There is absolutely nothing that cannot be justified in the name of religion. The Catholic church's stand on contraception doesn't elevate the status of life, it trivializes it. Like every other patriarchal misogynist organization, they have no concern for the woman what so ever.
God damn the RCC. An obscenely wealthy patriarchal organization that treats women, LGBTQs and (especially) children with contempt while shielding its own from any sort of accountability.
If you are unwilling to provide the healthcare required by your patients, you should not be in the medical field. This goes for individuals and for institutions. Best medical practices should be the priority, sincerely held religious beliefs are irrelevant.
Sincerely held religious beliefs have been killing women since their beginning, long before we called them sincerely held religious beliefs. Women aren’t allowed to be seen by men, a sincerely held religious belief, means that women can’t see a doctor at all, not for any gynecological reason, not even for a cut on their finger. Women aren’t allowed to attend school or be educated, a sincerely religious belief, means that women cannot learn to be doctors to provide care to women patients, keeping women from getting the medical attention they desperately need. It also keeps women under the thumbs of men for their basic human needs for survival. Menstrual quarantine, abortion bans, and shaming surrounding anything to do with sex and or rapes and single motherhood, all puts women’s lives in very real, very serious danger. It leads to witch hunts, and such terrible quality of life.
If I didn’t know any better, I would believe that religions were created just to make women give birth and die.
I think you're onto something with that last sentence. I could almost believe that, in their secret heart of hearts, they wish they could have women euthanised once they are past childbearing age. Isn't that what they do to brood mares who are no longer useful?
In contrast with horses, women beyond child bearing age can still be useful, while mom is busy caring for the newborn baby, grandma can prepare sandwiches for the other kids (and for the lazy husband).
There is an evolutionary purpose to human menopause. People have only just begun researching it, so no conclusions yet. But there has to be some reason women are outliving their reproductive abilities. Most mammals, and fauna in general, do not have menopause. I think elephants and some apes do, but not many others. The fact that women go through menopause proves that our purpose is greater than just shitting out babies. Also, the social orders of animals that do have menopause are matriarchal, a reason the patriarchy we suffer under is not natural.
True, but they think of women as livestock. They’ve already expressed and demostrated desires to kill brown people, trans people and LGBTQ folks. An older woman may be useful as a cook/maid/nanny but there are also elderly women who have no one. If this regime goes full-on Gilead, those are the ones who might be seen as non-productive members of society and “sent to the colonies.” Of course that probably wouldn’t apply to white men as the privileged Sons of Jacob.
SIGH as I’ve stated earlier, I reached the point where I would not put much of anything past these Slitheen monsters.
And that is why these enemies of humanity want them to die. Once they can no longer serve the death cult's purpose by being young, dumb and full of cum, constantly pumping out (preferably) male spawn, their experience makes their further existance a threat to the power of the death cultists.
This woman was assaulted when she was young. Where was your god then, RCC? If he couldn't be bothered to stop that assault then, he doesn't get a say in her life now.
Who’s to say their god wasn’t causing the assault? I mean, she didn’t say who assaulted her or where she was assaulted, it could have been a priest in church. What excuse was given to assault her? Her father owned her so he can do whatever he wants because god. There’s just so much we don’t know, but we do know that the church is setup to protect the men assaulting women and blame the women for their victimhood. And this is just another way they punish women for existing.
Of course! It's all part of God's Plan™, and if you violate God's Plan™, EVERYTHING goes KAFLOOIE! So Catholic authority doesn't mess with God's Plan™.
I positively LOVE this quote, because it speaks to the bullshit nature of the Abrahamic god and the crap this supposedly omnibenevolent being lays on its creation.
Great quote, but their sky parent would either be a pussy or a coward because it lets this shit go on every day. It lets children be abused and lets the men off the hook. Not my idea of a deity.
You know damn well if a woman abused a child the Catholic Church would punish her to death. But men can.
The church claims to be pro-life. However, if a procedure goes against their bigoted beliefs, they will deny it to the point of killing the patient. Are these Catholic hospitals willing to transfer a patient to a hospital where they can receive the life saving care they need? Probably not. Pro-life? No. Pro control? Absolutely.
