Another sexual predator who got away with it for far too long by hiding behind his Bible and/or clerical collar. You can only wonder how may egregious sexual predators never got caught because civil and religious authorities all lined up to protect the preachers. She had to wait far too long for justice, but if there is an upside here it is that victims like her are now being listened to and not persecuted for threatening a preacher's good name.
And he will continue to get away with it. If he serves the full 12 years, he will still be near retirement age with no job skills and no money, but that won't stop him from getting on the Public Apology to the Ceiling circuit and raking in the cash as a televangelist.
Here's a question: Does Pennsylvania have a protocol for labeling someone like Fenton as a sexual predator, and if so, is he being declared as such by the court that convicted him?
Sarah - what you did took great courage and remarkable character. I hope that other young women who have suffered at the hands of these disgusting pedophiles will now come forward and tell their harrowing stories that will hopefully lead to prosecutions and incarcerations. Thank you.
When I taught h.s., one of the teachers in my department was caught with child pornography on his computer. He was fired, but no charges were brought. So he simply moved to another state and is now teaching again. You're right; some of them continue to get away with it.
Where was the biblical god when Sarah Carr was dragged through hell for years by one of his spokesman? Assuming he exsts, did he want this to happen?
Yet Christians will tell you that religion, whatever its shortcomings, at least instills morality. I give that lie a hearty guffaw before spitting in the face of anyone uttering it.
Though, I don’t agree his sentence will be enough to protect other children from him, and we have no idea what he has done in Australia, if it brings Sarah comfort and closure, I’m satisfied.
Sarah has exhibited more courage and grace than anyone should ever have to. Good luck and I hope your life is just as you hope it will be.
Six to twelve years? Seems light, especially since many of his coreligionists would like to see the LGBTQ community executed for just existing. I hope he at least serves the full twelve.
This sentence is more important now that Trump is president and the Supreme Court is full of Catholic nutcases. Especially given that Republicans seem to be fixated on LB GT Q + people as "groomers". This is a reminder of who the true groomers are, not that Republicans will take a huge amount of notice, but it can be shoved in their faces.
I know, but there are relatively sensible ones. My SIL is Catholic and doesn't push it on anyone, which is just as well as if she did I'd have to give her a piece of my mind, and I haven't got that much to spare anymore.
I think what frightens me the most about Sarah's story is I very well know that I could have easily been the same. This system of teaching little girls obedience from the cradle then insisting they need to deny men/boys intercourse until marriage is working as intended; churches have had 𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑠 to address this problem and exactly zip has been done about it. I got lucky, and I know that my parents probably would not have put a stop to anything such a predator did nor would I have likely complained at the age of 14. Sarah's courage and strength coming forward with her story is remarkable, and I am delighted to hear her attacker is finally having to deal with at least some of the consequences of his actions.
And I am so glad that this is not your story, Whitney! But if I know anything, it’s that the damage from being in such a toxic belief system still hits hard. I’m sorry for that! (And glad you’re out!)
Sarah. Hold your head high and have faith and belief in yourself. Look at the courage you found within yourself to come forward in spite of the training you had to be subdued. And look at what you are accomplishing for others. If your thoughts bring you down when you think of your past and the way the abuse occurred remember who you are now. And say it to yourself. Look in the mirror and talk to yourself. You have my respect and that of other commenters here.
“She now believed that if God spoke to you about someone else, it needed to resonate with what the Lord told the other person. If there were mixed signals, someone wasn’t getting the right message.“
I’m sure that sounds good to her, whatever she needs to get along.
But we all know that in a situation like this who is getting the wrong message from god will always be the woman or child, you know, the victim. It still doesn’t protect girls in the church from men like him. It would have done nothing for her sister, her parents thought it was right, the preacher was able to be convinced it was right, so it happened despite it being complete crap.
FINALLY. After abusing Sarah Carr systematically, then MARRYING HER (avec blessing of his church!!!), emigrating to Australia, and being extradited back to the US to face the music, this bastard is finally getting his comeuppance. Frankly, it's a pity that Fred Hoover isn't around to get his as well, since he's easily culpable for enabling the relationship between Fenton and Carr. I shouldn't wonder that a civil suit might lie between Carr and that church.
