Conservative Christians never stop trying to mark their territory in the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars. Every administrator who signed off on this needs to be terminated. I would like to see federal legislation with real teeth in it to end the practice of proselytizing in the public schools once and for all. It isn't as if this country suffers from a lack of churches. No one has the right to try forcing their religion on another person's child.
The conservative Christian parents tolerate and encourage it. They think if they expose their kids to more Jesus thane they get at home every day and church thrice a week then that will k̵e̵e̵p̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵m̵ ̵b̵i̵g̵o̵t̵e̵d̵ stop them from leaving the faith. Ramping up the coercion doesn't work they way they think it does.
And Louisiana ranks third of all 50 states in the highest teen pregnancy rates, 24 out of every 1,000. Even the Mormons of Utah do better, they only have 9. The lowest States run around 5;, new hampshire, massachusetts, Vermont.
Shame books like this, church, religion and abstinence- only "sex education" do not work, every Southern state has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation and the worst other social metrics like poverty, homelessness, domestic abuse, gun violence, unemployment, drug addiction.
Not teaching young people about sex has never stopped them from having it, but of course the Christian Taliban will treat them all as evil sluts that deserve whatever they get,..... not the young boys though, they're just sowing wild oats.
During the Holocaust, some rabbis imprisoned at one of the Nazi concentration camps, in their copious free time, discussed putting God on trial for putting them in that ghastly horror.
Satan is too decent a character to be forced to do that job, but he is probably the only one decent enough to ensure that the trial is fair. Make him the judge.
I've always suspected that's why we've lasted in the species for so long. Gay aunts and uncles are perfect to take over raising orphaned kids (much more likely in a hunter-gather society).
Kindergarteners are the perfect age to teach about the "s"- word. I don't mean sex. Oh, no. That's why we banned that gay penguin book. No they are the right age to learn about the most important 's' word --- "Shame"
Sex is slavery, only if you don't shave the hair of the woman, whose family you just slaughtered in a war of conquest, and allow her thirty days to mourn the violent death of everyone she ever knew and loved. And by "woman", I mean "little girl".
I shudder to think what they'd make of Aron Ra these days. Lately, he's become a considerable snake collector, and he has some real beauties which he occasionally shows off in YouTube videos.
I don't know which they'd be more afraid of: Aron or his collection. Either way, it'd be a hoot to watch their reactions!
…we can’t teach true history because it offends the whyte folks and stirs up discomfort they misidentify as guilt (because if there were true remorse they would engage in the Work);
…we can’t read a story about two loving daddy—wait for it—penguins;
…parents are up in arms because the school spirit wear has six colors of the color wheel and that looks too much like Pride (true story);
…an administrator quit her job and pulled her kids because a teacher told her class that her wife was pregnant (another true story);
…teachers are not trusted to adjust the thermostats in their classrooms but folks want them to be armed;
…we can’t trust kids to decide how they’d like to be addressed;
…but the Gideons can distribute unvetted, fictional text with layers of lies that shames human nature and comments on sex of minors, to our youngest children.
My opinion, this is a deliberate strategy by the Republicans......they are in a war of attrition, death by a thousand cuts....... not their death, but the death of public schools & libraries. In addition to your list above there's a lot more - it's as if they're trying to wear teachers down to quit, so the Republican school voucher scams can be implemented, thus defunding and closing down on public schools and libraries.
Did the adults who entered the school for this Together Tuesday have to complete a background check? Any adult who volunteers in my kids' schools, in Washington and in Wisconsin, including parents of students, have to complete a background check. If parents must do the background check, why wouldn't church group volunteers?
I am assuming they didn't vet the adults entering the school any more than they vetted the propaganda distributed during that time. To me, while the book is unsettling for the age group and its ignorant takes, the people having access to the children is the more dangerous issue. They scream and cry and threaten violence over Satanists and other secular groups getting access through a strict vetting process, and yet they never respond well to criticism of their presence, especially when it is quite clear they were privileged to enter without what red tape other organizations require. Satanists and Drag Queens forsooth. Keep your creepy clergy away from my children.
Considering how many vociferously homophobic clergy turned out to be gay, not to mention the prevalence of child sexual abuse in religious institutions in general, the rational choice would be to ban religious orgs from having ANY contact with kids.
Tay is brainwashed, he needs help, a deprogramming. And Uncle G gives it away in the first sentence: he loves teens.
Even in their fictional universe and propaganda, their tendencies shine through. That stuff has to go through several editors - they really are that bad.
1 - I see White folks telling Black students that being a slave means you're a ho. Wut?
