that he thinks thereβs any valuable support for βintelligent designβ neither evidentiary nor politically. This is just a big red flag telling the world that Farnsworth is a flaming idiot who is completely incompetent and plain stupid.
Farnsworth thinks he can get his way, because reasons. It's an infantile statement made by a grownup infant, whose insecurities are screaming at the rest of us.
Someone should give him his baba and tuck him in for a nap.
Since Darwin first published over 160 years ago, not one reputable research institute or university has come up with any evidence that evolution is wrong. In fact with all of the scientific and technological advances and massive amounts of evidence gathered in that time his theories have been confirmed and gaps filled about what he did not yet know.
The only ones I have heard trying to say he's wrong are christian nutbags.
OT: 4 moderate House Repubs have signed the discharge petition for a vote on extending ACA subsidies. That gets the number to 218. If none of them get bought off in the next 7 legislative days, there will be a vote in early January. It will likely narrowly pass the House and then get defeated in the Senate. But it will put Pubs on record of voting for dramatically higher health care premiums in the mid-term year.
I would bet that when Farnsworth says "creationism", he means specifically the YEC put out by AIG and others. (Mike Johnson has an author page on the AIG website. )
That statement alone betrays his intent to violate ππ₯πΈπ’π³π₯π΄ π· ππ¨πΆπͺπππ’π³π₯, probably to try and get SCOTUS to overturn that.
Hey Farnsworth:
How many creation stories will you allow? Since you are demanding equal time for science and religion when discussing the diversity of life on this planet, ate you going to deny the non-Abrahamics? Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths
Oh, and we didn't just come from monkeys. Our common ancestor with all extant monkeys and apes was a monkey, and we still are monkeys. Every characteristic that determines whether or not something can be classified as a monkey applies to us.
My Brit friend refers to them as Morons. I corrected him and he replied, that's what I said. I've only met excommunicated Mormons but they were some of nicest people I've known. But they were very naive and unworldly, almost like their religion limited what they could learn about reality.
I'd settle for even bare-bones text formatting; we shouldn't need to keep a third-party site bookmarked for the kind of basic functionality that's been baked into every other text-entry interface feature for at least thirty years.
"I don't need to prove that to you," Farnsworth said, "To me, it's what I know in my heart is true, besides all the biblical references."
a) Yes you do. If you have no scientific evidence to back up your belief in Creationism, we are not beholden to it and can dismiss your claim without evidence.
b) What's in your organ is irrelevant.
c) The bible isn't a book of science and contains an endless number of contradictions and outright errors.
Let me ask you something. If your book is the inerrant word of your deity, which is correct: Genesis 1 or Genesis 2? They conflict with each other. They can't both be correct.
To quote Astronogeek "Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence".
And:
πβππ‘ πππ ππ ππ π πππ‘ππ π€ππ‘βππ’π‘ ππ£ππππππ πππ πππ π ππ πππ πππ π ππ π€ππ‘βππ’π‘ ππ£ππππππ.
-- Hitchens' Razor
He quote this one regularly too. Mainly in his debunking videos.
Who is Astronogeek? That quote is from Carl Sagan, isn't it?
Ton daron à oilpé sur la Canebière.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" (sometimes shortened to ECREE),[1] also known as the Sagan standard, is an aphorism popularized by science communicator Carl Sagan. He used the phrase in his 1979 book Broca's Brain and the 1980 television program Cosmos. It has been described as fundamental to the scientific method and is regarded as encapsulating the basic principles of scientific skepticism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_claims_require_extraordinary_evidence
Since was first answer was too complicated for your understanding, what do you think of this ?
You are a fucking pedant, and I don't give a fuck of your condescension π
Wow. Some people are so childish, they can't even handle being asked a question. I expected more from a community that prides itself on being rational. You should seriously consider growing up.
Yes they can both be correct. This is religion weβre talking about. Either one of them is correct. all of them are correct, or none of them are correct.
I'm going with "none." ;)
But it is far more entertaining for all of them to be correct. What Matters is not so much that which is true, but that which is entertaining. I have said that many times on these very pages.