And this is just ONE INSTANCE. How many other women have been violated by so-called "holy men," and how many boys and youths, for that matter? Crimes like this deserve far more exposure than they get, and sadly, It's going to take more than a blog entry from Hemant to get that done.
He didn’t actually go through with marrying her, he got sick, told her god withdrew his favor of her and skipped town. She was told she wasn’t worthy anymore, which is a pretty shitty thing to say to someone. But she did dodge a bullet with not marrying him.
I would think it would be an even worse thing to do to a girl who had been conditioned since birth to believe her only worth was in relation to her husband.
In other words she got too old to mess with any longer. That vacuous scumbag. I usually try not to resort to name calling, but in this case, I'll make an exception.
The fact that this was acceptable to others is what disturbs me the most. It was made acceptable by repeating the crap, time after time, after time, that has made me understand "say it enough and people will believe it". That isn't in the Bible. No one has a direct line to this god that they believe in. It's just made up shit. I hope Sarah can move forward without any of the burden she's carried for so long. I'm sorry for any woman of any religious sect who sees herself as "less" when it comes to men. And sorry that Sarah had to go through this to come to the conclusion that religion did her no godly favors
All designations are true descriptions of who they are and how they act. A redneck would be very upset with my unflattering opinion about their dear leader and company. I would remind them that free speech is not just for inbred, loud, obnoxious, self-righteous, arrogant, racist, sexist, xenophobic Christian wackjobs.
That could be used as Trump’s FBI code name. Why not both! Even overweight, inbred, brain dead swamp rat in a badly made man-clone with a very bad tan and even worst cheap industrial made toupee, except that would be long to say over the transmitter. True description though.
Really, I seriously thought that was a very bad toupee. Either case, you would think someone who claims to be a billionaire would be able to afford a better hairstyle.
My, my so quiet here! Where are all the posters from the last article that were so concern about protecting women and children from transgender people. I will tell you; those posters (transphobia posters) won’t be here, because they don’t really care about protecting women and children; they (transphobia posters) just use that excuse to attack and degrade transgender people. Hypocrisy is their motto.
This pastor abuse the Sarah Carr, yet it’s non believers that are immoral. I am starting to wonder if Christianity is a new definition for child abuse. The pastor would get a longer prison sentence if he wouldn’t be a Christian (My bets are he will not serve his full sentence because of Christian privilege). This pastor should get a least 40 years without any chance of parole, but then I am just an atheist.
Those TERFs and haters, have a google alert for all things Trans, that is why they come and swarm like flies on effluent, on any Trans-supportive posts. They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Sadly, this type of scenario plays out daily in our churches. They certainly are not safe places for children. Some churches may not abuse their bodies, but they all certainly abuse their minds and psyches.
This exactly why I hate homeschooling. Germany does not allow homeschooling, except in extreme circumstances, such as medical conditions. Yes there are good homeschooling programs, but way too many "programs" are excuses for children to endure physical, and/or mental, and/or educational abuse.
The other day I read about a mother who is "homeschooling"; her daughter is over five years old and can't tie her shoes. "She's just not interested in learning," is the Mother's excuse. There's the "high school graduate" who couldn't write her name. There was a "homeschooling" family in my neighborhood where the kids spent hours outside playing every day. I've read many other similar stories.
"Homeschooling" families need much more oversight from the local school and other authorities. If you want to travel with your children, that's one thing, but using "homeschooling" without being sure the children are actually schooled hurts the child, and shouldn't happen.
It's bound to get worse. There will be more parents taking their kids out of public schools that are being starved for resources. Then there is the problem of administrators, teachers, and other parents who think bullying is okay. A lack of resources for students with learning and physical challenges. Then there are the parents afraid of "woke" schools that might teach their kids the USA isn't perfect, nor is it "God's" Chosen Country.
