Outside groups aren't allowed to rent the Dillon Amphitheater, but one Christian group receives special privilege with the help of insiders on the town board
Ummm ... guys? You've ALREADY DONE THAT! Your buddies at The Dillon Community Church have had a sweet deal with the city of Dillon for HOW LONG NOW? And for whatever reason, you don't want to make the amphitheater available to any other organization? I have to ask: just WHAT is going on between the city of Dillon and that church that they get exclusive access?!?
To borrow from Desi Arnaz, you got some 'splainin' to do!
Hemant's last sentence "If theyβre wise, theyβll listen to the advice their attorney gave them before she walked away." might be too optimistic. I will be surprised if they listen to the attorney. Because christian privilege.
Okay, so who's willing to bet on what they'll do? And since the bets on this will probably be very one-sided, all I can say is: Yawn. Yet another example of "discriminatory rules for thee, religious freedom for mee".
In all seriousness, though. I'd love to find out how many are in both the church and the council. Would make for a nice article.
Three guesses which church Christiansen attends, and the first two don't count. He pretty much admits that he wanted the lawyer to draft a policy that allows that one particular church exclusivity. This isn't just Christian Fucking Privilege. This is privilege for only one specific sort of Christian, which is the ultimate goal for some of these Nat Cs.
It has gotten to the point that putting 'wise' in a discussion about religious behavior is an oxymoron. All anyone has to do is tell them they cannot do something (continue a sweetheart deal, here) and they circle the wagons, scream bloody murder, and announce they are being persecuted. I think we can just bet they are hoping for a rethuglican sweep in November so they can eliminate separation of church and state. Gilead is not far behind.
When they force me into church my earbuds will be rockin' me while some preacher drones on about jeebus. IF we outnumber them we can demand the man talk about that sunday's ball game.
Itβs OK if these religious extremists want to believe in their nonexistent God, but they need to pay for it and do it on their own time, in their own building, and with their own money.
They should never be allowed to take advantage of a public space [especially] if theyβre the only ones that are allowed to use it. Itβs a textbook example of a violation of the First Amendmentβs establishment clause.
Dillon Colorado. Only let's one church rent that amphitheater. No synagogue, no other church, and no other religious organization may use it. Yup. You do you Dillon Colorado. I will continue to be me and not support Dillon Colorado in any way shape or form. Yup. May the powers that be in Dillon Colorado get voted out NOW.
Somebody needs to apply to rent the amphitheater for a drag show that invites patrons to bring food to be donated to the local food bank. And then when they decline sue the crap out of them.
It doesn't? The church is illegally using the town's amphitheater. I suggested renting the church out for a drag show since that would annoy the members of the church. It doesn't bring up the possibility of suing the church, true, but it will still annoy the tight-assed little Christstains, won't it?
I like that idea. It doesn't even have to really happen to set off that lot. Just the very Idea of it would be enough. Picture it: a bunch of drag queens showing up at the church office and making inquiries about renting the sanctuary :D It would give them a brain bleed!
How many years did we hear Christians use the talking point, βHomosexuals want special rightsβ when attacking gay people who simply wanted equal rights.
You hire experts for a reason. And the idiot who said she wasn't solution oriented doesn't understand that what he wants is NOT LEGAL and there is no way around that (at least until it gets to SCOTUS). He also doesn't understand what a city attorney is for. They aren't there to help you break the law.
Ms. Kelly deserves an award for her ability to remain professional in the face of the idiocy the Dillon council is pursuing in this case. Why anyone hires an attorney the turns around and refuses to listen to their advice is completely beyond me.
The real issue here appears to be the idea that everyone should be playing fairly; if the church gets to use the amphitheater then other outside groups should also have that opportunity. Christian privilege apparently can't handle that, Christians sure seem to not like sharing their toys with others and actively resist doing so. Shooting the messenger (Ms. Kelly) was quite possibly the worst way to handle the issue the council could have selected considering it's A.) ineffective and B.) childish. If this ever does come to a lawsuit, losing is likely to cost a good bit more because the council very well knew what it was doing wasn't legal.
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Ummm ... guys? You've ALREADY DONE THAT! Your buddies at The Dillon Community Church have had a sweet deal with the city of Dillon for HOW LONG NOW? And for whatever reason, you don't want to make the amphitheater available to any other organization? I have to ask: just WHAT is going on between the city of Dillon and that church that they get exclusive access?!?
To borrow from Desi Arnaz, you got some 'splainin' to do!
I wouldn't bet on it. The one time I remember Ricky letting Lucy into the band as a saxophone soloist was nothing short of disastrous! π
Lucy's default state was disaster.
TRUE DAT!!!
Hemant's last sentence "If theyβre wise, theyβll listen to the advice their attorney gave them before she walked away." might be too optimistic. I will be surprised if they listen to the attorney. Because christian privilege.
Okay, so who's willing to bet on what they'll do? And since the bets on this will probably be very one-sided, all I can say is: Yawn. Yet another example of "discriminatory rules for thee, religious freedom for mee".
In all seriousness, though. I'd love to find out how many are in both the church and the council. Would make for a nice article.
Prolly 5 or 7 board so 4 or 6 in that church.
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Three guesses which church Christiansen attends, and the first two don't count. He pretty much admits that he wanted the lawyer to draft a policy that allows that one particular church exclusivity. This isn't just Christian Fucking Privilege. This is privilege for only one specific sort of Christian, which is the ultimate goal for some of these Nat Cs.
"πππ‘ π‘π π‘βπππ€ πππ π‘πππππ ππ π‘βπ π€ππ¦"
There goes that pesky US Constitution again.