2 - Does this school teach about slavery, or do they mimic a Florida education? If so, then the only knowledge kids have about the word slave, is A: Black, and B: Promiscuous. What a horrible connotation.
3 - I'm assuming the students are too young to have had sex ed, or they have abstinence ed, or the district forbids it all. So adults are inappropriately discussing sex with youngsters. This is the first intro to sex. They can teach that sex = slavery = promiscuousness, but not that sex = intercourse, or = pregnancy, or could lead to STDs so you should use protection.
4 - Why are the "parents rights" people always right-wingers? This is indoctrination right here.
Christians are given permission to simply walk onto an elementary school campus like Trump walking into a dressing room at a Miss Teen USA pageant and start handing out religious propaganda to gullible children without permission from parents beforehand and its drag queens and their story hours that are the danger?
Help me with this: the church group can distribute their material discussing sex to elementary school children, but anyone else who exposes them to similar literature is accused of grooming? How can they reconcile this disconnect? Regardless of the source, such material is generally too advanced for this age group.
The stuff they're complaining about doesn't discuss sex. It discusses romantic relationships between two men or two women. Or it discusses someone who is told they're a boy but they know they are a girl and their quest for acceptance. (Yeah, I know but transboys are pretty much ignored)
That's why that old Who song "I'm a Boy" is so timely after all these years, along with the old Scorpions number "He's a Woman, She's a Man." Still and all, they don't need to be exposed to it.
Why not? It's a fact of life. One that may even affect some of them. Many trans people have said they knew in preschool that they weren't the gender they were told they were. Where's the harm? That some cis kids might play with their own gender expression and make adults uncomfortable?
Even if they didn't 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 know, they 𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘸 something sure as shit wasn't 𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵. Took my dysfunctional ass until my gorram 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 to put every last piece in place. Thinking about what 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 have been if I'd had better, more comprehensive information a decade or two earlier is a rabbit hole I can't go down without a bottle of liquid courage.
Our society is disgustingly hostile to anyone who doesn't conform exactly to its expectations.
I have never had a snake lie to me. A snake has never told me that it was ok to sell my daughter (Exodus 21:7-11). A snake has never told me to hate my mother, father, siblings or children (Luke 14:26). A snake has never told me to kill gay people (Leviticus 20:13). A snake has never told me that a woman's life is forfeit if she isn't a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). And even the most bastardy of all snakes, the Paradise flying snake, has yet to tell me that if a girl is raped, then she deserves to die (Deuteronomy 22:23-24). Snakes are pretty honest and decent creatures.
Adam and his transgender clone, their children, Abraham and Sarah, Noah's grandchildren, Lot and his daughters. More than 2 and I didn't have to google the topic.
I think the district ought to make public how this happened. Who approved it? What was the process? Was anyone in the decision making process affiliated with the group?
If the Christians don't want their snakes, I'll gladly take them- the local rodent population has been running amok this Spring; they'll have good eatin' around here!
Who said they were trying to help children? They're main purpose is to convince children to be Christian, and the best way they've found is to scare the bejeezus out of them with the threat of Hell. Too bad the school is in on it.
Religion is NEVER about helping. It is ALWAYS about total control by any means necessary including intimidation. They are totally lacking compassion and empathy. ALL they have are scare tactics and lies.
So for just a moment, let's make sure we all appreciate the breathtaking hypocrisy going on here. A group of religious people who usually maintain they are more moral than the average have given to small children literature that, in any other case, they would scream is obscene literature. These people are the same sort who demand bans on books that feature anything to do with sexual activities, the human body, or growing up, and in some cases have gone to the extremes of threatening various teachers, librarians, and others associated with public schools or libraries. The unmitigated gall here is truly staggering.
This stuff isn't going to fly under the proverbial radar anymore, and so it shouldn't. The public has a vested interest in any group, organization, cult, club, or church that is potentially working to hurt children, even if that group is a usually over-respected Christian church. This church shouldn't get out of this without at bare minimum seriously bad press, even if 'contributing to the delinquency of a minor' might be a bit of a stretch.
Conservative Christians never stop trying to mark their territory in the public schools, paid for with everyone's tax dollars. Every administrator who signed off on this needs to be terminated. I would like to see federal legislation with real teeth in it to end the practice of proselytizing in the public schools once and for all. It isn't as if this country suffers from a lack of churches. No one has the right to try forcing their religion on another person's child.
There are more churches in the country than schools and libraries combined, but still they feel they must invade and remove the schools and libraries.
It speaks to just how weak their message really is that they're driven to get to kids before they've reached the age of reason.
They know how to indoctrinate, before the hormones kick in!