Sarah Carr was victimized because Evangelicalism and conservative politicians created an atmosphere in which women were not trusted with decisions over their own bodies, and religious men were unaccountable. This story of her abuser's plea deal comes the same day that the Great Psycho will sign executive orders ending DEI and enshrining white Christian males as the only arbiters of fact or the law -- according to the fascists now in control. What could possibly go wrong?
Another sexual predator who got away with it for far too long by hiding behind his Bible and/or clerical collar. You can only wonder how may egregious sexual predators never got caught because civil and religious authorities all lined up to protect the preachers. She had to wait far too long for justice, but if there is an upside here it is that victims like her are now being listened to and not persecuted for threatening a preacher's good name.
And he will continue to get away with it. If he serves the full 12 years, he will still be near retirement age with no job skills and no money, but that won't stop him from getting on the Public Apology to the Ceiling circuit and raking in the cash as a televangelist.
Here's a question: Does Pennsylvania have a protocol for labeling someone like Fenton as a sexual predator, and if so, is he being declared as such by the court that convicted him?
THEY DAMNED WELL SHOULD!
Yes! He will register under Megan’s law for life. I’m told with lifetime registration comes quarterly reporting.
OUTSTANDING ... and thank you for joining the gang here, Sarah! We appreciate your input!
Sarah - what you did took great courage and remarkable character. I hope that other young women who have suffered at the hands of these disgusting pedophiles will now come forward and tell their harrowing stories that will hopefully lead to prosecutions and incarcerations. Thank you.
All the love and support to you, and much respect, for your bravery in coming forth, and your work helping other victims.
He has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. If he gets out and doesn't register at his new residence, it's back to jail for him.
Fingers crossed.
That's what the sex offender registry is for.
Pennsyltucky? Nah.
When I taught h.s., one of the teachers in my department was caught with child pornography on his computer. He was fired, but no charges were brought. So he simply moved to another state and is now teaching again. You're right; some of them continue to get away with it.
WTAF?! Isn't child porn a federal crime and a felony?
Where was the biblical god when Sarah Carr was dragged through hell for years by one of his spokesman? Assuming he exsts, did he want this to happen?
Yet Christians will tell you that religion, whatever its shortcomings, at least instills morality. I give that lie a hearty guffaw before spitting in the face of anyone uttering it.
God has a wonderful plan for everyone, and for pastors, that includes blowjobs from underage girls.
Who are you to question God’s will and God’s plan?
I have some moral, including not harming other people against their will. So yes I have a privilege to question any god, imaginary or not.
Of course I agree.
How many prayers do you suppose were offered up during the Holocaust? God is the hide and seek champion of the universe.
You may have already seen this, but the Jews of Auschwitz put God on trial. Here’s the verdict…
youtu.be/dx7irFN2gdI
Though, I don’t agree his sentence will be enough to protect other children from him, and we have no idea what he has done in Australia, if it brings Sarah comfort and closure, I’m satisfied.
Sarah has exhibited more courage and grace than anyone should ever have to. Good luck and I hope your life is just as you hope it will be.
Six to twelve years? Seems light, especially since many of his coreligionists would like to see the LGBTQ community executed for just existing. I hope he at least serves the full twelve.
Any bets that Sarah shows up at his parole hearings? I'd call that one a slam-dunk!
I will contribute to her airfare!
I'd like to see her as his character witness in his Australian trial. (A man can dream)
This sentence is more important now that Trump is president and the Supreme Court is full of Catholic nutcases. Especially given that Republicans seem to be fixated on LB GT Q + people as "groomers". This is a reminder of who the true groomers are, not that Republicans will take a huge amount of notice, but it can be shoved in their faces.
I think "kkkatlik nutcases" is redundant?
I know, but there are relatively sensible ones. My SIL is Catholic and doesn't push it on anyone, which is just as well as if she did I'd have to give her a piece of my mind, and I haven't got that much to spare anymore.
Every accusation is a confession with these people.
About #@(* time!