Why isn't the attorney paid for with public funding helping me abuse public funding?!
Hmmmm, doesnβt that sentence sound like some former bloated carcass of an ex-president?
Ah, yes the BLOaTUS.
LOL!!!!!
And Christiansen is the Democrat.
Democrats can be dumbasses too. Republicans have a head start but its not exclusive to them.
It happens when you add organized religion.
Dillion Council: We are going to build an public amphitheater.
Public: Are we going to pay for its construction.
Dillion Council: Yes.
Public: Are we going to pay for its up keep?
Dillion Council: Yes.
Public: Can we use it?
Dillion Council: NO! What part of public don't you understand?
"Christiansen added that Dillon-based organizations should get βpreferential treatment.β
Maybe some members of the TST should open a chapter there π
Yer DEVIOUS ... you know that? π
It's a family tradition π
Hey, you know that Westboro Baptist bunch that goes around the country, trying to find reasons to sue people who object to their bigotry?
We should do that. Pack yer bags, and don't forget to bring a towel!
You hoopy frood.
All good nudists carry a towel. It's only polite.
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It has gotten to the point that putting 'wise' in a discussion about religious behavior is an oxymoron. All anyone has to do is tell them they cannot do something (continue a sweetheart deal, here) and they circle the wagons, scream bloody murder, and announce they are being persecuted. I think we can just bet they are hoping for a rethuglican sweep in November so they can eliminate separation of church and state. Gilead is not far behind.
When they force me into church my earbuds will be rockin' me while some preacher drones on about jeebus. IF we outnumber them we can demand the man talk about that sunday's ball game.
I am not going to sit in uncomfortable seats to waste my time, earbuds or not. This is not 1624!
> "This is not 1624!"
Oh, but it will be.
Only if you don't vote in November.
Oh, I will vote but it will be useless. My vote will be swamped by the MAGAt majority and have absolutely zero effect on the presidential race.
Never go to a French hospital then π€£
Or the movie on Sunday, or the auto race on Sunday, or going to a movie on Sunday, or...
Itβs OK if these religious extremists want to believe in their nonexistent God, but they need to pay for it and do it on their own time, in their own building, and with their own money.
They should never be allowed to take advantage of a public space [especially] if theyβre the only ones that are allowed to use it. Itβs a textbook example of a violation of the First Amendmentβs establishment clause.
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Dillon Colorado. Only let's one church rent that amphitheater. No synagogue, no other church, and no other religious organization may use it. Yup. You do you Dillon Colorado. I will continue to be me and not support Dillon Colorado in any way shape or form. Yup. May the powers that be in Dillon Colorado get voted out NOW.
βWe are very sad... weβre very sad."
Spoken like a certain Dumb Idiotic Australian in Kentucky.
Somebody needs to apply to rent the amphitheater for a drag show that invites patrons to bring food to be donated to the local food bank. And then when they decline sue the crap out of them.
How about renting the church building for the drag show? The church ain't using it.
Uh, because that makes no sense in the context of what's being discussed?
It doesn't? The church is illegally using the town's amphitheater. I suggested renting the church out for a drag show since that would annoy the members of the church. It doesn't bring up the possibility of suing the church, true, but it will still annoy the tight-assed little Christstains, won't it?
You do understand that the issue is the amphitheater is publicly owned and that the church is not, right? π
Ayep.
You just want to sue. I want a good laugh. You do you.
I like that idea. It doesn't even have to really happen to set off that lot. Just the very Idea of it would be enough. Picture it: a bunch of drag queens showing up at the church office and making inquiries about renting the sanctuary :D It would give them a brain bleed!
Actually, it could work in France. Most historical churches are owned by the government.
Piss off troll. Muted. Blocked.
Why not rent the church building? The church ain't using it.
How many years did we hear Christians use the talking point, βHomosexuals want special rightsβ when attacking gay people who simply wanted equal rights.
Bad people seem to always project.
Every accusation is an admission from Christians.
Those poor, persecuted Christians. :S
Murka's most persecuted. Just sk them in their untaxed churches.
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"Won't someone think of the chil...Christians?"
They think nothing of me. All I think of them is hatred, contempt, derision and worse.
Karembeu ? Dior ? Blachas ?
Bale and Slater. :)
You hire experts for a reason. And the idiot who said she wasn't solution oriented doesn't understand that what he wants is NOT LEGAL and there is no way around that (at least until it gets to SCOTUS). He also doesn't understand what a city attorney is for. They aren't there to help you break the law.
He, and he is a Democrat.
With the she, I was referring to the lawyer.
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One of them uppity wimmin folk.
What does god need with an amphitheater?
Starship's broken.
Where the hell's Scotty?
Where else is he to have his orgy? In some sweaty basement like a broke chump?
I'm sure Dionysus can make a few recommendations.
Ms. Kelly deserves an award for her ability to remain professional in the face of the idiocy the Dillon council is pursuing in this case. Why anyone hires an attorney the turns around and refuses to listen to their advice is completely beyond me.
The real issue here appears to be the idea that everyone should be playing fairly; if the church gets to use the amphitheater then other outside groups should also have that opportunity. Christian privilege apparently can't handle that, Christians sure seem to not like sharing their toys with others and actively resist doing so. Shooting the messenger (Ms. Kelly) was quite possibly the worst way to handle the issue the council could have selected considering it's A.) ineffective and B.) childish. If this ever does come to a lawsuit, losing is likely to cost a good bit more because the council very well knew what it was doing wasn't legal.
"Why anyone hires an attorney the turns around and refuses to listen to their advice."
The drumpster effect.
tRump does it.
In this case, it's not even THEIR toys to begin with.