Seems as though we have a whole bunch of scaredy-cat Christians, all panicked about a competing religion coming into their back yard. Oh, and of course, that other religion is radical and terrorists and against the Constitution and all manner of bad things. I suspect they've forgotten about the almost entirely Christian terrorists who attacked the Capitol on 6 January, 2021.
The bigotry is out there for all to see, but those opposed to the Islamic center just can't see the forest for all those goll-darn trees.
(As a general rule, I love Milhaud's music! He does the "Brazilian" style so well that when I was (much*) younger, I thought he was actually Brazilian, rather than French!)
When I read the article and got to the bit where all those objections to the mosque were listed ... i.e. terrorism and crime and so on, it made me think that the vast majority of the mass shooters are white, christian(ish) males.
“It’s the job of our government to protect our culture,…”
What culture? Everything white supremacists call culture is stolen from everyone else. White bread, and pickup trucks does not a culture make. Fucking bigots.
Literally everything they accused these Muslims of are things these white Evangelicals are guilty of and have far more power to accomplish:
Terrorism.
Mass shootings.
Violence.
Spreading lies to get their way.
A culture of power and domination determined to take over the world.
"They reject our laws and customs and, as you can see by their own writings, their goal is to take over and impose their laws — not assimilate, embrace or comply with our constitution or our culture."
Which is all this is. And they don't see the irony or hypocrisy or the beam sticking out of their own eyes.
If there's a god, may they save us from these Christians.
If a mosque is illegal, then so is a church. Go back and reread the First Amendment. Then again. Then again, until you understand that it applies to everyone and not just Christians.
The primary problem is that ONE of those cults gets slid all the slack in the US because they THINK that they're in the majority. More like a plurality these days, and getting thinner by the day, which is why they're all panicked and grasping for any straw of power they can lay their hands on.
“The land could better serve the community if it was a Walmart, say, and not a religious building that doesn’t have to pay taxes.”
What do you mean a Walmart would be better? Walmart doesn’t pay taxes, demands the government cover all the costs the Mosque volunteered to cover upfront, and runs off local businesses killing towns. The only worse business model for local communities is private equity.
We all are waiting with bated breath every morning for Hemant's next article. If we all read at roughly the same pace, and all have similar thoughts, we're going to be typing similar comments at the same time. Looks like that was true today, as it is so frequently.
These lawmakers get so lost in their Christian hubris they really can't function as rational people. Oklahoma is close to being a fundamentalist Christian theocracy. The only objections they have to this Mosque being built are religious. They worry about Sharia law but would be entirely willing to impose the Christian verson of it on the people of their state, regardless of how they felt about it.
Hey, get rid of the tax exemption and, presto, problem solved!
Seems as though we have a whole bunch of scaredy-cat Christians, all panicked about a competing religion coming into their back yard. Oh, and of course, that other religion is radical and terrorists and against the Constitution and all manner of bad things. I suspect they've forgotten about the almost entirely Christian terrorists who attacked the Capitol on 6 January, 2021.
The bigotry is out there for all to see, but those opposed to the Islamic center just can't see the forest for all those goll-darn trees.
CULT = any religion other than one's own.
HERETIC = anybody who doesn't believe what a Christian Nationalist, an evangelical Christian, or an Opus Dei Catholic believes.
So I guess that means I'm a "heretic". ☺️
LOTS of heretics around here! 😁
And that's (at least partially!) why I like this substack so much!
That, and so many of the people here are truly nice people!
Glad you think so, Mark ... and just for fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQBtAA0UNVY
(LOVE the energy on this one!)
I LOVE that piece!
(As a general rule, I love Milhaud's music! He does the "Brazilian" style so well that when I was (much*) younger, I thought he was actually Brazilian, rather than French!)
*but not TOO much!
Most of us are apostates and infidels!
They ARE?!? EEEEK!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Oooh me too!
One man's heresy is another man's self-evident truth. Around and around we go.
BINGO!
When I read the article and got to the bit where all those objections to the mosque were listed ... i.e. terrorism and crime and so on, it made me think that the vast majority of the mass shooters are white, christian(ish) males.
But that doesn't count .....
Islamic Society of Tulsa has thus far not shot any unarmed women in the face.
Or launched a grenade attack on protesters.
No mass shooting either.
“It’s the job of our government to protect our culture,…”
What culture? Everything white supremacists call culture is stolen from everyone else. White bread, and pickup trucks does not a culture make. Fucking bigots.
I like honey wheat bread.
And hearty rye for Reuben sandwiches!
Heathens, the both of you!
Heathens!
You clearly haven't seen the slogan .... 'one country, one something, one heritage'??