Big-time up-vote for the whole Gen 1 v Gen 2 contradiction. Order of events MATTERS, Farnsworth, or don't you care about that, either?
I bet he has never read either. I kind of feel you can't trust a religion thought up by a pedophilic con man in jail, because he wanted to bone young girls, otherwise known as children, in case I am being too obtuse.
Do we have proof he even has a heart?
How do all of these cretins feel about all the incest and pedophilia in the Bible? I'm sure they all agree with it since so many religious leaders follows both practices
Donβt forget Ezekiel 23:20.
πΌ πππβπ‘ ππππ π‘π ππππ£π π‘βππ‘ π‘π π¦ππ’,ββ πΉππππ π€πππ‘β π πππ. βππ ππ, ππ‘βπ π€βππ‘ πΌ ππππ€ ππ ππ¦ βππππ‘ ππ π‘ππ’π, πππ ππππ πππ π‘βπ ππππππππ ππππππππππ .
Oh, terrific! In other words, "I know what I believe and I'm not interested in being dissuaded by bothersome things ... like FACTS." Someone needs to tell Farnsworth what happened in Pennsylvania, roughly 20 years ago. A little soiree known as Kitzmiller v Dover, and the ruling that stated that neither creationism nor intelligent design are fit to be taught in public schools.
So what we have here is really pretty pathetic. I'm not even sure it amounts to territory-marking, since Farnsworth's proposal has been declared dead on arrival.
Old Man Shouting At Cloud comes to mind. π
The first ruling against teaching creationism in public schools was about a century ago. Science progressed but not bigots brains.
Atavists like Farnsworth are just near-unbelievable to me that they even exist. I wonder if intelligent design is his blankee that he HAS to hang onto for whatever reason.
No need to wonder. Thatβs exactly the case. His faith is what assures him that he is Godβs BFFF. Itβs what tells him that he matters in the universe that doesnβt care whether he exists.
*Farnsworth, a Mormon,β¦β*
I think I see a typo here!
I KNOW I see a typo there!
Sorry, Iβm British. We default to understatement. π
Oh, no worries ... and welcome to the gang!
Ha! I quoted my friend from London who says the same.
We all do. :D
And "We ALL put the yeast in!" π€£π€£π€£
Heard that in Moe, Larry and Curlyβs voices. :)
If 'intelligent design' is a thing then why are there pediatric cancer wards and why does Ken Ham have to wear glasses?
We should just rebrand their rebrand of creationism to something a little more appropriate: ππ’ππ¦π·π°ππ¦π―π΅ Design.
Ooooh. Me likes.
For that matter, why does medicine WORK? How is it that medicine is a semi-precise science at all?
And in browsing through YouTube Shorts, I just ran onto THIS, which is frankly astonishing in the biomedical engineering that has been accomplished:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iQbkHZpnFW4
Thanks for that. Another truly amazing SCIENTIFIC advance.
My young brother died from this Leukemia in 1978, aged 26. We still miss him but I am thrilled that now many lives will be saved.
That's up for debate with RFK Jr.
Robbie is lucky he can find his own ass with two hands and an instruction manual!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVAO_6nkGtU
Good grief, Agnes! Who the fuck IS that jackass???
From his profile "I am a candidate for the U.S. House (NJ-11), lawyer, stand up comedian, impressionist and sketch writer."
It's satire.
RFK Jr., portrayed by J-L Cauvin, the world's best Trump impersonator and star of Dictator for a Day.
And a flashlight !
AND an appendix AND a gallbladder that can go south ... PAINFULLY!
It's Eve's fault. Didn't you read the Bible?
π
I read a lot of books but not this collection of pseudoepigrapha that claims to be THE book.
If we didn't come from monkeys, then why do I like bananas?
If we didn't come from monkeys, why do I throw shit at bigots?
Because they deserve it?
Ummm ... because they have appeal?
We know why you like bananas. But this is a family news newspaper.
Mmmm, bananas!
...
Carrying thirty thousand pounds of bananas
Carrying thirty thousand pounds
(Hit it big John)
Of bananas!!!!