If the hospital 𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘸 they wouldn't allow the procedure, why did they take Ms Anonymous's money and allow it to proceed up until just before the anesthetic was administered? That seems unnecessarily cruel.
Part of me hopes Ms Anonymous doesn't get her refund, so she can take them to court and get at least triple plus court costs and attorney fees. The other part hopes that she gets her refund, and that a true medical caregiver will do the procedure for free.
There was more than one case where a woman was in the process of losing massive amounts of blood, needed a D & C, and the Catholic hospital in Northern California gave her a bucket, towels and basically said good luck, hope you make it to the next hospital many miles away!
Yes, Indian heritage dentist stuck in Catholic controlled hellscape who needed a D &C and couldn’t get one and died. She’s the reason abortion is now legal there.
Yes. Apparently at some point a nurse told her 'we are a catholic country'.
Re Savita, something which is often overlooked, she was in hospital for about a week. She was conscious. She knew what was happening to her. She also had some medical training, so she knew about the risks of her situation.
In her case, medical staff kept monitoring her, but felt that they could not do a D&C because there was still a heartbeat. A heartbeat of what was never going to be a live baby. All the while she was fighting serious infections and going septic.
(Gruesome detail warning - when you're pregnant and your waters break, it provides an opening for seriously nasty bacteria to enter your uterus and due to the lack of amniotic fluid they can run rampant, causing serious infections which can spread all over the body. Ultimately causing the body to go septic and shut down. I did not know that until I read that about Savita's case.)
We had a similar incident in New Mexico, as I stated in my "Further Thought," though in that case, the woman survived. I have little doubt but that many such incidents have happened throughout the US and simply were not reported on.
Also makes me wonder how many times Catholic hospitals have been sued by women or their families because of their selective refusal to provide proper health care.
In Savita’s case they were prioritising a dead baby over a live woman.
As you might know, the people in Ireland were outraged, absolutely furious. Very quickly it led to a referendum, which gave a (limited) right to abortions.
And it told everyone that the country wasn’t/isn’t quite so catholic anymore.
I suspect that there's hardly a regular here who doesn't know about what happened to Savita Halappanavar and the fallout from all of that. I almost wonder if the word, "perfidy" was invented to describe what happened to her.
What makes it all worse is that similar incidents are happening in the US right now because of the Dobbs decision and individual states deciding to outlaw abortions and in some cases, indict women who attempt to get proper health care.
Am I incensed about all of this? YOU BET YOUR ASS I AM!!!
And they should be sued. Each and every time they do something like that the hospital should be sued, the medical personnel should be sued. And open up some (criminal) investigations as well!
Yeah, whatever happened to that baby whose vegetative mother was forced to stay on life support against her will so he could be "saved"? Last I heard out he came out horribly premature with a whole heap of medical issues for which the family was denied funding. Sounds about right.
As had the baby, by being born. After that, who cares! It reminds me of an account I read from someone whose cousin, Emily, found out her baby to be had a fatal condition and would not only not survive out of the womb but would kill her in the process. She sadly made the appointment - it was very much a wanted baby.
Then she made the mistake of turning to her church for comfort.
She was immediately bullied and shamed into not getting the abortion. Sure enough she died during childbirth. The baby lived for a few agonising hours and then died as well. The church held a special service in which they crowed about her "courage" and virtue and shit, completely ignoring the fact that thanks to them Emily had left behind a grieving husband and a little girl who was now deprived of her mother. That's literally the mentality we have here.
Why would anyone want a woman who does not want children to have children? How many children who are unwanted are abused, starved, lost in foster care systems? Religion should not have anything to do with politics or forcing their rules on othe rpeople.
The people who want to sterilize women with the wrong skin color, and who want women with the correct skin color to produce as much offspring as possible.
“Speaking in the White House’s East Room, President Donald Trump said the U.S. military projected that the operation in Iran could take four to five weeks but has “the capability to go far longer than that.”
“I don’t get bored,” Trump said. “There’s nothing boring about this.””
