Every time Christians destroy a completely inoffensive Satanic display they somehow feel threatened by, they merely reveal their own personal weaknesses and the failings of their religion.
When was the last time anyone heard of a Nativity creche being vandalized/destroyed by atheists or anyone from TST? I can tell you when: NEVER. And if it had happened, hypocritical Christians would've screamed so loud, they could've been heard on the ISS.
No, destruction is a thing for the people touting the Ten Commandments, not for those following the Seven Fundamental Tenets.
"Every time Christians destroy a completely inoffensive Satanic display they somehow feel threatened by, they merely reveal their own personal weaknesses and the failings of their religion."
I wish I could give this statement multiple likes. Well said.
You can sum up that whole business in one word: INSECURITY. Believers have to lean on faith, and faith, having no basis in fact, may only be satisfying to those who can utterly convince / fool themselves into believing whole hog. Otherwise, any alternative expression or opinion becomes a threat.
I congratulate The Satanic Temple on not backing down over their right to display an image of their faith in the public square. And I thank the artists of the Concord Area Artist Coalition for Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion for contributing their talents to reinstalling the exhibit. No one should tolerate religious bigotry. We need to push back, HARD, on any infringement of religious rights, especially those of vulnerable, minority religions.
See, this is why you buy your Baphomets in bulk. You're gonna go through at least a couple per city per season, on account of all the ambient butthurt!
In which case I'd better repost this being as everyone will miss it otherwise possibly.
OT. Just watched a very old episode of have I got news for you while I was on the elliptical. One of the guests was Ian McKellen. He told a story where some pommy politician was trying to introduce a bit of anti-gay legislation so he went round to see him and try to talk him out of it. He realised that the meeting was useless, the guy wasn't listening and wasn't going to listen, but at the end the guy asked him to sign his kid' s autograph book. He signed it "Ian McKellen – fuck it I'm gay."
That's hilarious. He also once said, 'Half of Hollywood is gay.' So, on Hemant's old Patheos Non-religious blog, some of us commented we wish there was a hell, the floor shows would be fabulous and sparkly. Imagine meeting, having a front row seat with all our online P/NR friends to watch the likes of Neil Patrick Harris et al.....for ever....rather than heaven with all the obnoxious fundies we read about on that blog!
Y...e...e....e....s...s but it's the "forever" part that bothers me. Admittedly, it would take longer than praising JHWH forever but inevitably everyone there would realise that it had become Hell.
I am not a Satanist, but I believe wholeheartedly that the destruction done to the first statue was totally wrong and hateful. If Christianity is going to be given permission to put a display there, Satanists and every other group has the same right.
Me neither. But then, I thought it was stupid when they told us about christians choosing martyrdom rather than accepting Roman gods publicly. Me, I would have just lied. Hail Neptune!
Thought of posting that idea but had to reject it. How long would the person have to wait before someone tried to 'vandalize' him? No food breaks, no bathroom breaks, etc.
The prevalence of all these Christian mayors and other town leaders is why I don't trust the statistics that say America is moving away from religion. If religion is truly waning in the U.S., why are these people more numerous than ever? Why are they in so many positions of power?
Christianity is not "weakening" in America, it's getting stronger. They have the Supreme Court, they abolished Roe v. Wade, and soon Christian nationalists will be occupying Cabinet positions. America is more in the grip of religion than ever -- and the rest of us are a minority that is NOT making progress: we are fighting desperately to hang onto the ground we've gained, in the face of a renewed Christian onslaught.
I would bet most U.S citizens don't know when their mayoral election is. They may not even know the name of their mayor. I believe the people are becoming less religious, but a concerted effort that has been ignored because "It can't happen here", has allowed Christian Nationalists to take control of the government. Even as religion means less and less to the average citizen, the perception of "Christian good" has not fallen off nearly as rapidly.
I'm honestly not even sure what jurisdiction's mayor I'd be voting for, since my last move. I'm in one of those "this town has its own name and postal code, but the mail actually goes to this other town in the next postal code, and your taxes go to the other 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 town next door" towns. This country is so bloody weird...
My address is the town south of me. My phone and school district is the town north of me. My water comes from the second town north of me, in a different county.
Our election was last month, I know our current (re-elected) mayor fairly well, and our previous mayor was our neighbor. Her kids babysat ours a couple times.
Judging by the wait at the polls for mayoral elections and the turnout listed on the county website, I think very few people in mid to large size towns know their mayor. Small towns where you know the 3 kids in kindergarten despite your kids being in college and you're working construction 30 miles away, yeah you probably know the mayor.
I think there are fewer Christians, but they are becoming more politicised and more organised. Partly because they realise they are in decline, and they are desperate. And therefore much more dangerous.
I hope there are a few video cameras in or hidden very close to the display. The resulting video could be very interesting indeed. Especially to an attorney.