I think what frightens me the most about Sarah's story is I very well know that I could have easily been the same. This system of teaching little girls obedience from the cradle then insisting they need to deny men/boys intercourse until marriage is working as intended; churches have had 𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑠 to address this problem and exactly zip has been done about it. I got lucky, and I know that my parents probably would not have put a stop to anything such a predator did nor would I have likely complained at the age of 14. Sarah's courage and strength coming forward with her story is remarkable, and I am delighted to hear her attacker is finally having to deal with at least some of the consequences of his actions.
And I am so glad that this is not your story, Whitney! But if I know anything, it’s that the damage from being in such a toxic belief system still hits hard. I’m sorry for that! (And glad you’re out!)
Sarah. Hold your head high and have faith and belief in yourself. Look at the courage you found within yourself to come forward in spite of the training you had to be subdued. And look at what you are accomplishing for others. If your thoughts bring you down when you think of your past and the way the abuse occurred remember who you are now. And say it to yourself. Look in the mirror and talk to yourself. You have my respect and that of other commenters here.
“She now believed that if God spoke to you about someone else, it needed to resonate with what the Lord told the other person. If there were mixed signals, someone wasn’t getting the right message.“
I’m sure that sounds good to her, whatever she needs to get along.
But we all know that in a situation like this who is getting the wrong message from god will always be the woman or child, you know, the victim. It still doesn’t protect girls in the church from men like him. It would have done nothing for her sister, her parents thought it was right, the preacher was able to be convinced it was right, so it happened despite it being complete crap.
FINALLY. After abusing Sarah Carr systematically, then MARRYING HER (avec blessing of his church!!!), emigrating to Australia, and being extradited back to the US to face the music, this bastard is finally getting his comeuppance. Frankly, it's a pity that Fred Hoover isn't around to get his as well, since he's easily culpable for enabling the relationship between Fenton and Carr. I shouldn't wonder that a civil suit might lie between Carr and that church.
And this is just ONE INSTANCE. How many other women have been violated by so-called "holy men," and how many boys and youths, for that matter? Crimes like this deserve far more exposure than they get, and sadly, It's going to take more than a blog entry from Hemant to get that done.
He didn’t actually go through with marrying her, he got sick, told her god withdrew his favor of her and skipped town. She was told she wasn’t worthy anymore, which is a pretty shitty thing to say to someone. But she did dodge a bullet with not marrying him.
I would think it would be an even worse thing to do to a girl who had been conditioned since birth to believe her only worth was in relation to her husband.
You aren’t wrong!! It took awhile to work through that. I still have moments where I realize more fully that I have worth outside of a man.
In other words she got too old to mess with any longer. That vacuous scumbag. I usually try not to resort to name calling, but in this case, I'll make an exception.
Once she was legal, the thrill was gone, and yes she aged out.
Maybe by then, she was too old for his taste.
Fred Hoover is with God now. He gets a pass.
Where is his grave? I need to pee.
The fact that this was acceptable to others is what disturbs me the most. It was made acceptable by repeating the crap, time after time, after time, that has made me understand "say it enough and people will believe it". That isn't in the Bible. No one has a direct line to this god that they believe in. It's just made up shit. I hope Sarah can move forward without any of the burden she's carried for so long. I'm sorry for any woman of any religious sect who sees herself as "less" when it comes to men. And sorry that Sarah had to go through this to come to the conclusion that religion did her no godly favors
OT CIA designation for Donald Trump is MICROPENIS
CIA designation for J.D Vance is COUCHHUMPER
CIA designation for Elon Musk is MINIDICK
All designations are true descriptions of who they are and how they act. A redneck would be very upset with my unflattering opinion about their dear leader and company. I would remind them that free speech is not just for inbred, loud, obnoxious, self-righteous, arrogant, racist, sexist, xenophobic Christian wackjobs.
I thought Trump’s was deadmanwalking? Go figure.
That could be used as Trump’s FBI code name. Why not both! Even overweight, inbred, brain dead swamp rat in a badly made man-clone with a very bad tan and even worst cheap industrial made toupee, except that would be long to say over the transmitter. True description though.
No toupee. Comb-over.
Really, I seriously thought that was a very bad toupee. Either case, you would think someone who claims to be a billionaire would be able to afford a better hairstyle.
Trevor Noah said "We know he needs the money, he wears a 'discount weave'."