Y'know, for once I believe him. I really, truly, honestly 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 think he'll ever get bored of dropping bombs on brown people while the taint-licking murder apologists on Fox News slavishly praise him for it.
Catholic hospitals have been operating this way for forever. Any medical staff that refuses to DO THEIR JOB should be fired, period. Get rid of conscience protections in healthcare. TAX these churches. We are tired.
I rewatched the movie Spotlight last night. Unbelievable (but believable) people are still sending their children to these churches. Systemic rot.
I watched Conclave. Priests are hardly holier than thou. I mentioned to one of my kids it looked remarkably similar to choosing a speaker of the house.
No hospital should be allowed to be owned or run by any religious order unless that state has laws that preclude the owning cult from imposing its own "values" on patients.
Both religion and profit motive need to be eliminated from healthcare. Get religion out so it is comprehensive, get profit motive out so it is affordable.
For a hospital to accept payment, then wait until the patient has gone through surgical prep all the way up to having an IV line placed before they refuse care, on the grounds that it violates the RCC's dogma, it shouldn't just be a matter of civil malpractice (though definitely that, too)... the case should be referred to the DA's office, and felony fraud (for promising and charging for care they had no intent to provide) and assault (I don't know what else you'd call sticking a needle in someone you don't intend to administer any fucking medicine to) charges should be brought.
This is no mere "whoopsie!"- 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 were committed here. If that procedure is not allowed as a matter of policy, then the patient shouldn't have ever been able to book the procedure. Once the hospital accepted her case and payment for the procedure, they had an obligation to either see it through, transport her to another facility that would do it in their stead, or refund her money and compensate her for the extreme, and likely traumatic, inconvenience.
I was able to get my tubes tied across the street from the Catholic hospital in Eugene Oregon. I started out in the Catholic hospital and they wheeled me across the sky bridge so that God wouldn't know that they were tying my tubes. Because of course it works like that.
The simultaneous belief that your deity is an all-powerful, all-knowing creeper who'll get miffed if you don't follow his rules, but that he is also a total moron- one so gullible and so simple in his thinking that you can fool him with a piece of string, as though he were an almighty version of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.
This is one of those we'll-see-it-again issues. Too many people don't understand that medical facilities run by religious groups (often the RCC, but not always) care more about their dogma and pushing a narrative than they do about the well being of their patients. It's not like these facilities come with warnings, either; instead, they play games with the health of the people least able to fight back.
At a bare minimum, these religious medical facilities should be forced to advise the public of any procedure they refuse to perform; ideally, religious groups wouldn't be allowed to run medical facilities at all.
At no point in my ~40 years on this shithole planet have I been so afraid of someone pushing the Big Red Button. Not because of politics, not even because of religion, but because one petulant fucking toddler not only can't grasp, but has utter fucking contempt for the very 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵 of diplomacy. I will not sleep soundly until he and all his ilk have not only lost their power, but also any chance they might ever have to reclaim it. It is not only our country which has become unsafe, but our entire 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘴, so long as these people have control of the most lethal military force in human history.
Every single person who obeys this tyrant's orders should be fucking ashamed.
I feel the same way, as if we're all trapped in a room with big ass ticking time bomb the size of Texas. Like you, I've worried from time to time about all-out nuclear war, I've even seen movies about it, but fucking damnation, I thought most people had enough sense to know better, and/or would rather continue living than blow themselves up.
And speaking of knowing better, I never in a million years would have dreamed that a gross, disgusting, rude, foul-mouthed, barely human piece of shit like Trump would be considered not only electable, but would actually BE elected. Fucking TWiCE.
Jesus Fucking Howard Christ on a Harley, I grew up in the Deep South. I should have been able to read the room better than that and know we were headed for ... what, I have no idea, but I don't think it will end well.
There is absolutely nothing that cannot be justified in the name of religion. The Catholic church's stand on contraception doesn't elevate the status of life, it trivializes it. Like every other patriarchal misogynist organization, they have no concern for the woman what so ever.
Christopher Hitchens said it best - “religion ruins everything!”
Poisons.
My bad. Sometimes I get lazy and don’t reread the quote. Thanks!
