It’s entirely possible that the only reason she was pushing for the rape charges was because of the custody dispute. It’s also entirely irrelevant. That’s the point of age of consent and statutory rape laws - the underage person is not considered able to consent, no matter what they think.
The saddest and most infuriating part is that I've read another story of the same situation, except it went the other way because the male was NOT a pastor.
With the lack of new FA content before now, I was mostly gone and never got to comment on the death of the legendary Betty White. Although the following has now been public knowledge for a few days, I thought I'd post this story about Betty telling racists to stick it back when I was 2 years old:
" 'Live with it': Betty White defied racist demands in 1954"
Fortunately, my state recently put an end to allowing rapists who impregnated their victims to share custody of the baby. It’s disgusting that this practice was allowed to happen in the first place. It’s bad enough that these women were raped, but being forced to have their rapists continue to intrude into their lives and having to share custody with them adds insult to injury.
She was 14, and even if her motivation for pressing charges is to gain custody of their teenage daughter, he should still be able to be found guilty of rape. The motivation of the victim does not change the facts of the case.
I’m still just as appalled by this case as I was I October when we first heard he got away with it. And the mother’s explanation of events changes nothing except her own culpability in abetting the rape. She’s victim blaming. A child cannot enter into a contract for any other reason, why should she be getting married, even if a pregnancy and child is involved. All this does is perpetuate the acceptance of rape in our society.
The fact is this man raped a 14 year old girl and now has unfettered access to another 14 year old girl and everyone who could intervene is pleased he is not being held accountable.
"On a side note, it was very troubling that WTVY described the “relationship” — which, again, began when the victim was 14 — as a “consensual sexual relationship.” When you’re 14 and the other person is 24, consent in any meaningful sense of the word goes out the window. It was rape.)"
I think that every adult that knew about this and did nothing to protect that child should rot in prison. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but consider how many black men have been lynched, murdered, for allegedly looking "the wrong way" at a white woman, or for fake rape accusations. But, here we are, hello, Mr. preacher! Thank you for marrying my slutty daughter. The family honor is restored, we are a good, decent Christian family again! Rape? What rape? It's not the preacher's fault that she didn't keep her legs crossed!
When I was 14, I was in Junior High school in the early 80s. We had just completed a sex education lecture 2 years earlier in grade 6. One girl I knew had gotten pregnant that year "by an older man", whom we kids all assumed was a high school boy she was dating. Someone whom she had never mentioned to anyone before, forcing her to drop out of school so she could care for the baby once she was almost due. Like most kids at that school, she came from an Evangelical Christian family.
She was extremely shy, like I was, so we had a friendly connection because we both belonged to the small clique that hung out at the school library and mostly avoided the other kids during recess. Sometimes she would come to school in tears and often would say that her parents hated her. Now that I'm a grownup, I am suspecting that she was being abused by both her parents and whomever she was "dating".
To my knowledge she never returned to high school and probably had to get a GED and a job while caring for her child. I wonder if she was in the same situation as Ash? The school was full of mandatory reporters, but I got the impression that CPS was ever involved because the parents were seen as good Christians.
---because the parents were seen as good Christians.---
This makes me mad the most. They'll defend other Christians because they're Christians and therefore cannot do evil. It is totally inconceivable to them.
Never mind about ethical, it's completely against Christian morality – in theory. Honoured more in the breach than the observance perhaps, but doesn't he owe her parents a couple of goats or something?
Bah, forcing a woman to marry her rapist is biblical. It's the original "you break it you buy it" because rape wasn't considered a crime against the woman, but a property crime against her father
It’s a nice loophole for the proponents of child marriage. That way, they can have sex with underage girls, and don’t have to worry about getting changed with statutory rape.
It’s entirely possible that the only reason she was pushing for the rape charges was because of the custody dispute. It’s also entirely irrelevant. That’s the point of age of consent and statutory rape laws - the underage person is not considered able to consent, no matter what they think.
The saddest and most infuriating part is that I've read another story of the same situation, except it went the other way because the male was NOT a pastor.
So this is an extra strike against religion.
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Majorie Traitor Greene got her Twitter account banned permanently. FAFO.
Plus a facebook suspension for 1 week --- you see that?