𝔜𝔢 𝔬𝔩𝔡𝔢 𝔣𝔬𝔲𝔯 𝔱𝔬 𝔣𝔬𝔲𝔯𝔱𝔢𝔢𝔫 𝔴𝔦𝔫𝔡𝔬𝔴.
https://onlysky.media/ccassidy/what-the-4-14-window-tells-us-about-christianitys-future/
But not enough of the RIGHT churches.
EVERY church says the other churches are wrong.
I'm surprised that any parent would tolerate this .
The conservative Christian parents tolerate and encourage it. They think if they expose their kids to more Jesus thane they get at home every day and church thrice a week then that will k̵e̵e̵p̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵m̵ ̵b̵i̵g̵o̵t̵e̵d̵ stop them from leaving the faith. Ramping up the coercion doesn't work they way they think it does.
And Louisiana ranks third of all 50 states in the highest teen pregnancy rates, 24 out of every 1,000. Even the Mormons of Utah do better, they only have 9. The lowest States run around 5;, new hampshire, massachusetts, Vermont.
Shame books like this, church, religion and abstinence- only "sex education" do not work, every Southern state has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the nation and the worst other social metrics like poverty, homelessness, domestic abuse, gun violence, unemployment, drug addiction.
Not teaching young people about sex has never stopped them from having it, but of course the Christian Taliban will treat them all as evil sluts that deserve whatever they get,..... not the young boys though, they're just sowing wild oats.
There was a time when conservative Christians opposed sex education in public schools. Apparently it's permissible if taught by the right people.
Nicely worded.
kkkristers lways tolerate ANYTHING said by aANY KKKRISTER. The more vile, the better.
Can I give a non-ironic amen?
Sure.
Groomers gotta groom. And then deflect the blame to their victims.
I need to be peeled off the ceiling for this one.
Snakes are bad? They clean mice out of barns and make great pets.
Sex is slavery? Only for prostitutes working our world's streets who are in the hands of abusive pimps.
Kindergarteners are being taught about sex?
I'm enraged by this book, school, and the human filth who dreame dup this plan.
And like most Christians, they don't know that the snake wasn't Satan. Satan isn't even mentioned in the old testament.
Satan was invented by priests to make people fear God.
They invented God too.
Well, yeah, I figured that was implied. ;)
During the Holocaust, some rabbis imprisoned at one of the Nazi concentration camps, in their copious free time, discussed putting God on trial for putting them in that ghastly horror.
One of the questions was: "Who would defend God?"
Their answer: Satan.
Satan is too decent a character to be forced to do that job, but he is probably the only one decent enough to ensure that the trial is fair. Make him the judge.
It's too late...he put himself in the body of Aileen Cannon...
𝐉𝐮𝐝𝐠𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐥𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩'𝐬 𝐓𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐌𝐚𝐲 𝐇𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐒𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐰𝐞𝐝 𝐇𝐢𝐦 𝐎𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐁𝐲 𝐃𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐨
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYiGsmc4Ljs&pp=ygUPZmFycm9uIGJhbGFuY2Vk
I imagine Fani Willis saying "Thanks for the dumb and corrupt ones".
https://twitter.com/djfm_dot_com/status/1770463861780705661
Thank you, they should watch "Good Omens"! Which is a much better story.
But children reading a book about a gay penguin couple is bad 🙄
That very happy couple has even incubated and raised a couple of chicks, too.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've always suspected that's why we've lasted in the species for so long. Gay aunts and uncles are perfect to take over raising orphaned kids (much more likely in a hunter-gather society).
So is reading "King and King" is bad, too.
Kindergarteners are the perfect age to teach about the "s"- word. I don't mean sex. Oh, no. That's why we banned that gay penguin book. No they are the right age to learn about the most important 's' word --- "Shame"
Yes, kids must live in a state of shame from the moment they can think.
It's their fault mommy's an alcoholic and daddy's having an affair with a woman at his job.
️🎵 ️Your daddy works in porno
Now that mommy's not around
She used to love her heroin
But now she's underground 🎵
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUQiRVCva6w
"Your daddy works in porno" - Growth industry and AIUI if he bottoms, it pays pretty well.
Sex is slavery, only if you don't shave the hair of the woman, whose family you just slaughtered in a war of conquest, and allow her thirty days to mourn the violent death of everyone she ever knew and loved. And by "woman", I mean "little girl".
I shudder to think what they'd make of Aron Ra these days. Lately, he's become a considerable snake collector, and he has some real beauties which he occasionally shows off in YouTube videos.
I don't know which they'd be more afraid of: Aron or his collection. Either way, it'd be a hoot to watch their reactions!