Roger the dodger's right-to-life stance is completely at odds with the Old Testament and how gleefuly his deity, its armies and its priests practiced abortion. Nowhere in the bible is abortion prohibited.
I've had my fill of troll-play today with mister "Christian Nationalist aren't Christians, and I've studied Satanism and Christianity more than you so I can define Christianity for everyone"
Sorry I missed this one. Was at a concert of The Rock Orchestra ... which was pretty darn good!
How many times do we have to go through this? How many times will Christians lose their minds about something they are convinced threatens them when there has NEVER been any threat expressed by the other party, and how many times will they act out. Frankly, I don't see an end to this kind of behavior, because they cannot stand in the face of an alternative belief, never mind lack of belief.
They are scared little children in adult bodies ... which makes them extraordinarily dangerous.
There is a deeply entrenched expectation of Christian privilege in this country, and Christians never stop trying to mark their territory in the public square, and schools. That overwhelming sense of privilege is, however, very easily threatened and I think it speaks directly to just how weak their belief system really is. Evidently, if they can just force their belief system on everyone it somehow proves they're right. They could help their cause by getting everyone on the same page, but the splintering of Christianity continues apace.
Every time Christians destroy a completely inoffensive Satanic display they somehow feel threatened by, they merely reveal their own personal weaknesses and the failings of their religion.
When was the last time anyone heard of a Nativity creche being vandalized/destroyed by atheists or anyone from TST? I can tell you when: NEVER. And if it had happened, hypocritical Christians would've screamed so loud, they could've been heard on the ISS.
No, destruction is a thing for the people touting the Ten Commandments, not for those following the Seven Fundamental Tenets.
"Every time Christians destroy a completely inoffensive Satanic display they somehow feel threatened by, they merely reveal their own personal weaknesses and the failings of their religion."
I wish I could give this statement multiple likes. Well said.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
You can sum up that whole business in one word: INSECURITY. Believers have to lean on faith, and faith, having no basis in fact, may only be satisfying to those who can utterly convince / fool themselves into believing whole hog. Otherwise, any alternative expression or opinion becomes a threat.
And here we are.
I congratulate The Satanic Temple on not backing down over their right to display an image of their faith in the public square. And I thank the artists of the Concord Area Artist Coalition for Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion for contributing their talents to reinstalling the exhibit. No one should tolerate religious bigotry. We need to push back, HARD, on any infringement of religious rights, especially those of vulnerable, minority religions.
See, this is why you buy your Baphomets in bulk. You're gonna go through at least a couple per city per season, on account of all the ambient butthurt!
Baphomets R Us.
I notice their omnieverydamnedthing gods never act. It is always people breaking laws and claiming divine command.
Chock Full O' Baphomets!
In which case I'd better repost this being as everyone will miss it otherwise possibly.
OT. Just watched a very old episode of have I got news for you while I was on the elliptical. One of the guests was Ian McKellen. He told a story where some pommy politician was trying to introduce a bit of anti-gay legislation so he went round to see him and try to talk him out of it. He realised that the meeting was useless, the guy wasn't listening and wasn't going to listen, but at the end the guy asked him to sign his kid' s autograph book. He signed it "Ian McKellen – fuck it I'm gay."
That's hilarious. He also once said, 'Half of Hollywood is gay.' So, on Hemant's old Patheos Non-religious blog, some of us commented we wish there was a hell, the floor shows would be fabulous and sparkly. Imagine meeting, having a front row seat with all our online P/NR friends to watch the likes of Neil Patrick Harris et al.....for ever....rather than heaven with all the obnoxious fundies we read about on that blog!
Y...e...e....e....s...s but it's the "forever" part that bothers me. Admittedly, it would take longer than praising JHWH forever but inevitably everyone there would realise that it had become Hell.
...And the other half is Bi, you must be flexible in LaLa Land.
Sounds like something he would do. Touché!
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I am not a Satanist, but I believe wholeheartedly that the destruction done to the first statue was totally wrong and hateful. If Christianity is going to be given permission to put a display there, Satanists and every other group has the same right.
How Christian of the vandals.
Can't you feel the love?
"Loving" jesus.
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Somehow, I don't see this crowd singing "I got that joy joy joy joy down in my heart."
"I got that hatred and control down in my heart." FIFY
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"Onward christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus, going on before."
Yeah, we had to sing that in Sunday Skool. Never gave the words much thought back then.
Never could figure out why an all-powerful god needed an army.
Me neither. But then, I thought it was stupid when they told us about christians choosing martyrdom rather than accepting Roman gods publicly. Me, I would have just lied. Hail Neptune!
Early indoctrination!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjgWWjkNbhU
They need to get the guy who builds the decoy packages to trick porch pirates.
Dress up a real person like the bush guy or the statue cowboy sitting on a bench.