Missed it. Thanks for the catch.
Still has her congressional account.
Can Twitter suspend a congressional account ?
Yes. Private company. They suspended Trump when he was still in office.
They unsuspended that account less than 12 hours later, as well as "disappearing" the poor sop who tried to enforce Twitter's TOS.
I haven't seen that. Got a link?
The guy who did it was named Bahtiyar Duysak and he claimed the suspension was a 'mistake' and 'just random.'
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/twitter-employee-donald-trump-account-suspend-german-man-san-francisco-bahtiyar-duysak-a8084066.html
Hmm. I think must have mixed these two up.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41854482
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55569604
If she uses her congressional account to violate Twitter's rules, they'll ban that account as well.
Oh please, Marjorie. Please continue to lie using your congressional account.
Ha, I thought I was the only one to call her that.
I maybe might have stolen it. :)
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With the lack of new FA content before now, I was mostly gone and never got to comment on the death of the legendary Betty White. Although the following has now been public knowledge for a few days, I thought I'd post this story about Betty telling racists to stick it back when I was 2 years old:
" 'Live with it': Betty White defied racist demands in 1954"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/live-with-it-betty-white-defied-racist-demands-in-1954/ar-AASkbxL
Wanna bet that some of those racist demands came from Alabama?
nothing is sacred to these anti vaxxers assholes.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-325298831235
Nothing but their sacred right to be assholes.
“ With the lack of new FA content…”
Hey, maybe Hemant was having a great Christmas!
After a few days, I was seriously beginning to wonder if something bad had happened to him.
Either that or OnlySky had launched and I didn't get the word.
Like the childhood fear of finding out your parents had moved and not told you.
How to stick it to your evangelical parents: Arrange your clothes on your bed while you sneak away in the middle of the night.
Nope, not allowed. He must feed us ravenous beasts.
Fortunately, my state recently put an end to allowing rapists who impregnated their victims to share custody of the baby. It’s disgusting that this practice was allowed to happen in the first place. It’s bad enough that these women were raped, but being forced to have their rapists continue to intrude into their lives and having to share custody with them adds insult to injury.
It starts with the victim being denied an abortion and being forced to carry the child to term.
Women and girls can't be allowed to hide their sin. Rape victims can't get pregnant (Todd Adkin).
And this is where they got that from.
Myth That Rape Rarely Causes Pregnancy Based on a Nazi Experiment That Never Happened
https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/07/myth-that-rape-rarely-causes-pregnancy-based-on-a-nazi-experiment-that-never-happened.html
The more I learn about these sick fuck facists, the more I want their hobby club outlawed.
Codified by British law claiming women had to have an orgasm to get pregnant
And it gets worse from there.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/
Bet your bottom dollar that if any of the men who spewed that vomit could get pregnant they'd change their tune in in a hurry.
Abortionist on every corner and Plan B in every vending machine.
Idiots. Fucking idiots, every last one of them.
"What 24- or 25-year-old is going after a 16-year-old (who was actually 14)?!"
I know! Roy Moore.
Surprised he wasn't council or judge in the case.
He must be too busy finding malls he is not banned from.
Is my eye supposed to be twitching like this?
I’d be concerned if it wasn’t. My eye is twitching too.
No, it's not.
It's hard to maintain proper sight picture when one's eye is twitching. Remember BRAS¹, and don't forget to account for wind and drop.
(¹ Breathe, Relax, Aim, Squeeze.)
It is not my dominant eye that’s twitching. That one stays steady throughout.
Fair enough. Carry on. Watch your lanes. 😁
Oh my fucking god!
She was 14, and even if her motivation for pressing charges is to gain custody of their teenage daughter, he should still be able to be found guilty of rape. The motivation of the victim does not change the facts of the case.
I’m still just as appalled by this case as I was I October when we first heard he got away with it. And the mother’s explanation of events changes nothing except her own culpability in abetting the rape. She’s victim blaming. A child cannot enter into a contract for any other reason, why should she be getting married, even if a pregnancy and child is involved. All this does is perpetuate the acceptance of rape in our society.
The fact is this man raped a 14 year old girl and now has unfettered access to another 14 year old girl and everyone who could intervene is pleased he is not being held accountable.