So…
…we can’t teach true history because it offends the whyte folks and stirs up discomfort they misidentify as guilt (because if there were true remorse they would engage in the Work);
…we can’t read a story about two loving daddy—wait for it—penguins;
…parents are up in arms because the school spirit wear has six colors of the color wheel and that looks too much like Pride (true story);
…an administrator quit her job and pulled her kids because a teacher told her class that her wife was pregnant (another true story);
…teachers are not trusted to adjust the thermostats in their classrooms but folks want them to be armed;
…we can’t trust kids to decide how they’d like to be addressed;
…but the Gideons can distribute unvetted, fictional text with layers of lies that shames human nature and comments on sex of minors, to our youngest children.
Seems legit.
My opinion, this is a deliberate strategy by the Republicans......they are in a war of attrition, death by a thousand cuts....... not their death, but the death of public schools & libraries. In addition to your list above there's a lot more - it's as if they're trying to wear teachers down to quit, so the Republican school voucher scams can be implemented, thus defunding and closing down on public schools and libraries.
It’s working.
I'm glad you understand. So many here do not.
It's their field of expertise.
I read your words while hearing them with my father's voice. Brilliant.
Did the adults who entered the school for this Together Tuesday have to complete a background check? Any adult who volunteers in my kids' schools, in Washington and in Wisconsin, including parents of students, have to complete a background check. If parents must do the background check, why wouldn't church group volunteers?
I am assuming they didn't vet the adults entering the school any more than they vetted the propaganda distributed during that time. To me, while the book is unsettling for the age group and its ignorant takes, the people having access to the children is the more dangerous issue. They scream and cry and threaten violence over Satanists and other secular groups getting access through a strict vetting process, and yet they never respond well to criticism of their presence, especially when it is quite clear they were privileged to enter without what red tape other organizations require. Satanists and Drag Queens forsooth. Keep your creepy clergy away from my children.
Considering how many vociferously homophobic clergy turned out to be gay, not to mention the prevalence of child sexual abuse in religious institutions in general, the rational choice would be to ban religious orgs from having ANY contact with kids.
Yes but that would be the rational choice, faith is never rational.
That's true but it doesn't HAVE to be monumentally anti-rational.
Tay is brainwashed, he needs help, a deprogramming. And Uncle G gives it away in the first sentence: he loves teens.
Even in their fictional universe and propaganda, their tendencies shine through. That stuff has to go through several editors - they really are that bad.
Yeah, that was creepy. These church people are so used to creeper men, they don't even realize how it looks to normal people.
Totally horrendous on so many levels.
1 - I see White folks telling Black students that being a slave means you're a ho. Wut?
2 - Does this school teach about slavery, or do they mimic a Florida education? If so, then the only knowledge kids have about the word slave, is A: Black, and B: Promiscuous. What a horrible connotation.
3 - I'm assuming the students are too young to have had sex ed, or they have abstinence ed, or the district forbids it all. So adults are inappropriately discussing sex with youngsters. This is the first intro to sex. They can teach that sex = slavery = promiscuousness, but not that sex = intercourse, or = pregnancy, or could lead to STDs so you should use protection.
4 - Why are the "parents rights" people always right-wingers? This is indoctrination right here.
Ok, I'm sufficiently angry now.
Oh you said it so much better than I did! Well pointed out.
I saw the exact same thing the second I got to the pictures.
Christians are given permission to simply walk onto an elementary school campus like Trump walking into a dressing room at a Miss Teen USA pageant and start handing out religious propaganda to gullible children without permission from parents beforehand and its drag queens and their story hours that are the danger?
Drag queen story hour requires consent which is unbiblical.
Yes fundamentalists don't 'do' consent.
Parents aren't qualified to make that decision, which is why the state has to do it for them. Freedumb doncha know.
It's always projection, in this case on an IMAX level.
Help me with this: the church group can distribute their material discussing sex to elementary school children, but anyone else who exposes them to similar literature is accused of grooming? How can they reconcile this disconnect? Regardless of the source, such material is generally too advanced for this age group.
This is "good indoctrination" and yes, they really rationalize it like that.
Or arrested in Talibama
The stuff they're complaining about doesn't discuss sex. It discusses romantic relationships between two men or two women. Or it discusses someone who is told they're a boy but they know they are a girl and their quest for acceptance. (Yeah, I know but transboys are pretty much ignored)
That's why that old Who song "I'm a Boy" is so timely after all these years, along with the old Scorpions number "He's a Woman, She's a Man." Still and all, they don't need to be exposed to it.
