Somehow, the word 'unbelievable' doesn't even come close to describing this level of stupidity. I'm old enough to remember the days before the Polio vaccine, and why anyone would want to return to those days is beyond me. I think a lot of people on the religious right view science as something you believe in like a religion. Ignore religion at your leisure, ignore science at your peril.
I remember getting the polio vaccine in a sugar cube at my catholic parochial school. You know, back when christians actually gave a damn about their neighbors and didn't treat science as a competing 'religion.' MAGA is nothing but a death cult.
A few years ago during covid, attorney Bradley Moss posted on twitter: "It's a good thing we didn't have the internet when we were eradicating polio and small pox." Next thing you know these moronic 'conservative' fanatics will be pushing to bring back bleeding to get rid of "ill humors."
That world was the early medieval period where extreme religious beliefs and traditions held power over all aspects of society, and people died very young and early!
When I was 9 or 10 I would take a victim of polio out for walks. I pushed his wheelchair to the end of the block and back a couple of times. His wife gave me a dime.
People who had close contact with polio or its victims understood the breakthrough that polio vaccines represented and were thankful for them. The problem with too many people these days is that if something doesn't or hasn't affected them or theirs, they don't give a damn about it and what it might do to others. That's what passes for christianity today. It was lovely of you to take that man out for walks. You were a good egg even at 9 or 10. Bravo!
"...a personal choice to decline a vaccine may also affect others, including infants who are too young to be vaccinated or people who are immunocompromised. But a person’s right to reject a vaccine supersedes those risks,...'
Yup. Sounds about christian to me. "My right to be a selfish asshole supersedes my moral duty to love my neighbor and protect the vulnerable." The fact that this 'pastor' wasn't immediately stuck by lightening is all the proof we need that his religion is bogus.
The selfishness of these pseudo-christians is disgusting. And they actually think the jesus of the buy-bull was like this? Their reading comprehension is sorely lacking.
We were fighting a global war against a deadly virus, with herd immunity trough vaccinations as our only valid option. What is your name for someone who knowingly helps the enemy slip through our defense lines?
I call them a goddamm,jeseezyboy sucks a dead donkey’s dick, brain dead, inbred, bonehead, smeghead Trumpyboy supporting Christian asshole! Someone else would call them traitors to humanity!
Milhoan sounds like one of those people who says, "Hey I'm feeling much better now so I can quit taking my antipsychotic meds!" The the level of irresponsibility represented by his statement is positively staggering. He would take immunology back over 70 years, and erase the enormous strides we have taken to eliminate the kind of diseases that were all too prevalent in the first half of the 20th century.
We can thank him and RFKJr for the measles outbreaks that are currently plaguing the United States. That ball is in your court, fellas.
This abhorrent and stupid guy needs to go to stay at a clinic in any developing world country and learn how poor folk there will walk all day in tropical heat, borrow money and then queue for hours in the sun to get their baby/small child vaccinated against preventable childhood illnesses. The same diseases that have already caused the deaths of all their slightly older siblings who've died under 5yo. These parents are naturally desperate for this latest child to stay alive. I read of a Nepali clinic claiming lots of conversions - but the truth was that it offered free TB vaccinations and parents who'd lost all their previous babies to the disease, came there and professed conversion so their child got that jab and could live longer than 5 years. I'm sure I'd probably have done the same in those circumstances. Miloan presumably has kids, g/kids or nephews and nieces, good to know he thinks they're expendable.
You get an iron lung, you get an iron lung, you get a.....hhhhh, sorry but your claim to life saving medicine has been denied due to pre existing conditions
OT: I have to repost this here. After watching so many Republicans hem and haw in response to straight-up questions from Congressional committee members, watching Jack Smith deliver no-nonsense answers is so refreshing ... well, have a look:
Lemme put it this way: I LIKE JACK SMITH! He is the utter antithesis of Donald Trump in more ways than I could enumerate. Thing is, too, there are more like him out there, I'm pretty darn sure.
Somehow, the word 'unbelievable' doesn't even come close to describing this level of stupidity. I'm old enough to remember the days before the Polio vaccine, and why anyone would want to return to those days is beyond me. I think a lot of people on the religious right view science as something you believe in like a religion. Ignore religion at your leisure, ignore science at your peril.