Cigar store Indians?
Seinfeld covered that. I'm not going to touch it.
Only if I can get it back.
That would be hilarious! JUMPSCARE!
Thought of posting that idea but had to reject it. How long would the person have to wait before someone tried to 'vandalize' him? No food breaks, no bathroom breaks, etc.
GMTA, I said that on the first article. Can you imagine, first the stench, then the glitterbomb!
I looooove that guy!
The prevalence of all these Christian mayors and other town leaders is why I don't trust the statistics that say America is moving away from religion. If religion is truly waning in the U.S., why are these people more numerous than ever? Why are they in so many positions of power?
Christianity is not "weakening" in America, it's getting stronger. They have the Supreme Court, they abolished Roe v. Wade, and soon Christian nationalists will be occupying Cabinet positions. America is more in the grip of religion than ever -- and the rest of us are a minority that is NOT making progress: we are fighting desperately to hang onto the ground we've gained, in the face of a renewed Christian onslaught.
I would bet most U.S citizens don't know when their mayoral election is. They may not even know the name of their mayor. I believe the people are becoming less religious, but a concerted effort that has been ignored because "It can't happen here", has allowed Christian Nationalists to take control of the government. Even as religion means less and less to the average citizen, the perception of "Christian good" has not fallen off nearly as rapidly.
I'm honestly not even sure what jurisdiction's mayor I'd be voting for, since my last move. I'm in one of those "this town has its own name and postal code, but the mail actually goes to this other town in the next postal code, and your taxes go to the other 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 town next door" towns. This country is so bloody weird...
My address is the town south of me. My phone and school district is the town north of me. My water comes from the second town north of me, in a different county.
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Farm livin' is the life for me.
Land spreadin' out so far and wide ️🎵
Our election was last month, I know our current (re-elected) mayor fairly well, and our previous mayor was our neighbor. Her kids babysat ours a couple times.
Judging by the wait at the polls for mayoral elections and the turnout listed on the county website, I think very few people in mid to large size towns know their mayor. Small towns where you know the 3 kids in kindergarten despite your kids being in college and you're working construction 30 miles away, yeah you probably know the mayor.
One of my cousins was a small town mayor. All he got out of it was a pacemaker.
Most places go with a gold watch.
My mother's dad was a mayor in a small county (1950ies). All he got out of it was some more friends. Now it would have been harder here too.
Same as the national election. It used to be in March, but we changed it. Kenneth Welch, btw.
Here it's in May of the off odd year on a Saturday, IIRC.
I think there are fewer Christians, but they are becoming more politicised and more organised. Partly because they realise they are in decline, and they are desperate. And therefore much more dangerous.
Their numbers are falling and all that is left is fanatical assholes.
I believe you have the right of it!
I hope there are a few video cameras in or hidden very close to the display. The resulting video could be very interesting indeed. Especially to an attorney.
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/slacktivistonpatheos/survey_finds_people_saying_theyre_not_political/#comment-6612717570
If anyone wants to dunk on him some more.
Roger the dodger's right-to-life stance is completely at odds with the Old Testament and how gleefuly his deity, its armies and its priests practiced abortion. Nowhere in the bible is abortion prohibited.
Yes they definitely pulled that out of their ass, up until Napoleon, even the Vatican didn't care.
robinmorgan.net/when-the-vatican-thought-abortion-was-moral/
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I've had my fill of troll-play today with mister "Christian Nationalist aren't Christians, and I've studied Satanism and Christianity more than you so I can define Christianity for everyone"
Give him this link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tby1TaafO2g
That sounds like the deluded assholes who claim the Nazis weren't christian!
I wonder how long the fundies will let it stay up this time.?
Sorry I missed this one. Was at a concert of The Rock Orchestra ... which was pretty darn good!
How many times do we have to go through this? How many times will Christians lose their minds about something they are convinced threatens them when there has NEVER been any threat expressed by the other party, and how many times will they act out. Frankly, I don't see an end to this kind of behavior, because they cannot stand in the face of an alternative belief, never mind lack of belief.
They are scared little children in adult bodies ... which makes them extraordinarily dangerous.
There is a deeply entrenched expectation of Christian privilege in this country, and Christians never stop trying to mark their territory in the public square, and schools. That overwhelming sense of privilege is, however, very easily threatened and I think it speaks directly to just how weak their belief system really is. Evidently, if they can just force their belief system on everyone it somehow proves they're right. They could help their cause by getting everyone on the same page, but the splintering of Christianity continues apace.
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Yay it's up again but for how long. The mayor is a maga obviously.
If I lived there I'd lean heavily on his statement about enduring a lawsuit. Because you know it'd be the taxpayers footing the bill, not the mayor.
I must be slow. I do not get “Un Concord”?
"Unconquered."
Oh, I was slow.
No grapes were harmed in making this statue. : )