Why not? It's a fact of life. One that may even affect some of them. Many trans people have said they knew in preschool that they weren't the gender they were told they were. Where's the harm? That some cis kids might play with their own gender expression and make adults uncomfortable?
Even if they didn't 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 know, they 𝘬𝘯𝘦𝘸 something sure as shit wasn't 𝘳𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵. Took my dysfunctional ass until my gorram 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴 to put every last piece in place. Thinking about what 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵 have been if I'd had better, more comprehensive information a decade or two earlier is a rabbit hole I can't go down without a bottle of liquid courage.
Our society is disgustingly hostile to anyone who doesn't conform exactly to its expectations.
I have never had a snake lie to me. A snake has never told me that it was ok to sell my daughter (Exodus 21:7-11). A snake has never told me to hate my mother, father, siblings or children (Luke 14:26). A snake has never told me to kill gay people (Leviticus 20:13). A snake has never told me that a woman's life is forfeit if she isn't a virgin on her wedding night (Deuteronomy 22:13-21). And even the most bastardy of all snakes, the Paradise flying snake, has yet to tell me that if a girl is raped, then she deserves to die (Deuteronomy 22:23-24). Snakes are pretty honest and decent creatures.
Promiscuity is bad? Incestuous promiscuity populated the biblical world. Twice.
Adam and his transgender clone, their children, Abraham and Sarah, Noah's grandchildren, Lot and his daughters. More than 2 and I didn't have to google the topic.
Were the incestuous events of the bible real, the human race would've become extinct quickly.
Love how there are only 3 people on earth when Cain leaves and meets his wife when he travels to the land of Nod.
Huh? Where did an entire land and its population come from? Only Adam, Eve and Cain are around.
The more incredible the tale the better it fits religions. Religious superstition is all about fairy tales.
"The bigger the humbug, the better that people will like it."
-- PT Barnum
He was only bested by H.L. Mencken, when it came to calling out people who were suckers.
The other gods made them.
But there are no other gods, according to Christians (even though their own god speaks of other gods).
Check out the edit I just did.
There were back then. Maybe gawd ate them.
Edit to add
Exodus 20:5 was a mistranslation. It should have read:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a gluttonous God . . .
When he says "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness," who's he talking to, the missus? 😃
Ancient aliens.
I think the district ought to make public how this happened. Who approved it? What was the process? Was anyone in the decision making process affiliated with the group?
𝓣𝓸𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓱𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓼𝓷𝓪𝓴𝓮𝓼! - 𝓣𝓪𝔂
Fuck "Tay". ~ Herpetologists, Farmers, Smart Folks, etc.
I know right? Crowley in "good omens" is my favorite character and he starts off assuming the role of the snake in the Garden of Eden.
Had to do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubLRB7tb78Q
But Tayne I can get into ...
https://youtu.be/a8K6QUPmv8Q
If the Christians don't want their snakes, I'll gladly take them- the local rodent population has been running amok this Spring; they'll have good eatin' around here!
I figured tay was a girl, like stealing Taylor swift's nickname made them think they were cool.
How does this help children? This is not sex ed. It’s scare tactics.
Who said they were trying to help children? They're main purpose is to convince children to be Christian, and the best way they've found is to scare the bejeezus out of them with the threat of Hell. Too bad the school is in on it.
Religion is NEVER about helping. It is ALWAYS about total control by any means necessary including intimidation. They are totally lacking compassion and empathy. ALL they have are scare tactics and lies.
Sex Ed in Louisiana:
"Don't have sex, Ed. Class dismissed."
The bible approved of sexual slavery so long as you bought her fairly from her father and treated her in accordance with the laws regarding such.
And some people could not believe reading the should-be-x-rated book helped me get out of their horror fantacy world.
So for just a moment, let's make sure we all appreciate the breathtaking hypocrisy going on here. A group of religious people who usually maintain they are more moral than the average have given to small children literature that, in any other case, they would scream is obscene literature. These people are the same sort who demand bans on books that feature anything to do with sexual activities, the human body, or growing up, and in some cases have gone to the extremes of threatening various teachers, librarians, and others associated with public schools or libraries. The unmitigated gall here is truly staggering.
This stuff isn't going to fly under the proverbial radar anymore, and so it shouldn't. The public has a vested interest in any group, organization, cult, club, or church that is potentially working to hurt children, even if that group is a usually over-respected Christian church. This church shouldn't get out of this without at bare minimum seriously bad press, even if 'contributing to the delinquency of a minor' might be a bit of a stretch.
"I grew up in the 'hood' as they call it."
Bet Uncle G grew up WEARING a hood.