Thank you for the memories Harry C.
https://youtu.be/imrFn6czYDk
But believing in Lucifer is bananas!
That would explain a lot of things about Rhapsodie.
Rhapsodie sounds like a dog I would have enjoyed getting to know.
You would have needed several months* at best for her to let you approach her, but she was good for my wallet.
*The only two exceptions were me and her vet.
Long as he was good for you. Seriously, what else counts?
Her nickname was cuddle machine π
Very, VERY cool. More cuddle machines needed on this planet. Would improve things by orders of magnitude!
LOL !
Intelligent Design: Christianity in a cheap rented tux with mismatched shoes.
If the biblical god's design is so perfect, why do I need glasses to correct that deity's "Perfect" design?
Something, something, original sin.
Because, as an atheist, you refuse to see the truth of His glorious light, and so He symbolically punishes you by affecting your vision./s
I can see that argument/
"I honestly think that people that donβt think that we were created by God are not very intelligent individuals themselves,ββ he said."
I so want him to say that to Professor Dave (Atheist), Forrest Valkai (Atheist), Gutsy Gibbons (Agnostic) and Clint's reptile (Christian). All scientists, 3 of them specialized in evolution.
Should we also throw in Francis Collins, who led the Human Genome Project, and is a born-again Christian who has publicly stated that evolution is based in solid science and that Adam and Eve are a genetic impossibility?
Seems so to me.
I honestly think that people that DO think we were created by god are not very intelligent individuals, but also deluded in a laughable way.
Forrest Valkai is just a DELIGHT to watch. His understanding of biology, combined with his EXCELLENT communication skills, makes him a wonderful addition to The Atheist Experience. The real shame are the Christians who either think they can buffalo him or just plain fail to listen.
I watch two of those channels.
I really enjoy Clint's stuff.
I forgot to ask. Which is the second one ?
Dave, sometimes.
βNotwithstanding any other law,β
Well thatβs nice, a pretty little run around jurisprudence. I can think of a hundred ways to use this phrase for good rather than ill.
Notwithstanding any other laws, taxes at 99% will be paid by all people who are worth more than $100,000,000.00. No exemptions or write offs.
Notwithstanding any other laws, insurance is required to cover all care primary and specialty doctors order for any and all individuals.
Notwithstanding any other laws, prisoners will be fully compensated for any and all work done during incarceration, slavery is abolished completely, no exceptions for convicted criminals or prisoners.
I know thatβs not how our system works, you know thatβs not how our system works, this asshole knows thatβs not how our system works, this is not how our system works. This is laughable on its face, just for that phrase alone. But it is also laughable that he thinks thereβs any valuable support for βintelligent designβ neither evidentiary nor politically. This is just a big red flag telling the world that Farnsworth is a flaming idiot who is completely incompetent and plain stupid.
Farnsworth thinks he can get his way, because reasons. It's an infantile statement made by a grownup infant, whose insecurities are screaming at the rest of us.
Someone should give him his baba and tuck him in for a nap.
"I don't wanna live on this planet anymore" - Professor Farnsworth, Futurama
At least Professor Farnsworth has options.
Either that or he wants his way, or he'll hold his breath until he turns blue!
Since Darwin first published over 160 years ago, not one reputable research institute or university has come up with any evidence that evolution is wrong. In fact with all of the scientific and technological advances and massive amounts of evidence gathered in that time his theories have been confirmed and gaps filled about what he did not yet know.
The only ones I have heard trying to say he's wrong are christian nutbags.
OT: 4 moderate House Repubs have signed the discharge petition for a vote on extending ACA subsidies. That gets the number to 218. If none of them get bought off in the next 7 legislative days, there will be a vote in early January. It will likely narrowly pass the House and then get defeated in the Senate. But it will put Pubs on record of voting for dramatically higher health care premiums in the mid-term year.
Oo oo oo oo, ah ah ah ah
Translation: Farnsworth is a fuckwit and Iβm out of bananas π
β«βͺ YES, we have no bananas! / We have no bananas today! βͺβ«
Sorry, couldn't resist!