Literally everything they accused these Muslims of are things these white Evangelicals are guilty of and have far more power to accomplish:
Terrorism.
Mass shootings.
Violence.
Spreading lies to get their way.
A culture of power and domination determined to take over the world.
"They reject our laws and customs and, as you can see by their own writings, their goal is to take over and impose their laws — not assimilate, embrace or comply with our constitution or our culture."
Which is all this is. And they don't see the irony or hypocrisy or the beam sticking out of their own eyes.
If there's a god, may they save us from these Christians.
Self-consciousness is not among their strong suits ... what few strong suits they have!
𝑂𝑛 𝐽𝑎𝑛𝑢𝑎𝑟𝑦 8, 𝐴𝑡𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑦 𝐺𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝐺𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑛𝑒𝑟 𝐷𝑟𝑢𝑚𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑑, 𝑤ℎ𝑜’𝑠 𝑏𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑎𝑛 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑤𝑖𝑠𝑒 𝑠𝑢𝑟𝑝𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑐ℎ𝑎𝑚𝑝𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝑐ℎ𝑢𝑟𝑐ℎ/𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑦𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑠, 𝑎𝑛𝑛𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑐𝑒𝑑 ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑎𝑢𝑛𝑐ℎ 𝑎𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑔𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑚𝑜𝑠𝑞𝑢𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑏𝑒 𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑒𝑔𝑎𝑙.
Hey Drummond:
If a mosque is illegal, then so is a church. Go back and reread the First Amendment. Then again. Then again, until you understand that it applies to everyone and not just Christians.
muslim & christian religionites are different manifestations of the same mental disorder.
The primary problem is that ONE of those cults gets slid all the slack in the US because they THINK that they're in the majority. More like a plurality these days, and getting thinner by the day, which is why they're all panicked and grasping for any straw of power they can lay their hands on.
Schroedinger’s Christianity: A majority when that’s convenient but most of those people aren’t True Christians when that’s convenient.
“The land could better serve the community if it was a Walmart, say, and not a religious building that doesn’t have to pay taxes.”
What do you mean a Walmart would be better? Walmart doesn’t pay taxes, demands the government cover all the costs the Mosque volunteered to cover upfront, and runs off local businesses killing towns. The only worse business model for local communities is private equity.
Anyway, I hate Walmart.
"Walmart doesn’t pay taxes, demands the government cover all the costs ..."
Wallmart is a religion?
It is to some.
At least in Arkansas it is.
You forgot that they tend to pay their staff so poorly, that they'll need top-up benefits to live.
𝐼𝑠𝑙𝑎𝑚 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑚𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑎 𝑐𝑢𝑙𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑞𝑢𝑒𝑠𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑑 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑛 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑙𝑑.
Christianity is not a religion, many said, but a culture of conquest and power determined to take over the western world. FIFY.
Oops. Sorry for the repeat. When I typed, there were no comments. After I sent my reply off, there were suddenly 5 already there,
We all are waiting with bated breath every morning for Hemant's next article. If we all read at roughly the same pace, and all have similar thoughts, we're going to be typing similar comments at the same time. Looks like that was true today, as it is so frequently.
"Some of us were alive on April 19, 1995 [when the Oklahoma City bombing occurred]."
The OKC bombing was conducted by 2 WHITE MEN, not Muslims.
White men can be Muslim. 🙂
But THESE two were not. ;P
"not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim”. Some of us were alive on April 19, 1995"
Said by someone who doesn't remember what white terrorists did in Tulsa, Oklahoma 105 years ago.
If they were alive on April 19, 1995, then they should know that the OKC bombing was not carried out by Muslims. Guess who DID carry out that bombing?
I read yesterday that the biggest threat we face is our own domestic terrorists, white supremacists.
They probably never learned about it.
Or "black wall street Tulsa massacre." Also done by christian nationalists.
These lawmakers get so lost in their Christian hubris they really can't function as rational people. Oklahoma is close to being a fundamentalist Christian theocracy. The only objections they have to this Mosque being built are religious. They worry about Sharia law but would be entirely willing to impose the Christian verson of it on the people of their state, regardless of how they felt about it.
"not all Muslims arre terrrorists, but all terrorrists are Muslim."
*ahem*
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
*Ahem* January 6, 2021, Washington DC, Capitol Building. [sigh] Those fuckers have damned short memories.
Not short memories, selective memories. Rules for thee, not for me.
"...but a culture of conquest and power..."
Said in the Islamic stronghold of, um, Oklahoma.
"Outlaw mosques."
What was that again about ISLAM being "incompatible with our Constitution?"
"Islam is not a religion, many said, but a culture of conquest and power determined to take over the western world."
Muslims constantly "lie to get their way."
Projection in 4DX.
EDIT Joe King beat me to the first paragraph.
IMAX level projection, not even subtle.