God damn the RCC. An obscenely wealthy patriarchal organization that treats women, LGBTQs and (especially) children with contempt while shielding its own from any sort of accountability.
Pro-life, my ass. Pro their own lives.
Pro-forced birth! They want victims for their rich donors to abuse.
Pro-CONTROL. Nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade here.
The RCC is proof that there is no loving, benevolent god.
"Pro their own lives", indeed!
And "pro doing things on the cheap" so they have to spend as little money as possible on their patients!
Jesus, Inc. (NYSE: JEEZ)
If you are unwilling to provide the healthcare required by your patients, you should not be in the medical field. This goes for individuals and for institutions. Best medical practices should be the priority, sincerely held religious beliefs are irrelevant.
Sincerely held religious beliefs have been killing women since their beginning, long before we called them sincerely held religious beliefs. Women aren’t allowed to be seen by men, a sincerely held religious belief, means that women can’t see a doctor at all, not for any gynecological reason, not even for a cut on their finger. Women aren’t allowed to attend school or be educated, a sincerely religious belief, means that women cannot learn to be doctors to provide care to women patients, keeping women from getting the medical attention they desperately need. It also keeps women under the thumbs of men for their basic human needs for survival. Menstrual quarantine, abortion bans, and shaming surrounding anything to do with sex and or rapes and single motherhood, all puts women’s lives in very real, very serious danger. It leads to witch hunts, and such terrible quality of life.
If I didn’t know any better, I would believe that religions were created just to make women give birth and die.
I think you're onto something with that last sentence. I could almost believe that, in their secret heart of hearts, they wish they could have women euthanised once they are past childbearing age. Isn't that what they do to brood mares who are no longer useful?
In contrast with horses, women beyond child bearing age can still be useful, while mom is busy caring for the newborn baby, grandma can prepare sandwiches for the other kids (and for the lazy husband).
There is an evolutionary purpose to human menopause. People have only just begun researching it, so no conclusions yet. But there has to be some reason women are outliving their reproductive abilities. Most mammals, and fauna in general, do not have menopause. I think elephants and some apes do, but not many others. The fact that women go through menopause proves that our purpose is greater than just shitting out babies. Also, the social orders of animals that do have menopause are matriarchal, a reason the patriarchy we suffer under is not natural.
True, but they think of women as livestock. They’ve already expressed and demostrated desires to kill brown people, trans people and LGBTQ folks. An older woman may be useful as a cook/maid/nanny but there are also elderly women who have no one. If this regime goes full-on Gilead, those are the ones who might be seen as non-productive members of society and “sent to the colonies.” Of course that probably wouldn’t apply to white men as the privileged Sons of Jacob.
SIGH as I’ve stated earlier, I reached the point where I would not put much of anything past these Slitheen monsters.
Guess I mixed metaphors there. Sorry folks!
Is Slitheens a DOCTOR WHO monster, or is that from another sci-fi show?
A Raxacoricofallapatorian crime family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slitheen
Doctor Who.
Dr. Who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unORPOtavqM
Grandma can do a whole lot more than "make sandwiches". She has skills and experience and education and will work many years longer than her husband.
The "making sammiches" stands here for "working very hard to increase the survival rate of her descendants".
And that is why these enemies of humanity want them to die. Once they can no longer serve the death cult's purpose by being young, dumb and full of cum, constantly pumping out (preferably) male spawn, their experience makes their further existance a threat to the power of the death cultists.
The Magdeline Laundries.
This woman was assaulted when she was young. Where was your god then, RCC? If he couldn't be bothered to stop that assault then, he doesn't get a say in her life now.
Who’s to say their god wasn’t causing the assault? I mean, she didn’t say who assaulted her or where she was assaulted, it could have been a priest in church. What excuse was given to assault her? Her father owned her so he can do whatever he wants because god. There’s just so much we don’t know, but we do know that the church is setup to protect the men assaulting women and blame the women for their victimhood. And this is just another way they punish women for existing.
Of course! It's all part of God's Plan™, and if you violate God's Plan™, EVERYTHING goes KAFLOOIE! So Catholic authority doesn't mess with God's Plan™.