Double comb over.
😂😂😂
My, my so quiet here! Where are all the posters from the last article that were so concern about protecting women and children from transgender people. I will tell you; those posters (transphobia posters) won’t be here, because they don’t really care about protecting women and children; they (transphobia posters) just use that excuse to attack and degrade transgender people. Hypocrisy is their motto.
This pastor abuse the Sarah Carr, yet it’s non believers that are immoral. I am starting to wonder if Christianity is a new definition for child abuse. The pastor would get a longer prison sentence if he wouldn’t be a Christian (My bets are he will not serve his full sentence because of Christian privilege). This pastor should get a least 40 years without any chance of parole, but then I am just an atheist.
Not immortal. Immoral. They will be immortal when they are burning in hell forever, but at the moment, they are quite mortal.
It was relatively quiet on the previous article. One that was up for 3 days.
Maybe carrying their double standard into battle yet again was too much for them.
I block them all, let them play with themselves.
Christains spell pedophile Y O U T H P A S T O R.
Those TERFs and haters, have a google alert for all things Trans, that is why they come and swarm like flies on effluent, on any Trans-supportive posts. They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Sadly, this type of scenario plays out daily in our churches. They certainly are not safe places for children. Some churches may not abuse their bodies, but they all certainly abuse their minds and psyches.
So we have to circle back to the venerated Catholic Church as a leading light for churchian sex abuse for millennia.
Best wishes to Sarah Carr. The only wish for Fenton is that he never gets out of prison alive, however that may happen.
Preferably by an extradition request from Queensland for the crimes he has almost certainly perpetrated there.
This exactly why I hate homeschooling. Germany does not allow homeschooling, except in extreme circumstances, such as medical conditions. Yes there are good homeschooling programs, but way too many "programs" are excuses for children to endure physical, and/or mental, and/or educational abuse.
The other day I read about a mother who is "homeschooling"; her daughter is over five years old and can't tie her shoes. "She's just not interested in learning," is the Mother's excuse. There's the "high school graduate" who couldn't write her name. There was a "homeschooling" family in my neighborhood where the kids spent hours outside playing every day. I've read many other similar stories.
"Homeschooling" families need much more oversight from the local school and other authorities. If you want to travel with your children, that's one thing, but using "homeschooling" without being sure the children are actually schooled hurts the child, and shouldn't happen.
Kids in school are tested regularly. Make home schooled kids take the same tests IN A SCHOOL SETTING.
It's bound to get worse. There will be more parents taking their kids out of public schools that are being starved for resources. Then there is the problem of administrators, teachers, and other parents who think bullying is okay. A lack of resources for students with learning and physical challenges. Then there are the parents afraid of "woke" schools that might teach their kids the USA isn't perfect, nor is it "God's" Chosen Country.
OT: Trump says in his inaugural speech (as reported by CNN; I'll be damned if I'll watch it live) that we're entering into a golden age.
More like iron pyrite.
Or maybe a gilded age, do we not remember how that one ended? Apparently not.
MORE tax-free billionaires.
GMTA.
Golden toilet age.
A Russian hooker in every pot.
And urine instead of water in that pot.
I slept through it? Good start.
Figures, he fucked up saying "Gilded age."
"Gilded cage"?
https://folksongandmusichall.com/index.php/only-a-bird-in-a-gilded-cage/
Or is that for the rest of us?
https://youtu.be/q918fs4RAto
Then you missed the best part: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c4b8dbc5e5bd491d17b9b53f8854b03ad940d947e7678fd11a9c3820e2361e58.png
Oh, BER-ROTHER! [sigh]
My bride had it on. There were equal parts shouting at the TV and laughing uproariously.
Golden shower.
Sarah Carr was victimized because Evangelicalism and conservative politicians created an atmosphere in which women were not trusted with decisions over their own bodies, and religious men were unaccountable. This story of her abuser's plea deal comes the same day that the Great Psycho will sign executive orders ending DEI and enshrining white Christian males as the only arbiters of fact or the law -- according to the fascists now in control. What could possibly go wrong?