I remember getting the polio vaccine in a sugar cube at my catholic parochial school. You know, back when christians actually gave a damn about their neighbors and didn't treat science as a competing 'religion.' MAGA is nothing but a death cult.
MAGA isn't a death cult.
They're a death to everyone else cult.
A plague cult.
Definitely.
I don't mind them self-selecting out of the gene pool. Not only does it help rid the pool of trash, they find their purpose in life:
To serve as an example of what not to do.
Unfortunately, a whole bunch of innocent people would die also. That the tragedy!
Let's Go, Darwin!
All religions are a threat to humanity!
I remember. I asked if I could have another one...
And comparing the smallpox sore on my arm to other kids.
Imagine the world these "conservatives" and fanatics want to resurrect- one jn which polio, smallpox, etc are epidemic.
Science saves lives, religion kills.
A few years ago during covid, attorney Bradley Moss posted on twitter: "It's a good thing we didn't have the internet when we were eradicating polio and small pox." Next thing you know these moronic 'conservative' fanatics will be pushing to bring back bleeding to get rid of "ill humors."
I wouldn’t be surprise if Christian fascist would advocate for that!
That world was the early medieval period where extreme religious beliefs and traditions held power over all aspects of society, and people died very young and early!
I got the Salk vaccine that was a series of three shots. I got the Sabin vaccine on the sugar cubes later.
Ahh, the good days when parents had the sense to get their kids vaccinated. Sigh.....
When I was 9 or 10 I would take a victim of polio out for walks. I pushed his wheelchair to the end of the block and back a couple of times. His wife gave me a dime.
People who had close contact with polio or its victims understood the breakthrough that polio vaccines represented and were thankful for them. The problem with too many people these days is that if something doesn't or hasn't affected them or theirs, they don't give a damn about it and what it might do to others. That's what passes for christianity today. It was lovely of you to take that man out for walks. You were a good egg even at 9 or 10. Bravo!
The inability to empathize with anything a person isn't being affected by is a defining characteristic of conservatism.
Which is becoming increasingly hard to tell from malignant narcissism.
"Conservative" at one time meant almost the opposite of what it has mutated into today. ("libertarian"/MAGA)
That's why Lincoln is historically misclassified as a "Republican." Many other relevant examples are available.
We must all be around the same age group. You know you are getting old when you can remember getting the sugar cube vaccines and black and white TV.
"...a personal choice to decline a vaccine may also affect others, including infants who are too young to be vaccinated or people who are immunocompromised. But a person’s right to reject a vaccine supersedes those risks,...'
Yup. Sounds about christian to me. "My right to be a selfish asshole supersedes my moral duty to love my neighbor and protect the vulnerable." The fact that this 'pastor' wasn't immediately stuck by lightening is all the proof we need that his religion is bogus.
^^^^THIS ^^^^
The selfishness of these pseudo-christians is disgusting. And they actually think the jesus of the buy-bull was like this? Their reading comprehension is sorely lacking.
I think you give 'em too much credit, Jen. They only pound their buy-bulls; they've never cracked the spine on one.
"I don't like established science..."
Then why the hell do you allegedly practice medicine? Don't like science? Then get out of the business and stick to selling snakeoil full time.
Needs to look up the word 'established', too.
Don't cover your mouth when you cough! You're depriving others of an improved immune system.
Stop signs should be optional. All traffic laws actually, they just get in the ways of freedom of movement and create traffic jams.
Seat belts? Optional.
Sitting during landings should be optional.
Circuit breakers are annoying, get rid of them.
Fire alarms never saved my life. They just shriek every time something burns in the oven.
Get rid of ground wires, they're just unnecessary costs foisted on us by Big Cabling.
Airport security is just a time waster.
Uranium is a right.
Bring back leaded gas.
And lead paint.
I have to respect Boeing, they proved that you can cut costs on extraneous things.
Stockton Rush (OceanGate) was right, "Fuck safety, it just gets in the way of innovation."
How am I going to build up an immunity to iocane powder when it's outlawed?
Washing your hands ... well, too many people don't anyway.
"Science is only what I observe," he said.