Which apparently includes diddling little kids.
𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑒𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑠 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑 𝑟𝑎𝑝𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑟𝑎𝑝𝑒 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑜𝑟 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎 𝐺𝑜𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑠𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑦 𝑤𝑎𝑡𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑠 𝑖𝑡 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑠𝑎𝑦𝑠, “𝑊ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢’𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛𝑒, 𝐼’𝑚 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑢𝑛𝑖𝑠ℎ 𝑦𝑜𝑢.” 𝐼𝑓 𝐼 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑎 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑟𝑎𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑, 𝐼 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑. 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡’𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑤𝑒𝑒𝑛 𝑚𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝐺𝑜𝑑.
-- Tracie Harris
I positively LOVE this quote, because it speaks to the bullshit nature of the Abrahamic god and the crap this supposedly omnibenevolent being lays on its creation.
Great quote, but their sky parent would either be a pussy or a coward because it lets this shit go on every day. It lets children be abused and lets the men off the hook. Not my idea of a deity.
You know damn well if a woman abused a child the Catholic Church would punish her to death. But men can.
True enough:
𝐴𝑛𝑦 𝑔𝑜𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑜𝑤 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑟𝑒𝑛 𝑏𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑢𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑑𝑖𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑔𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑣𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑤𝑎𝑦 𝑒𝑖𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑝 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚 𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛'𝑡 𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡𝑜. 𝐻𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑜𝑡𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑙.
-- Sam Harris
Ahh, but those " mysterious ways" make it all ok.
𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑖𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑟𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑛𝑢𝑟𝑠𝑒𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑜 𝑤𝑜𝑟𝑘 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑘𝑛𝑜𝑤 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑐𝑒𝑑𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑠 𝑛𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑎𝑟𝑦 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑡ℎ𝑒 ℎ𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑡ℎ 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑡, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑠𝑒 𝑡𝑎𝑘𝑒𝑠 𝑎 𝑏𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑠𝑒𝑎𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑚𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑢𝑠 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠.
The church claims to be pro-life. However, if a procedure goes against their bigoted beliefs, they will deny it to the point of killing the patient. Are these Catholic hospitals willing to transfer a patient to a hospital where they can receive the life saving care they need? Probably not. Pro-life? No. Pro control? Absolutely.
If the hospital 𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘸 they wouldn't allow the procedure, why did they take Ms Anonymous's money and allow it to proceed up until just before the anesthetic was administered? That seems unnecessarily cruel.
Part of me hopes Ms Anonymous doesn't get her refund, so she can take them to court and get at least triple plus court costs and attorney fees. The other part hopes that she gets her refund, and that a true medical caregiver will do the procedure for free.
There was more than one case where a woman was in the process of losing massive amounts of blood, needed a D & C, and the Catholic hospital in Northern California gave her a bucket, towels and basically said good luck, hope you make it to the next hospital many miles away!
Do da name Savita Halappanavar strike a familiar note? 😡
Yes, Indian heritage dentist stuck in Catholic controlled hellscape who needed a D &C and couldn’t get one and died. She’s the reason abortion is now legal there.
Yes. Apparently at some point a nurse told her 'we are a catholic country'.
Re Savita, something which is often overlooked, she was in hospital for about a week. She was conscious. She knew what was happening to her. She also had some medical training, so she knew about the risks of her situation.
In her case, medical staff kept monitoring her, but felt that they could not do a D&C because there was still a heartbeat. A heartbeat of what was never going to be a live baby. All the while she was fighting serious infections and going septic.
(Gruesome detail warning - when you're pregnant and your waters break, it provides an opening for seriously nasty bacteria to enter your uterus and due to the lack of amniotic fluid they can run rampant, causing serious infections which can spread all over the body. Ultimately causing the body to go septic and shut down. I did not know that until I read that about Savita's case.)
We had a similar incident in New Mexico, as I stated in my "Further Thought," though in that case, the woman survived. I have little doubt but that many such incidents have happened throughout the US and simply were not reported on.
Also makes me wonder how many times Catholic hospitals have been sued by women or their families because of their selective refusal to provide proper health care.
In Savita’s case they were prioritising a dead baby over a live woman.