"On a side note, it was very troubling that WTVY described the “relationship” — which, again, began when the victim was 14 — as a “consensual sexual relationship.” When you’re 14 and the other person is 24, consent in any meaningful sense of the word goes out the window. It was rape.)"
See "shithole states" and "Alabama."
See you are thinking meaningful sense and this is taking place in Alabummer that is where you made the mistake.
Alabama. The state where consent is as mythical as unicorns and Eskimos and dentists.
I think that every adult that knew about this and did nothing to protect that child should rot in prison. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but consider how many black men have been lynched, murdered, for allegedly looking "the wrong way" at a white woman, or for fake rape accusations. But, here we are, hello, Mr. preacher! Thank you for marrying my slutty daughter. The family honor is restored, we are a good, decent Christian family again! Rape? What rape? It's not the preacher's fault that she didn't keep her legs crossed!
When I was 14, I was in Junior High school in the early 80s. We had just completed a sex education lecture 2 years earlier in grade 6. One girl I knew had gotten pregnant that year "by an older man", whom we kids all assumed was a high school boy she was dating. Someone whom she had never mentioned to anyone before, forcing her to drop out of school so she could care for the baby once she was almost due. Like most kids at that school, she came from an Evangelical Christian family.
She was extremely shy, like I was, so we had a friendly connection because we both belonged to the small clique that hung out at the school library and mostly avoided the other kids during recess. Sometimes she would come to school in tears and often would say that her parents hated her. Now that I'm a grownup, I am suspecting that she was being abused by both her parents and whomever she was "dating".
To my knowledge she never returned to high school and probably had to get a GED and a job while caring for her child. I wonder if she was in the same situation as Ash? The school was full of mandatory reporters, but I got the impression that CPS was ever involved because the parents were seen as good Christians.
and the "gays" wanting to become parents is the problem.
---because the parents were seen as good Christians.---
This makes me mad the most. They'll defend other Christians because they're Christians and therefore cannot do evil. It is totally inconceivable to them.
Lesson learned: Never trust a pastor and/or religious leader no matter who they are.
It should be mandatory for them to wear their dog collars to make it easier to identify them.
I'd add an explosive charge to that collar.
A anti bark collar would be more fun and less messy.
I wish I could describe this story as unbelievable. But that would be ridiculous.
Sadly, it's the sort of thing that we've come to expect from the Cult of the Cross and their enablers.
Never mind about ethical, it's completely against Christian morality – in theory. Honoured more in the breach than the observance perhaps, but doesn't he owe her parents a couple of goats or something?
Bah, forcing a woman to marry her rapist is biblical. It's the original "you break it you buy it" because rape wasn't considered a crime against the woman, but a property crime against her father
He's a pastor.
The real life equivalent is a casino giving a rich man free money.
No prison time. Unsupervised probation. Doesn't have to register as a sex offender. Think a nonreligious person would get that kind of deal?
Christian Persecution in America(tm). What a sick joke.
If he was black he'd have been in a body bag years ago.
After a short spell of being strange fruit.
I am unfamiliar with this.
Look for Billy Holiday's "Strange Fruits" on YT
I didn't know either, until I heard about it on Joy Reid's program.
I'd heard of Billie Holiday's song years ago.
It was said she vomited backstage every time she performed that song.
I have heard the same thing, it does tend to raise the bile while listening to it.
Incoherent rage in progress...
Of course, Ala fucking Bama where child rape is subsequently excused by child marriage. Thanks, fucking Christian privilege!
It’s a nice loophole for the proponents of child marriage. That way, they can have sex with underage girls, and don’t have to worry about getting changed with statutory rape.
Keep in mind it was Republicans who FOUGHT to keep child marriage legal.
When it comes to evil and supporting it , my first thought is always rethuglikkkans and then the fact that they are are generally also kkkhristains.
How will they find wives and mistresses otherwise ?
The first new FA article in days and now I feel like punching someone. Preferably, several someones (Greathouse, Harrison and even Jett).
Christians. The very same people who claim that gay people would be horrible parents for children.
But they wouldn't be setting the proper kkkhristain example that an older wiser preacherman can give her.