Can I send my mother who has post-polio syndrome over to kick his butt, so he can observe that?
Never saw one of my now deceased parents walk since they had polio a year before the vaccine came out and then almost 60 years of post polio.
My wife's mother had polio as a child, and spent the rest of her life in a wheelchair until she died of post-polio syndrome.
My mother was very lucky.
Poor victim Kirk Milhoan screaming, “My body my choice!”
All of these looney tunes (anti-abortionists as well) should have no place in medicine or near any hospital, period.
Please tell Milhoan that medical science is built on facts, not opinions. And certainly not Christian evangelical opinions!
I suspect he's too busy being in love with the sound of his own voice.
This asshole can fuck right off.
There’s the problem right there. They keep reproducing..
We were fighting a global war against a deadly virus, with herd immunity trough vaccinations as our only valid option. What is your name for someone who knowingly helps the enemy slip through our defense lines?
Ummm ... starts with T, ends with R, and has "RAITO" in the middle? 😁
Trump supporter?
A dead Trump supporters if the fuckwits don’t get vaccinated!
I call them a goddamm,jeseezyboy sucks a dead donkey’s dick, brain dead, inbred, bonehead, smeghead Trumpyboy supporting Christian asshole! Someone else would call them traitors to humanity!
Milhoan sounds like one of those people who says, "Hey I'm feeling much better now so I can quit taking my antipsychotic meds!" The the level of irresponsibility represented by his statement is positively staggering. He would take immunology back over 70 years, and erase the enormous strides we have taken to eliminate the kind of diseases that were all too prevalent in the first half of the 20th century.
We can thank him and RFKJr for the measles outbreaks that are currently plaguing the United States. That ball is in your court, fellas.
This abhorrent and stupid guy needs to go to stay at a clinic in any developing world country and learn how poor folk there will walk all day in tropical heat, borrow money and then queue for hours in the sun to get their baby/small child vaccinated against preventable childhood illnesses. The same diseases that have already caused the deaths of all their slightly older siblings who've died under 5yo. These parents are naturally desperate for this latest child to stay alive. I read of a Nepali clinic claiming lots of conversions - but the truth was that it offered free TB vaccinations and parents who'd lost all their previous babies to the disease, came there and professed conversion so their child got that jab and could live longer than 5 years. I'm sure I'd probably have done the same in those circumstances. Miloan presumably has kids, g/kids or nephews and nieces, good to know he thinks they're expendable.
I willing to bet this pastor sees women and children as property and an extension of his existence, and not as individuals with rights of their own!
As he is pro-choice about vaccines, I have every confidence that he is pro-choice about abortion as well.
You made a funny!😄
If this pastor is as pro choice on abortion as a lion is pro vegan in its meal choice! 😇
A Pediatric Cardiologist who makes vaccines optional is a quack. Do not risk your children with quackery.
You get an iron lung, you get an iron lung, you get a.....hhhhh, sorry but your claim to life saving medicine has been denied due to pre existing conditions
Aussie balls.
https://scontent-ord5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/619843165_1448551966630426_7041851015151708233_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=7kpCZDDMnggQ7kNvwGRByqO&_nc_oc=AdmxAlbuPvu0HhluGs4qW13LTJz2kLdoOeM6uGswtuLiXxrxBiXGwCWjPmtKL3B-DaM&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-2.xx&_nc_gid=eNxlSu-GBmR_96KW5A7wyQ&oh=00_AfrLwOizByGe2p-CR4l4VRG0Ic6j3jbP-mBTsdNvfTf1ZQ&oe=697ACEFD
Different Aussie balls. 😇
https://au.news.yahoo.com/foul-poo-balls-wash-australian-081737308.html?guccounter=1
Did Trumpyboy dropped those, if so he should go to church a pray for help!😇
Bravo, bro.
OT: I have to repost this here. After watching so many Republicans hem and haw in response to straight-up questions from Congressional committee members, watching Jack Smith deliver no-nonsense answers is so refreshing ... well, have a look:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GD3k82LZ99A
He got game.
Lemme put it this way: I LIKE JACK SMITH! He is the utter antithesis of Donald Trump in more ways than I could enumerate. Thing is, too, there are more like him out there, I'm pretty darn sure.