As you might know, the people in Ireland were outraged, absolutely furious. Very quickly it led to a referendum, which gave a (limited) right to abortions.
And it told everyone that the country wasn’t/isn’t quite so catholic anymore.
I suspect that there's hardly a regular here who doesn't know about what happened to Savita Halappanavar and the fallout from all of that. I almost wonder if the word, "perfidy" was invented to describe what happened to her.
What makes it all worse is that similar incidents are happening in the US right now because of the Dobbs decision and individual states deciding to outlaw abortions and in some cases, indict women who attempt to get proper health care.
Am I incensed about all of this? YOU BET YOUR ASS I AM!!!
They probably consider wrongful death lawsuits the price of doing business.
Wouldn't surprise me, though I wonder how many dioceses and Catholic hospitals have gone under for "the price of doing business!"
And they should be sued. Each and every time they do something like that the hospital should be sued, the medical personnel should be sued. And open up some (criminal) investigations as well!
Yeah, whatever happened to that baby whose vegetative mother was forced to stay on life support against her will so he could be "saved"? Last I heard out he came out horribly premature with a whole heap of medical issues for which the family was denied funding. Sounds about right.
As far as the death cult was concerned the incubator served her purpose.
As had the baby, by being born. After that, who cares! It reminds me of an account I read from someone whose cousin, Emily, found out her baby to be had a fatal condition and would not only not survive out of the womb but would kill her in the process. She sadly made the appointment - it was very much a wanted baby.
Then she made the mistake of turning to her church for comfort.
She was immediately bullied and shamed into not getting the abortion. Sure enough she died during childbirth. The baby lived for a few agonising hours and then died as well. The church held a special service in which they crowed about her "courage" and virtue and shit, completely ignoring the fact that thanks to them Emily had left behind a grieving husband and a little girl who was now deprived of her mother. That's literally the mentality we have here.
Why would anyone want a woman who does not want children to have children? How many children who are unwanted are abused, starved, lost in foster care systems? Religion should not have anything to do with politics or forcing their rules on othe rpeople.
The people who want to sterilize women with the wrong skin color, and who want women with the correct skin color to produce as much offspring as possible.
“Speaking in the White House’s East Room, President Donald Trump said the U.S. military projected that the operation in Iran could take four to five weeks but has “the capability to go far longer than that.”
“I don’t get bored,” Trump said. “There’s nothing boring about this.””
Unfuckingbelievable.
Y'know, for once I believe him. I really, truly, honestly 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 think he'll ever get bored of dropping bombs on brown people while the taint-licking murder apologists on Fox News slavishly praise him for it.
Deploy Barron.
Yes, deploy all the children of the elite members of the Christian nationalist movement.
Send the little bastard to walk point with a paint gun.
Nah, send him through Basic, kit him up with the rest, then let him take point. Fair's fair.
That little bastard couldn't last two hours in basic.
I used to be an NBC NCO. I'd love to have him go through my mask confidence chamber. 😁
So would I. That day was the clearest sinuses I have ever had in my entire life. To this day, just a whiff of CS and my nose twitches.
"At Ascension St. Thomas Midtown, administrators overrode doctors and denied a legal procedure in the name of “sacred fertility.”
TRANSLATION: You are your uterus.
More like: We CONTROL your uterus!
Catholic hospitals have been operating this way for forever. Any medical staff that refuses to DO THEIR JOB should be fired, period. Get rid of conscience protections in healthcare. TAX these churches. We are tired.
I rewatched the movie Spotlight last night. Unbelievable (but believable) people are still sending their children to these churches. Systemic rot.
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I watched Conclave. Priests are hardly holier than thou. I mentioned to one of my kids it looked remarkably similar to choosing a speaker of the house.
I loved Conclave!
What a fantastic cast!
No hospital should be allowed to be owned or run by any religious order unless that state has laws that preclude the owning cult from imposing its own "values" on patients.
And not even then. Get all religion out of healthcare and keep it out.
Both religion and profit motive need to be eliminated from healthcare. Get religion out so it is comprehensive, get profit motive out so it is affordable.