It's soon Rhapsodie birthday. Her ashes expect her weight in bananas.
Some very nice harmonies for that song from the Muppets
youtu.be/-vQ0XUNxJyQ
"It's not easy being [a] green [banana]"
Nor should you have. π
It's a fact: I enjoy this place as much for the silly side comments as for the more serious conversations. I think that's healthy as hell!
Agreed. A little silly goes a long way in these trying times
π΄ πππ‘π‘ππ ππππ πππ π πππ€ πππ π‘βππ ππ πππππ βππ ππ¦ π‘βπ π€ππ ππ π‘ πππ.
-- Roald Dahl
"has also co-sponsored a bill this term to rename a section of road the βCharlie Kirk Highway.β"
"Charlie Kirk Highway" sounds like a euphemism for anal sex.
Considering what happened to the Grindr servers during his funeral bash...
Farnsworth is an ammosexual. Wonder how he felt after Kirk was gunned down.
Expended?
Seems like he's shot his load, hasn't he?
π
Ho, ho... you snuck that one in the back door.
π₯΄
Bill is DOA. IOW, Farnsworth is virtue signalling.
βπΌπ π€πβππ πππππ π‘π π‘πππβ π‘βππ‘ πππ ππππ ππππ ππππππ¦π , πΌ π‘βπππ π€π ππ’πβπ‘ π‘π πππ£π π πβππππ,ββ π‘βπ π πππ’ππππππ π πππ.
β¦
π΄ππ πΉππππ π€πππ‘β ππππ ππ πππππ ππππ’π‘ π‘βπ ππππ‘ π‘βππ‘ π€βπππ βπ ππ π’π πππ π‘βπ πβπππ π βπππ‘ππππππππ‘ πππ πππ,ββ βπ ππππ€π π€βππ‘ π‘βππ ππ ππππ’π‘.
βπΌπ ππ‘ π€πππ π’π π‘π ππ, πΌ π€ππ’ππ ππ’π π‘ ππππ ππ‘ πππππ‘πππππ π,β βπ π πππ, πππππππ π‘βππ‘ πππ ππ ππππ‘π ππ π‘βπ π’πππ£πππ π ππππππππ‘ππ π€ππ‘β π π π’ππππππ‘π’πππ πππ‘.
I would bet that when Farnsworth says "creationism", he means specifically the YEC put out by AIG and others. (Mike Johnson has an author page on the AIG website. )
That statement alone betrays his intent to violate ππ₯πΈπ’π³π₯π΄ π· ππ¨πΆπͺπππ’π³π₯, probably to try and get SCOTUS to overturn that.
Hey Farnsworth:
How many creation stories will you allow? Since you are demanding equal time for science and religion when discussing the diversity of life on this planet, ate you going to deny the non-Abrahamics? Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths
Oh, and we didn't just come from monkeys. Our common ancestor with all extant monkeys and apes was a monkey, and we still are monkeys. Every characteristic that determines whether or not something can be classified as a monkey applies to us.
"Our common ancestor with all extant monkeys and apes was a monkey, and we still are monkeys."
Err, aren't we still apes rather than monkeys?
Humans are a subset of great apes, which are a subset of catarrhine monkeys, so in that sense, we are still monkeys.
Monkeys, schmunkies! I prefer to think I'm descended from fish.
Tiktaalik!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9h1tR42QYA
Actually we all descend from a single cell.
I know, but I like the idea of fish and they are back there in the chain somewhere.
More precisely primates who share a common ancestor.
My Brit friend refers to them as Morons. I corrected him and he replied, that's what I said. I've only met excommunicated Mormons but they were some of nicest people I've known. But they were very naive and unworldly, almost like their religion limited what they could learn about reality.
You had me until "almost".π
We need a sarcasm font, it seldom comes across without it.
I'd settle for even bare-bones text formatting; we shouldn't need to keep a third-party site bookmarked for the kind of basic functionality that's been baked into every other text-entry interface feature for at least thirty years.
Yaytext.com has all sorts of alternative fonts which I suspect could be used here. Give a look and suggest one or more!