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avis piscivorus's avatar

If dr. Coll doesn't like negative comments about her unprofessional conduct, maybe she should have acted in a professional way.

wreck's avatar

Quack quacking about being called a quack.

Claudia's avatar

It looks as if what the lady was saying was a truthful retelling of events. Truth is a (successful!) defence against a claim of defamation.

But it seems that this is not actually a serious case, it's a SLAPP, it's intimidation to get her to agree to an NDA and stop her from talking about her case.

oraxx's avatar

How twisted does your thinking have to be to come to the conclusion a tiny cluster of non-viable cells with no chance of survival, has more value than the mother? The Church’s position on contraception does not elevate the status of life, . . . it trivializes it. Throw in a slew of pedophile priests and I do not know why membership in that church isn't down to zero.

Joe King's avatar

The Church's position on contraception was never about maximizing the number of babies that are born. It has always been about controlling women.

Airlane1979's avatar

Both. Faith organisations want their members to have large families to pass their delusions to the next generation.

SeekingReason's avatar

She should win enough money to put them out of business. No religious funded hospitals should exist anyway!

Joe King's avatar
3hEdited

Abortion bans actively harm women. Full stop.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

“𝑊𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑤𝑒𝑖𝑔ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑠 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑏𝑎𝑏𝑦 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑚𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟.”

REALLY??? I would LOVE to know how many ectopic pregnancies have resulted in live births, how many had to be aborted and JUST HOW MANY resulted in THE DEATH OF THE PROSPECTIVE MOTHER. I can't escape the feeling that the first number borders on ZERO, if not utterly no such events. The second is what SHOULD be happening the vast majority (if not the entirety!) of the time, and the third is what we get when religion or politics gets in the way of women's health care.

Frankly, Ms Perrone should sue Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital and Dr. Coll into oblivion. This business came within a whisker of resembling what happened to Savita Halappanavar in Ireland, and that should have been a lesson to EVERY Catholic hospital worldwide. On top of that, if any criminal charges can be determined for the above two parties, they should be exercised.

This crap has gone on too damned long. It is well past time a stop was put to it.

Joe King's avatar

The hospital should be paying for all of Ms Perrone's gynecological care for the rest of her life (including IVF treatments) and Dr Coll should have her medical license revoked nationwide. Dr Coll should also go to jail for medical negligence.

NOGODZ20's avatar

This is the same religion that made Teresa, the Ghoul of Kolkata, a saint.

Sue the bastards for every penny they've got.

Joe King's avatar

That would make her wealthier than Elon Musk. I approve of making the richest person on the planet a young woman from Chicagoland over the South African Nazi.

OwossoHarpist's avatar

"Pro-life?"

I don't think so!

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Pro-DOGMA. And ANTI-FEMININE AGENCY!

Maurice Guy's avatar

If God was (o is Pro-life... nobody should die... Right?

NOGODZ20's avatar
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The Catholic folks at Advocate Good Shepherd need to thoroughly read their bibles. Never once in any scripture is abortion condemned. It is, in fact, practiced in abominable ways by its deity, that deity’s followers, its armies and its priests.

Troublesh00ter's avatar

They need to have Numbers 5:11-31 rubbed in their noses until they can't escape the smell.

NOGODZ20's avatar

As well as Hosea 13:16 where the bellies of pregnant women are cut open by by an invading army’s swords doing their deity’s “work” of punishing “disobedient” people.

Oh, and that big flood.

Straw's avatar
2hEdited

I just don't get why they got licenses allowing them to malpractice health care. Or more correct "death care".

Jane in NC's avatar

People should know by now not to trust catholic hospitals, especially in emergency situations. They will ALWAYS prioritize their dogma over patient welfare. It doesn't matter if you're a young woman dealing with ectopic pregnancy or an elderly patient facing end-of-life. My late MIL, a life-long catholic BTW, made all of her adult children swear they would never move her to a catholic-run hospital - she didn't trust them to follow HER wishes over their own. She was right.

I hope Ms. Perrone wins a gigantic settlement against the hospital and forces the IL medical board to take action against this incompetent doctor.

Maltnothops's avatar

They are so pro-life that they destroyed her fertility?

Joe King's avatar
2hEdited

Demonstrating once again that the "pro-life" position has never been about preserving life but about controlling women.

Maltnothops's avatar

AI says “Catholic hospitals account for approximately 15% to 16% of all hospitals in the United States. This represents more than 600 facilities nationwide. Because these facilities are often larger than average, they care for an estimated one in six hospitalized patients in the U.S. each year.”

There needs to be a deliberate effort to drive those percentages way down. The RCC keeps showing that it is not a responsible care provider.

Alverant's avatar

It isn't just the number of hospitals they own, it's the number of people whose only choice for a hospital is one they own.

Boreal's avatar

To the all christers that read this site and comment and those that lurk here, especially the ones that will chime: "This is terrible or this shouldn't have happened, or I don't condone this" , you do condone it and enable this behavior and assault on human rights and values every day by remaining in a cult that premises its actions on magical thinking and non-reality.

I hope her lawsuit is very successful.

SeekingReason's avatar

Religious based AKA fantasy based/supported hospitals should NOT exist. Populate these hospitals with science only MDs. I hope this hospital is sued out of business..turn it over to reality based only.

Deb's avatar

I worked in a national Catholic healthcare organization in a non-clinical area. The stories I could tell you. They had their not for profit status challenged due to the number of for profit ventures. They also had/have a way of sucking their acquired hospitals dry then selling them. The controlling orgs are not what people think; they are very corporate.

Maurice Guy's avatar

Tax religion out of existence.

Deb's avatar

Don’t disagree and…. that will be one tall hill to climb.

Alverant's avatar

Ever notice how often these "religious liberty" types take offense when you point out they just want to bully others?

Troublesh00ter's avatar

Bully, control, coerce, intimidate, and DOMINATE.

Bastards...

Joe King's avatar

𝐴𝑛𝑡𝑖-𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑒𝑥𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑚 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠𝑛’𝑡 𝑠𝑡𝑜𝑝 𝑎𝑡 𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑟𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛𝑠. 𝐼𝑡 𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑎𝑓𝑓𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑠 𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑔𝑒𝑠, 𝑒𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑦 𝑚𝑒𝑑𝑖𝑐𝑖𝑛𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑡𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑓𝑜𝑟 𝑒𝑐𝑡𝑜𝑝𝑖𝑐 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑔𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑒𝑠 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒’𝑠 𝑙𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑛𝑜 𝑣𝑖𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑒 𝑓𝑒𝑡𝑢𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑠𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑑𝑒𝑙𝑎𝑦 𝑐𝑎𝑛 𝑐𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑎 𝑤𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛 ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑖𝑓𝑒.

In South Carolina, a miscarrying woman was denied a D&C for weeks because they had to make sure the fetus had no heartbeat after repeatedly confirming there was no heartbeat.

https://people.com/south-carolina-woman-claims-she-was-denied-medical-assistant-after-miscarriage-11997767

Claudia's avatar

That's what happened to Savita. Apparently one of the nurses told her that 'we're a christian/catholic country'.