For a hospital to accept payment, then wait until the patient has gone through surgical prep all the way up to having an IV line placed before they refuse care, on the grounds that it violates the RCC's dogma, it shouldn't just be a matter of civil malpractice (though definitely that, too)... the case should be referred to the DA's office, and felony fraud (for promising and charging for care they had no intent to provide) and assault (I don't know what else you'd call sticking a needle in someone you don't intend to administer any fucking medicine to) charges should be brought.
This is no mere "whoopsie!"- 𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 were committed here. If that procedure is not allowed as a matter of policy, then the patient shouldn't have ever been able to book the procedure. Once the hospital accepted her case and payment for the procedure, they had an obligation to either see it through, transport her to another facility that would do it in their stead, or refund her money and compensate her for the extreme, and likely traumatic, inconvenience.
"fraud" - That's religion's basic business model.
That's why they get along with Cheetolini so well.
Get all churches OUT of the health care system! PERIOD!
Bingo! If they can't give proper standard of care, they should not be allowed in healthcare!
I was able to get my tubes tied across the street from the Catholic hospital in Eugene Oregon. I started out in the Catholic hospital and they wheeled me across the sky bridge so that God wouldn't know that they were tying my tubes. Because of course it works like that.
(They are insane)
You have to ask ... just WHO do they think they're kidding??? Simply beyond belief.
I present you the eruv. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv
The simultaneous belief that your deity is an all-powerful, all-knowing creeper who'll get miffed if you don't follow his rules, but that he is also a total moron- one so gullible and so simple in his thinking that you can fool him with a piece of string, as though he were an almighty version of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.
This is one of those we'll-see-it-again issues. Too many people don't understand that medical facilities run by religious groups (often the RCC, but not always) care more about their dogma and pushing a narrative than they do about the well being of their patients. It's not like these facilities come with warnings, either; instead, they play games with the health of the people least able to fight back.
At a bare minimum, these religious medical facilities should be forced to advise the public of any procedure they refuse to perform; ideally, religious groups wouldn't be allowed to run medical facilities at all.
Too sane, too logical, makes too much sense. We can't have that here in "Murica.
OT: It's a holy war ----
https://jonathanlarsen.substack.com/p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for
At no point in my ~40 years on this shithole planet have I been so afraid of someone pushing the Big Red Button. Not because of politics, not even because of religion, but because one petulant fucking toddler not only can't grasp, but has utter fucking contempt for the very 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘱𝘵 of diplomacy. I will not sleep soundly until he and all his ilk have not only lost their power, but also any chance they might ever have to reclaim it. It is not only our country which has become unsafe, but our entire 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘴, so long as these people have control of the most lethal military force in human history.
Every single person who obeys this tyrant's orders should be fucking ashamed.
I feel the same way, as if we're all trapped in a room with big ass ticking time bomb the size of Texas. Like you, I've worried from time to time about all-out nuclear war, I've even seen movies about it, but fucking damnation, I thought most people had enough sense to know better, and/or would rather continue living than blow themselves up.
And speaking of knowing better, I never in a million years would have dreamed that a gross, disgusting, rude, foul-mouthed, barely human piece of shit like Trump would be considered not only electable, but would actually BE elected. Fucking TWiCE.
Jesus Fucking Howard Christ on a Harley, I grew up in the Deep South. I should have been able to read the room better than that and know we were headed for ... what, I have no idea, but I don't think it will end well.
Punishment of the most savage nature. They will never feel shame, but they can feel pain.
Holy Fuck! These fucking morons must be eliminated before we're all killed.
Trump accuses the UK Prime Minister of "pandering to Muslims" - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2026/mar/03/trump-starmer-us-special-relationship-iran-yvette-cooper-labour-uk-politics-latest-news-updates?page=with%3Ablock-69a6a53b8f08ebd57c8a0174#block-69a6a53b8f08ebd57c8a0174
Nothing new, we already knew that the Great (Orange) Satan was a racist.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/337c6f635b7caba371e99e90e0f8b6ff7086fbde66a21cd59711b5d7e47ed60e.jpg
Precisely.